Re: [LAD] Regarding the linux-audio lists announcing policy

2008-07-09 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen

MarcOChapeau:
  In the pd-world, we had a similar discussion to get rid of double- and
  triple-announcements some time ago, and solved it so that mails to the
  announce list get forwarded to the main list automatically. So people
  who want to announce something, only send mails to pd-announce. If you
  subscribe pd-list, you automatically also receive pd-announce, while
  if you subscribe pd-announce only, you only get pd-announce mails.
 
 Interesting suggestion. I guess this could work. This means that there
 should be some web page somewhere stating the rules that I could use in a
 template for denied emails.

It would be great if you did that.


 
 Other ideas anyone ?

How about automatically add follow-up to linux-audio-dev and/or
linux-audio-user on mails posted to linux-audio-announce?


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[LAD] Regarding the linux-audio lists announcing policy

2008-07-08 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen

I wonder if we could change the post-to-all-three-lists
policy? I don't like to spam three mailing lists
for everytime I announce a program, and it doesn't
seem like everyone knows that we are supposed
to post to all lists either.

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Re: [LAD] Regarding the linux-audio lists announcing policy

2008-07-08 Thread Dave Robillard
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 16:52 +0200, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
 I wonder if we could change the post-to-all-three-lists
 policy? I don't like to spam three mailing lists
 for everytime I announce a program, and it doesn't
 seem like everyone knows that we are supposed
 to post to all lists either.

Agreed.  Not much point of an announce list if everyone spams all the
lists anyway.  Getting 3 emails instead of 1 is a bit annoying,
especially since the point of the announce list existing is that the
other lists are relatively high traffic.

As for people not being subscribed, well... if you want announcements,
subscribe to the announce list.  Duh. :)

There's an easily accessible archive on the web anyway

-DR


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Re: [LAD] Regarding the linux-audio lists announcing policy

2008-07-08 Thread Robin Gareus
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MarcOChapeau wrote:
 On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:52:16 +0200 (CEST), Kjetil S. Matheussen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wonder if we could change the post-to-all-three-lists
 policy? I don't like to spam three mailing lists
 for everytime I announce a program, and it doesn't
 seem like everyone knows that we are supposed
 to post to all lists either.
 
 Hi Kjetil,
 
 Robin Gareus has made last year an interesting study on this matter. It
 seems that the proportion of users that are subscribed to all three lists
 is quite small. So cross posting announces on the 3 lists isn't such a bad
 thing.
 
 Now regarding the fact that not everyone knows they should post on the 3
 lists, I don't really think that's the case. most announces I see are
 posted at least on 2 lists. LAA is nearly always one of them. Some people
 choose to add LAD and LAU, some choose to add also their project list.
 

I just ran the script again: as of July 8 2008 there are 1760 unique
subscribers @linuxaudio.org's  4 lists (laa,lau,lad,consortium).
The majority of users is subscribed to ONE list only.

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[1] = 1255
[2] = 315
[3] = 160
[4] = 30

so long,
robin
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Re: [LAD] Regarding the linux-audio lists announcing policy

2008-07-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Dave Robillard hat gesagt: // Dave Robillard wrote:

 Agreed.  Not much point of an announce list if everyone spams all the
 lists anyway.  Getting 3 emails instead of 1 is a bit annoying,
 especially since the point of the announce list existing is that the
 other lists are relatively high traffic.

In the pd-world, we had a similar discussion to get rid of double- and
triple-announcements some time ago, and solved it so that mails to the
announce list get forwarded to the main list automatically. So people
who want to announce something, only send mails to pd-announce. If you
subscribe pd-list, you automatically also receive pd-announce, while
if you subscribe pd-announce only, you only get pd-announce mails.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__
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Re: [LAD] Regarding the linux-audio lists announcing policy

2008-07-08 Thread MarcOChapeau
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:27:41 +0200, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hallo,
 Dave Robillard hat gesagt: // Dave Robillard wrote:
 
 Agreed.  Not much point of an announce list if everyone spams all the
 lists anyway.  Getting 3 emails instead of 1 is a bit annoying,
 especially since the point of the announce list existing is that the
 other lists are relatively high traffic.
 
 In the pd-world, we had a similar discussion to get rid of double- and
 triple-announcements some time ago, and solved it so that mails to the
 announce list get forwarded to the main list automatically. So people
 who want to announce something, only send mails to pd-announce. If you
 subscribe pd-list, you automatically also receive pd-announce, while
 if you subscribe pd-announce only, you only get pd-announce mails.

Interesting suggestion. I guess this could work. This means that there
should be some web page somewhere stating the rules that I could use in a
template for denied emails.

Other ideas anyone ?

-- Marc-Olivier Barre --
 --- MarcO'Chapeau 
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