Linux-Development-Sys Digest #330

1999-01-25 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #330, Volume #6 Mon, 25 Jan 99 23:13:59 EST

Contents:
  Re: TAO: the ultimate OS (Tom Harrington)
  Re: Configuring system to have multiple ethernet addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Consultant needed for RH installations... (Graham TerMarsch)
  Re: How to tell current kernel config? (Rob Funk)
  Re: Kernel 2.2.0pre8 breaks eject-1.5 CDROM (Andrea Borgia)
  Re: Secuity hole with perl (suidperl) and nosuid mounts on Linux (Peter Samuelson)
  Re: Future Modem support. (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: disheartened gnome developer (steve mcadams)
  display issues/questions (dman77)
  Re: How can I build a Linux system from scratch - NO distribution? (Emile van Bergen)
  Re: writing to memory mapped regions---video buffers (Phil Howard)
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux ("John De Hoog")
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux (Steve Peltz)
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux (jedi)
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux (Christopher B. Browne)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Harrington)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: TAO: the ultimate OS
Date: 25 Jan 1999 20:25:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

jdn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:


: Aren't "Tao" and "Taos" two different things?

Yes.  "Taos" is the name of a city in New Mexico, USA.  As far as I'm aware,
it is _not_ intended to be a pluralized form of "Tao".  Otherwise this thread
has some nasty implications for the Taos tourist industry, i.e. "The Taos
that can be visited is not the true Taos".  What it does mean I'm not sure...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.networks
Subject: Re: Configuring system to have multiple ethernet addresses
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:51:14 GMT

If what you are trying to do is to have two cards with an unique ip and
connected to same network to do different tasks, it wont work. as for
microsfot design, multiple computers with same computer name situation
is not allowed.

If you just want your configured connected to multiple networks, you
can add interfaces as much as resource allows.


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Amey Laud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am building a distributed number crunching system, in which a lot of
> data needs to be moved between machines.
> In order to streamline the process and avoid bottlenecks due to
> network/IO latencies, I am considering
> using separate networks to handle the input and the output, that is,
> each system reads from a different physical network
> and writes into a different physical network. This would mean that each
> machine have two IP addresses
> that are configured on separate ethernet cards and can be addressed and
> used explicitly.
> 1. Is such an arrangement possible? (That is, OS and IP support)
> 2. Are there existing examples of such a setup?
> 3. The arrangement might involve heterogenous platforms.
>  I am interested specifically on the possibility of such a setup on
> NT/Linux running on Intel (Xeon)/Alpha.
>
> 4. Are there existing message passing API's (such as MPI) based on
> TCP/IP that support such a configuration.
>
> I would glad to get any suggestions in this regard.
>
> Amey Laud.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Research Engineer,
> Centre for Signal Processing,
> Singapore 639798
>
>

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From: Graham TerMarsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.development,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Consultant needed for RH installations...
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:30:56 GMT

East Coast Client Seeking RH 5.2 Installation Expert

One of my good clients is seeking a consultant to customize the
installation of a large number of RedHat 5.2 Systems in a heterogenous
computing environment.  The client needs someone familiar with all
aspects of RH 5.2 installation, from customizing boot, supplemental and
rescue diskettes to probing for hardware to customizing the installation
steps.  Location is not a factor and travel will likely not be
required.  The opportunity may lead to on-going consulting work.

If you have these qualifications and are interested, please send me your
resume or curriculum vitae to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

-- 
Graham TerMarsch

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Funk)
Subject: Re: How to tell current kernel config?
Date: 25 Jan 1999 22:58:31 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PRO

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #329

1999-01-25 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #329, Volume #6 Mon, 25 Jan 99 15:14:47 EST

Contents:
  Re: sendmail-8.9.2 claims that "seteuid" is broken - True? (Mike Dowling)
  Re: getting notified on file change? (M Sweger)
  Re: sendmail-8.9.2 claims that "seteuid" is broken - True? (Chris Rankin)
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux (Christian Bullerdick)
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux (Lars Hofhansl)
  Re: Re: How can I build a Linux system from scratch - NO distribution? (Adrian 
'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder)
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux (Marco Anglesio)
  Re: How can I build a Linux system from scratch - NO distribution? (Stefan Monnier)
  Re: 2.2pre9 won't compile (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9=20Ure=F1a?=)
  Re: Comparison of Swing, Qt, GTk? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  HELP: ISO 9660 File System (Javier Reyes)
  Possible solution to Netscape freeze (Re: Modest next goal for Linux0 (Navindra 
Umanee)
  Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows (Andre Laframboise)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Dowling)
Subject: Re: sendmail-8.9.2 claims that "seteuid" is broken - True?
Date: 25 Jan 1999 13:18:40 GMT

What error messages do you get?

$ll /usr/sbin/sendmail
-r-sr-xr-x   1 root mem291420 Jan  4 15:16 /usr/sbin/sendmail

It installs correctly for me.

Cheers,
  Mike Dowling

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger)
Subject: Re: getting notified on file change?
Date: 25 Jan 1999 12:33:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Malte Starostik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi!

: In the Win32 API there are FindFirstChangeNotification & co. to set up
: events that are triggered when files is created, deleted or changed in a
: specified directory.

: Is there something alike in Linux, so I can get a signal when a file is
: changed?

: Thanx,
: -Malte

You may also want to extend the capability to directory change too!
Since at times I would like to monitor a directory that would tell me
when a file is put into a directory, modified and deleted plus its
priveleges. Note: a directory is just a file and the data in it is the
list of files etc. I've tried the Unix command "tail -f" on the
directory structure, but this just doesn't cut it.

Perhaps you could write one that does all of the above, not only as a
shell script command but also as a library call.

--
Mike,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Chris Rankin 
Subject: Re: sendmail-8.9.2 claims that "seteuid" is broken - True?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:56:37 GMT

Mike Dowling wrote:
> What error messages do you get?
> 
> $ll /usr/sbin/sendmail
> -r-sr-xr-x   1 root mem291420 Jan  4 15:16 /usr/sbin/sendmail
> 
> It installs correctly for me.

It's not an error message; it's a comment in the src/conf.h file. If you
examine the configuration options you will see that sendmail for Linux
doesn't use the "seteuid" system call because it claims that it's
broken. If this is true then it would be good to fix before 2.2.0 is
released.

Chris.

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From: Christian Bullerdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Modest next goal for Linux
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:57:38 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi *!

Liang-Shing Ng wrote:
> Is it possible to achieve my modest requirement of "guanranteed limited
> time response" in X window? i.e. When my Netscape started swapping, I
> want my cursor can still be responsive and move on to other windows and
> do some things.
Hm, maybe this could be achieved by changing the scheduler/dispatcher:
for 'near-realtime' operations to take place, there could be defined a new
process-type, which is handled diefferently by the scheduler/dispatcher.
Instead of dynamically assigning it a timeslice with whatever priority it 
has, a realtime-process/thread runs in a 'time-channel' and gets a specific
static ammount of CPU-time, say, it gets 20% of the overall CPU-time.
So the response time of such a process is at least constant.
In addition, the memory pages of such a process should be paged out last.

In this way, it schould be easy to create applications which rely on
synchonised timing (MIDI-sequencer, ...),  constant data rate (some 
audio/video player, ...), or minimal response times.


Christian.

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From: Lars Hofhansl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Modest next goal for Linux
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:46:18 +0100

Liang-Shing Ng wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to achieve my modest requirement of "guanranteed limited
> time response" in X window? i.e. When my Netscape started swapping, I
> want my cursor can

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #328

1999-01-25 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #328, Volume #6 Mon, 25 Jan 99 08:13:33 EST

Contents:
  Re: Comparison of Swing, Qt, GTk? (Richard Jones)
  Re: How can I build a Linux system from scratch - NO distribution? (Richard Jones)
  Re: linux crashes on nfs and sound!!! (Bob)
  Mad16 / Opti 82C924 / miro PCM12 Rev.E (Karsten Mueller)
  Re: Comparison of Swing, Qt, GTk? (Michael Schuerig)
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux ("Edwin van der Elst")
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: TAO: the ultimate OS (PILCH Hartmut)
  Re: TAO: the ultimate OS (PILCH Hartmut)
  how? (zerocool)
  Re: how? (zerocool)
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: can't telnet to linux (wim delvaux)
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux ("John De Hoog")
  epson stylus photo 700 drivers (Adam Hamflett)



From: Richard Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.gui
Subject: Re: Comparison of Swing, Qt, GTk?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:52:10 +

BL  wrote:
: In comp.os.linux.development.system Michael Schuerig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: : I'm wondering has done a comparison of Java's Swing with Qt (KDE /Linux)
: : and GTk (GNOME/Linux)?

What sort of comparison? Speed? Memory
usage? Usability? Since all three
toolkits work with three different
languages (Java, C++ and `mainly C but
often Scheme' respectively) you should
pick the right toolkit based on language,
availability and licensing. There's not
really a way to compare the toolkits side
by side on the same application.

: I'm certainly no java expert - only been playing wiht it real informally, but
: with the current free tools (jdk) on linux and even on my work system (irix),
: I'd have to say that compiles are PAINFULLY slow, as are app STARTUP times!
: so slow that I abandoned doing a gui project in java (swing) and went back to
: good old ANSI C with gtk+.   aah - nice comfortable Makefiles, etc ;-)

: until the performance is AT LEAST doubled in java, I don't know of anyone who
: really takes it seriously (when the situation at least allows for other
: choices).  in some situations, java may be the only option, but given a
: choice, I'm not convinced java is ready for prime time.

What processor are you using? There's no
real problem with Java + TYA + Swing
on a Pentium II, but it can be a bit
painful on earlier models.

Rich.

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From: Richard Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I build a Linux system from scratch - NO distribution?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:55:02 +

Jens Kristian Søgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Richard Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

:> :> a system with X-Windows and various components taking a very long time to
:> : This is probably a DNS problem. Setup your DNS server to reply with a
:> : "nonexistent domain"-error when an internet-domain is requested
:> : ( ofcourse it should reply normally when connected to the net ).
:> Can you explain how to do this?

: Well, I can try ;-)

: If you have a local DNS server running on your Linux computer ( named
: ), it's quite easy. Just make sure that you have no forwarders defined
: ( they aren't accessible when you're not connected ). Then remove the
: zone "." so that it's doesn't use any internet-servers.

: Instead of removing the zone, you could empty the named.ca file.

My real problem is that I only want to refuse
queries when the dial-up link is down. When the
link is up (it's started by hand), I would like
everything to work as normal? I'd really like
named to look for the existence of a file before
it tries to forward a query (and if the file isn't
there, use its own cache exclusively, or else
reject the request). I suspect that one fine day
I will end up hacking the functionality into named
myself ...

Rich.

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From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: linux crashes on nfs and sound!!!
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:17:54 -0500

Henk van der Kamp wrote:

> Hi!
>
> My linux box crashes when I copy stuff from a nfs mounted disk. It only
> happens when I use my sound blaster. And it doesn't happen when I use
> FTP.
> I run 2.2.0pre6-ac2 (it allready happed whith a 2.1.132, I didn't use
> any dev kernels before) and it doesn't happen on my old 2.0.34 kernel.
> I have a AW

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #327

1999-01-25 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #327, Volume #6 Mon, 25 Jan 99 03:14:32 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux Phase 2: A Consumer Operating System (David Magda)
  Re: Linux Phase 2: A Consumer Operating System (Christopher B. Browne)
  Re: TAO: the ultimate OS (Miguel Cruz)
  Re: TAO: the ultimate OS ("jdn")
  Dissassemble bootsection (Dennis Wetzig)
  Re: Linux ext2 dump (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: D-Link NIC driver, anyone? (Mark Hahn)
  Re: Comparison of Swing, Qt, GTk? (BL)
  Compiling gcc fails at stage1 (Matthew Vanecek)
  From a Vritual Server to a Colocate ("Mr. Poet")
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux (John De Hoog)
  From a Virtual Server to a Colocate ("Mr. Poet")
  Re: Modest next goal for Linux (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: Autofs automounter auto.direct (Jamie Guinan)
  Re: Compiling gcc fails at stage1 (Loren Osborn)
  Re: LILO and 10 GB drives ("wÕÕg")
  Re: Attention Linux Programmers! ("Aaron Drew")
  Re: disheartened gnome developer (Michael Powe)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Magda)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux Phase 2: A Consumer Operating System
Date: 23 Jan 1999 23:15:13 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:

>The point is that if interesting pieces of the system "solidify" to the
>point that people can't change them without causing immense breakage,
>then it's no longer fun playing with those pieces. 
Well I'm sure someone will come along and make a distribution that's similiar
to what FreeBSD and all do. Have a ports section and instead of worrying about
RPMs et al. just go into a specific directory and to `make update` and have
everything you need sorted out. Suppposedly Debian does this? 

>At some point, it becomes more difficult to get a change in than it is
>to say "Screw it, I'm using another system where I can do what I like,
>and have a bit more control."
Isn't that why the source code is available? So you can play with it yourself?
All (most?) the new features first started out as patches and later were
added to the kernel as part of the 2.1.x series. The NTFS modules started
like this.

>We can see a certain degree of "ossification" taking place already with
>the Linux kernel.  It used to be about a year between major new even
>versions.  The "time betweeen releases" is increasing.  And there are
>enough big plans coming up in the 2.3 series to give ample opportunity
>for it to be 2001 or later until a 2.4 release. 
But there is also more code to manage and debug. What's the size of 1.2 
versus 2.0 versus 2.2? You could also argue that 1.2 had the more basic,
easier to code/debug features and the later kernels are adding more features
that have a larger complexitity. Anyone know how hard will it be to encode
all the I20 and USB stuff? 

>The point was that the sorts of people that can build a system like
>Linux may conclude it time to move on, which will mean that a great
>creative element is taken away.  It might be several years before
>effects become really apparent. 
They can always fork off like OpenBSD from NetBSD from FreeBSD. They could
also hack their own patches, they just might not go into the 2.3 series
"officially" (i.e., always stay as patches). 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux Phase 2: A Consumer Operating System
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:49:00 GMT

On 23 Jan 1999 23:15:13 GMT, David Magda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
>
>>The point is that if interesting pieces of the system "solidify" to the
>>point that people can't change them without causing immense breakage,
>>then it's no longer fun playing with those pieces. 

>Well I'm sure someone will come along and make a distribution that's similiar
>to what FreeBSD and all do. Have a ports section and instead of worrying about
>RPMs et al. just go into a specific directory and to `make update` and have
>everything you need sorted out. Suppposedly Debian does this? 

That's fair enough.

It would be interesting to see a distribution for Linux that had a
greater tendancy to work with source code (ala Ports) rather than treating
binaries as the thing that gets moved around.

A new system could certainly gain advantage from some existing tools and
even code.  Which is pretty much why Hurd is trying to get a Debianized
version released, with the goal of hopefully being able to make use of
some of those thousands of .deb packages.  (At this moment, it supports
33 of 'em.)

>>At some point, it becomes more difficult to get a change in than it is
>>to say "Screw it, I'm using another system where I can do what I like,
>>and have a bit more control."

>Isn't that why the source code is available? So you can play with it yourself?
>All (most?) the new features