Linux-Development-Sys Digest #201

2000-10-09 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #201, Volume #8  Mon, 9 Oct 00 11:13:17 EDT

Contents:
  Driver shortage!!! Windows ersatz feasable? (Hermann Samso)
  Re: Kernel 2.4.0-test7, 8, and 9 "Warning pasting would not give a valid  ("C. W. 
Wright")
  Re: What is Linux equivalent of Mac Toolbox? (John Hasler)
  Re: M820E linux driver (Ming Kee =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A9=FA=B0O?=)
  Re: What is Linux equivalent of Mac Toolbox? (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Most popular Linux development environment(s)? Graphical? (Christopher Browne)
  About keymap ("Viking")
  How to access a unexported kernel symbol ? (wolf)
  Re: What is Linux equivalent of Mac Toolbox? (John Hasler)
  Re: CVS- Concurrent Version System ("chris@SuSE")
  Re: CVS- Concurrent Version System ("D. Stimits")
  system.map (Frank Contrepois)
  Can't compile xchat-1.5.7 (jruff)
  Re: linux drivers for a sound blaster (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Most popular Linux development environment(s)? Graphical? 
("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
  Network Drivers help! (Tasos Kotaras)
  Asynchronous notifications from networking device drivers? ("Mikko Jaakkola")
  PCI Card access problems (driver) (Heiko Bachmann)
  Shared memory problem (Suse 6.4) (Jan Mannekens)
  Re: adjtime and Linux 2.xxx (Michel Bardiaux)



From: Hermann Samso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Driver shortage!!! Windows ersatz feasable?
Date: 9 Oct 2000 00:29:26 GMT


Would it be possible (not extremely difficult) to use
Windows drivers under Linux? As there seems to be some shortage of them
(for example USB scanner drivers or some new GFX cards), it would be
a nice short term solution to be able to use existing Windows drivers.

saludos,
Hermann Samso

*sigh*


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From: "C. W. Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.0-test7, 8, and 9 "Warning pasting would not give a valid 
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 20:33:40 -0400

> "Warning pasting would not give a valid preprocessing token".  Each time I
> see the message it is proceeded by the following,
> I am ccurrently running Red Hat 7.0

I just did a "so-called" "upgrade" from RH 6.2 to RH 7.0 and I found that even
the Redhad provided SRPM for the installed kernel (2.2.16-22) would not compile
without errors.  I grabbed a fresh 2.2.17 from www.kernel.org and I has the
same "pasting" problem as well as other problems.

The fix I found that permitted flawless compilation of the 2.2.17 kernel and
modules was to change the gcc to kgcc as follows:

HOSTCC  = kgcc

and
CC = $(CROSS_COMPILE)kgcc  -D__KERNEL__ -I$(HPATH)


The kgcc was already installed on the 7.0 system.

Although I have been able to compile two different kernels and a realtime-linux
patched kernel, I havn't been able to compile much of anything else and have it
work.

W. Wright



"THINGS ARE MORE LIKE THEY ARE NOW THAN THEY EVER WERE BEFORE."
- Former U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower






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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: What is Linux equivalent of Mac Toolbox?
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:20:50 GMT

Prasanth Kumar writes:
> 'QT' a fully C++ based GUI toolkit but there is a restriction that it is
> free only if you own resultant product is free or otherwise you must
> purchase a commercial license from them (www.trolltech.com).

Qt has now been released under the GPL.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: Ming Kee =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A9=FA=B0O?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: M820E linux driver
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 20:53:20 -0500

alas...there's NO driver for supplied card for M820e, I am using Adaptec
1480...

David Aguilera wrote:

> Hello,,,
>
> Is thier somebody out there the would know were I can get the
> drivers for a HP cd-writer plus model M820e with a PC CARD ( scsi )...
> I'm in need of on quickly... The cd-writer works fine with at scsi
> adaptec 1480... So it the pc card that gives me problem ... Linux is
> always asking me to install the module insmod < module >  I've tried a
> bunch but unsucessful... Any info would be highly apreciated
> Thanks...
>
> David
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: What is Linux equivalent of Mac Toolbox?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 02:15:38 GMT

In our last episode (Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:20:50 GMT),
the artist formerly known as John Hasler sai

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #201

1999-09-16 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #201, Volume #7 Thu, 16 Sep 99 13:14:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: porting unnamed structures (Mumit Khan)
  Handlind Packet Queues (Fernando Ortega Bellosta)
  implement ioctl on /proc ? (Themos Tsikas)
  Re: unix98 pty's problems (Remco van den Berg)
  knfs error using SUN client on sockets (Jan Wielemaker)
  Linux without PC BIOS ("Roland Zitzke")
  Re: UDMA vs IDE: performance comparison wanted (Jens Klaas)
  discounted systems to Open source developers- UK ("bgiltrap")
  Re: UDMA vs IDE: performance comparison wanted ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: UDMA vs IDE: performance comparison wanted (Joseph H Allen)
  mmap problems (Carsten Prinz)
  Re: UDMA vs IDE: performance comparison wanted (Jens Klaas)
  Re: UDMA vs IDE: performance comparison wanted (Joseph H Allen)
  Re: UDMA vs IDE: performance comparison wanted (Mark Hahn)
  Re: UDMA vs IDE: performance comparison wanted (Mark Hahn)
  Re: help.. This should work but why doesn't it???  (write fnc in driver) (Julius 
Longauer)
  Re: GUI apps core dumping on printf's ("John Barry")



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mumit Khan)
Subject: Re: porting unnamed structures
Date: 16 Sep 1999 07:11:43 GMT

In article <7rp0mm$rpt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Uwe Bonnes  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Paul J Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>:>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Minnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>: --snip--
>: Michael> hello.c:4: warning: unnamed struct/union that defines no
>: Michael> instances hello.c: In function `main': hello.c:9:
>: Michael> structure has no member named `foo'
>: --snip--
>
>: AFAIR, that is an extension that Microsoft added.  I cannot remember
>: the rationale for it.  It is logical that it could exist, given that
>: C++ has anonymous unions (and I think they will be in the next C
>: standard, whatver that one is; I have forgotten the name).
>
>Hallo,
>
>as I understand it, cygwin/ecgs has patches to make ecgs understand those
>constructs. Look at http://www.cygnus.com/cygwin

Your understanding is incorrect, sorry.

Alastair Houghton submitted a patch a while back, and I've resubmitted
that with minor changes to gcc folks. There are still issues to be
worked out however, and I'm working on it (as soon as I can get some
free time).

This patch is included in my x86-win32 binaries; if you're interested,
see my posting to gcc (aka egcs) mailing list at 
http://egcs.cygnus.com/ml/gcc/1999-08/msg01076.html for more info.

Regards,
Mumit


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From: Fernando Ortega Bellosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Handlind Packet Queues
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:27:17 +0200

I am working on a kernel module to modify the packet queues of the
devices, for example , I want to add new packets with different priorities
to the queue of the slip device.
I think each device has three queues.

dev->buffs[DEVNUMBUFFERS]

and I want to analyse the behaviour of the priorities queues under
cogestion circunstances.

My problem is that when I try to add new packets in my module, using 

skb_queue_head();

the system fails, why??

I tried to make a clone of the sk_buff before queueing it but it does not
work.
Is it possible to do what I am trying to?

Can I modify this queues without corrupting them?

Do you know a better way to deal with this queues?  

--
Fernando Ortega Bellosta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Themos Tsikas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: implement ioctl on /proc ?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:44:21 +0100

Hello

I would just like to know if anyone is planning on implementing ioctl
calls for the /proc filesystem like OSF1 and Solaris. So that we aren't
limited to doing "cat /proc/this/that" and parsing the ASCII.

Please e-mail any answers as well

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remco van den Berg)
Subject: Re: unix98 pty's problems
Date: 16 Sep 1999 09:46:33 GMT

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:17:58 GMT, Juergen Heinzl wrote:
>
>>Any more programs?
>
>Yes. Mind I am not holding back; I've just no list either, so
>script for instance (util-linux). Try your talk and screen
>binaries too, if in use.
>

Is there a way to figure out if there are old pty's used by programs?

- Remco van den Berg
  

Philips Semiconductors B.V.  tel:(+31 40 27)22031   fax:22764   Room: BE-345
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  seri: rvdberg@nlsce1

home Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (non Philips related)  ICQ: 47514668
 

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Linux-Development-Sys Digest #201

1999-01-02 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Development-Sys Digest #201, Volume #6  Sat, 2 Jan 99 03:16:22 EST

Contents:
  Re: What about "Linux.. the home game"?? (a consumer version) (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows ("William Coleman")
  Re: Backing up Processes (Richard Jones)
  Re: HELP w/ Yamaha OPL3-Sa Sound (Peter Samuelson)
  Serial communication on linux ("NeNo")
  Re: lp0 on fire in 2.1.131 (Jens Kristian Søgaard)
  Re: serious bug in 2.0.34 (Jens Kristian Søgaard)
  Re: What about "Linux.. the home game"?? (a consumer version) (Martin J. Maney)
  Re: Electric Fence 100x slower in 2.1.130 than 2.0.35? (Stefan Monnier)
  serious bug in 2.0.34 (Moshe Bar)
  Re: EDID/Plug and Play Monitor support or specs (Richard RUDEK)
  Two tough questions (Michele)
  Single floppy Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows (Chris Hanson)
  Re: Registry for Linux - Bad idea (John R. Campbell)
  Possible to mount a initrd.img file directly (w/o gunzipping first) ? (Jeremy 
Mathers)
  Re: Two tough questions (Peter Samuelson)
  Re: Programming CDROM (David T. Blake)
  Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows (Jeremy Crabtree)
  Re: Two tough questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Two tough questions (Simon Paradis)
  Re: Two tough questions (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: lp0 on fire in 2.1.131 (Mike Ireton)
  Re: Registry for Linux - Bad idea ("Frederick W. Reimer,Sr")



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: What about "Linux.. the home game"?? (a consumer version)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:47:21 GMT

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:52:28 -0800, Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Okay...
>
>This is still an idea formulating in my head so I am sure that many
>of you will be able shoot holes in this idea. (fire away)
>
>I was thinking about the whole Linux/OSS versus Winbloze technology
>and the evil empire in Redmond Washington. As it stands now Linux
>threatens WindowsNT workstation and server applications. These are the
>domain of the sys admin, computer technology professional and the real
>saavy end user or hobbyist base. Surely no real estate agent or family
>doctor is going to go to their favorite computer store and buy a new
>system and a shrink wrapped Redhat box and run home to set it all up and
>play on the internet or send emails to family and friends. That is the
>domain of Winbloze 95/98 or is it?

At this point in time, you are correct.  Linux isn't terribly suitable
at this time for the relatively computer-illiterate SOHO user.  (That
being said, Windoze is only marginally more suitable...)

>We already have a high-end, stable, performance operating
>system/environment with Linux. Why not strip it down and come up with a
>single-user, GUI only environment version of Linux strictly for the home
>use, non-computer professional. I mean hell, behind the GUI desktop does
>it matter whether its DOS32 or a Linux kernel running the show?

The problem is that this realistically requires deciding on *a GUI,* and
then building up a complete set of applications that are all coded using
that GUI. 

The KDE and GNOME projects are directly trying to build "decent
integrated environments" with the view of trying to make something that
will be usable to "non-computer-professionals."

What they don't do is to try to take out the multi-user and CLI aspects
of Linux.  I am extremely skeptical that this is of substantial value:
- if these things are hidden behind the GUI, they don't have to cause
the unsophisticated users any problems;
- taking them out would require *massive* architectural changes that
amount to needing to redesign something that already works;
- note in a home with several people, this mandates having some sort of
"multi-user" support;
- similarly, while users may not want to play with CLIs, *programs* may
want to do so...

-- 
"Even more amazing was the realization that God has Internet access.  I
wonder if He has a full newsfeed?" (By Matt Welsh)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: "William Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:21:46 GMT

William Coleman wrote in message <3674e4ad.0@seralph9>...
>Where can you get a linux installation to put on to floppy for a: booting


Since i don't read newsgroups very frequently can you be kind enough to mail
me rather than just the group
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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From: Richard Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED