Re: [linux-dvb] Compiling dvb-usb-adapter module outside the kernel source.

2007-08-01 Thread timecop
Thanks for the utterly useless answer. He wanted to know the steps to
compile a module out of the kernel not a confirmation your shit works.

-tc

On 8/1/07, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 En/na lwtbenben ha escrit:
  Hi, everyone
  Which header files should be include in the cxusb.c if I want to compile
  the module outside Linux kernel tree?

 The mercurial repository you can download from linuxtv.org *is*
 compilable out of the tree as is:

 http://linuxtv.org/repo/

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Re: [linux-dvb] Compiling dvb-usb-adapter module outside the kernel source.

2007-08-01 Thread timecop
On 8/1/07, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 En/na [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha escrit:
Stop fucking replying to my mail in foreign language. I don't give a
shit your mail client shows up in greek, have common courtesy not to
inject this AIDS-filled language into my mailbox.

Now on to the original problem,

 Hi, everyone
 Which header files should be include in the cxusb.c if I want to compile the 
 module
 outside Linux kernel tree? I found some module in file 
 Documentation/kbuild/modules.txt,
 but it just needs many header files, but I have no idea, please give me some 
 advice.

If you paid even slightest attention to this individual, he's
working/trying to hack together some modules for some unsupported
chinese DVB card. Clearly he's not trying to compile your code or any
of the filth from hg whatever that is. He just wants to know HOW TO
SETUP THE BUILD ENVIRONMENT TO ALLOW COMPILING HIS CUSTOM MODULE
OUTSIDE THE FUCKING KERNEL TREE.

Now, maybe YOU are the one who needs the book below, since apparently,
you can't even fucking read.

 Go, read again the OP question.
 Here's a useful link for you:
 http://tinyurl.com/33dk6p
 (though maybe it's too challenging for you)

Bye,

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Re: [linux-dvb] Compiling dvb-usb-adapter module outside the kernel source.

2007-08-01 Thread timecop
 Silly me, I just thought he wanted to compile cxusb.c (which is included
 in the hg repository) outside the tree.
 Next time I'll let Grover explain you the difference between far and
 near.

Do you even have any idea of what you're talking about?

Bye

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Re: [linux-dvb] Compiling dvb-usb-adapter module outside the kernel source.

2007-08-01 Thread timecop
On 7/2/07, Wolfgang Wegner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 08:01:10PM +0900, timecop wrote:
  On 8/1/07, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   En/na [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha escrit:
  Stop fucking replying to my mail in foreign language. I don't give a
  shit your mail client shows up in greek, have common courtesy not to
  inject this AIDS-filled language into my mailbox.
 [Other crap deleted]
Good job deleting the only relevant portion of my post.

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Re: [linux-dvb] DVB-T USB card with bulk mode and usb1.1

2007-07-30 Thread timecop
msi megasky 580

On 7/30/07, Jean-Patrick Renouard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi all,

 I've got a question about the DVB-T USB Linux drivers.
 I work on an embedded device and I would like to integrate a DVD-T TNT USB
 card
 on my device.

 The problem is that the USB driver on my device neither supports USB2.0 and
 Isochronous transfers.

 I'm looking for a USB DVB-T card that works in USB1.1 and with a driver that
 fully works with bulk mode.

 I also would like that the USB DVB-T card works with VLC.

 thanks in advance for your answers.
 Best regards.



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Re: [linux-dvb] How to determine the value of usb_data_stream_properties.u.buffersize.

2007-07-26 Thread timecop
On 7/27/07, lwtbenben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thank you for ur advice but do we have any material which describes these
  dvb_usb about data structures?
 No.
 Are you joking?
 This *IS* linux.
 You're expecting NCC-1701-ready docs? Come on.
  I do not expect that, but I just want to know what is the meaning of the
 buffersize field? Please.

Unless its documented in the header file or in the comments, it's as
good as anybody's guess.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Problem about structure: usb_data_stream_properties

2007-07-26 Thread timecop
  Thank you for ur advice but do we have any material which describes these
 dvb_usb about data structures?
No.
Are you joking?
This *IS* linux.
You're expecting NCC-1701-ready docs? Come on.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Now and next info

2007-07-25 Thread timecop
On 7/25/07, Peter Maersk-Moller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 Does anyone have a link to specs on how to decode 'now and next'
 information available in a DVB stream ?
ETSI EN 300 468

This data is in EIT, table ID 0x4e for now/next on current TS.

 Does anyone know if VDR can do this (yes it is more vdr question) ?
 WinTV/Happauge have these popups that shows what is being whatch right
 now and what is coming next.
Dont know.

 Is any of the 'now and next' info precise enough to use for cutting
 clips or is precise with a couple of seconds/minutes ?
Its not precise to cut on program change if that's what you want.
Its within a few seconds though.

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Re: [linux-dvb] extra switch for tzap, czap and szap - new tarball and Debian package

2007-07-22 Thread timecop
I propose we setup #linuxtv-without-jews on feenode and coordinate our
efforts to take over those fools who run the real LinuxTV scam.

-tc

On 7/22/07, Uwe Bugla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2007 12:41:56 schrieb Johannes Stezenbach:
  On Sun, Jul 22, 2007, Uwe Bugla wrote:
   As announced I've built a revised tarball plus a Debian package of the
   current dvb-apps repository, implying your patchset (i. e. human readable
   characters as a switch for szap, tzap and czap.
  
   Unfortunately both packages were rejected without giving reason by the
   list moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  If you look at the reject messages, they should say:
 
Reason:  Message body is too big: 404226 bytes with a limit of 60 KB
  and
Reason:  Message body is too big: 517891 bytes with a limit of 60 KB
 
  The limit is there to protect people who don't have broadband
  connectivity, and to protect the list server (with ~2000 list
  subscribers, these two mails would have caused ~1.8 GByte of traffic).
 
 
  Johannes
 

 Sounds logical. But the main reason you unfortunately forgot to mention:

 The limit is there to protect the highly motivated illustrious linuxtv
 gatekeepers from doing additional good work in order to share good efforts
 all around the world.

 I still got my own experiences and views on the difference between what real
 sophisticated maintainership means in practice @linuxtv.org in comparison to
 the rest of the world-wide linux community. In fact there is a big
 difference.

 For example, if I read comments like you should first ask whether someone
 intends to pick it up (by Christoph Pfister in this specific example) the
 knife in my pocket opens.
 A real sophisticated maintainer picks up such efforts like P. van Gaans patch
 set and merges them without making any noise.

 Above that, the filter timeout problem in connection with scan still remains
 unsolved (wasn't it you, Johannes, who once wrote the scan utility?).

 Why is the scan result still such a drag? Why are the scan results so
 unreliable? Why are there channels missing in the final result?
 Is it a driver issue or an application issue?
 And who can help? Who has got the clue to fix that?
 And why does this problem not appear within kaffeine's channel scan?

 I'm not expecting any answer or fix for that problem - I can help myself.
 But I would like to know whether I am the only one to have that problem with
 the scan utility.

 Uwe

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Re: [linux-dvb] extra switch for tzap, czap and szap - new tarball and Debian package

2007-07-22 Thread timecop
pot calling the kettle black anyone?

On 7/22/07, Uwe Bugla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2007 13:44:44 schrieb timecop:
  I propose we setup #linuxtv-without-jews on feenode and coordinate our
  efforts to take over those fools who run the real LinuxTV scam.
 
  -tc

 Hello tc,
 could you please stay off from here with such a no-brain antisemitistic verbal
 crap?

 Thanks

 Uwe

 
  On 7/22/07, Uwe Bugla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2007 12:41:56 schrieb Johannes Stezenbach:
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007, Uwe Bugla wrote:
 As announced I've built a revised tarball plus a Debian package of
 the current dvb-apps repository, implying your patchset (i. e. human
 readable characters as a switch for szap, tzap and czap.

 Unfortunately both packages were rejected without giving reason by
 the list moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
If you look at the reject messages, they should say:
   
  Reason:  Message body is too big: 404226 bytes with a limit of 60 KB
and
  Reason:  Message body is too big: 517891 bytes with a limit of 60 KB
   
The limit is there to protect people who don't have broadband
connectivity, and to protect the list server (with ~2000 list
subscribers, these two mails would have caused ~1.8 GByte of traffic).
   
   
Johannes
  
   Sounds logical. But the main reason you unfortunately forgot to mention:
  
   The limit is there to protect the highly motivated illustrious linuxtv
   gatekeepers from doing additional good work in order to share good
   efforts all around the world.
  
   I still got my own experiences and views on the difference between what
   real sophisticated maintainership means in practice @linuxtv.org in
   comparison to the rest of the world-wide linux community. In fact there
   is a big difference.
  
   For example, if I read comments like you should first ask whether
   someone intends to pick it up (by Christoph Pfister in this specific
   example) the knife in my pocket opens.
   A real sophisticated maintainer picks up such efforts like P. van Gaans
   patch set and merges them without making any noise.
  
   Above that, the filter timeout problem in connection with scan still
   remains unsolved (wasn't it you, Johannes, who once wrote the scan
   utility?).
  
   Why is the scan result still such a drag? Why are the scan results so
   unreliable? Why are there channels missing in the final result?
   Is it a driver issue or an application issue?
   And who can help? Who has got the clue to fix that?
   And why does this problem not appear within kaffeine's channel scan?
  
   I'm not expecting any answer or fix for that problem - I can help myself.
   But I would like to know whether I am the only one to have that problem
   with the scan utility.
  
   Uwe
  
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Re: [linux-dvb] Please help: Looking for a solidly supported DVB-T USB stick

2007-07-21 Thread timecop
Believe it or not, I don't think any of them are solidly supported.

USB bridge part should be down nicely, but since all the tuner / demod
drivers are reverse engineered garbage (or even if they have docs, you
got amateurs writing code), and as result don't work as good as
expected...

-tc

On 7/22/07, Stephen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Surely this can't be too much to ask? I'm looking for a DVB-T USB
 stick which I can buy now and is solidly supported, that's all.

 Previously i've picked up a couple of MSI Digivox II sticks that when
 delivered turned out to be unsupported MSI Digivox II V2.0 sticks, so
 it's no longer safe to order those. Then I picked up a couple of MSI
 Mega Sky 580 sticks (the x5581 version) which appear to be incapable
 of receiving a decent signal under windows or linux (note that I
 haven't had signal problems with 4 previous DVB-T receivers).

 So i'm now hoping for third time lucky. Any suggestions of supported
 devices that are known to work without issues would be greatly
 appreciated.

 I've checked the wiki for information but it all seems to be completed
 out of date.

 Thanks,
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Re: [linux-dvb] LITE-ON DVBT USB adapter

2007-07-19 Thread timecop
On 7/19/07, Pedro Aranda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi folks,

 System description:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]uname -a
 Linux paag 2.6.21-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Jul 11 03:53:02 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux

 Distro: up-to-date Debian testing

 Problem: MT-2060 doesn't register = no frontend

 Solution: attached patch

 Request: include it in the mainstream ASAP: I'm really sick of
 having to recompile the DVB subsystem everytime a kernel update
 happens

 THANKS a lot

You didn't include:
1) Signed off by jerkface
2) You expect this merged NOW which means it will happen in at least
half a year from now
3) The patch was not tested and will break various other hardware
and will never be approved

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Re: [linux-dvb] Technotrend S2-3600 HDTV-S2 USB 2.0

2007-07-18 Thread timecop
I wonder what you plan to do with that card in western US as there
are no -S2 transmissions.

-tc

On 7/19/07, Erich Newell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have decided to take the plunge and ordered one of these units. It
 is being shipped via post from Germany to the Western USA so I expect
 it will take some time. I will post again once it arrives.

 If need be, I'd be perfectly willing to open the unit and read numbers
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Re: [linux-dvb] Technotrend S2-3600 HDTV-S2 USB 2.0

2007-07-18 Thread timecop
On 7/19/07, Erich Newell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am very happy you inquired. I had planned on using the device with
 clear DVB-S2 transmissions on Echostar1. However, after your inquiry I
 thought I might double check my facts.

 In the end I discovered that although the streams are otherwise the
 same as DVB-S2 HD streams in Europe, here they use Turbo-FEC rather
 than LDPC!

And thats why I asked, there's no reason for anyone to own a -S2 card
in U.S. (yet).
Perhaps if you're going to pirate dishnetwork or whatever it is you
were going to do,
you'd be better off with a
http://www.genpix-electronics.com/index.php?act=viewDocdocId=9 or
http://www.genpix-electronics.com/index.php?act=viewDocdocId=7

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Re: [linux-dvb] extra switch for tzap

2007-07-18 Thread timecop
diff -urN oldfile.c newfile.c  lolwat.diff


On 7/19/07, P. van Gaans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Uwe Bugla wrote:
  Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 06:03:41 schrieb P. van Gaans:
  I don't call myself a programmer (I've never seen any C guide), but
  somehow I figured out how to add an extra switch to tzap to make it
  print the status in (human-readable) decimal instead of hex. It is
  attached. It would be really nice if this would make it into the
  dvb-apps on linuxtv..
 
  Talking about that, could anybody tell me the minimal and maximal and/or
  possible values for status, signal, snr, ber and uncorrected? If I would
  know them I could try to make the numbers more human-readable (eg signal
  ranging from 0 to 99 or so).
 
  Could you please redo that:
  - in patch format (=only the additions)
  - equally for tzap, czap, szap and femon?
 
  Thus everybody could take advantage from that idea.
  Would be a pleasure for us all if you did!
 
  My idea for further enlargement (a quite old idea of mine):
  route the human readable numbers into a speech recognition engine (festival)
  to make them auditable and thus real usable for DVB-S dish tuning f. ex.
 
  Note: If the DVB-S dish is far away from the machine (card), auditable 
  signals
  are necessary.
 
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 In patch format.. Oh please.. I have no idea how to produce that! I
 installed xxdiff, it perfectly shows what I've changed but I don't see
 an option to save it to a patch file!

 You're lucky I've got a satellite dish so I should also be able to patch
 szap and femon. I'll also produce a patched version of czap but my cable
 card is not installed ATM and I don't feel like doing so (cable provider
 is crap) but I'll probably get someone else on this list to test it.

 Please do not try to add the switch yourself without asking me if I'm
 still working on it. Nobody needs double work.

 If somebody can tell me how to produce the so much wanted .diff files
 I'll start working on it.

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Re: [linux-dvb] extra switch for tzap

2007-07-18 Thread timecop
Perhaps an extra servings of dongs?

-tc

On 7/19/07, hermann pitton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, den 19.07.2007, 09:34 +0900 schrieb timecop:
  diff -urN oldfile.c newfile.c  lolwat.diff

 What do you recommend should be in this .diff ?



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Re: [linux-dvb] Microtune mt2131 driver wanted badly.

2007-07-17 Thread timecop
Complaining about that would be like me complaining about all the damn
germans on this list using localized MUAs that keep replacing Blah
blah on Blah blah wrote blah blah with some shit like Am Mittwoch,
11. Juli 2007 18:36:06 schrieb 
What am I supposed to do with that? If your email is goin to be in
english, make your mail client in english too.

-tc

On 7/17/07, Matthias Schwarzott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, lwtbenben wrote:
   Dear Mike:
  Can the mt2131 driver in ~mkrufky repo work?
 
 
  在2007-07-13,Michael Krufky [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道:
  lwtbenben wrote:  Hi,Michael Krufky Sorry for my misunderstanding, but I
  just do not know where to find the cx23885 dev tree.  Did you mean the
  standard linux kernel source tree or somewhere else?  As your kindness,
  would you please send the mt2131.c and mt2131.h to this mail.  Thank you
  so much.  Kevin Liu   在2007-07-13,Michael Krufky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  写道:  lwtbenben wrote:  Hello, everyone.  I am now using a usb card with
  mt2131 as its tuner.  I googled these info on website: 
  b/linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/mt2131.c | 642 +++ 
  b/linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/mt2131.h | 70...   But I just can
  not find mt2131.c and mt2131.h on linuxtv.org   Could someone give me
  some advice?  By the way, could someone tell me the difference between the
  mt2131 and mt2060?  Thank you . mt2131 is completely different from the
  mt2060 There is a driver work-in-progress, that you can find in the cx23885
  dev tree. The driver works, but it is not yet ready for release. I have
  nothing else to report at this time. -- Michael Krufky  Kevin, The driver
  has not yet been released. If you want to take a look at the mercurial
  repositories, you will find mt2131.[ch] in
  linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ , in this repo:
  http://linuxtv.org/hg/~mkrufky/cx23885 You should not use this driver yet,
  as it is not yet complete. I spoke to the author today, and we plan to
  clean up any remaining issues and work towards a release in the near
  future. I can not provide any more information at this time. Cheers, Mike

 ^^ This mail is just formatted ugly
 Couldn't you just use a MUA that is able to send pretty formatted text mails.

 Thanks
 Matthias


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Re: [linux-dvb] tzap output not human readable

2007-07-17 Thread timecop
Edit the sores, and replace %04x with %d or wahtever suits your fancy.
insert rant about you can do this because lunix is opensores (but
never mind the fact that since actual real programmers write windows
apps, this wouldn't be a problem in teh first place)

-tc

On 7/18/07, P. van Gaans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tuned to something with tzap. That gives output like this:

 status 1f | signal 9a9a | snr fafa | ber 00013ed2 | unc  |
 FE_HAS_LOCK
 status 1f | signal 9898 | snr fbfb | ber 00011dbe | unc  |
 FE_HAS_LOCK
 status 1f | signal 9595 | snr fcfc | ber 00011678 | unc 0005 |
 FE_HAS_LOCK
 status 1f | signal 9090 | snr fcfc | ber 00011a26 | unc 0003 |
 FE_HAS_LOCK
 status 1f | signal 8f8f | snr fcfc | ber 0001289c | unc  |
 FE_HAS_LOCK
 status 1f | signal 9393 | snr fcfc | ber 0001362a | unc 000a |
 FE_HAS_LOCK
 status 1f | signal 9595 | snr fcfc | ber 00012d46 | unc 0016 |
 FE_HAS_LOCK

 I've noticed none of the numbers are human-readable (and yes, I suspect
 anyone who can read hex at the speed tzap outputs it from being
 non-human ;)). Is it possible to make tzap output decimal numbers so I
 can compare signal quality and stuff between channels?

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Re: [linux-dvb] tzap output not human readable

2007-07-17 Thread timecop
Do you have a problem with my suggestion?
It is, correct, by the way.

-tc

On 7/18/07, P. van Gaans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 timecop wrote:
  Edit the sores, and replace %04x with %d or wahtever suits your fancy.
  insert rant about you can do this because lunix is opensores (but
  never mind the fact that since actual real programmers write windows
  apps, this wouldn't be a problem in teh first place)
 
  -tc
 
  On 7/18/07, P. van Gaans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I tuned to something with tzap. That gives output like this:
 
  status 1f | signal 9a9a | snr fafa | ber 00013ed2 | unc  |
  FE_HAS_LOCK
  status 1f | signal 9898 | snr fbfb | ber 00011dbe | unc  |
  FE_HAS_LOCK
  status 1f | signal 9595 | snr fcfc | ber 00011678 | unc 0005 |
  FE_HAS_LOCK
  status 1f | signal 9090 | snr fcfc | ber 00011a26 | unc 0003 |
  FE_HAS_LOCK
  status 1f | signal 8f8f | snr fcfc | ber 0001289c | unc  |
  FE_HAS_LOCK
  status 1f | signal 9393 | snr fcfc | ber 0001362a | unc 000a |
  FE_HAS_LOCK
  status 1f | signal 9595 | snr fcfc | ber 00012d46 | unc 0016 |
  FE_HAS_LOCK
 
  I've noticed none of the numbers are human-readable (and yes, I suspect
  anyone who can read hex at the speed tzap outputs it from being
  non-human ;)). Is it possible to make tzap output decimal numbers so I
  can compare signal quality and stuff between channels?
 
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 until I realized the meaning of the word sore in proper English and
 it's pronunciation.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Technotrend S2-3600 HDTV-S2 USB 2.0

2007-07-16 Thread timecop
I would like to mention once again that I freaking hate the fact that
this list does not modify Reply-To: header.

Now to my actual reply

 I would prefer to pay the premium for this product over the 3200 so I
 can use it in conjunction with windows tools under VMware; which
 allows for native USB 2.0 device pass through to guest OSes as of
 version 6.0.

And works great by the way, at least with Windows host + guest.
I had a ~31mbps stream going from USB2 HS device to guest OS in VMWare
without any drop.

So my question is, why even bother with the Linux driver.

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Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread timecop
On 7/11/07, Marcel Siegert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 forwarded to linuxdvb as i used my private not the list account :/

One more reason why this list should have reply-to set to linux-dvb,
its a total pain in the ass to reply to all and then cut linux-dvb
email from CC into To: and remove everyone else from there.

Spam, spam.

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Re: [linux-dvb] libdvbapi clarification

2007-07-10 Thread timecop
 The hole at bytes 2 and 3 seems like a typical implementation detail
 that a library should hide from its users. Wouldn't it be saner to change
 the API so that the function takes 16 filter/mask values and adds the
 unused bytes itself?

That would make sense if linux DVB stuff was written by professionals,
but here you're going to find that 'scratching an itch' will take
priority over sane, documented interfaces. Oh, and don't even start on
documentation.

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Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread timecop
On 7/10/07, Aidan Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I noticed one thing,
You sure seem to have plenty of time to argue about utterly irrelevant shit.
But you couldn't spare 5 minutes of your life to agree on accepting
this code a year ago.
I think this is purely your loss at this point, just eat it up, shut
up, stop playing lawyers, and get back to coding (or whatever you do).

-tc

 On 7/10/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  em2880-dvb and xc3028-tuner are not derived from v4l code; em28xx is
  derived from GPL code but worthless without the other files. Also
  people can write whatever they want as long as they don't compile it
  and fact is that the code is still available.
  Don't compile it against v4l-dvb and it's fine..
  I can have whatever sourcecode I want to have on that server.

 I suspect there are all sorts of interesting legal issues here. In
 particular, the GPL is intended to cover entire works - relicensing
 individual source files in a GPLed piece of software in a
 non-GPL-compatible way when those files are intended to be combined
 with other source files which are still GPLed is a grey area at best.
 Since I'm not a lawyer, and I can't afford to hire one, this makes me
 want to not touch this code with a bargepole. I suppose I could always
 fork the GPL-licensed version, but getting it to compile with new
 kernel releases would be a real pain.

 (Incidentally, I assume that, since you say that em2880-dvb and
 xc3028-tuner are not derived from v4l code, you rewrote em2880-dvb
 from scratch at some point. It certainly looks that way, but I know
 that I did have some code in em2880-dvb at one point.)

  I'd appreciate if you could stop having useless discussions, a few
  linuxtv people proved it during the last year that they aren't capable
  of participating from the beginning on or helping at all to get
  forward, so I'd appreciate if you could just shut up and wait for the
  endresult.
  Not everyone might know why I did that, people who participated at the
  merging requests are responsible for that.

 Basically, I'm left without a working, maintained, legally sound Linux
 driver for the hardware I'm using, through no fault of my own (except
 perhaps relying on an out-of-tree driver by someone who turns out to
 be unable to co-operate with the v4l and dvb developers).

 PS. Sorry for the semi-duplicate email; accidentally forgot to send to list.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Problems about the drivers rmmod.

2007-07-10 Thread timecop
How is it that you're inserting driver for your hardware BEFORE the
hardware is present?

On 7/11/07, lwtbenben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,everyone
  I am now developing my own tv card's driver.
  While I am debugging, I just found a problem when I used modprobe -r
 to rmmod my driver module, it is like this:
  a. When I don't insert my hardware,
 modprobe dvb-usb-mymodule.ko and modprobe -r dvb-usb-mymodule.ko
 were well executed.
  b. First, I insmod my module: modprobe dvb-usb-mymodule.ko
Then, I insert my own hareware.
And if I want to rmmod my module: modprobe dvb-usb-mymodule.ko
It is bad.
The terminal is dead, and the modprobe thread is hanging on and can't
 bekilled. I must reboot to make it.

So, could anybody help me with this issue?
Thank you very much.





 
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Re: [linux-dvb] Possible bug in cx88-dvb?

2007-07-04 Thread timecop
Does it, by chance, work in the real OS?

-tc

On 7/4/07, Pierluigi Rolando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I did. Didn't help.
 
  I also tried changing PCI latency in the BIOS settings and using
  pci=routeirq or pci=noacpi kernel boot parameters. And I tried a
  different kernel.
 
  Those attempts didn't help either.

 Hi,
 Instead of changing the PCI latency you might want to see if your
 BIOS lets you route IRQ manually. Sometimes it lets you do that, and
 you can change IRQ assignments around until you find a way not to
 have shared lines between the troublesome devices.
 In the past I have been able to do that on my old laptop to get a
 802.11b pc-card working.
 I can't recall the exact name of the option or anything, sorry, but
 it involved IRQ lines/pins (that are labelled something like A, B, C,
 D and so on).

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Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread timecop
Hey guys, stop beating dead horses and finding scapegoats.
Whatever excuses you're going to find post-fact isn't going to change
the fact that HE now has working code with functionality better than
the broken crap currently in linux-dvb, and YOU don't. Users (what
little of them Linux still has) usually want stuff that WORKS, and
they don't give two shits about HOW it works underneath. So when you
stop accepting working solutions because of some bullshit
political/etc reason, everyone loses.

Remember, each time someone creates a new distribution of Linux to
scratch an itch because their changes were too big for some other
specialized niche distro, the terrorists win.

-tc

On 6/30/07, Johannes Stezenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 28, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote:
  On 6/28/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   In general, it is a good idea to have the manufacturer supporting their
   drivers. However, it won't make any sense to allow Empiatech to touch on
   low-level drivers for hardware not developed by them. The original
   patches were touching on every DVB driver, even on some Empiatech
   competitors drivers.
 
  And it added support for several cx88 and saa7134 based devices. The
  base change was required to get the Empia drivers in, the rest was
  optional.
  There was a patch from another company which added full xc3028 support
  for their saa7134 drivers to the repository on mcentral.de and by
  doing what you did you now force me to rework what that company did.
  The whole issue is a bigger than you imagine.

 I wondered about the reasons for your reply in
 http://marc.info/?l=linux-dvbm=117940327206449w=2

 This now outlines what the problem is: You had a repository
 which contained code which you knew wasn't going to be merged
 because others disagreed, and instead of addressing the problem
 you decided to work in isolation for a year, piling patch upon patch.

 But the original problem is still unsolved, and instead of asking
 for help you try to force us to accept your code -- which
 naturally won't work.

 Knowing how difficult the situation was I tried to resolve it
 by suggesting to merge your code as-is, and then fix it up later
 until everyone's happy with the outcome.
 http://marc.info/?l=linux-videom=117572695505842 ff.

 Everybody grudgingly agreed, and I thought the issue
 was resolved, and I even sent you in private mail a reminder
 to push your code in time to make the 2.6.22-rc1 merge window.
 I was surprised that you never did.

 A few weeks later you start all over again with the same
 merge all my code request, but this time I was thinking
 that the reason why you didn't push your patches earlier
 was that you don't want us to change anything to your code
 after it has been merged. Which you confirmed in
 http://marc.info/?l=linux-dvbm=117940327206449w=2

 But your hybrid tuner dvb-core changes are too ugly to live,
 if we can't fix them up then your code can't be merged.

 A few people have offered to help you, but it seems you
 are unable to accept any help and rather pull the plug
 than to allow others to change your code.

 I have the impression that you didn't get the basic idea
 of what open source development is all about :-(



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Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-29 Thread timecop
 Hi Oliver,

 Just in case you're not already aware, timecop/dongs/gnaa is a
 professional troll. Unfortunately, he's latched onto the project --
 he's building some ISDN usb devices and stealing code for them. Also

That would be ISDB-T, not ISDN sir.
And I don't want to be accused of stealing shitty code from linux-dvb,
my hardware is for Windows-only.

 unfortunately, it seems, or would appear, that he and Marcus have become
 kind of chummy (as evidenced on the irc channel on some occasions) --
 Marcus is likely just being used for the sole purpose of obtaining
 information (at least, that would be my guess).
You're also wrong there - I have same kind of access to information as
mrec, and I'm not obtaining anything from him.

 In any regard, its best to just ignore him. He's just trying to get a
 rise out of folks here.

 If you are truly curious -- but I recommend that you do not waste your
 time with it -- you may find more info about this troll on his gnaa.com
 website (WARNING -- not suitable for opening at work or other places). I
It's also www.gnaa.US not .COM cmon, stop spreading misinformation.

 believe there is a wikipedia or such article on gnaa too (Johannes found
 it). Pure garbage this fellow.

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Re: [linux-dvb] NDAs - ANY KNOWN RULES?

2007-06-26 Thread timecop
Generally companies dislike dealing with 'nobodys' with @gmail
addresses and especially if Lunix is mentioned.

But if you have a reasonable hw company and products that fit the
general category for which you're getting NDA information for, then
there's no problem.

-tc

On 6/27/07, hermann pitton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 such stuff causes a lot of troubles since long.

 Are there any rules, or can everybody go on as some sort of freelancer
 exclusively on such? I don't like it!

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Re: [linux-dvb] KWorld Digital DVB-S 100 - Locking Problems

2007-06-19 Thread timecop
 I'm using MythTV (surprise), and the card gets a 'partial' lock (L_S is
 what's reported by myth), but the signal strength info seems a bit off the
 wall (97% strength, 4.8dB signal/noise). Scanning for the channels went

I duno about everything else, but C/N ratio of 4.8dB is horrible.
Though I guess it's probably the driver failing it, just like every
other linux-dvb driver.

-tc

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Re: [linux-dvb] removal em28xx from linuxtv.org

2007-06-15 Thread timecop
I wholeheartedly welcome our new EM28XX overlords..
erm I mean, I totally support this decision if it results in better
hardware support.

Regards,
tc

 since I officially take care about the latest Empia em28xx code I want
 to get that project removed from linuxtv.org.
 Mauro already broke some parts in the incomplete inkernel linux driver.
 Since the few developers here who cannot just shut their mouth and
 accept others work I don't see another way out.
 I will rebase the code a last time and add a binary module interface
 to the em28xx driver to allow the usage of proprietary dvb-t demod and
 tuner code from userspace. Mauro is probably aware of wasting my time,
 and the 3-4 other people who are against 1 1/2 years of work which has
 been done are probably aware either of it.

 I will stop any further cooperation with that project since I simply
 don't have the time for all these useless flamewars with people who
 don't know it better.

 If opensource isn't entirely possible because of a flawed community
 it's better to go binary.

 best regards,
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Re: [linux-dvb] New device : MSI DIGIVOX mini II V2.0

2007-06-13 Thread timecop
I think the afatech bridge is supported so is that maxline tuner so
someone just need to combine the two but our lunix-dvb friends are too
busy bickering over who signed off a line of code.

On 6/14/07, Stephen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone?

 If any of the devs are interested in adding support for this device
 i'll happily provide the hardware.

 On the other hand if support is unlikely or far off then i'll return
 the devices and try elsewhere.

 Thanks,
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Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH 1/1] em28xx: Add Pinnacle Dazzle DVC 100

2007-06-11 Thread timecop
More duplication of effort and waste of time.

On 6/12/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 this patch is already included in the video4linux/dvb repository on
 mcentral.de (including many more devices and many more features eg.
 multiple device access, raw read() support, etc.)

 Markus

 On 6/11/07, Paul Walmsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  this patch adds support for the Pinnacle Dazzle DVD Recorder DVC 100.
  Tested on 2.6.20 series kernel, digitizing from the composite input, and
 it
  works fine.  This code came from 'Bernd' at:
 
  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596
 
  He mentions that his patches were submitted upstream, but the changes
 aren't
  in the v4l-dvb Mercurial repo, so, here they are again.
 
  These instructions are also very helpful for using the device on Linux:
 
 
 http://www.lea-linux.org/cached/index/Num%C3%A9riser_une_cassette_VHS_sous_Linux.html
 
  Signed-off-by: Paul Walmsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  ---
   linux/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-cards.c |   17 +
   linux/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx.h   |1 +
   2 files changed, 18 insertions(+)
 
  Index: v4l-dvb/linux/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-cards.c
  ===
  --- v4l-dvb.orig/linux/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-cards.c
  +++ v4l-dvb/linux/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-cards.c
  @@ -334,6 +334,22 @@ struct em28xx_board em28xx_boards[] = {
  .amux = 1,
  }},
  },
  +   [EM2820_BOARD_PINNACLE_DVC_100] = {
  +   .name = Pinnacle Dazzle DVC 100,
  +   .vchannels= 3,
  +   .norm = VIDEO_MODE_PAL,
  +   .has_tuner= 0,
  +   .decoder  = EM28XX_SAA7113,
  +   .input  = {{
  +   .type = EM28XX_VMUX_COMPOSITE1,
  +   .vmux = SAA7115_COMPOSITE0,
  +   .amux = 1,
  +   },{
  +   .type = EM28XX_VMUX_SVIDEO,
  +   .vmux = SAA7115_SVIDEO3,
  +   .amux = 1,
  +   }},
  +   },
   };
   const unsigned int em28xx_bcount = ARRAY_SIZE(em28xx_boards);
 
  @@ -345,6 +361,7 @@ struct usb_device_id em28xx_id_table []
  { USB_DEVICE(0x2304, 0x0208), .driver_info = EM2820_BOARD_PINNACLE_USB_2
  },
  { USB_DEVICE(0x2040, 0x4200), .driver_info =
  EM2820_BOARD_HAUPPAUGE_WINTV_USB_2 },
  { USB_DEVICE(0x2304, 0x0207), .driver_info =
 EM2820_BOARD_PINNACLE_DVC_90
  },
  +   { USB_DEVICE(0x2304, 0x021a), .driver_info =
 EM2820_BOARD_PINNACLE_DVC_100
  },
   #ifdef CONFIG_XC3028
  { USB_DEVICE(0x2040, 0x6500), .driver_info =
  EM2880_BOARD_HAUPPAUGE_WINTV_HVR_900 },
  { USB_DEVICE(0x0ccd, 0x0042), .driver_info =
  EM2880_BOARD_TERRATEC_HYBRID_XS },
  Index: v4l-dvb/linux/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx.h
  ===
  --- v4l-dvb.orig/linux/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx.h
  +++ v4l-dvb/linux/drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx.h
  @@ -49,6 +49,7 @@
   #define EM2880_BOARD_TERRATEC_HYBRID_XS11
   #define EM2820_BOARD_KWORLD_PVRTV2800RF12
   #define EM2880_BOARD_TERRATEC_PRODIGY_XS   13
  +#define EM2820_BOARD_PINNACLE_DVC_100  14
 
   #define UNSET -1
 
 
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Re: [linux-dvb] Dual tuner DVB-T

2007-06-10 Thread timecop
You could also just run Windows Media Center edition, and then you
wouldn't need any advice, because it just works.

-tc

On 6/10/07, Stephen Rowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have a very small form factor PC there is just about space for one PCI
 card, so I could in theory fit a dual tuner card in there.

 I've looked through the wiki, but there isn't much data on which cards
 really work, so I would love some advice on what solutions actually work
 and people are using.

 There is the Nova-T 500, but in the wiki this mentions serious problems?
 Does this fully work now, streaming the whole TS, working with VDR etc?

 Or there is the DViCO Fusion HDTV Dual, it seems to have some problems
 though, can anyone using this confirm that it works with VDR, tuning
 while streaming, and streaming the whole TS?

 Other than that I am stumped, I could go with 2 usb tuners if there are
 any known good ones that will stream the whole TS? I was looking at the
 freecom one, but apparently that won't send the whole transport stream.

 Thank you

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Re: [linux-dvb] dst customization patchset

2007-05-30 Thread timecop
  Guys, it's GPL code. Fork the project and stop your bitching.
  If you do a better job, people will use and contribute to your version.
  If you do a worse job, people will use and contribute to Manu's.
  Some will use and contribute to both. Life's good, eh?

This is exactly why Linux is shit.
You have 100s of forked projects because some guy named Uwe thought
he could do better than some guy named Manu and now you have two
projects to contribute to, both suck in various ways, of course some
idiot is going to be backporting from one to another, introducing
weird bugs, etc etc etc.

Make a fucking decision and stick with it. Stop wasting everyone's
time. It's no secret that current Linux-DVB/V4L/whatever system is a
pile of steaming feces. Every one of you admitted to it on this list
at some point in the past. So get to it, make a fucking decision,
fire (loool) retards who are slowing the project down, and get shit
moving. I vote for Uwe as Linux-DVB maintainer.

Regards,
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Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Regarding Attribute memory in CAM

2007-05-23 Thread timecop

It's pretty obvious what he's trying to do, he's the only coder on a
STB project with CAS, they're behind schedule, need to release a
product yesterday, nothing is done, they can't even figure out how to
integrate opensource stuff, its too late to buy a commercial library
because of all the effort already wasted with opensource in their
product, boom.

-tc

On 5/24/07, Manu Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Santosh wrote:
 Hi ,

   Can anyone tell,*how to get the attribute memory address of a
 CAM..(ISs the attribute memory address is fixed or change with every CAM)??*


First of all it would be easier if you would say what you are trying to do.

Anyway on DVB conformant modules (of course you need to parse the CIS
tuples to find whether it is so), only address lines A0 - A14 alone are
available for addressing the Attribute memory which means you have a
total of 16k addressable memory. Of course this is the maximum, a vendor
can have a smaller memory and map it in that address space, with minimal
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Re: [linux-dvb] Uwe

2007-05-17 Thread timecop

Before that, I think a more productive change would be to make this
list's Reply-To header go back to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of
replying to the original user, and having to copy/paste + CC the rest
of the addresses, which is more annoying than Uwe's thesaurus.

-tc

On 5/18/07, Allan Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Uwe Bugla wrote:
more and more personal attacks

Is there any way to disallow someone from posting to the
mailing list, or does everyone have to add Uwe to their own
killfile?

Cheers,

Allan.

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Re: [linux-dvb] A correction on nasty stupid statements

2007-05-16 Thread timecop

Imagine that, Uwe is right.
XC3028 does not demodulate DVB-T, it only tunes it.
He provides examples of Demodulators, and your quote says both tuning
and ANALOG demodulation, however mentions nothing of DIGITAL
demodulation.

-tc

On 5/16/07, Michel Ludwig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed 16 May 2007, Uwe Bugla wrote:
 A small look at www.bttv-gallery.de says quite clear, that both the xc3028
 and the qt1010 tuners / demodulators are BUT ANALOGUE ONES. NONE of those
 two is capable to offer DVB-T functions, proven by facts @bttv-gallery.
 Tuners / demodulators that offer DVB-T functions are for example the MT352
 or the ZL10353.

Let me quote the XC3028 product description for you:

The XC3028 and XC3028L are single-chip hybrid analog AND digital TV tuners
that combine both tuning and analog demodulation functions in one small
package.

http://www.xceive.com/technology_XC3028.htm


Michel

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Re: Enough of this already (was: Re: [linux-dvb] DST/BT878 module customization (.. was: Critical points about ...))

2007-05-07 Thread timecop

retard, this is exactly the kind of response he didnt want, lol.

-tc

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Re: [linux-dvb] What is Cypress cy7c68013A status please?

2007-04-17 Thread timecop

The cypress chip is the USB2.0 controller / 8051 microprocessor that
probably controls the entire thing.

-tc

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I've been following the List since Vol 25 Issue 28, in hopes of getting
my receiver running under Linux. That covers the past 3 month. The unit
is TBS Q-Box DVB-S, a USB receiver. Gunther requested photos and
information, which I've now sent 3 times to http://www.bttv-gallery.de
and to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,I now see it has entered a
listing, but, my photos,  specs, have not been included, and the page
is still requesting this information. To date, I've not received
confirmation of receipt, of the information I've sent. Is it getting
lost or ignored

Breaking the Q-box down, the tuner is recognized as a 0299, similar to
Technisat's unit. The Cypress chip cy7c68013A is apparently still in
limbo, though Marco is also seeking it for Kworld's Opera 1. There are
several other units like Luc Small's, Hanftek UMT-010 DVB-T USB2.0, that
appear in both DVB-ST, USB  PCI units, that also need this chip
solved. I have no idea of what else is needed to extract the eprom, or
xilling chip information. Are there no self help methods available,
other than lsusb? I don't know where the Cypress chip fits in the scheme
of things, but, I hope it's solved soon.

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Re: [linux-dvb] Will this USB DVB-T stick work under Linux?

2007-04-16 Thread timecop

2. If I did succeed in writing such a driver, would I still face an
issue with firmware? i.e. the stick seems to be loaded (under Windows
XP) with CE firmware rather than the Hanftek firmware that Linux
loads onto it. Is there any way to get hold of this (CE) firmware or
to extract it from the Windows drivers?


It uses soft-loading of the FX2 chip it seems - scan your
C:\windows\system32\drivers (or ..\system32 to be safe) for a file
named *.spt (might be called samenameasdriver.spt or something
similar).

That's the firmware in cypress soft-load format.

-tc

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Re: [linux-dvb] Compro VideoMate T750

2007-04-09 Thread timecop

The Compro windows software will not run without a sound card.  That
took some time to figure out and solve :-(  It is also buggy and prone
to lock up and crashe, but hey, that is why I use linux.


All the trolling aside, but did you honestly expect to install a
software for use with DVB-T receiver and NOT have a working sound
card? Were you going to listen to the broadcast out of PC Speaker or
something? So you'd rather have completely NON-working solution
(Linux) as opposed to CRASHING solution (and this is to be debated, I
have yet to have any problems with media software under windows). Good
luck sir, but if you're going to start trolling here, pick a better
topic.

-Tim

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Re: [linux-dvb] Regarding EN50221 stack

2007-03-31 Thread timecop

I swear, I've seen this message posted at least 3 times in the last 3 days.
Can someone freaking answer him so that he goes away from my mailbox?

On 31 Mar 2007 14:08:35 -, Santosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

 Can anyone tell where do i get EN50221 stack for linux so
that i can use it ion my application..

Waiting for ur anticipation,
Thanx and regards,

Santosh
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Re: [linux-dvb] DSM-CC Synchronized Download Protocol

2007-03-13 Thread timecop

DSM-CC is used a lot in ISDB-T / ISDB-S for data broadcasting and
firmware download.
Have a poke around http://www.dibeg.org/aribstd/ARIBSTD.htm
One of B-xx standards should cover DSM-CC related stuff. I know it
does because I wrote a parser for DDI and DDB messages a few months
ago. By the way, the stuff follows standard section table format.

-t


On 3/14/07, Thomas Lagemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Johannes Stezenbach schrieb:
 On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Thomas Lagemann wrote:

 I'm looking for information in the DSM-CC Synchronized Download
 Protocol. In an amandment to MPEG-2 Systems this is stated to be a
 synchronous method of delivering data in an MPEG-2 stream.  It's said
 that the data is inserted into DSM-CC Download sections which carry a
 PTS entry for synchronization. But i can't find any information about
 this in 13818-6 which secifies DSM-CC.
 Maybe someone can explain me this, or hand me an article for further
 reading.


 I have no idea what it is but ISO lists this:

 ISO/IEC 13818-6:1998/Amd 2:2000

 
http://www.iso.org/iso/en/CatalogueDetailPage.CatalogueDetail?CSNUMBER=33123ICS1=35ICS2=40ICS3=

thanks, that explains at least why there's nothing to find in the
original specification. But it seems the paper is not available for
free. Before i spend money on this (though its not much) id like to know
a bit more about it. Also most of the iso standard papers do not include
much info about the practical use.
So maybe anyone who worked with this can explain me some details:
- does this method require flow-control (kommunication with the server)?
- what are the requirements for a receiver to manage dsm-cc download
sections ?
- is there support of this method in DVB? (since i only know of the
DSM-CC caraousel being used in DVB)


regards,
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[linux-dvb] GL861 / MegaSky users -

2007-03-11 Thread timecop

Any users on this list with a megasky (GL861 board),
if you would be so kind to lsusb / dump usb descriptor(s) / in general
provide all the USB-related info about the card (endpoints etc) and
either reply to me on-list or private, thanks.

-t

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Re: [linux-dvb] Is my card supported/known? 1461:4836

2007-03-07 Thread timecop

dont forget having to recompile your kernel to actually support the
cardand recompiling mplayer to support dvb:/ and trying to find some
obscure app to make channel map... or you could just use windows...

On 3/7/07, CIJOML [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

you should try option card=XX where XX are numbers taken from
linux/Documentation to manually set card/tuner type.

If it is DVB-T card with mplayer you play mplayer dvb://name of channel

Best regards

Michal

Dne úterý 06 březen 2007 18:16 Florian Zwicke napsal(a):
 Hi,

 my new notebook is equipped with a DVB-T card, and I fear there may be
 no support for it on Linux, yet.
 The notebook (ASUS A7CC-7S018C) was released about a month ago, and I
 guess the hardware is about the same age. Therefore, I'm not really that
 surprised at not finding any information about the card on the Internet
 (well, it would be kinda nice if AverMedia mentioned it on one of its
 websites, but they don't seem to consider that necessary).
 Windows Vista calls the card AVerMedia M10D MiniPCI Hybrid DVBT.

 lspci says this:

 01:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135
 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
 Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc Unknown device 4836

 01:02.0 0480: 1131:7133 (rev d1)
 Subsystem: 1461:4836
 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
 ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
 Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort-
 TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-
 Latency: 64
 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 7
 Region 0: Memory at f9dff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
 Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
 PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
 Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

 And that's about all the information I got. I don't want to open the
 laptop unless it's really necessary, so I've never actually seen the card.
 I read that SAA7133 was supported quite well, so I tried to load the
 right modules, but I *think* it didn't work (actually I have no idea).
 People said I could use tvtime to check, but that doesn't work with my
 video card. Anyway, I wanna use mplayer. But I don't know exactly how to
 play TV with mplayer, so the reason I saw nothing but a black screen may
 alsa have been me making a mistake when invoking mplayer.

 Here's what I tried:
 mplayer tv:// -tv

driver=v4l2:norm=PAL:input=0:amode=1:width=384:height=288:outfmt=yuy2:devic
e=/dev/video0:chanlist=europe-west:channel=E2 (got it from Gentoo Wiki,
 didn't have time to read the mplayer manual, yet)

 So, if anyone could tell me how best to find out whether card and tuner
 are working (so I can try out all AverMedia cards or so), that would be
 nice.

 Here's what dmesg had to say:

 saa7130/34: v4l2 driver version 0.2.14 loaded
 ACPI: PCI Interrupt :01:02.0[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19
 saa7133[0]: found at :01:02.0, rev: 209, irq: 19, latency: 64, mmio:
 0xf9dff800
 saa7133[0]: subsystem: 1461:4836, board: UNKNOWN/GENERIC
 [card=0,autodetected]
 saa7133[0]: board init: gpio is 0
 saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 00: 61 14 36 48 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 10: ff ff ff ff ff 20 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
 saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 20: 01 40 01 32 32 01 01 43 88 ff 00 80 ff ff ff ff
 saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 30: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
 saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 40: ff 6b 00 ff c2 1e ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
 saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 50: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
 saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 60: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
 saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 70: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
 saa7133[0]: i2c scan: found device @ 0xa0  [eeprom]
 saa7133[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]
 saa7133[0]: registered device vbi0

 So, my questions now are: Is the card known in any way? If not, how can
 I best test the different existing drivers? If I don't find anything
 there, are there some simple things I could change in the kernel
 sources, or will I have to build a completely new driver? (as you might
 notice, I'm not prepared to give up, no matter what it takes)

 Ah, also: will it be _really_ useful to open the laptop and take a look
 at the card?

 TIA,
 Florian Zwicke

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Re: [linux-dvb] DVB-H information

2007-03-05 Thread timecop

I would imagine TSReader from http://www.coolstf.com/tsreader/ would
do the job nicely.
Of course, its a Windows app.

-t

On 3/5/07, Paolo Pasquali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi to all,
I'm Paolo Pasquali, Telecommunications engineer, and I'm working on the
DVB-H TS quality.
This is the first time I post in this mailing-list. I have a problem with a
DVB-H Transport Stream. I have a DVB-H TS recorder on my PC and I need to
demultiplex the file in order to analyze a single H.264 stream. I found on
Internet a free application to extract PES or ES from a TS, but don't know
how I can 'de-packetize' the RTP/UDP/IP stack to visualize the raw H.264
stream. Do you know application in order to do it?
Thanks a lot in advance for ypur support.
Best Regards,
Paolo

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Re: [linux-dvb] can anyone reply

2007-02-19 Thread timecop

they do.
just nobody wants to help you.
typical open source attitude.

-t

On 2/20/07, barny rabbit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can someone, anyone, reply to this dummy message to reassure me that my
emails actually appear on this list. None have been answered in the
past.
Thanks,

Phil T.


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Re: [linux-dvb] How does bad reception influence quality of macroblocks?

2007-02-15 Thread timecop

 You will lose one or more TS packets (188bytes) if RS decoder (or some
 other step before that) cannot fully recover the packet. Those packets
 are usually marked with 'transport error indicator' flag, and mpeg
 decoder skips them, or perhaps blindly tries to decode data in them.
 Usually results in ugly crap across the screen in a particular section
 that was ruined, even if it was only a single TS packet that was
 affected.

 -t

Thanks  for  Your  reply.  After  reading some docs about mpeg-TS I still have
difficulties to realize the effects of loosing TS packets to  the  macroblocks
(16x16 pixels) of the mpeg-2 video. Is there at least one full macroblock in a
TS packet?


I never dealt with mpeg2 on the macroblock level in TS, but as you
probably read, a single mpeg frame will span several TS packets.


To put my question in other words:
If my dvb-t device doesn't get the  full  stream  will  this  always  lead  to
missing  macroblocks  or  can  it  yield  less  obvious  loss of quality (like
unsharpness)?


Losing a single TS packet, in HD, and especially in SD broadcast will
not lead to unsharpness, you will receive visible ruined image
artifacts, which usually look like inverted/green/or otherwise random
stream of blocks after the missed packet, as mpeg decoder resyncs to
try to decode.


Does the type of device influence the qualtity of the recieved stream? (Why do
devices differ in prices so much?)

The only difference would be a more sensitive tuner.
If your C/N ratio is high, BER is low/or zero, and no continuity
errors in the stream, you're getting everything at full quality.

If the signal 'isn't perfect' you will get ugly dropouts/noise as
described above.

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Re: [linux-dvb] How does bad reception influence quality of macroblocks?

2007-02-15 Thread timecop

 Does the type of device influence the qualtity of the recieved stream?
 (Why do
 devices differ in prices so much?)
 The only difference would be a more sensitive tuner.
 If your C/N ratio is high, BER is low/or zero, and no continuity
 errors in the stream, you're getting everything at full quality.

This  is  very valuable to know. Sadly I couldn't find any info on this in the
net.
What would You recon is ment with signal strength and  signal  quality  in
the  M$  windows  dvb-t  programme?  Would  it  be  SIG and SNR as reportet by
dvbsnoop or tzap?  What  do  the  other values discribe? SNR is never changing
although it is reported. Here is  some  output  of usbsnoop and tzap:

tzap ard
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
reading channels from file '/home/lynx/.tzap/channels.conf'
tuning to 19150 Hz
video pid 0x0201, audio pid 0x0202
status 03 | signal 8675 | snr  | ber 001f | unc  |
status 1f | signal 8435 | snr  | ber  | unc 0013 | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 8455 | snr  | ber  | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 844e | snr  | ber  | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK

dvbsnoop -s signal -pd 9 -n 9 -timeout 1000
dvbsnoop V1.4.00 -- http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/
   DEMUX : /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0
   DVR   : /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0
   FRONTEND: /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0

-
Transponder/Frequency signal strength statistics...
max cycle count: 9
Capabilities: BER: 1  SNR: 1  SIG: 1  STAT: 1  UBLK: 1
-
cycle: 1  d_time: 0.001 s  Sig: 33912  SNR: 0  BER: 0  UBLK: 0  Stat: 0x1f [SIG 
CARR VIT SYNC LOCK ]
cycle: 2  d_time: 1.017 s  Sig: 34416  SNR: 0  BER: 0  UBLK: 0  Stat: 0x1f [SIG 
CARR VIT SYNC LOCK ]
cycle: 3  d_time: 1.020 s  Sig: 33891  SNR: 0  BER: 0  UBLK: 0  Stat: 0x1f [SIG 
CARR VIT SYNC LOCK ]
cycle: 4  d_time: 1.020 s  Sig: 33933  SNR: 0  BER: 0  UBLK: 0  Stat: 0x1f [SIG 
CARR VIT SYNC LOCK ]
cycle: 5  d_time: 1.020 s  Sig: 33933  SNR: 0  BER: 0  UBLK: 0  Stat: 0x1f [SIG 
CARR VIT SYNC LOCK ]
cycle: 6  d_time: 1.016 s  Sig: 33945  SNR: 0  BER: 0  UBLK: 0  Stat: 0x1f [SIG 
CARR VIT SYNC LOCK ]
cycle: 7  d_time: 1.016 s  Sig: 33959  SNR: 0  BER: 0  UBLK: 0  Stat: 0x1f [SIG 
CARR VIT SYNC LOCK ]
cycle: 8  d_time: 1.016 s  Sig: 33956  SNR: 0  BER: 0  UBLK: 0  Stat: 0x1f [SIG 
CARR VIT SYNC LOCK ]
cycle: 9  d_time: 1.016 s  Sig: 33939  SNR: 0  BER: 0  UBLK: 0  Stat: 0x1f [SIG 
CARR VIT SYNC LOCK ]


C/N is carrier to noise ratio,
BER in your case seems to be 0, so it probably is so, unless your
driver doesnt support quering that. If BER is 0, you shouldn't be
getting any stream errors, usually.
Windows apps usually don't list BER, at least not for any cards I've used.

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Re: [linux-dvb] more than 6 dvb cards possible?

2007-02-14 Thread timecop

With 13 cards, imagine what kind of copyright violation device you could make!
MPAA would have a field day with you.

DAMN why the hell doesn't this list have a reply-to header???

On 2/14/07, Ali H.M. Hoseini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I've searched this mailing list, and internet, and found that is
possible to have 6 dvb cards simultaneously with newer linux kerenls.
But is it possible to have more than 6 dvb cards? for example 8 dvb cards?

I've an industrial pc from icp electronics that lets me to install up to
13 pci cards. ( It has active backplane).

With the best wishes.

J. Anderson.

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Re: [linux-dvb] How does bad reception influence quality of macroblocks?

2007-02-08 Thread timecop

You will lose one or more TS packets (188bytes) if RS decoder (or some
other step before that) cannot fully recover the packet. Those packets
are usually marked with 'transport error indicator' flag, and mpeg
decoder skips them, or perhaps blindly tries to decode data in them.
Usually results in ugly crap across the screen in a particular section
that was ruined, even if it was only a single TS packet that was
affected.

-t

On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hallo!


I have this general question to DVB-T:
How  is  the  qualtity of macroblocks influenced if my reception of the signal
isn't perfect?

I know macroblocks will be lost totally if the reception is not sufficient any
more.  But  what happens in between these cases? Can a single macroblock loose
information (quality) in the reception or will it be dismissed totally if  the
data of a macroblock is not recieved completly?
What is the behavior of DVB-S/C or mpeg-streams in general?


Thanks for any answers
Lynx





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Re: [linux-dvb] Kernel panic with ifconfig down, Please help.

2007-02-06 Thread timecop

 Perhaps I did not explained myself very well, I'm using the skystar 2 (rev 
2.6) as a network
device to receive tcp packets of a satellite dvb-s data trasponder. Dvbtune0-5 
is used to
create interfaces dvb0_0 and so on.


Perhaps you mean you're attempting to steal internet over satellite
signal, in which case you're better off with Windows, as tools for
DVB-IP are much, much more advanced on that platform.

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Re: [linux-dvb] ISDB ?

2007-01-29 Thread timecop

No becauase there are no PC-based ISDB receivers.

On 1/30/07, Samuel Goto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

is there anything like linux-dvb but for isdb devices ?

cya, Sam

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[linux-dvb] ULi m9206 info request

2007-01-27 Thread timecop

Hi all,

Does anyone involved with Linux support of m9206 mpeg2/usb processor
by ULi have a spec/datasheet for it? I'm interested to get a copy.

Thanks,
Tim

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