Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-29 Thread Craig Whitmore

 These are Philips/NXP PCIe bridges, not supported under Linux.  Manu is
 working on a driver for the same family of silicon but don't assume 
 anything.


I've updated the wiki a little with information I could get off the images I 
could find off the Hauppauge website. It looks it is based on the reference 
design from NXP/Philips.

I think manu/steven? was/is working on drivers for this thing.. any update? 
( I read it yesterday but can't find the link)

Thanks
 


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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-29 Thread Craig Whitmore

 These are Philips/NXP PCIe bridges, not supported under Linux.  Manu is
 working on a driver for the same family of silicon but don't assume 
 anything.


I've updated the wiki a little with information I could get off the images I 
could find off the Hauppauge website. It looks it is based on the reference 
design from NXP/Philips.

Thanks
 


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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-29 Thread Steven Toth
Craig Whitmore wrote:
 
 These are Philips/NXP PCIe bridges, not supported under Linux.  Manu is
 working on a driver for the same family of silicon but don't assume 
 anything.

 
 I've updated the wiki a little with information I could get off the 
 images I could find off the Hauppauge website. It looks it is based on 
 the reference design from NXP/Philips.
 
 I think manu/steven? was/is working on drivers for this thing.. any 
 update? ( I read it yesterday but can't find the link)

Hi Craig,

Just to be clear, I've never worked on a driver for this. Manu was doing 
some work with the 716x silicon family, but as I said earlier - don't 
assume that it will result in a driver for this product.

Manu can probably give you more detail.

- Steve

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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-28 Thread Steven Toth
Craig Whitmore wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: Halim Sahin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200,HVR-1700 
 and HVR-1200
 
 
 Has anyone actually put a HVR-2200 in a linux box and seen what happens? 
 does linux find nothing or what? What exactly makes PCI-E cards hard to 
 start to get right (or its not hard.. just no one has had time to do it?)

lspci It will look like a normal PCI/PCI-e device with the appropriate 
PCI device id's.

- Steve


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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-27 Thread CityK
Craig Whitmore wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: Steven Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:02 PM
 Subject: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200,HVR-1700 and 
 HVR-1200


   
 Been reading up on these as it appears that the HVR-2200 is now available
 in Australia. I've updated the Wiki
 (http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge) with initial pages for
 all of these cards, but I don't have any chip or technical details yet.

 

 The wholesalers in NZ have these 3 new cards as well in (but only the 2200 
 in stock at the moment). If I read right a while ago no PCI-E cards have any 
 drivers yet

 Its low profile which is good and from the pictures I've found can't really 
 see the chipset its using.

 Thanks
   

No DVB-T PCIe cards are currently supported, but there are most 
definitely PCIe cards supported (see ATSC PCIe cards).

Just a guess:
- HVR-1200 ... the DVB-T equivalent of the (supported) ATSC HVR-1250
- HVR-2200 ... the DVB-T equivalent of the (unsupported and unreleased) 
ATSC HVR-2250 ... problem numero uno: Philips saa7164
- HVR-1700 ... no idea  DVB-T equivalent of the ATSC HVR-1800 ?

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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-27 Thread Steven Toth
Craig Whitmore wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: Steven Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:02 PM
 Subject: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200,HVR-1700 and 
 HVR-1200
 
 
 Been reading up on these as it appears that the HVR-2200 is now available
 in Australia. I've updated the Wiki
 (http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge) with initial pages for
 all of these cards, but I don't have any chip or technical details yet.

 
 The wholesalers in NZ have these 3 new cards as well in (but only the 2200 
 in stock at the moment). If I read right a while ago no PCI-E cards have any 
 drivers yet
 
 Its low profile which is good and from the pictures I've found can't really 
 see the chipset its using.

These are Philips/NXP PCIe bridges, not supported under Linux.  Manu is 
working on a driver for the same family of silicon but don't assume 
anything.

- Steve



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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-27 Thread Steven Toth
Halim Sahin wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Can please someone explain why the hardware manufacturers are often 
 changing well working hardware designs?
 Now hauppauge seems to have a new card, new cips on it (and currently no 
 linux support?)?
 BR.
 Halim

You dropped the CC of the mailing list, so I added it back.

By someone, do you mean me?

- Steve

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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-27 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi,

 By someone, do you mean me?

Steve you can answer this Question if you want.
BR.
Halim


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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-27 Thread ptay1685
I would imagine that is usually to reduce costs. I assume that the buyers 
for the companies are always trying to negotiate lower prices to increase 
profit margins, and playing the various chip suppliers off against each 
other to shave a few cents off the components. If Dibcom refuse to lower 
their price any further, then the company will switch to ULI or some other 
manufacturer.

Supply volume might also be an issue - maybe the current manufacturer cannot 
provide enough volume.

Failure rate of the components might also be an issue.

Regards,

Phil.

- Original Message - 
From: Steven Toth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Halim Sahin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: linux-dvb linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 
and HVR-1200


 Halim Sahin wrote:
 Hello,

 Can please someone explain why the hardware manufacturers are often
 changing well working hardware designs?
 Now hauppauge seems to have a new card, new cips on it (and currently no
 linux support?)?
 BR.
 Halim

 You dropped the CC of the mailing list, so I added it back.

 By someone, do you mean me?

 - Steve

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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-27 Thread Halim Sahin
Hello,


I would imagine that is usually to reduce costs. I assume that the buyers 
for the companies are always trying to negotiate lower prices to increase 
profit margins, and playing the various chip suppliers off against each 
other to shave a few cents off the components. If Dibcom refuse to lower 
their price any further, then the company will switch to ULI or some other 
manufacturer.

 Supply volume might also be an issue - maybe the current manufacturer 
 cannot provide enough volume.

 Failure rate of the components might also be an issue.

I think the newer cards aren't realy better than the old ones.


I have a skystar2.6b. This card is working very well but Technisat produced 
newer versions without realy new features.
The only thing is the linuxdrivers need to be adapted for those cards.

Technotrend FF dvb-2.1 and the s-2300 is another example.

Sorry I hope you can understand what I mean.


BR.
Halim




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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-27 Thread Craig Whitmore

- Original Message - 
From: Halim Sahin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200,HVR-1700 
and HVR-1200


Has anyone actually put a HVR-2200 in a linux box and seen what happens? 
does linux find nothing or what? What exactly makes PCI-E cards hard to 
start to get right (or its not hard.. just no one has had time to do it?)

I might get one I have an HVR4000 with 1 DVB-T tuner at the moment and 
an extra 2 DVB-T tuners it would be nice (and we only have 3 transponder 
freqs in NZ and it would cover them all) (and I have 3 PCI-E slots free not 
in use)

Thanks


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[linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-26 Thread Steven Ellis
Been reading up on these as it appears that the HVR-2200 is now available
in Australia. I've updated the Wiki
(http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge) with initial pages for
all of these cards, but I don't have any chip or technical details yet.

Most of the information I could find was on their Singapore website -
http://www.hauppauge.com.sg/web-content/pages/prods_hvr.html

Can any of our Hauppauge contacts confirm the chipsets and technical details?

The fact that the HVR-2200 is a dual hybrid tuner with DVB-T and MPEG2
hardware capture makes it a very interesting product.

Steve

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Re: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200, HVR-1700 and HVR-1200

2008-02-26 Thread Craig Whitmore

- Original Message - 
From: Steven Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:02 PM
Subject: [linux-dvb] New Hauppauge DVB PCIe devices HVR-2200,HVR-1700 and 
HVR-1200


 Been reading up on these as it appears that the HVR-2200 is now available
 in Australia. I've updated the Wiki
 (http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge) with initial pages for
 all of these cards, but I don't have any chip or technical details yet.


The wholesalers in NZ have these 3 new cards as well in (but only the 2200 
in stock at the moment). If I read right a while ago no PCI-E cards have any 
drivers yet

Its low profile which is good and from the pictures I've found can't really 
see the chipset its using.

Thanks


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