[LAD] Re: vocal tracks wanted
Hi Fons, Took a while to catch-up with threads... On 25/04/2024 09:36, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 08:02:19AM +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: I think I can provide you with some female voice clips from a while ago but they are a bit short. Any ideal length of the phrases / clips? Anything 10s or longer. Alas my female-voice clips are quite a bit shorter. They were recorded as basic material for a video 'sonification' I did years ago and are just rather short phrases (repeated in some case like doing different 'takes') from a well-known Purcell aria. They are relatively clean (quite close mic in a room) and unedited (no added reverbs or fx). I'm still happy to send them for consideration though :-) For the male voices, how low is 'low'? The real 'bass' register, down to F2 or so. I know 'someone' who is more of a baritone but can reach G# maybe G... and I assume you're interested in the spectral qualities more than actual performance quality right? If so could it still be interesting? :-) Lorenzo ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list -- linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org To unsubscribe send an email to linux-audio-dev-le...@lists.linuxaudio.org
[LAD] Re: vocal tracks wanted
Hi Fons, On 15/04/2024 20:48, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Hello all, I'm working on an improved version if zita-at1 which most of you probably know as the x42-autotune plugin. The update, zita-at2, will preserve formants while retuning. To test and develop this I need some clean vocal tracks, in particular of female singers and also very low (bass) males. I think I can provide you with some female voice clips from a while ago but they are a bit short. Any ideal length of the phrases / clips? For the male voices, how low is 'low'? In general what do you define as 'clean' (e.g. I'm imagining mono relatively closed mic with relatively little background noise?) Also I'm imagining one singer (i.e. not choir / multiple people)? Are song parts with words/lyrics ok or just 'aaahs' or 'ooohs' preferred / relevant? I might have some of these to send and or quickly produce but might be helpful to know any preferred specs ;-) Lorenzo ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list -- linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org To unsubscribe send an email to linux-audio-dev-le...@lists.linuxaudio.org
[LAD] Re: Status of Pipewire
Hi Fons, On 08/02/2023 12:09, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Hello all, I've been contemplating trying out Pipewire as a replacement for Jack. What is holding me back is a what seems to be a serious lack of information. I'm not prepared to spend a lot of time and risk breaking a perfectly working system just to find out that it was a bad idea from the start. So I have a lot of questions which maybe some of you reading this can answer. Thanks in advance for all useful information. I'm really glad you raise the questions... I feel in the same situation (more as a user) and still find Pipewire quite confusing. I recently reinstalled my uses Manjaro (Arch-based) and I see I _do_ have a 'pipewire' package installed, but it looks like I'm actually running pulseaudio (?) and am able to run jack and use my jack-pulseaudio sink _if_ needed - as I have usually done since years. That's confusing enough, my intuition is that pipewire (at least on Arch and Arch-based distros) is some sort of 'metapackage' (the upstream points to pipewire.org) and then the actual functionality is in the myriad of pipewire-* packages such as pipewire-audio, pipewire-alsa, pipewire-jack. Then I see that pipewire-jack conflicts with both jack and jack2 which makes me very very reluctant to install them as a replacement (I use jack2): on my older machine I gave it a go and Ardour wouldn't even start. I don't want to sound over-critical, just as you (and maybe other users) I'm simply pretty confused. The documentation, at least for me, also seems a bit confusing when it comes to JACK [1]. It might just be a matter of time, meaning Pipewire is still a relatively new project and quite ambitious I'd say. I'd also imagine that (understandable) it's mostly focusing on desktop audio (/video) and not on pro audio. A first thing to consider is that I actually *like* the separation of the 'desktop' and 'pro audio' worlds that using Jack provides. I don't want the former to interfere (or just be able to do so) with the latter. Even so, it may be useful in some cases to route e.g. browser audio or a video conference to the Jack world. I agree. For me pulseaudio is 'everyday' non-pro-audio, jack for pro-audio and then if needed use a sink. Quick and easy and good to have two distinct approaches. If I'm recording or making audio I'm (typically) not watching youtube videos et. al. So, I'm also really interested in the questions you pose (and possible answers). So the ideal solution for me would be the have Pipewire as a Jack client. So first question: Q1. Is that still possible ? If not, why not ? I think the final aim of Pipewire is to _replace_ JACK. It's not clear for me if the option to run JACK 'natively on demand' is considered a kind of transitionary phase or will remain. If the latter maybe one could consider (and use) Pipewiere eventually as Pulseaudio is used today? If the answer is no, then all of the following become relevant. Q2. Does Pipewire as a Jack replacement work, in a reliable way [1], in real-life conditions, with tens of clients, each maybe having up to a hundred ports ? Q3. What overhead (memory, CPU) is incurred for such large systems, compared to plain old Jack ? A key feature of Jack is that all clients share a common idea of what a 'period' is, including its timing. In particular the information provided by jack_get_cycle_times(), which is basically the state of the DLL and identical for all clients in any particular period. Now if Pipewire allows (non-Jack) clients with arbitrary periods (and even sample rates) Q4. Where is the DLL and what does it lock to when Pipewire is emulating Jack ? Q5. Do all Jack clients see the same (and correct) info regarding the state of the DLL in all cases ? The only way I can see this being OK would be that the Jack emulation is not just a collection of Pipewire clients which happen to have compatible parameters, but actually a dedicated subsystem that operates almost independently of what the rest of Pipewire is up to. Which in turn means that having Pipewire as a Jack client would be the simpler (and hence preferred) solution. As said, this (at least logically), sounds really similar to the pulsaudio-jack sink concept... For instance what I now have in a script is something along the lines of: pactl load-module module-jack-sink pactl load-module module-jack-source and get pulseaudio as an in/out jack client. [1] which means I won't fall flat on my face in front of a customer or a concert audience because of some software hickup. Ciao, Lorenzo [1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/wikis/JACK ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list -- linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org To unsubscribe send an email to linux-audio-dev-le...@lists.linuxaudio.org
[LAD] Pure Python (3) chiptune - Summer 2022
In the tradition of previous seasonal Python chiptunes, a Summer 2022 one, now with Python 3 https://gitlab.com/lorenzosu/python-chiptune-summer-2022/ Wishing all Linux || audio || hackers a great end of summer! :-) ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] pipewire
Hi Wim, Thanks for the very detailed info! On 18/01/22 19:24, Wim Taymans wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 at 16:03, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: My problem with that set-up is that it seemed that something like Ardour would need to be explicitly run via pw-jack so e.g. pw-jack ardour You distro probably also has a package that puts the pipewire libjack.so in LD_LIBRARY path and then you don't have to type pw-jack anymore. OK, I think it's an AUR package on Arch and derivatives. I'm wondering if an application is typically able to work with both, alsa/pulseaudio and/or jack (Ardour, Pure Data, Yoshimi, MuseScore come to mind), how would this work? Some of these I hardly ever run with alsa/pulseaudio, but for example I do sometimes use musescore with pulseaudio, or even Pure Data and Yoshimi. With the current set-up if I am running jack, then alsa/pulseaudio will just fail, which in this case is good because it is 'forcing' me to use jack (in the application) in case something different was set-up. In that scenario what would pipewire prioritize? Would there be a way to tell piipewiere 'hey now I'd like to be in jack mode as much as possible' :-) SMPlayer has a really simple and neat way of setting this up where in the Output driver for audio you can write e.g. 'jack,pulse' (that's the setting I have), and it will try to use those in that order, essentially failing if jack isn't available and then trying pulseaudio But then setting the samplerate (I have projects at different samplerates), wasn't trivial. switch to fixed sample rate (on the fly): pw-metadata -n settings 0 clock.force-rate switch back to dynamic control pw-metadata -n settings 0 clock.force-rate 0 Same for buffersize (quantum) : pw-metadata -n settings 0 clock.force-quantum and back to dynamic: pw-metadata -n settings 0 clock.force-quantum 0 Cool. Would this be done before running a jack application, e.g. Ardour? Lorenzo. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] pipewire
Hi, Thanks for opening this thread, I find this topic very interesting and been discussing it with some people :-) If it might be of help, I'm on Manjaro which is Arch derivative so probably similar and I followed the Arch guide, and tried the 'substitution' - TL:DR: I eventually reverted back to pulseaudio+jack, for now. On 17/01/22 14:56, Fons Adriaensen wrote: [...] I'd like to test pipewire as a replacement for Jack (on Arch), and have been reading most (I think) of the available docs. What is clear is that I will need to install the pipewire and pipewire-jack packages. My problem with that set-up is that it seemed that something like Ardour would need to be explicitly run via pw-jack so e.g. pw-jack ardour But then setting the samplerate (I have projects at different samplerates), wasn't trivial. If I understand correctly eventually pipewire will be a drop-in and the pw-jack shouldn't be needed. The other thing I wasn't able to figure out was how to use it as I previously would use qjackctl And then ? How do I tell pipewire to use e.g. hw:3,0 and make all of its 64 channels appear as capture/playback ports in qjackctl ? This was also unclear for me. I use 3 audio interfaces mainly and have dedicated qjackctl 'profiles', and that works quite well for me, so wasn't sure how this is handled in pipewire. If you'd be willing to share any results in this thread it would be really useful. My current workflow is to launch jack when needed with the correct device / samplerate configuration when needed, only _if_ needed open a pulseaudio sink (e.g. browser audio needed while using jack). But I understand that's might be a very 'personal' approach to it all :-) One interesting (yet still anecdotal?) aspect is that potentially pipewire manages to provide better latency? Lorenzo ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] B.Spacr - New LV2 sound effect plugin
On 01/04/21 00:43, Sven Jaehnichen wrote: Hi, after weeks of hard work I just released the first official version of a new sound effect plugin. B.Spacr is a unique LV2 effect plugin that enables a clear and brilliant audibility of your music production. B.Spacr is suited for *any* kind of music, including rock, funk, pop, rap, and electronic music. Wow this is an incredible plug-in!! So, I will admit I am always a bit hesitant when people say a plugin is suited for 'any' kind of music, but this is a welcome exception! I tried it on all of those genres and even others such as the typical 'classics' (Mozart, Beethoven... Enya), and I was literally blown away the brilliance, audibility and interoperability of my audio jumped to unbelievable levels.. I couldn't believe my ears - and wow the interface and user experience are so clean and intuitive! :-) This plugin can be added to each track individually or to the master bus with *zero latency*. The result is a space-clear sound *without any loss* of audio signal information and without any artifacts only depending on the quality of the input signal. In contrast to many over-complex audio plugins, the number of parameters have been reduced to the minimum for the best *user experience*. https://github.com/sjaehn/BSpacr Enjoy and make some music with it Sven ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] full-time permanent technical officer post (Music Dept. NUI Maynooth)
On 10/07/12 17:00, Brett McCoy wrote: Oh, this indeed looks like a fun job. Too bad I am in the wrong country :-( So true. All the (fun) jobs seem to be abroad - sob sob :-( On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Victor Lazzarini victor.lazzar...@nuim.ie wrote: We have a vacancy for a technical officer, which is full-time and permanent: Technical Officer Post: http://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/campaignAdvert/5491.htm Please pass it on to anyone who might be interested. It is a very interesting position and the successful candidate will join a very vibrant working environment. Best regards Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
[LAD] [OT]: Re: Linux Malware
Hope the [OT] labelling excuses me being verbose :) On 22/03/12 16:17, Louigi Verona wrote: Hey guys! This is an Offtopic question, really, but I wanted to ask people I know and people who are developers - what are the reasons there are (almost) no viruses on Linux? I think there is a subtle yet substantial different between 'viruses' and 'malware' (and my thought is confirmed by wiwipedia [1]) A virus is traditionally a piece of code attached to an executable which you run and 'infects' the system and easily replicates when copied to other systems. In the old days it was really easy to get these by swapping floppy disks. Malware is a software which is intently programmed to perform unforeseen, unwanted, harmful activity, usually behind the back of the user. The degree of 'mal'-ness is to some degree subject to debate and user perception. E.g. a programme sending information to a server without the user knowingly accepting this could be considered malware, but many users are ok with this. So could be considered a programme that once removed from the system leaves an hidden or hard to remove trace (e.g. some anti-piracy mechanisms do this). Or simply a programme which changes your homepage or default search engine. The most obvious way I could see some-one 'catching' a virus for linux would be execute a programme with viral code. I think this is much more unlikely in linux due to e.g. distribution packaging, massive presence of open source (and thus the many eyes), no user/consumer antivirus market. As for malware one could say that a harmful script (say one that does rm /) is malware, I would take it a little further saying that to define it malware the user should be tricked into executing it. In both cases you can see how proprietary is the 'bad guy' in all of this. How do you know that skype isn't malware when you doenload a binary .deb blob and install it? Even on linux? Lorenzo. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] First release of zita-ajbridge
On 19/03/12 20:51, Fons Adriaensen wrote: [...] (meanwhile I'm back home, the loopback device is hw:3 here) [terminal 1] fons@zita1:/audio/audiofiles/tracks mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=3.1 diana-krall-almost-blue-44.wav [...] [terminal 2] fons@zita1:~ zita-a2j -d hw:3,0 -r 44100 Starting synchronisation /me makes connections in qjackctl and hears lovely piano intro... [...] If I understood everything correctly you *still* need to set up your .asoundrc with the jack plugin to have this working right? Lorenzo. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
[LAD] [OT] RIP Dennis Ritchie
It seems Dennis Ritchie [1] passed away last week end. He was the inventor of the C programming language and core developer of UNIX. I guess we are all relying in some way or another on this man's research and inventions in our 'contemporary computer lives'. Lorenzo. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [LAU] LAC 2011
The LAC 2011 site just ascended. All conference material (proceedings, video recordings, slides, etc) has been made publicly available. http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2011/ We'd like to thank all speakers and everyone who volunteered to make this an enjoyable event; in particular Frank Neumann, John Lato, Victor Lazzarini and special thanks to Jörn Nettingsmeier. Just wanted to add my Thank You to all the organizers, volunteers and participants for a very nice conference both in Maynooth and online :) Ciao, Lorenzo. enjoy, robin for the LAC-2011 team. ___ Linux-audio-user mailing list linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [LAU] FW: Frequency Space Editors in Linux
Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:43:45PM +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Try Gramofile [1] or Gnome Wave Cleaner [2]. Both seem to be quite old and it's not clear at all if they are still being developed or maintained. True. Nontheless they are the only ones I'm aware of and have used with a certain degree of satisfaction. Results will very a lot depending on the source material. There is a noise removal plugin of Audacity, but IMHO it's not great, but let your ears judge. It's not clear at all from the original post what kind of 'noise' has to be removed. If it is _noise_ (a continuous broadband random signal), then frequency domain methods should be able to reduce it. If it is _crackle_ (short spikes) then time domain methods will have a better chance. Also the remark that the problem only occurs 'while the music is playing' adds a bit to the puzzle... It would help to know the origin of the the 'noise' or to have a sample of it. My interpretation for noise in this case was the plain English one of (a) sound, especially when it is not wanted, unpleasant or loud [1] (which is of course disputable) - :) I am guessing the noise occurring while the music plays may be a result of some noise gate applied to the source at some stage. Mike may shed some light on that, maybe making available a section of the material he'd like to clean... It occurs to me that I have noticed a similar effect, but the other way round, in some older films (especially older ones) which were dubbed to Italian: when no one is speaking there is some background noise (e.g. a street or simply some broadband signal), which dissapears when the dubbed part comes in as if some kind of ducking was made. The interesting thing is that the abrupt disappearing and reappearing of the noise actually makes it more noticeable. Lorenzo. Ciao, [1] http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/noise_1 ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [LAU] FW: Frequency Space Editors in Linux
Hi, Original Message Subject: [LAU] FW: Frequency Space Editors in Linux From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu To: linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org, linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org CC: m_vanwag...@yahoo.com Date: 11/04/2011 16:42 Hi Mike, Forwarding this to the list where users and developers might be able to assist. Hope this helps! Best wishes, Ico -Original Message- From: Michael Van [mailto:m_vanwag...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 12:44 PM To: i...@linuxaudio.org Subject: Frequency Space Editors in Linux Hello Linux Audio, I just wanted to find out if anyone know of any Linux programs that do sophisticated noise removal from recordings, like the frequency space editing process of Windows programs, Adobe Audition or Cool Edit. I wondered if there is a plugin for Audacity that might do it. Try Gramofile [1] or Gnome Wave Cleaner [2]. Results will very a lot depending on the source material. There is a noise removal plugin of Audacity, but IMHO it's not great, but let your ears judge. Good luck, Lorenzo. [1] http://www.opensourcepartners.nl/~costar/gramofile/ [2] http://gwc.sourceforge.net/ I need to use something other than standard noise sample removal plugins because the crackle is only present when the music is playing, not present during quiet stretches. Thanks, Mike ___ Linux-audio-user mailing list linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] Normalize and Cut Wav
Hi,
Alfs Kurmis wrote:
Hi experts.
I have started my small project - mp3 database for radio.
http://martini.pudele.com/radio/mp3_database/mp3_database.html
How do i normalize by peak [not RMS] and trim silences in begin and
end of WAV files ?
Silences somewhere in middle of file i wanna leave untouched.
For normalization you can look at normalize [1] (aka normalize-audio on
some distributions) it has a --peak option.
Lorenzo.
[1] http://normalize.nongnu.org/README.html
I wanna in first step detect MAX sample in whole WAV file.
For example we gottaMAX sample 10 000, then Apmliefier_coefficient
will be 32 000/10 000 = 3,2 .
In second step i wanna trim silences at begin and below -80 dB [or 2
bit noise]
For this in same file each sample multiple by Apmliefier_coefficient ,
and see - result is over -80 dB or not.
If not, then first N samples will not written in trimmed file, but
first sample that is over -80 dB [in any channel] ,
and all further samples written in new file.
Now we must just follow which sample [in any channel] is over -80 dB.
After write is complete, we can just truncate after last sample that
was over -80 dB, and write header.
So far i have found SOX vanna reverse da file for end silence trim,
and for each step produce tmp file.
Is here C API , program, script, way to do so what without any
temporary files ?
I have written script for normalize, but what ir best way for normalize ?
What about mp3 and ogg automatic normalize and frames trim ?
Tnx in advance
Alf
#!/bin/bash
for i in *.wav; do
val=${i%.wav}
echo ** Check peak for $i **
ampl=`sox $i -t wav /dev/null stat -v 21`
waveaus=${i%.wav}.wave
wert1=1.1; wert2=$ampl;
wahr=$(echo $wert1 $wert2 | bc)
if [ $wahr = 1 ]; then
echo $wert1 $wert2 , Do Nuthin
else
echo $wert1 = $wert2 , Do process
echo ** Amplifying volume by -=$ampl=- to fake a normalize
$val.wav -- $waveaus
ampl2=$(echo $ampl*0.9995 | bc -l)
echo ampl2 = $ampl2
sox -v $ampl2 $i -t wav $waveaus
fi
echo
done
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Re: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time
Hi, Original Message Subject: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time From: i...@vt.edu To: linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org, linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 22/12/10 20:37 Hi all, I've been battling a kind of a dsp-writer's-block as of late. Namely, I am dealing with a project where (at least as of right now) I would like to explore human whisper and its percussive/rhythmic power. IMHO granulation might also be interesting... Lorenzo. This would take place in an ensemble of voices. I am also looking to combine whisper with some sort of DSP. Obviously vocoder comes as one of the obvious choices but it sounds IMHO cliche and as a result I would like to avoid it as much as possible (unless I can somehow come up with a cool spin on it which I haven't yet). I also tried amp mod, additive, filtering, etc., but none of these struck me as something interesting. I do think delays will be fine in terms of punctuating the overall pattern but I think this should take place at the end of the DSP chain. Granular synthesis is also a consideration but I've done so much of it over the past years I am hoping to do something different. So, as of right now I have: 1) whisper 2) ??? 3) delays 4) profit! :-) Given the mental constipation I have been battling particularly over the past couple of days, I wanted to turn to you my fellow LA* enthusiasts for some thoughts/ideas/inspiration. Your help would be most appreciated and I will gladly credit your ideas in the final piece. Many thanks! Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound and Intermedia Studio Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico.bukvic.net ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] Richard Stallman warns against ChromeOS
rosea.grammostola wrote: On 12/14/2010 09:28 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, December 14, 2010 03:27:37 pm Victor Lazzarini did opine: Stallman hitting the mainstream news: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/dec/14/chrome-os-richard -stallman-warning He's right. +1 I agree. I also think he is addressing the 'consumer' environment. As soon as Chrome OS works on netbooks people in stores will be convinced that it is the latest 'cool thing' to buy, unaware of what exactly 'cloud' means. I also agree that 'cloud computing' is much of a buzz word, it's not so different from the once-upon-a-time systems with client-server model no? Once you store your data on the server, you have to trust the server owner that the data is secure (in all meanings) That said as an audio user having an actual machine I can control and with enough hardware 'capabilities' is still a need I personally have and will have for many years. Lorenzo. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] killing kittens
Parallel successions of perfect fifths in the Bach chorales: cim08.web.auth.gr/cim08_papers/Fitsioris.../Fitsioris-Conklin.pdf Lorenzo Victor Lazzarini wrote: Not to mention Jazz musicians, arrangers, Debussy, Ravel, Stravinsky... Sounds like a teutonic idea of Musik (sorry Joern...), rather than anything else. Victor On 4 Nov 2010, at 12:02, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: On 11/04/2010 06:01 AM, Jens M Andreasen made my day with this hilarious sig: -- jedes mal wenn du eine quintparallele verwendest tötet bach ein kätzchen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43RdmmNaGfQ (each time you employ parallel fifths, bach kills a kitten) but since you give that youtube link, it should be noted that much like inuit are entitled to kill narwhals since it has always been a pillar of their survival, icelanders have a kitten-killing quota as well, because the type of chant you hear in the intro and outro of that youtube song is a very ancient tradition, called tvisöngur, from way back when anything not strictly unison had to be considered seriously hip. time to crawl back under my stone. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] SMC 2011 - Call for papers
f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 03:05:14PM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote: I finally had to ask Wikipedia to find out it's in Italy. So was this modified *after* the complaint email: http://smc2011.smcnetwork.org/venue.htm If so, that was quick ;) It's probably better known as Padua, just as Genua and Mantua. None of these names is used in Italian - only Padova, Genova and Mantova. But Padua, Italy *is* the first result you get in google if you type in Padova (after an ad for hotels in Padova of course). I wonder if although using google in English it changes results based on the location anyway... Although I'm not a football fan I think the Genova team is actually called Genoa. Given the international context of conferences, I encourage announcement writers to include the country when posting a CfP. ;) Conservatorio, Cesare and Pollini are all very Italian... But of course I'm biased ! Yea, Conservatorio especially, but I'm biased too. Lorenzo Ciao, ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
