Re: [LAD] AES67 + JACK

2014-06-06 Thread Jamie Jessup
Hey All... Again,

This has indeed caught my interest...

After doing some (most likely not enough) reading, I am left a little
curious for how some things happen.

In terms of connection management and SIP under unicast routing, I can see
a little bit how something like the Dante controller could happen. I am
guessing a third party (ie the Dante Controller like thing) could tell two
user agents to coneect with a REFER method. However when it comes to
instructing an existing session to stop, I am at a loss. Does anybody know
if there is a particular SIP method to get an existing SIP session to stop?

An interesting thing that cought my eye about the standard is that it seems
what discovery method is chosen is left open to the implementor.
Avahi/Bonjour seems to be a natural choice, but I am not quite sure how
interoperable all these Audio oIP standards would be if they all use
different discovery methods. Just rambling...


On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Jamie Jessup jessup.ja...@gmail.com
wrote:


 *There is a proprietary ALSA driver for (at least) some Dante Cards,
 butyou have to ask your reseller specifically for it and pay an additional
 fee.*


 Good to know, have you had any experience with the proprietary stuff?
 Whats the experience like in comparison to the Mac/Windows equivalents?


 On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Markus Seeber 
 markus.see...@spectralbird.de wrote:

 On 05/16/2014 05:37 PM, Jamie Jessup wrote:
  I would love to see this happen in the world of LA. I was recently about
  to embark in a HW project for an AES50 implementation, however after a
  quick skim of the standard this sounds a little more exciting :).
 
  A Dante Virtual Soundcard style thing for ALSA/JACK would be amazing.

 There is a proprietary ALSA driver for (at least) some Dante Cards, but
 you have to ask your reseller specifically for it and pay an additional
 fee.

 -M
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Re: [LAD] AES67 + JACK

2014-05-20 Thread Christoph Kuhr
On 17.05.2014 22:15, linux-audio-dev-requ...@lists.linuxaudio.org wrote:
 If you happen to have AVB-enabled network cards around, feel free to
 hack. I might contribute again in the future (either AVB or AES67, not
 sure), but unfortunately don't have any spare time left right now.
Hi,

my efforts of integrateing some AVB in Linux also waits for some free time.

But regarding AVB, there has be an unofficial statement by Cisco: No AVB
by Cisco...

I suspect this could be somewhat of a show stopper for most manufacturers.

AES67 instead gets more popular...

Regards,
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Re: [LAD] AES67 + JACK

2014-05-19 Thread Will Godfrey
On Fri, 16 May 2014 20:17:59 +0200
Adrian Knoth a...@drcomp.erfurt.thur.de wrote:

 On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 06:20:49PM +0100, Will Godfrey wrote:
 
   On 05/16/2014 05:37 PM, Jamie Jessup wrote:
I would love to see this happen in the world of LA. I was recently about
to embark in a HW project for an AES50 implementation, however after a
quick skim of the standard this sounds a little more exciting :).

A Dante Virtual Soundcard style thing for ALSA/JACK would be amazing.
   
   There is a proprietary ALSA driver for (at least) some Dante Cards, but
   you have to ask your reseller specifically for it and pay an additional 
   fee.
  All very interesting, but I had hopes for AVB some time ago, but
  nothing seems to have come of it :(
 
 It's not exactly nothing, there's at least some bit of experimental
 jackd integration:
 
https://github.com/AVnu/Open-AVB/tree/master/examples
 
 
 Granted, for the full experience, you still have to provide a lot more,
 especially wrt stream reserveration and advertisement.
 
 If you happen to have AVB-enabled network cards around, feel free to
 hack. I might contribute again in the future (either AVB or AES67, not
 sure), but unfortunately don't have any spare time left right now.
 
 
 
 Cheers

I hadn't realised this was being taken up (apart from XMOS). Interesting that
Intel are getting involved too. 

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Re: [LAD] AES67 + JACK

2014-05-16 Thread Jamie Jessup
I would love to see this happen in the world of LA. I was recently about to
embark in a HW project for an AES50 implementation, however after a quick
skim of the standard this sounds a little more exciting :).

A Dante Virtual Soundcard style thing for ALSA/JACK would be amazing. If
Audiante is sincere in their intentions:

*Audinate will deliver the AES67 support as firmware update to OEMs in
initial Dante products within 12 months. Dante is now the market leader
adopted by over 130 OEMs, as it is the most interoperable, easy to use
audio networking platform.*

This would open up a LA system to a lot of hardware.

Officially on the radar.


On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:15 PM, raf rmouney...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd be really interested too.
 From what I've figured out, we'd need some kind of different network card
 driver to dedicate a port to this specific network, bypassing the standard
 layers.
 I may be completely wrong with the terms.

 Raphaël

 Le 13 mai 2014 à 20:59, Reuben Martin a écrit :

  I'm just now reading about this recent standard. Is this on anybody's
 radar for possible integration with jack / netjack? It looks like it would
 provide a very direct and standardized means of bridging jack with
 proprietary audio transports.
 
  Personally interested because it could eventually allow easy integration
 of Linux based software with a Dante network.
 
  -Reuben
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Re: [LAD] AES67 + JACK

2014-05-16 Thread Markus Seeber
On 05/16/2014 05:37 PM, Jamie Jessup wrote:
 I would love to see this happen in the world of LA. I was recently about
 to embark in a HW project for an AES50 implementation, however after a
 quick skim of the standard this sounds a little more exciting :).
 
 A Dante Virtual Soundcard style thing for ALSA/JACK would be amazing.

There is a proprietary ALSA driver for (at least) some Dante Cards, but
you have to ask your reseller specifically for it and pay an additional fee.

-M
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Re: [LAD] AES67 + JACK

2014-05-16 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 06:20:49PM +0100, Will Godfrey wrote:

  On 05/16/2014 05:37 PM, Jamie Jessup wrote:
   I would love to see this happen in the world of LA. I was recently about
   to embark in a HW project for an AES50 implementation, however after a
   quick skim of the standard this sounds a little more exciting :).
   
   A Dante Virtual Soundcard style thing for ALSA/JACK would be amazing.
  
  There is a proprietary ALSA driver for (at least) some Dante Cards, but
  you have to ask your reseller specifically for it and pay an additional fee.
 All very interesting, but I had hopes for AVB some time ago, but
 nothing seems to have come of it :(

It's not exactly nothing, there's at least some bit of experimental
jackd integration:

   https://github.com/AVnu/Open-AVB/tree/master/examples


Granted, for the full experience, you still have to provide a lot more,
especially wrt stream reserveration and advertisement.

If you happen to have AVB-enabled network cards around, feel free to
hack. I might contribute again in the future (either AVB or AES67, not
sure), but unfortunately don't have any spare time left right now.



Cheers

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Re: [LAD] AES67 + JACK

2014-05-13 Thread raf
I'd be really interested too. 
From what I've figured out, we'd need some kind of different network card 
driver to dedicate a port to this specific network, bypassing the standard 
layers.
I may be completely wrong with the terms.

Raphaël 

Le 13 mai 2014 à 20:59, Reuben Martin a écrit :

 I'm just now reading about this recent standard. Is this on anybody's radar 
 for possible integration with jack / netjack? It looks like it would provide 
 a very direct and standardized means of bridging jack with proprietary audio 
 transports.
 
 Personally interested because it could eventually allow easy integration of 
 Linux based software with a Dante network.
 
 -Reuben
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