[linux-dvb] Professional trolls -- was Re: Re : Re : Compiling dvb-usb-adapter module outside the kernel source.
Hi all, On 8/1/07, manu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing can excuse hatred messages as I said I do believe that, especially when we talk about communities in free/open source, whe should behave as such, that does not include racist/xenophobic behaviours. To be honest I dont think it is worth talking one more minutes about this, it is a waste of time. Unfortunately, we have been infested with professional trolls. We can't help much in such a case, the only thing what we can do is to ignore them. Basically trolls are people who find it hard to mix in their surroundings and or community and hence they do not have anything else to do and hence find more interest in trolling/insulting others. My request is that all you folks just ignore the trolls, once they are found to be trolls, ignore them completely in all senses. Sometimes, they throw in small technical pieces, such as to attract as bait, but it would be up to the users not to take the bait. Regards, Manu ___ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
Re: [linux-dvb] Professional trolls -- was Re: Re : Re : Compiling dvb-usb-adapter module outside the kernel source.
On 8/1/07, Manu Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, On 8/1/07, manu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing can excuse hatred messages as I said I do believe that, especially when we talk about communities in free/open source, whe should behave as such, that does not include racist/xenophobic behaviours. To be honest I dont think it is worth talking one more minutes about this, it is a waste of time. Unfortunately, we have been infested with professional trolls. We can't help much in such a case, the only thing what we can do is to ignore them. Basically trolls are people who find it hard to mix in their surroundings and or community and hence they do not have anything else to do and hence find more interest in trolling/insulting others. My request is that all you folks just ignore the trolls, once they are found to be trolls, ignore them completely in all senses. Sometimes, they throw in small technical pieces, such as to attract as bait, but it would be up to the users not to take the bait. I would say there's a deeper reason behind everything. People don't come up with nonsense if there's no reason for.. that for signing up and writing annoying things takes just too much time for most people (well there's one known exception). It's the internal problems this project has which reflects to the outside world. You, I and several others are also part of that problem, and at least to me it seems to be unsolvable the way it is at the moment. If you remember the words you've written a few weeks ago that you'll never ask Mauro to pull your code, but you fight for your code which you have committed earlier to the v4l-dvb project and don't accept patches which have been written by others (eg. Trent). Either you're overloaded with what you're doing or just try to take care that everything you ever touched belongs to you and noone has access to it .. I don't know. Markus ___ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
Re: [linux-dvb] Professional trolls -- was Re: Re : Re : Compiling dvb-usb-adapter module outside the kernel source.
Though it is feeding the troll, i will bite this bait: On 8/1/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the internal problems this project has which reflects to the outside world. You, I and several others are also part of that problem, and at least to me it seems to be unsolvable the way it is at the moment. Why should you care about the project's internal problem, when you aren't part of it. I don't think so. remember the words you've written a few weeks ago that you'll never ask Mauro to pull your code, but you fight for your code which you have committed earlier to the v4l-dvb project and don't accept patches which have been written by others (eg. Trent). Oh, BTW: I take in patches that are sensible from the device POV, not just something that is written from a patch POV. Either you're overloaded with what you're doing or just try to take care that everything you ever touched belongs to you and noone has access to it .. I don't know. I don't care how you interpret what i am doing. So, Feel free to make your own assumptions, it's not possible within my capabilities, to clear the cloud in your head. NOTE: Also, feel free to feed the trolls, as your best buddy's are the trolls. My comments were to the normal users, having no clouds in their heads. HTH, Manu ___ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
Re: [linux-dvb] Professional trolls -- was Re: Re : Re : Compiling dvb-usb-adapter module outside the kernel source.
Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 20:55 +0400 schrieb Manu Abraham: Hi all, On 8/1/07, manu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing can excuse hatred messages as I said I do believe that, especially when we talk about communities in free/open source, whe should behave as such, that does not include racist/xenophobic behaviours. To be honest I dont think it is worth talking one more minutes about this, it is a waste of time. Unfortunately, we have been infested with professional trolls. We can't help much in such a case, the only thing what we can do is to ignore them. Basically trolls are people who find it hard to mix in their surroundings and or community and hence they do not have anything else to do and hence find more interest in trolling/insulting others. My request is that all you folks just ignore the trolls, once they are found to be trolls, ignore them completely in all senses. Sometimes, they throw in small technical pieces, such as to attract as bait, but it would be up to the users not to take the bait. Regards, Manu Manu, could you be a bit more precise about _your personal_ troll list? Since I suspect you are still sending unrequested mails, announced as PRIVATE NOTES, behind the visible lines, like you did with me, when I asked, why you always cry like mad in case something comes in from v4l? The most evil troll stuff I have ever seen came exactly from you. Most evil, because not even public, and leaving only one choice, agree with your personal feelings or die. We have discussed on this internally, since you have been on the trip who rules by the sword, must die by the sword and found all sort of excuses for you, and hoped again ... Like I did after you firstly were going out of any known rules, waiting for about six weeks, if that could ever be really be meant serious ... Nothing happened! Mike, as I know now, abused by you for your run against Mauro, as said already, you could have had it all during long previously, has not seen any excuse until now, not to talk about Mauro. You did not talk to the v4l maintainer for one year, just some misunderstanding on bttv v4l2 conversion was enough for that, you had all time before to do something better on it, it was wide open. YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SEEN AT ALL. After all, it seems to me that you are exactly the backstage politician you claim others to be. There is _nobody_ else on linux-dvb, who ever behaved like that. Cheers, Hermann ___ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
