[LAD] Whining
Hi, I'm new to the list. Most of the mails I've seen so far are people whining about systemd. Is that normal for this list, or have I just joined at the wrong time? I really don't need to read about systemd on this list. Thank you, Keith -- Great music, chat and even some wit. Join me every Friday evening at 8pm for Keith's Music Box: Follow: https://www.facebook.com/KMBEngland On Friday go to: https://www.mixcloud.com/live/KeithsMusicBox/ ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] Whining
On 2021-07-07 09:51, Keith Edmunds wrote: Most of the mails I've seen so far are people whining about systemd. Well. YMMV but if there is a discussion about the problem of systemd and audio it's probably not whining. Is that normal for this list, No or have I just joined at the wrong time? You can read the archives and you probably see that it's a list about linux audio dev. https://lists.linuxaudio.org/archives/linux-audio-dev/ 156 appearances of systemd since 2009 (start 2002) 38429 messages since then. So, 0.4% is about systemd. I think you are safe. I really don't need to read about systemd on this list. See my first comment. Cheers, -- /bengan ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] Whining
Hey Keith, Loved your message. First, I can relate. We've all been there: bad morning, not enough coffee, and then bham! Someone is wrong on the Internet. My life's story. Second, the fact that you wrote an email asking why everyone is complaining about systemd means that your first email to the list was to complain about the list! And you are asking if you belong? Man, you're now one of us. Complaining about the list is the secret first step to becoming the list's veteran, so, welcome! Finally, I love the elegance of the solution. You've actually broken the link. We're now talking about something else! Not a single complaint about systemd in this thread. In fact, I think systemd is the good guy here. Louigi Verona https://louigiverona.com/ ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] Whining
On 07/07/21 09:54, Louigi Verona wrote: Not a single complaint about systemd in this thread. In fact, I think systemd is the good guy here. systemd is awesome and I can't imagine moving forwards without it! (there broke the link again, talking back about systemd hehe) But seriously, the way systemd manages boot scripts makes complete sense on a multi-threaded system. The complex dependencies of some services would be a very painful thing to manage without it. Then integration with libsystemd means custom written code can notify when a service is truly ready. For example, when dealing with jack one no longer needs "jack_wait -w", jackd can notify the exact instance/time it is ready for use and services that depend on jack can start nicely without needing hacks to wait for startup. People hate change, and also the complexities systemd brings (also being monolithic). Which is very understandable, but doesn't negate it has great points too. As someone that had to do dev-ops and system adminstration, systemd is a "god send" as they say. Compared to the time I had to setup stuff on Alpine/OpenRC, systemd is a bliss and don't want to go back anymore. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
