Re: [linux-dvb] Please help: Looking for a solidly supported DVB-T USB stick

2007-07-22 Thread Nico Sabbi
Stephen Williams wrote:
 Surely this can't be too much to ask? I'm looking for a DVB-T USB
 stick which I can buy now and is solidly supported, that's all.
 
 Previously i've picked up a couple of MSI Digivox II sticks that when
 delivered turned out to be unsupported MSI Digivox II V2.0 sticks, so
 it's no longer safe to order those. Then I picked up a couple of MSI
 Mega Sky 580 sticks (the x5581 version) which appear to be incapable
 of receiving a decent signal under windows or linux (note that I
 haven't had signal problems with 4 previous DVB-T receivers).
 
 So i'm now hoping for third time lucky. Any suggestions of supported
 devices that are known to work without issues would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 I've checked the wiki for information but it all seems to be completed
 out of date.
 

I'm beginning to believe that from a tuning standpoint tinless tuners 
can't even remotely compare to tin-canned tuners (I tried quite a 
lot), let alone that they tend to overheat in short time and
to perform even worse when heat rises. Maybe usb sticks are not the 
best choice if you want a stable reception, or maybe I simply stumbled 
on the crap of the crop (as usual)

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Re: [linux-dvb] Please help: Looking for a solidly supported DVB-T USB stick

2007-07-22 Thread Andrea Venturi
Stephen Williams wrote:
 On 7/22/07, timecop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Believe it or not, I don't think any of them are solidly supported.

 USB bridge part should be down nicely, but since all the tuner / demod
 drivers are reverse engineered garbage (or even if they have docs, you
 got amateurs writing code), and as result don't work as good as
 expected...
 
 Thanks for your default troll response.
 
 Just because the code is reverse engineered or written by amateurs
 doesn't mean that it can't work solidly. Certainly my old Nova-T PCI
 card worked flawlessly but now i've moved to a mac mini so there's no
 PCI.

[ sorry for the rant, i'm writing to everyone excpet timecop ]

as you already wrote, it's trolling, so you don't need to justify..

we all bery well know how free software communities run and strive to
give the best not only as a simple volunteer effort but also for
straight economical reasons ( reliability, control, efficiency,
standardization etc..).

 
 Does anyone have comments on the Nova-TD / Pinnacle Diversity (i.e.
 dual DVB-T tuner) support?

i do own a pinnacle diversity dvb-t usb dual tuner card and i used it
with an additional patch:

  http://www.chez.com/treza/mt2266.htm
  http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2007-February/016166.html

it works reliably as a dual tuner card.

the diversity feature is not working (for dual tuner operations, you
need both the antennae input connected..)

bye

andrea venturi

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[linux-dvb] Please help: Looking for a solidly supported DVB-T USB stick

2007-07-21 Thread Stephen Williams
Surely this can't be too much to ask? I'm looking for a DVB-T USB
stick which I can buy now and is solidly supported, that's all.

Previously i've picked up a couple of MSI Digivox II sticks that when
delivered turned out to be unsupported MSI Digivox II V2.0 sticks, so
it's no longer safe to order those. Then I picked up a couple of MSI
Mega Sky 580 sticks (the x5581 version) which appear to be incapable
of receiving a decent signal under windows or linux (note that I
haven't had signal problems with 4 previous DVB-T receivers).

So i'm now hoping for third time lucky. Any suggestions of supported
devices that are known to work without issues would be greatly
appreciated.

I've checked the wiki for information but it all seems to be completed
out of date.

Thanks,
Stephen

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Re: [linux-dvb] Please help: Looking for a solidly supported DVB-T USB stick

2007-07-21 Thread timecop
Believe it or not, I don't think any of them are solidly supported.

USB bridge part should be down nicely, but since all the tuner / demod
drivers are reverse engineered garbage (or even if they have docs, you
got amateurs writing code), and as result don't work as good as
expected...

-tc

On 7/22/07, Stephen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Surely this can't be too much to ask? I'm looking for a DVB-T USB
 stick which I can buy now and is solidly supported, that's all.

 Previously i've picked up a couple of MSI Digivox II sticks that when
 delivered turned out to be unsupported MSI Digivox II V2.0 sticks, so
 it's no longer safe to order those. Then I picked up a couple of MSI
 Mega Sky 580 sticks (the x5581 version) which appear to be incapable
 of receiving a decent signal under windows or linux (note that I
 haven't had signal problems with 4 previous DVB-T receivers).

 So i'm now hoping for third time lucky. Any suggestions of supported
 devices that are known to work without issues would be greatly
 appreciated.

 I've checked the wiki for information but it all seems to be completed
 out of date.

 Thanks,
 Stephen

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Re: [linux-dvb] Please help: Looking for a solidly supported DVB-T USB stick

2007-07-21 Thread Stephen Williams
On 7/22/07, timecop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Believe it or not, I don't think any of them are solidly supported.

 USB bridge part should be down nicely, but since all the tuner / demod
 drivers are reverse engineered garbage (or even if they have docs, you
 got amateurs writing code), and as result don't work as good as
 expected...

Thanks for your default troll response.

Just because the code is reverse engineered or written by amateurs
doesn't mean that it can't work solidly. Certainly my old Nova-T PCI
card worked flawlessly but now i've moved to a mac mini so there's no
PCI.

Does anyone have comments on the Nova-TD / Pinnacle Diversity (i.e.
dual DVB-T tuner) support?

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Re: [linux-dvb] Please help: Looking for a solidly supported DVB-T USB stick

2007-07-21 Thread P. van Gaans
Stephen Williams wrote:
 Surely this can't be too much to ask? I'm looking for a DVB-T USB
 stick which I can buy now and is solidly supported, that's all.
 
 Previously i've picked up a couple of MSI Digivox II sticks that when
 delivered turned out to be unsupported MSI Digivox II V2.0 sticks, so
 it's no longer safe to order those. Then I picked up a couple of MSI
 Mega Sky 580 sticks (the x5581 version) which appear to be incapable
 of receiving a decent signal under windows or linux (note that I
 haven't had signal problems with 4 previous DVB-T receivers).
 
 So i'm now hoping for third time lucky. Any suggestions of supported
 devices that are known to work without issues would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 I've checked the wiki for information but it all seems to be completed
 out of date.
 
 Thanks,
 Stephen
 
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The Mega Sky 580 overall works fine, but it doesn't like a very strong 
signal - if you have a booster, try to weaken it a bit.

I also have a Afatech AF9005, VT doesn't work yet (not sure what that is 
but wiki says so), but it doesn't have a problem with strong signals. 
Scanning with Kaffeine was also problematic last time I tried, but if 
you don't use Kaffeine it should work fine.

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