Re: [linux-audio-dev] Prony algorithm?

2004-07-05 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 22:01:29 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Albert Graef) wrote:

> What where the specific problems you encountered? I've never tried 
> wavelets for the purpose of spectrum estimation, so it would be very 
> kind if you could share your experiences.

The results I obtained with wavelets were never as good as the results
I was able to obtain with FFT based methods.

Erik
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Re: [linux-audio-dev] Prony algorithm?

2004-07-05 Thread Albert Graef
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
This floated by a month or so back:
http://ab-initio.mit.edu/harminv/
Thanks, that looks like a viable alternative, I'll have a look at that.
I have messed with wavelets (dyadic and the discrete approximation of
continuous wavelets) and I always found that they never lived up to 
their reputation.
What where the specific problems you encountered? I've never tried 
wavelets for the purpose of spectrum estimation, so it would be very 
kind if you could share your experiences.

Albert
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Re: [linux-audio-dev] Prony algorithm?

2004-07-05 Thread Albert Graef
Niklas Werner wrote:
You can play around with comparing LPC and FFT results at different
settings by using my software :-) http://sonasound.sf.net/
Thanks, I'll try that, too.
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Re: [linux-audio-dev] NPTL/2.6 (was snd-hdsp oddities)

2004-07-05 Thread Charles de Martigny
--- Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 09:24, Michael Ost wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:16, Paul Davis wrote:
> > > When the dust settles from the kernel and NPTL, 2.6 will be
> more
> > > viable. Right now, even though it works for some people, its
> not a
> > > generally viable platform for realtime audio.
> > 
> > What sort of issues are you seeing with NPTL and the 2.6 kernel?
> Are
> > there stability problems? Functionality problems? I thought I had
> heard
> > the NPTL/2.6 was working fine.
> 
> What I'm seeing is, sometimes, xrun storms (this is using 2.6.7 +
> some
> extra patches, lsm for realtime as non-root, recent alsa, qjackctl
> for
> starting and running jack). One of them I think I have tracked to
> an app
> running into denormal problems on a PIV. I still don't know for
> sure
> which part of the system is contributing to the problem (jack /
> nptl /
> alsa). On the same hardware with an older glibc and 2.4.x with low
> latency patches I don't see the same problems (but the whole distro
> is
> different, FC1 vs FC2). 
> 
> Some users have had good experiences with 2.6.x by turning off nptl
> with
> the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL trick, but they get lousy performance (ie:
> lots of
> xruns) with nptl on. 
> 
> -- Fernando
> 
> 
> 



Re: [linux-audio-dev] NPTL/2.6 (was snd-hdsp oddities)

2004-07-05 Thread Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano
On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 09:24, Michael Ost wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:16, Paul Davis wrote:
> > When the dust settles from the kernel and NPTL, 2.6 will be more
> > viable. Right now, even though it works for some people, its not a
> > generally viable platform for realtime audio.
> 
> What sort of issues are you seeing with NPTL and the 2.6 kernel? Are
> there stability problems? Functionality problems? I thought I had heard
> the NPTL/2.6 was working fine.

What I'm seeing is, sometimes, xrun storms (this is using 2.6.7 + some
extra patches, lsm for realtime as non-root, recent alsa, qjackctl for
starting and running jack). One of them I think I have tracked to an app
running into denormal problems on a PIV. I still don't know for sure
which part of the system is contributing to the problem (jack / nptl /
alsa). On the same hardware with an older glibc and 2.4.x with low
latency patches I don't see the same problems (but the whole distro is
different, FC1 vs FC2). 

Some users have had good experiences with 2.6.x by turning off nptl with
the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL trick, but they get lousy performance (ie: lots of
xruns) with nptl on. 

-- Fernando




Re: [linux-audio-dev] NPTL/2.6 (was snd-hdsp oddities)

2004-07-05 Thread Michael Ost
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:16, Paul Davis wrote:
> When the dust settles from the kernel and NPTL, 2.6 will be more
> viable. Right now, even though it works for some people, its not a
> generally viable platform for realtime audio.

What sort of issues are you seeing with NPTL and the 2.6 kernel? Are
there stability problems? Functionality problems? I thought I had heard
the NPTL/2.6 was working fine.

Cheers... mo   



Re: [linux-audio-dev] LSM 2004 music theme: July 8th/9th

2004-07-05 Thread Francois Dechelle
Le lun 05/07/2004 à 15:59, Frank NEUMANN a écrit :
> Hi all,
> Francois wrote:
> 
> > The complete program is there:
> > http://prog.lsm2004.abul.org/program/view_topic.php?topic_id=4&langnew=en
> 
> To ask the obvious question here :-) -
> will there be live audio broadcasts from this event? Would be cool to attend
> such a meeting virtually myself for the first time :-).
> 
> Greetings,
> Frank

Hi all,

We'll do our best to setup a live audio broadcast + irc. But I cannot
guarantee you that it will work.

We'll announce on both the program page (see url above) and on
http://freesoftware.ircam.fr the stream url. Stay connected starting on
wednesday 9am (french time) to see if the event is broadcasted.

Greetings,

François




Re: [linux-audio-dev] LSM 2004 music theme: July 8th/9th

2004-07-05 Thread Frank NEUMANN

Hi all,
Francois wrote:

> The complete program is there:
> http://prog.lsm2004.abul.org/program/view_topic.php?topic_id=4&langnew=en

To ask the obvious question here :-) -
will there be live audio broadcasts from this event? Would be cool to attend
such a meeting virtually myself for the first time :-).

Greetings,
Frank


Re: [linux-audio-dev] LSM 2004 music theme: July 8th/9th

2004-07-05 Thread Francois Dechelle
The complete program is there:
http://prog.lsm2004.abul.org/program/view_topic.php?topic_id=4&langnew=en

fd

Le dim 04/07/2004 à 21:48, Paul Davis a écrit :
> I thought it might worth mentioning 2 days of intense LAD-friendly
> talks at the Libre Software Meeting on July 7th and 8th. The program
> will include:
> 
>  Dave Phillips on "The Scene"
>  Yann Orlarey on Faust
>  Takashi Iwai on ALSA
>  Steve Harris on RDF & Audio
>  Julien Villain on Gestural/Listening training
>  Paul Davis on Ardour (talk + 2hr workshop)
>  Julien Ottavi on APODIO
>  Damien Cirotteau on AGNULA
>  
> If you're in the Southwest corner of France and want to come and fill
> the rooms just a little more, not to mention sample of the "young
> upstart" red and white wines of the region (quite a political battle
> in the region, apparently), check with lsm2004.abul.org. A glass of
> decent wine will be considered partial downpayment on your copy of the
> Ardour manual :)
> 
> --p
> 
> 
>