Re: [LAD] Congratulations Ardour Team!!!
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 15:12 -0500, Ricardus Vincente wrote:
I just got the the January 2010 issue of Electronic Musician in the
mail today, and Harrison Mixbus (based on Ardour) was named the
Download of the month.
This product, Mixbus, does indeed seem to be a modified version of
Ardour. However, I can't seem to find any source code or, for that
matter any downloads at all on the Harrison website.
I'm concerned that they are violating the GPL. This might not be the
case if the Ardour developers have given a separate license to Harrison.
Is this the case?
Alternatively, they may be providing source code to their customers but
not to the general public. Does anybody know if their customers have
access to the source code?
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Re: [LAD] Congratulations Ardour Team!!!
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 12:27 +, Bob Ham wrote: This product, Mixbus, does indeed seem to be a modified version of Ardour. However, I can't seem to find any source code or, for that matter any downloads at all on the Harrison website. http://ardour.org/node/3011 -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] Congratulations Ardour Team!!!
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:27:50PM +, Bob Ham wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 15:12 -0500, Ricardus Vincente wrote: I just got the the January 2010 issue of Electronic Musician in the mail today, and Harrison Mixbus (based on Ardour) was named the Download of the month. This product, Mixbus, does indeed seem to be a modified version of Ardour. Yes: if i recall correctly it is basically a modified version of Ardour, developed in close cooperation with Paul Davis, bundled with harrison's closed DSP plugins. However, I can't seem to find any source code or, for that matter any downloads at all on the Harrison website. I'm concerned that they are violating the GPL. This might not be the case if the Ardour developers have given a separate license to Harrison. Is this the case? I'm not sure if there's a separate license, but the code is in Ardour's CVS at http://viewcvs.ardour.org/index.cgi/ardour2/ardour2/branches/harrison/ Regards, Arnout ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] Congratulations Ardour Team!!!
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 13:32 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 12:27 +, Bob Ham wrote:
This product, Mixbus, does indeed seem to be a modified version of
Ardour. However, I can't seem to find any source code or, for that
matter any downloads at all on the Harrison website.
http://ardour.org/node/3011
It's good to see that the source code is publicly available but I'm
still concerned that Harrison customers might not be told that they have
access to it. I could find no mention whatsoever of source code on
their website. According to the GPL 2, they must necessarily provide
along with their binaries, either the source code itself or a written
offer to provide the source code. Is this happening?
Again, the concern here is that there may be Harrison customers who are
not being made aware that they have access to the source code for the
software they're buying.
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Re: [LAD] Congratulations Ardour Team!!!
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Bob Ham r...@bash.sh wrote: It's good to see that the source code is publicly available but I'm still concerned that Harrison customers might not be told that they have access to it. I could find no mention whatsoever of source code on their website. According to the GPL 2, they must necessarily provide along with their binaries, either the source code itself or a written offer to provide the source code. Is this happening? Again, the concern here is that there may be Harrison customers who are not being made aware that they have access to the source code for the software they're buying. The software does not differ from Ardour in any way that is related to GPL compliance. It prints the same messages, and is covered by same license. Nobody who downloads Ardour from http://ardour.org/download will see any extra indication of their rights under the GPL over those seen by a Mixbus customer, and neither will anyone who obtains Ardour from their Linux distribution. If you're going to get upset by Mixbus, then lets please start first with what happens when someone downloads Ardour from a Ubuntu repository. I own the copyright to Ardour. I have already verified ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] Congratulations Ardour Team!!!
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Bob Ham r...@bash.sh wrote: Well, to compare Mixbus and Ubuntu, I would look at these pages: 1. http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/developerzone which explains to users that they are welcome to participate in development and provides pointers to specific information; 2. https://launchpad.net/ardour which contains links to the Ardour home page and Ubuntu source code packages; and 3. http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/ardour/ which offers both binaries and source code (this is equivalent to distributing the source code along with the binaries in the GPL 2.) None of these links will be presented to a user who installs Ardour using aptitude, apt-get or any GUI front end for these tools. None of them will be presented to a user who runs Ardour on their Ubuntu system either. Neither will the GPL license of Ardour be presented to the user (that will vanish into their X log file). In short, the user will have no clue about the license status unless they have enough knowledge of Ubuntu to know that most of its apps are GPL and how to check that. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
[LAD] Congratulations Ardour Team!!!
I just got the the January 2010 issue of Electronic Musician in the mail today, and Harrison Mixbus (based on Ardour) was named the Download of the month. Don't forget us linux guys. ;-) Ricardus... -- Richard V. Wielgosz Audio Engineer, Writer www.richwielgosz.com ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
