Re: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 11:43 AM, i...@vt.edu wrote: Quoting Loki Davison loki.davi...@gmail.com: Mod it with a string instrument is my preference. I know i'm a bit too keen on acoustic instruments now days but it would be very neat to have a cello or double bass, etc as the control source to be filtered/modulate in with the whispers or each other. Guitar or bass with an ebow would also work. Reso's are great for that. Loki Many thanks for the suggestion Loki. Do you mind elaborating however? I am not sure what kind of modulation you are suggesting. Also, by reso, do you mean resonant filter? Many thanks! Sorry for the slow reply, busy period! I'm suggesting you use the string instrument as the controller of the whisper source/oscillator. So in the basic case the volume of the string instrument controls the volume of the whisper. You can then extend it so the other parameters of the string instrument such as the frequency control something else like the delay, spatial location or some filtering. Layering this could sound quite interesting and you could combine layers of strings and whispers controlled by strings. Sorry for the ambiguous wording; by reso i was referring to a resonator guitar, a type of guitar that works very well with an EBow and thus would be quite cool for this use. Resonator guitars are made out of metal, I use this rather lovely sounding gold tone, Paul Beard Signature: http://www.goldtone.com/products/enlarge.asp?view=545 Loki ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time
Hi, Original Message Subject: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time From: i...@vt.edu To: linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org, linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: 22/12/10 20:37 Hi all, I've been battling a kind of a dsp-writer's-block as of late. Namely, I am dealing with a project where (at least as of right now) I would like to explore human whisper and its percussive/rhythmic power. IMHO granulation might also be interesting... Lorenzo. This would take place in an ensemble of voices. I am also looking to combine whisper with some sort of DSP. Obviously vocoder comes as one of the obvious choices but it sounds IMHO cliche and as a result I would like to avoid it as much as possible (unless I can somehow come up with a cool spin on it which I haven't yet). I also tried amp mod, additive, filtering, etc., but none of these struck me as something interesting. I do think delays will be fine in terms of punctuating the overall pattern but I think this should take place at the end of the DSP chain. Granular synthesis is also a consideration but I've done so much of it over the past years I am hoping to do something different. So, as of right now I have: 1) whisper 2) ??? 3) delays 4) profit! :-) Given the mental constipation I have been battling particularly over the past couple of days, I wanted to turn to you my fellow LA* enthusiasts for some thoughts/ideas/inspiration. Your help would be most appreciated and I will gladly credit your ideas in the final piece. Many thanks! Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound and Intermedia Studio Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico.bukvic.net ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time
On 12/22/2010 08:37 PM, i...@vt.edu wrote: Hi all, I've been battling a kind of a dsp-writer's-block as of late. Namely, I am dealing with a project where (at least as of right now) I would like to explore human whisper and its percussive/rhythmic power. spectral delay (freqtweak), if only to explore the details of the source material. and maybe low-pass filtering with extreme compression, to look for drone-like sounds where you wouldn't expect them? ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time
So, as of right now I have: 1) whisper 2) ??? 3) delays 4) profit! :-) Given the mental constipation I have been battling particularly over the past couple of days, I wanted to turn to you my fellow LA* enthusiasts for some thoughts/ideas/inspiration. Your help would be most appreciated and I will gladly credit your ideas in the final piece. Many thanks! Mod it with a string instrument is my preference. I know i'm a bit too keen on acoustic instruments now days but it would be very neat to have a cello or double bass, etc as the control source to be filtered/modulate in with the whispers or each other. Guitar or bass with an ebow would also work. Reso's are great for that. Loki ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time
Quoting Loki Davison loki.davi...@gmail.com: Mod it with a string instrument is my preference. I know i'm a bit too keen on acoustic instruments now days but it would be very neat to have a cello or double bass, etc as the control source to be filtered/modulate in with the whispers or each other. Guitar or bass with an ebow would also work. Reso's are great for that. Loki Many thanks for the suggestion Loki. Do you mind elaborating however? I am not sure what kind of modulation you are suggesting. Also, by reso, do you mean resonant filter? Many thanks! Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound and Intermedia Studio Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico.bukvic.net ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
[LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time
Hi all, I've been battling a kind of a dsp-writer's-block as of late. Namely, I am dealing with a project where (at least as of right now) I would like to explore human whisper and its percussive/rhythmic power. This would take place in an ensemble of voices. I am also looking to combine whisper with some sort of DSP. Obviously vocoder comes as one of the obvious choices but it sounds IMHO cliche and as a result I would like to avoid it as much as possible (unless I can somehow come up with a cool spin on it which I haven't yet). I also tried amp mod, additive, filtering, etc., but none of these struck me as something interesting. I do think delays will be fine in terms of punctuating the overall pattern but I think this should take place at the end of the DSP chain. Granular synthesis is also a consideration but I've done so much of it over the past years I am hoping to do something different. So, as of right now I have: 1) whisper 2) ??? 3) delays 4) profit! :-) Given the mental constipation I have been battling particularly over the past couple of days, I wanted to turn to you my fellow LA* enthusiasts for some thoughts/ideas/inspiration. Your help would be most appreciated and I will gladly credit your ideas in the final piece. Many thanks! Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound and Intermedia Studio Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico.bukvic.net ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time
Hello Ico! why not go for praat? Praat offers many voices related functions. You can use the easy, funny bits, like changing speaker/gender or I believe trace different melodies, if there are any to find. You could I think move the formant filters. A very interesting tool to work with voices. It has a GUI, but you can also use a simple script language, if you want to do something clever, based on algorythms. The results are very living, very close to a real voice, if you want them that way. I liked it, because it didn't sound so obviously synthesized. Hope that helps. Kindest regards Julien Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles) FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: http://ltsb.sourceforge.net the Linux TextBased Studio guide === AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: === http://www.juliencoder.de ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 20:57 +0100, Julien Claassen wrote: Hello Ico! why not go for praat? Praat offers many voices related functions. You can use the easy, funny bits, like changing speaker/gender or I believe trace different melodies, if there are any to find. You could I think move the formant filters. A very interesting tool to work with voices. It has a GUI, but you can also use a simple script language, if you want to do something clever, based on algorythms. The results are very living, very close to a real voice, if you want them that way. I liked it, because it didn't sound so obviously synthesized. Hope that helps. Kindest regards Julien Many thanks for the pointer Julien. This does look like a pretty cool app. Alas, unless I am missing something, this appears to be non-rt kind of app and as such it is a no-go for me. Best wishes, Ico ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] seeking fresh way to process/shape human whisper in real-time
Hello Ico! Oh sorry, in my hast to be helpful and finally be able to contribute something worthwhile to the world of clever computer music, I forgot the RT constraint. :-( Maybe for another occasion... Warmly yours Julien Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles) FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: http://ltsb.sourceforge.net the Linux TextBased Studio guide === AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: === http://www.juliencoder.de ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
