Re: [LAD] jack meterbridge 0.9.2 update / maintenance
On 7/29/19 8:44 PM, Robin Gareus wrote: On 7/29/19 8:21 PM, Stephan Bourgeois wrote: Should meterbridge be maintained or should another metering app de bundled with jack? Given that jack is cross-platform and meterbridge is a X11 application it's not very likely to be bundled with jack itself. The main use-case for meterbridge is the dpm mode with many channels to check input activity. You may also want to have a look at https://lists.linuxaudio.org/archives/linux-audio-dev/2012-June/032475.html - the debian package applied this, but it never reached upstream, it's likely not relevant after your re-work either. A better candidate to be bundled with JACK would be https://github.com/njh/jackmeter (although I tend to prefer jack_capture /dev/null, b/c it does multiple channels). A simple command line meter for troubleshooting would be great. But ballistics are of secondary importance, this is more to check if it's alive. That also means it should go down to -100dB or so. That said, a "signal present" indicator would help in all patchbay applications such as patchage and qjackctl (switchable of course to not waste resources when not needed). -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Tuinbouwstraat 180, 1097 ZB Amsterdam, Nederland Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio), Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] jack meterbridge 0.9.2 update / maintenance
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:21:39 -0700 (MST) Stephan Bourgeois wrote: >Hi there, > >I have been tinkering with Steve Harris' meterbridge 0.9.2 for jack. >cf. https://github.com/stephanb2/jack-meterbridge > >1. Refactored global variables so that the code builds on Debian 9.2. >2. Improved (?) the dpm IEC scale and ballistics. >3. Changed the PPM ballistics to use Fons Adriaensen's JMeters algorithm. > >I do however have a deeper question: what is the point of jack meterbridge? >Given that the broadcast and podcast industry has moved to EBU-R128 and >Ebumeter offers EBU R-128 metering. JMeters offers "nostalgia" PPM and VU >meters with correct ballistics, more options, better graphics. The only >thing missing would be a 4x oversampling true peak meter. > >Should meterbridge be maintained or should another metering app de bundled >with jack? > >Note that I am not a C engineer, my background is Java and Python. Please >send code review comments and shout if you see anything horrific. > >Let me know your thoughts. >Cheers, >Stephan. I use it all the time. It is simple, clear and runs well in a standalone environment. It also acts as a useful summing point. One's ears are the final arbiter but this is very helpful. I will check out your build as soon as I have some free time (whatever that is!) -- It wasn't me! (Well actually, it probably was) ... the hard part is not dodging what life throws at you, but trying to catch the good bits. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] jack meterbridge 0.9.2 update / maintenance
On 7/29/19 8:21 PM, Stephan Bourgeois wrote: > Should meterbridge be maintained or should another metering app de bundled > with jack? Given that jack is cross-platform and meterbridge is a X11 application it's not very likely to be bundled with jack itself. The main use-case for meterbridge is the dpm mode with many channels to check input activity. You may also want to have a look at https://lists.linuxaudio.org/archives/linux-audio-dev/2012-June/032475.html - the debian package applied this, but it never reached upstream, it's likely not relevant after your re-work either. Cheers! robin ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] jack meterbridge 0.9.2 update / maintenance
On 7/29/19 8:21 PM, Stephan Bourgeois wrote: > The only thing missing would be a 4x oversampling true peak meter. https://github.com/x42/meters.lv2/ also comes with a jack app. ciao, robin ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
[LAD] jack meterbridge 0.9.2 update / maintenance
Hi there, I have been tinkering with Steve Harris' meterbridge 0.9.2 for jack. cf. https://github.com/stephanb2/jack-meterbridge 1. Refactored global variables so that the code builds on Debian 9.2. 2. Improved (?) the dpm IEC scale and ballistics. 3. Changed the PPM ballistics to use Fons Adriaensen's JMeters algorithm. I do however have a deeper question: what is the point of jack meterbridge? Given that the broadcast and podcast industry has moved to EBU-R128 and Ebumeter offers EBU R-128 metering. JMeters offers "nostalgia" PPM and VU meters with correct ballistics, more options, better graphics. The only thing missing would be a 4x oversampling true peak meter. Should meterbridge be maintained or should another metering app de bundled with jack? Note that I am not a C engineer, my background is Java and Python. Please send code review comments and shout if you see anything horrific. Let me know your thoughts. Cheers, Stephan. -- Sent from: http://linux-audio.4202.n7.nabble.com/linux-audio-dev-f58952.html ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev