Re: Running installation in a screen
Hi, On Wednesday 04 July 2007 11:22, Michael Tautschnig wrote: IMHO you will - either in fai.log or shell.log. or software.log :) regards, Holger pgp76IdRtSsla.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI kernels versus regular Debian kernels
Hi, On Tuesday 03 July 2007 17:34, Tim Cutts wrote: As far as I can tell, just that they don't use an initrd. They contain all the drivers required to get the network up and start NFS- root, compiled in statically, and then everything else is modules in the NFS root filesystem. That's correct. By now fai-kernels has been requested to be removed from unstable (and thus will not be part of lenny), as fai in svn works without fai-kernels (and with nfsroot-capable initrds). regards, Holger pgpMc2W14hX1N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Using FAI to install a root Server
Hi Torsten, On Friday 11 May 2007 17:37, Torsten Schlabach wrote: I cannot use that support guy; it was pure chance that a remote reset did not work, so I had to use their support and he told me that. If I make them fix that, they are going to charge be an unreasonable amount of money for remote hands. If it's just a single box, I would definitly remotly install manually with debian-installer (either via serial console or ssh) a base system and then use FAI softupdates to configure the machine and keep it up to date. That way you also dont need nfs at all. regards, Holger pgpHWXjUN3p2C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Using FAI to install a root Server
Hi, On Friday 11 May 2007 18:17, Thomas Lange wrote: system and then use FAI softupdates to configure the machine and keep it up to date. Holger, this is the FAI mailing list. We do not want to install manually :-) Thomas, I seriously think you're wasting FAIs potential if you insist on doing fully automatic installations only with FAI. To me FAI means Fine automated infrastructure. And sometimes doing manually installations and just doing the rest (which is usually more than 95% of the work) with FAI is much more sensible than insisting on fully automatic installations. regards, Holger pgpeXiOGPRfh5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fai kernel
Moin, Du brauchst mich nicht cc:en, ich lese die Liste.. das gilt immer noch... Sind die Verzeichnisse bei der 3.1.8 die selben? siehe /usr/share/doc/fai-client/NEWS.Debian.gz und meine Server teils 4GB ram haben und der basic kern leider nur 900MB erkennt. Das ist ein Bug. Entweder im Kernel oder in Deiner Konfiguration. Gruß, Holger pgp8Lz5Eg6sbq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fai kernel
Hi, On Saturday 21 April 2007 19:57, Daniel wrote: Wo genau müssen die custom kernel den nun hinterlegt werden? Werden sie noch immer an der selben stellen wie sonst eingetragen? /etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot.conf:KERNELPACKAGE= Gruß, Holger pgpfDRboqaCZu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fai kernel
Moin, Du brauchst mich nicht cc:en, ich lese die Liste.. On Sunday 22 April 2007 16:24, you wrote: dann mußt Du das auch sagen :-P dachte das sei klar gewesen ;) Meine Kristallkugel ist gerade kaputt :( Hast Du die eigenen Kernel in einem eigenen Repository? Oder liegen die nur so auf dem Server rum? sie liegen einfach nur so rum so zu sagen ;) Bei der 2.x hab ich das so gemacht: http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Using_customized_kernels_w ith_FAI Das hat auch super geklappt.. bei der 3.1.8 find ich irgentwie den ansatz nicht wohin das muss usw.. ;( Genauso. (Wobei das Howto im wesentlichen beschreibt, wie eigene fai-kernel zu bauen sind. Wozu brauchst Du überhaupt nen Custom-kernel?) Gruß, Holger pgpQX4BusUWm4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fai kernel
Hi, On Sunday 22 April 2007 15:39, you wrote: das ist der kernel fuer das NFSROOT das ist ja oke und das tut auch. Aber ich möchte das die clients auch meine custom kernel bekommen ;) dann mußt Du das auch sagen :-P Hast Du die eigenen Kernel in einem eigenen Repository? Oder liegen die nur so auf dem Server rum? Gruß, Holger pgpnN9ltcBPqp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrade FAI 2.10.2 to FAI 3
Hi, On Friday 20 April 2007 09:44, Rudy Gevaert wrote: Also, I read etch comes with cfengine2, but if I keep my sarge nfsroot Idon't have to change my cfengine1 scripts. Right? Only if I do a chroot into the new system I have to know what is running. sarge has cfengine2, cfengine1 is not supported upstream anymore and has some issues. so I just switched to cfengine2 for sarge and etch :-) regards, Holger pgpdfdcQ3zm0r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI CD for etch using FAI 3.1.8 available
Hi, On Friday 20 April 2007 20:08, Michael Tautschnig wrote: A new ISO image of the FAI CD using the newest FAI release 3.1.8 and etch packages is available at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/fai-cd/ Currently it's only available for i386, not for amd64. Has it become possible again to create FAI-CDs? I thought that this is still broken - seems like I'm missing something :-) h01ger Mrfai, the new fai cd, were you be able to build it completly in etch, or did you use sarge packages as well? Mrfai I've create the mirror, nfsroot and config space on etch, create some tarballs, copied thos tarball to a sarge machine and build the iso image there. h01ger so you cant build a fai cd in etch? (i'm asking not to tell other people something wrong) h01ger and i (slowly) resumed working on the new fai cd today ;) Mrfai no you can't. Except if you have a sarge chroot on an etch system. h01ger well :) btw, i commited a fix today, which hopefully fixed the faicd produced with live-helper (from the live.debian.net project) available at faicd.debian.net - sources are in svn/people/h01ger/faicd I havent tested the change yet, as I'm busy with other stuff, but I'll test it tomorrow and report back. If you download the iso from faicd.d.n today, its still broken, you need to boot with vmlinuz initrd=initrd.gz boot=casper - hopefully tomorrow the syslinux-config is fixed (its autobuild daily) and you can just boot the cd. (Which will erase your harddrive :) regards, Holger Holger pgptXngaSoBnV.pgp Description: PGP signature
fcopy exits with an error if file is not updated because its up2date
Hi, fcopy exits with an error if a file is not updated because its up2date, I believe that is a bug. Because everything _is_ ok. So I used to always do fcopy -i foo, which today I have changed to fcopy foo || true - which at least will tell me in the logs that something is wrong. But I would prefer not to get an exitcode!=0 from fcopy in the first place. Opinions? BTW: the fcopy manpage says OPTIONS Options -c, -s, -t (or their analog variables) and a SOURCE are required. This is not true anymore. regards, Holger P.S.: resent because I have not received it on the list. pgp6oR0yM4X4D.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Nach dem update von sarge auf etch
Moin, On Friday 13 April 2007 12:20, Henning Sprang wrote: Sagst du uns auch, wen oder was du von sarge auf etch upgedated hast, und wie genau, und wer er ist? Jup, die Infos brauchen wir :) FAI_CONFIG_SRC ist neu, ist das in fai.conf gesetzt? Gruß, Holger pgpmJqgG7BSIY.pgp Description: PGP signature
fcopy exits with an error if file is not updated because its up2date
Hi, fcopy exits with an error if a file is not updated because its up2date, I believe that is a bug. Because everything _is_ ok. So I used to always do fcopy -i foo, which today I have changed to fcopy foo || true - which at least will tell me in the logs that something is wrong. But I would prefer not to get an exitcode!=0 from fcopy in the first place. Opinions? BTW: the fcopy manpage says OPTIONS Options -c, -s, -t (or their analog variables) and a SOURCE are required. This is not true anymore. regards, Holger pgpzVocnYjqeo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: managing passwords
Hi, On Tuesday 10 April 2007 17:47, Stephan Hermann wrote: To be more precise, the deployment network is not accessible from the production/management network. As this is not helpful for Rudy - unless he wants to move servers from the production network to the mgmt net for each softupdates, which probably would be possible with some evil hacks^w^wadvanced usage of switches...: fcopy has support for pre-inst and post-inst scripts. So you can extract the password from the file before the copying and put it back in afterwards. (Or just not fcopy it, if the file contains a certain magic string ;) regards, Holger pgpGoYGPsNl5E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fai on redhat/fedora/foo
Hi, On Sunday 08 April 2007 21:27, Henning Sprang wrote: On 3/21/07, Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you have any further experiences with this? Yes. I now create the rpms with alien and fixed install_packages to work, if apt isnt installed :) I'll publish the code in a branch shortly. BTW: running FAI on Fedora is not really necessary to install fedora with FAI. Right. I dont want to install fedora with fai, but from fedora live-cds :) I just want to update the systems with fai ;-) And I don't want a nfs/fai-server around... Still, I'd be happy if you'd share some of the things you did... Will do, will do. No worries :) regards, Holger pgpYQtocUTEkB.pgp Description: PGP signature
fai on redhat/fedora/foo
Hi, I'm investigating using FAI to manage Fedora installations, but README.build-sources only talks about building a FAI package on debian. Obviously I can use alien to convert the .deb into an .rpm, but I'm unconvicent whether this will work well (and I'm lazy thats why I write this mail :) Does anybody have more current tips (or even .rpms) for me? regards, Holger pgpPtXgcEpahV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI on GRML Live CD
Hi, On Thursday 25 January 2007 22:21, you wrote: I talk about a _real_ live cd. A running FAI Server. Fot a network installation. Ah, I missed that. Might be related to the fever I currently have. If you want to tell me that you alo think about a real live cd, please write this in a full sentence, I want to tell you that I think it's easily possible to build another live-cd (thats what the faicd is) with the same setup (well minimal changes needed to build two different cds) on the same server. If you want to do this, I'm happy to do the changes with you. regards, Holger pgpVsWddRL3at.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI on GRML Live CD
Hi, On Friday 26 January 2007 02:25, Henning wrote: wishlist-form - not because I don't like your faicd project (but I also knew, your cd is an install cd, no live-cd). It's a live-cd which happens to do an installation. So we have two choices: make the user selection upon booting, if he or she wants to boot an install-server or install the system, or to create to different cds. I prefer the second option. regards, Holger pgpZ1ySa9h9ct.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI on GRML Live CD
On Friday 26 January 2007 15:05, I wrote: It's a live-cd which happens to do an installation. So we have two choices: make the user selection upon booting, if he or she s/selection/select/ wants to boot an install-server or install the system, or to create to s/to create to/to create two/ different cds. I prefer the second option. regards, Holger pgpvTxQ3OvE5w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI on GRML Live CD
Hi, On Thursday 25 January 2007 10:18, you wrote: If not I'd like to try to remaster GRML to include FAI myself. But then, I'd also try the other possibilities of making a live cd and see what's best. http://faicd.debian.net svn://svn.debian.org/fai/people/h01ger/faicd/ http://layer-acht.org/slides/20070115_debian-live_LCA2007.pdf (or .odp) You're welcome to contribute. enjoy, Holger pgpykfBP7oRUB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 3.1.3: FAIBASE install fixes from kubuntu/edgy
Hi, On Wednesday 20 December 2006 23:09, you wrote: I've tried an fai 3.1.3 installation on Edgy. The appended patch makes a FAIBASE installation succeed: Can you please file wishlist bugs for this issues, with a patch for each issue. This has the greatest probability of getting accepted in trunk (after etch is released). regards, Holger pgpDW37YNcHVX.pgp Description: PGP signature
ship with this bug in etch?
Hi, I dont think it's a good idea to ship util-vserver with a broken build method for fai-vservers in etch. What do you think? regards, Holger pgpCJxIjS62wq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: setup_harddisk and softupdate
Hi, On Friday 08 December 2006 23:44, Janning Vygen wrote: Or is there any truly reliable method to decide if softupdate run before sure. take care of it in your hook: if [ ! -e /var/log/fai/1st_softupdate ] ; then touch /var/log/fai/1st_softupdate /usr/lib/fai/sbin/setup_harddisks -X fi regards, Holger pgpQimOgf9lVa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Building VServers with FAI
Hi, On Thursday 07 December 2006 14:17, you wrote: How do you manage to nfs-mount the fai config space into the namespace of the vserver for softupdates? (Or do you use CVS/SVN for configuration?) I use svn. Besides not having the nfs-problems you describe (and the additional problem that I dont have an nfs-server there), I also have the benefit of having version control and I can use one svn-repository accessable via ssh (so it's readable only to people/hosts I want and I can safely and easily use it over the internet.) regards, Holger pgpnKPKOAWmpb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sending DHCP requests .... timed out
Hi, On Sunday 03 December 2006 17:50, Thomas Lange wrote: Are you using a Cisco switch? I had similar problems with Cisco switches when not enabling the fastport feature (this disables spanning tree). But Ingo wrote, those cards work with the debian-installer (and others)... so I don't think it's the switch. Ingo, do current debian-installer daily builds (which (should) use 2.6.18) work as well? Debian-installer etch RC1 had 2.6.17, but the dailys should have .18 by now... regards, Holger pgpZNq8hWFWVO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: trouble running fai-cd (fai 3.1.1 etch)
Hi, On Thursday 30 November 2006 12:50, Thomas Memenga wrote: But mkinitrd-cd is not available in etch. Is fai-cd broken in 3.1.1 for etch ? Yes. regards, Holger pgpPWAKF1H0SB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Maintaining Xen with FAI - Questions
Hi, On Thursday 30 November 2006 14:08, Henning Sprang wrote: Network, disk, NFS should be about it... and IP PNP, in case the installserver address and ip should come via dhcp as usually with FAI. Debian Xen kernels lack all these AFAIK. Are those issues filed as bugs in the Debian BTS? regards, Holger pgp4IvCncbh0X.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Anfängerfrage
Hi, On Thursday 30 November 2006 13:26, Janning Vygen wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-fai@rrz.uni-koeln.de/msg03279.html Dort wird FAI auf der Ramdsik gebootet. Das scheint perfekt für mich zu sein, da ich kein NFS brauche und mir einfach mein Image einmal als initrd.gz bastel und auf jedem Server das nur hochladen brauch, den bootloader anpasse und ein reboot installiert mir dann die ganze Kiste. Wenn ich das richtig verstehe, dass das die Lösung für alle FAI User bei Hostingprovidern ist, dann sollte das unbedingt mit ins Handbuch! Also ich lebe wunderbar mit reinen softupdates, aber wenn Du uns patches fürs Handbuch schickst (und die taugen), nehmen wir die sehr gerne an+auf :) Wo finde ich die Doku zu dem Kernel parameter ip? $kernel_source/Documentation/nfsroot.txt regards, Holger pgpL4K4eRvMo2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Maintaining Xen with FAI - Questions
Hi, On Thursday 30 November 2006 15:03, you wrote: Are those issues filed as bugs in the Debian BTS? No, not yet, I have it on my todo list but was too lazy yet and anyway use my own kernels - but ye, it's quite important to us (FAI people) - it would be actually needed for people getting xen installed with FAI net installs with standard debian kernels... If it's important, then you should file those bugs, they might even still be fixed in time for etch. By chance I just stumbled about #390862 - so it seems you need to file one less :-) regards, Holger -- quoting http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.de.html#codeofconduct When using the Debian mailing lists, please follow these rules:... When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be copied. We live in the year 2006, a few bytes wasted in the footer of a mail don't hurt anymore, but everybody is flooded with information and attention is a spare ressource. If you send a mail cc: to a list and to me, it will catch my attention even if I have none. Please don't. Unless you specifically want to catch my attention of course :) But If I don't say otherwise, I'm subscribed to the mailinglist (and this is true for non-Debian lists as well) and you don't need to cc: me. Thanks. pgplCCG66Qc12.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Anfängerfrage
Hi, On Wednesday 29 November 2006 19:41, Janning Vygen wrote: Bei einigen Konfigurationen von Datenbankservern ist es wichtig zu partionieren. Kann man beim softupdate irgendwie trotzdem partionieren? Ja, mittels hooks. Kann man beim softupdate die Konfigurationen zentral halten über cvs? Ja. FAI kann auf den configspace via file, cvs svn zugreifen. softupdate ist FAI. Gruß, Holger pgpc83V11vWK5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: setting up nfsroot on server whose ubuntu release differs from server's release doesn't work...
Hi Henning, maybe you should look into cdebootstrap, it doesnt require a static list of packages... regards, Holger pgpeMUzEf7Flz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fai server can be a different architecture from clients?
Hi, On Wednesday 22 November 2006 21:20, Thomas Lange wrote: But AFAIK your FAI server cannot export a nfsroot via NFS which was mounted by NFS from another server. I know you can re-export them, but you need to set a special option. But I just looked in man exports and it's not described there :( But two minutes searching the web should give the answer :) regards, Holger pgp6Pn9PFUtml.pgp Description: PGP signature
fai live-cd now autobuild daily
Hi, at http://failive.debian.net/ you will find iso-images and build-logs of the new fai live-cd based on live-package. An iso image is autobuild daily at 8 UTC based on the configs in svn:people/h01ger/live-CD/ WARNING: Booting this live-cd will ERASE YOUR HARDDISK!! Currently I don't have much time to spend on this, but I am happy if someone wants to work on this and commit into people/h01ger/live-CD - please just tell me (once) before you do so. Currently Oliver Osburg is working a bit on it. At the moment it's just a proof of concept, in future I would like to see two live-CDs: (first) one, which installs a fai-server without any questions. And then, one, where the user can choose (via ncurses interface) simple classes (fai-server, kde-desktop, foo), which then get installed. regards, Holger pgp09uY8XNYZj.pgp Description: PGP signature
fai-kernels 1.13 uploaded to sid
Hi, fai-kernels 1.13 featuring 2.6.18 has been uploaded to sid, with urgency=low, so if no RC bugs are filed, it will enter etch in ten days. fai 3.1.1 will migrate to testing in three days (if no RC bugs are filed). So in four days a new version of fai matching the new fai-kernels could be uploaded. http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=fai http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=fai-kernels fai-kernels was built on amd64 and the i386 autobuilder has not built it yet, you can get i386 packages from http://layer-acht.org/fai-kernels/ regards, Holger pgp1DnSeslWG6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: any network drivers missing in fai-kernels?
Hi, On Tuesday 14 November 2006 13:56, Steffen Grunewald wrote: Why limit to network? Network needs to be compiled into the kernel, while the rest can be modules. Thats the only diff. It might (is!) useful to have common RAID controllers supported by FAI as well - 3ware (7000/8000 series, and 9000 series), and Can you please tell me the name of the option? Areca (arcmsr, has to be included by hand from ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw/RaidCards/AP_Drivers/Linux/DRIVER/SourceCode/) come to mind... No way, sorry. We use the standard debian kernel source tree. it might also make sense to activate IPMI support. Can you please tell me the name of the option and what it does? And please, if you have such a request, open a bug against fai-kernels. If you just reply to this mail, I'll forward it to the BTS! :) (Because we are late in the release process and changes should be tracked properly now.) Feel free to do so :) Actually it would help me, if you would file seperate bugs yourself. *You* know how to do that ;) And isn't it nicer to share the work? regards, Holger pgph8ITkdJWCz.pgp Description: PGP signature
any network drivers missing in fai-kernels?
Hi, I'm about to upload a new version of fai-kernels, based on 2.6.18. Since we dont need to care about the 1.44mb kernel-size (there are now configs for floppies so the few users who need to actually fit on this size can+have to build their own package), I could add more drivers to the kernel. Do you know of any (network) drivers which are missing in 2.6.18? You can checkout the fai-kernels package anonymously from svn with the following command: svn co svn://svn.debian.org/svn/fai/people/h01ger/fai-kernels/ Then look into kernel-config-2.6.(i386|amd64|powerpc) and see if your driver is missing. Thanks! I will probably (let someone) upload the package today anyway - but doing another upload with more drivers later is no issue :) And please, if you have such a request, open a bug against fai-kernels. If you just reply to this mail, I'll forward it to the BTS! :) (Because we are late in the release process and changes should be tracked properly now.) regards, Holger pgp8nruPL8IEu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fai-kernels for etch
Hi, On Thursday 09 November 2006 00:46, Steve Langasek wrote: I think getting a 2.6.18 fai into sid ASAP is a good idea. I agree, I don't see any reason to wait (or even to file an RC bug, since everyone knows 2.6.18 will be pushed into etch before release). The only reason to wait would be that (current version of) fai will not work out of the box, as the default fai.conf includes the version string. Looking at http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=fai I see that it will take fai 8 days to migrate to testing. So if fai-kernels gets uploaded tomorrow or today (with urgency=low), Thomas could do an urgency=high upload of fai in 8/9 days with only that change and fai and fai-kernels should enter testing at the same time. (And fai would only be broken in sid for these days, but never in testing.) regards, Holger pgpoUMYZW5aaF.pgp Description: PGP signature
fai-kernels for etch
Hi, due to time contraints (and then starting too late) I failed with making fai work (in a releasable fashion) with the standard debian kernels in time for etch, so fai in etch will need fai-kernels :-( I already discussed this with Dann Frazier (bcc:ed), who said doing security support for fai-kernels is no problem. (After all, it's just adding a changelog entry and rebuilding the package once a new linux-source-$version is available.) So I have one question: should I *now* (let someone) upload a new version of fai-kernels with build-depends on linux-source-2.6.18 and then open a RC bug to prevent it from migrating to etch? Or should I wait with an upload until 2.6.18 has entered etch? I fear that the freeze will happen then... Though as there are no big changes in fai-kernels planned, I think a review of fai-kernels is painless. regards, Holger P.S.: the day after etch has been released fai-kernels can be removed from unstable :) We are basically there, but the changes are too drastic and untested for etch. pgpC9JOqlE1wo.pgp Description: PGP signature
commit mails
Hi, currently the commit mails have the from address [EMAIL PROTECTED] - wouldn't it be much nicer if the from address where the actual comitter, for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?! For example it's easy to spot, if the subject says trunk* and the commiter is not Thomas :) If we agree this is useful, I can easily do the change, but I believe Thomas needs to change the posting policy of the commit-list, or? regards, Holger pgpXkz3XcaKrG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: commit mails
Hi, On Thursday 02 November 2006 00:55, you wrote: Yes, I'd absolutely prefer it that way, if this sender address is an appropriate address, i.e., is email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] accepted? Test. Thomas also said he liked that, we're testing the mailfilter atm too. regards, Holger pgpgrxxvvQQye.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Building VServers with FAI
Hi, On Wednesday 01 November 2006 14:15, Gebhardt Thomas wrote: I'm trying to build VServers (www.linux-vservers.org) with the help of FAI and noticed, that there is a script /usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver-build.fai from Sam Vilain, which is distributed with debian etch. where in etch did you fid this script, in which package? (i doubt its in etch..) I found a patch that makes 'grep -qw VIRTUAL $FAI_NFSROOT/usr/sbin/fai' become true (please correct me, if I missed something). vserver-build.fai is in its early state of development and requires Sam Vilains branch of fai. (For reasons I failed to understand.) I just use the normal debootstrap build method for vservers and then run fai softupdate on top. Works great :) Is there a special VServer edition of FAI floating around? I happily use fai with vservers with the good old 2.8.4 version :) But I'm using softupdates... regards, Holger pgpikouWl5W8i.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: compilation suggestion 2.6.17
Hi, On Wednesday 01 November 2006 14:57, cedric briner wrote: I'm having a too huge kernel which doesn't fit into 1.4Mb. So do you have any idea of big static modules that I could put in modules to save space. You can remove all network drivers you dont need. regards, HOlger pgpt4dVAma5h9.pgp Description: PGP signature
vserver-build.fai doesnt work with fai in debian
package: util-vserver version: 0.30.211-1 Hi, vserver-build.fai included in util-vserver only works with a development branch of fai, but not with the fai from trunk or the one in debian. I know it's an upstream issue but it should at least be documented. regards, Holger On Wednesday 01 November 2006 18:19, Thomas Lange wrote: usr/lib/util-vserver/net/util-vserver So it's in the package util-vserver Then util-versver follows upstream quite closely, good :) pgpr9LLvW6ETh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vserver-build.fai doesnt work with fai in debian
Hi, On Wednesday 01 November 2006 18:42, Holger Levsen wrote: package: util-vserver version: 0.30.211-1 Hi, vserver-build.fai included in util-vserver only works with a development branch of fai, but not with the fai from trunk or the one in debian. I know it's an upstream issue but it should at least be documented. This is #396593 now. regards, Holger pgpCdeT66mLr4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debtags for FAI?
Hi, On Friday 13 October 2006 15:08, Henning wrote: My proposed tags: system, installation, automatic, auto-installation, auto-install, auto-installer, custom-install-cd (I don't know of tags can have white spaces, if they can, I'd make that custom install cd), netinstall In debtags, you dont just invent tages but use existing tags :-) http://wiki.debian.org/DebTaggingGuidelines http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/ Are both useful to read. A list of existing tags can be found at /var/lib/debtags/vocabulary or http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/tags/vocabulary.gz HTH, Holger pgp1ZQ3FnJlUo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel 2.4 and etch (was Re: Bug#367476: marked as done (make-fai-nfsroot doesn't create a proper dev/ directory))
Hi, On Wednesday 11 October 2006 12:35, you wrote: Then, how is 2.4 supposed to work debootstrap, which doesn't even create the required /dev-nodes? file a bug, really. regards, Holger pgpahevRtodE0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI3 / mdadm
Hi, On Wednesday 04 October 2006 09:09, Frederik Wagner wrote: Setting up mdadm (2.5.3.git200608202239-6) ... dpkg: error processing mdadm (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 mdadm 2.5.3.git200608202239-7 which fixes this, is now available in testing. regards, Holger pgpeAXSN1WCXt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI3 / mdadm
Hi, On Wednesday 04 October 2006 15:19, Henning Sprang wrote: Does that mean that we will have no possibility to setup RAID systems with FAI (3.0 in etch, I assume?!) until this is fixed? relax: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=mdadm - and the freeze for this package has been unblocked many times in the past... Also note that the maintainer said in the bugreport that he believes mdadm from sid fixes the problem. You could try this and report here. regards, Holger pgpQNqV3csbfi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: disk_var.sh copied during softupdates?
Hi, On Wednesday 04 October 2006 00:01, you wrote: IMO it's just for historical reasons. I'm not the softupdate guru, but I think I added this because the information from disk_var.sh are needed during softupdate what are they needed for? and if someone changes the data in disk_var.sh we need the last version of disk_var.sh during softupdate. If this is not correct feel free to fill a bug report and tell me how to do it better. not copy it at all? Systems which are not set up with fai don't have it... Or define a class if disk_var.sh does exist and then do stuff (I suspect it's used to install/overwrite the bootloader...) regards, Holger pgpsVa3W7btmW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: script failed but no error message
Hi, first of all: please don't cc: me, I'm subscribed. On Saturday 30 September 2006 16:54, Henning wrote: The only problem with this is, as it affects some files like scripts/LAST/50-misc you will have to manage nearly same (only one line is different) copies of that file in two locations. right.. One Idea how to solve that: For example the hwclock part could split out into the script 55-set-hwclock ( which is anyway better zthan misc which is knid meaningless), and in the xen and vserver example there's a check added if the class is not VSERVER or XENU. A user who wants to use the additional example needs then to copy examples/xen/* over the simple examples to get both. I think copying files over the other is not so good. I'd rather like to see another class, REALHARDWARE, which does not get defined in case the system is a xen-instance, a vserver or a chroot. But I also think this is advanced usage, so I would propose to accept that the simple examples cause errors in this special (or not so special) cases and have a (complete, without copying over) advanced example config dir, which has such a REALHARDWARE class. Such a class is also useful for other stuff, like configuring munin or mrtg. regards, Holger pgpyth0Jizyrh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: script failed but no error message
Hi, On Thursday 28 September 2006 00:53, Henning Sprang wrote: + chroot /tmp/target hwclock --utc --systohc error=1 I assume it has something to do with Xen, as domU's don't have a hwclock... I'll make that line optional when the class XENU is deinfed. Maybe interesting for the simple examples when we want to do Xen installs. This is also useful for vservers which cannot set the hwclock as well... Maybe introducing another class, REALHW, would be better than not executing tihs when XENU or VSERVER is defined. regards, Holger pgp6rnYAs0bm3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: script failed but no error message
Hi, On Thursday 28 September 2006 13:00, Michael Tautschnig wrote: I'd also vote for a new class, may it be VIRTUAL or even 2 classes, like VSERVER and XENU; it's minor issues only, but there are a few things to be done on virtual instances and thus an extra class seems justified. /me too thinks this is a good idea, but not in the simple (!) examples. Let's make it examples/vserver and examples/xen. And yes, I'm in favor of two more examples as there are debian kernel flavors for both kinds of virtualisation. regards, Holger P.S.: and as noted on IRC, hwclock --utc --systohc 2/dev/null|| true is needed to make the error go away. But I also think, dedicated examples are better than surpressing errors. pgpqdm8pjBvbJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: first FAI 3 release is comming soon
Hi, On Friday 08 September 2006 16:53, Thomas Lange wrote: Should be display some incompatibility warning during package upgrade if the users are updating from FAI 2 to FAI 3? What are the incompatibilities you have in mind? But anyway, I dont think thats needed: anybody who is using fai seriously (that is not playing and testing), will not blindly upgrade the package and hope that everything just works. I believe locally modified fai packages are widely used and even those without use customized config spaces. regards, Holger pgpLlz2qPwBds.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI on compaq alpha?
Hi, On Thursday 07 September 2006 12:36, Thomas Lange wrote: I would like to ask you if FAI works on Compaq Alpha AXP platform based clusters? Is this normal Alpha architecture? IMO it should be possible. You only have to write a hook for the partitioning, but that's easy. FAI is very generic except for the boot loader and partitioning part. As Thomas said, you might need to do some little work (please share it), but it is possible and has been done. Unfortunatly I couldnt find the web page that used to be there, describing how. But by now it should have been outdated anyway. Also have a look at this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=330915 IMO This bug is wrong. It's not completly broken, you just have to write the hooks and compile an install kernel. Please also share the kernel config you used. regards, Holger pgpN6PwINbxjz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Trouble With Brand New NFSROOT
Hi, btw, please dont cc: me, I'm subscribed. Thanks. On Wednesday 06 September 2006 13:04, Henning Sprang wrote: He writes that he is using sarge on the Install client and server, so no Ubuntu is involved anywhere, just a similar problem occurs on Ubuntu. So why should he use Ubuntu fai-kernels? Oh, then i misinterpreted him. Toni, which kernel-package do you install on the installed system? Something from backports.org or from sid or ? Also, fai-kernels from sid is problematic on sarge / backports.org system, as that package is build with gcc4.1 while the backports kernel are build with gcc3.3. regards, Holger pgprhf05XsB92.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Trouble With Brand New NFSROOT
Hi, On Tuesday 05 September 2006 23:17, Toni Mueller wrote: Your Ubuntu message is here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=366699 So, IOW, I should re-build the fai-kernel and install that, right? Or could I use modprobe --force? You should use the fai-kernels package from ubuntu. regards, Holger pgpgCQkYX79Gj.pgp Description: PGP signature
discover(2) and discover1
Hi, a discussion about discover(2) and discover1 on the d-i irc channel (#debian-boot): * h01ger is again confused about discover: is discover1 still used by d-i or does d-i now use discover (which is discover2) bubulle_ h01ger: discover1-data is used by xorg h01ger and d-i uses? pere h01ger: d-i uses discover1 too, as far as I know. but it is moving to use the info in /lib/modules/ instead. pere h01ger: there are historical reasons for this. bubulle_ pere: not sure we still use discover1but, well, this is not really my part. What I can tell is discover1 stuff moves very slowlytoo slowly for being a critical thing in d-i h01ger pere, what for are you maintaining discover(2) then? h01ger =where is it used? pere we planned a long time ago to move to discover v2 from discover v1, but for that to happen we needed to update the discover-data v2 database. this did not happen until a few weeks ago, when I started doing it. pere so now the discover-data database is better than the discover1-data database, and it can be used to generate a discover1-data database * bubulle_ leaves as pere knows indeed much mor ethan me here..:) pere next, we planned to move d-i to discover v2, but this proved problematic, as the discover v2 binary was larger than the discover v1 binary, and the discover-data v2 database was larger than the discover1-data database. In short, it did not fit on the d-i floppy any more. pere since then, the curl support in discover v2 udeb has been dropped, so the binary size is smaller. pere the database size issue can be adressed by implementing support in discover v2 for compressed XML files. this is not yet done. pere in the short term, if d-i is still using discover v1, I believe it is better to drop the separate discover1-data package, and generate it using the discover-data v2 database instead. this way we get a small binary and an updated database using the same database source. h01ger ah. i'm asking because fai is still using discover1 - and discover-pkginstall sounds like a feature i want :) pere after all, d-i is going to drop discover1 any day now, unless it already happen, so it is not much use wasting time to shrink discover v2. * h01ger nods the short term plan pere there is a slight hickup for the short term plan, thought. the xml2lst script used to generate the v1 database from the v2 data is slightly broken, and do not generate a good kernel 2.4 database for discover v1. h01ger kernel 2.4 is not for interest for etch anymore h01ger well, it is. h01ger (2.4 is supposed to be supported but not shipped) pere this is not very important, as 2.4 isn't that vital any more, but the bug is really in the code handling various kernel versions, so the problem will be more and more important as we try to support a wider range of kernel versions. pere so if you are good with pythong and want to have a look, I would very much like some help. :) * h01ger takes a mental note: i need to hide from pere - not ask him stuff :) h01ger pere, thanx! pere h01ger: :P pere also, I need to coordinate the discover1-data removal with otavio, which has done most of the work on it lately. pere h01ger: I would love to hear your experiences with the discover-pkginstall script. It is as far as I know only tested by me so far. :) pere bubulle_: and if you have time to review the template used, and propose a better text, I am willing to make it translatable. :D pere h01ger: is fai using discover1 for kernel module loading, or for X video detection? If the latter, I strongly recommend discover v2. h01ger pere, for both h01ger pere, i'll forward this log to the fai-devel list, ok? pgpeFpRPkrnsb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fai and backports.org
Hi, On Monday 15 May 2006 21:49, P.S.S.Camp wrote: Oh hum replying to myself again ok this patch from base 2.10.1 for saner(tm) backport and other distro handling, the first line after the fai bit is the dsitro. PACKAGES install-t sarge-backports linux-image-686-smp can you please file a wishlist bug against fai and provide the patch there - here it will be lost. See http://bugs.debian.org for howto report bugs and don't hesitate to ask me if you need further assistance. regards thanks, Holger pgpA33HWNWWwV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Fai-commit] r3719 - trunk/bin
Hi, On Tuesday 01 August 2006 17:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified: trunk/bin/make-fai-nfsroot Log: install packages from $NFSROOT_PACKAGES at the same time as $packages are those two variables really necessary? regards, Holger pgpzScayuRRGA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: bootloader task
Hi, On Thursday 27 July 2006 11:00, Thomas Lange wrote: Why? I think even for softupdates, you sometimes like to reconfigure your bootloader. It's only important that the bootloader configure code is idempotent :-) But there should also be an option NOT to install/configure the bootloader... some systems dont have a bootloader (think vserver etc), others have it manually installaed. regards, Holger pgpQKprkfFlBB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: setup_harddisks doesn't find any disk
Hi, On Wednesday 26 July 2006 09:20, Michael Tautschnig wrote: Kernel version : 2.6.16-fai-kernels #1 smp Controllersata_nv 10de0055YesnVidia CorporationCK804 Serial ATA Controllersata_nv 10de005c-nVidia CorporationCK804 PCI Bridge I don't know whether the modules aren't loading or the controller isn't supported/the modules aren't provided by that kernel - Holger, could you help? This driver is included as a module on i386 in fai-kernels since version 1.11 and on amd64 since at least 1.10. regards, Holger pgpOe9vbTRG0m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: setup_harddisks doesn't find any disk
Hi, On Wednesday 26 July 2006 10:26, Holger Levsen wrote: Kernel version : 2.6.16-fai-kernels #1 smp This driver is included as a module on i386 in fai-kernels since version 1.11 and on amd64 since at least 1.10. ...and from the above quoted kernel version I cannot tell which version of fai-kernels was used... regards, Holger pgp7BLR4cONKd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Fwd: [FAI-Workshop]: Anmerkung zur Doku (FAI_ACTION)
Hi, I think this is still valid, should I provide a patch? :) regards, Holger -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [FAI-Workshop]: Anmerkung zur Doku (FAI_ACTION) Date: Saturday 09 April 2005 19:05 From: Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, damit FAI das tut, was es soll, muß ja bekanntlich FAI_ACTION=install gesetzt sein. Wenn ich einfach mit make-fai-bootfloppy baue, wird darauf FAI_ACTION nicht gesetzt. In make-fai-bootfloppy -h steht auch, das man das tun sollte. Im Guide steht es nur versteckt unter 3.6 Configuration of the BOOTP daemon und unter 3.8 Boot Messages. FAI_ACTION=sysinfo wird in 3.9 Collecting other system information erklärt. In 4.3 Defining classes, variables and loading kernel modules taucht es schließlich nicht versteckt auf. Ich würde mir hier noch den expliziten Satz wünschen If you don't define FAI_ACTION trough PXE/DHCP/bootp/Kernel commandline parameters, you need to define it throught classes/SOMECLASS.var. In 4.9 For the impatient user fehlt IMHO auch noch etwas über FAI_ACTION. Noch sende ich keinen Patch, aber sobald ich mal Zeit habe, mach ich das. (Hat allerdings etwas niedrige Prio.) Reviews würde ich aber sofort machen :-) Gruß, Holger --- pgp0EQFWRhLRA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fai bugs against policy - lets get this fixed NOW...
Hi, On Monday 10 July 2006 13:12, Henning Sprang wrote: Things for which the rules in Debian are set for etch should really be fixed as soon as possible - if there's a final decision in Debian for which FHS version to go, then the bug should be handled. As written in my mail which started this thread, Debian has changed the policy to mandate FHS 2.3. Thats the latest FHS version, so it's final. Also, I dont see how changing the default setting of a configuration variable effects any existing installation, you need to modify fai.conf to use it, and modified config files are not touched on upgrades. regards, Holger pgpWvC2N57N8A.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: forcedeth
Hi, On Friday 30 June 2006 08:22, Michael Tautschnig wrote: Trying to install some new AMD64 computers with NForce chipset, I noticed that the forcedeth driver is missing in the 2.6.16 installation kernel. Of course, I solved the problem by compiling my own kernel with CONFIG_FORCEDETH=y. Please file a bug with severity wishlist. It's included in fai-kernels since the previous version of fai-kernels, 1.10.2, which was uploaded to unstable on January 20th and migrated to testing on the 4th of february. regards, Holger pgpR7KVrmQnUc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: forcedeth
Hi, On Saturday 08 July 2006 15:22, Per Foreby wrote: Trying to install some new AMD64 computers with NForce chipset, I I'm referring to the version in the fai repository: besides that I don't have control over what ends up there... $ dpkg -s fai-kernels|grep -i version Version: 1.10.3 $ zgrep FORCEDETH /usr/share/doc/fai-kernels/config-2.6.16.gz # CONFIG_FORCEDETH is not set I now guess that you're working with debian for i386 and not amd64, right? Because in the amd64 config it is included, in the i386 config it's not. Will fix this in 1.11... regards, Holger P.S.: this will be really solved when we use standard debian kernels, which is my aim to achieve at the upcoming fai developer workshop... pgpWFSFjCgbmm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fai-chboot -c annoyance?
Hi, On Wednesday 28 June 2006 11:39, Andreas Sindermann wrote: So I suggest to remove the checking of .disable files because one wants to create a new profile anyway. It might be even a better idea to remove the old .disable file automatically. why not a -f|--force switch ? regards, Holger pgp7rtTO0XJzP.pgp Description: PGP signature
fai-kernels with linux 2.4.x
Hi, etch will not be released with a 2.4 based kernel, so I am wondering if I should remove 2.4 from fai-kernels *now*. Any objections? Who is still using 2.4 for _new_ installs? regards, Holger pgpefk3l2mxsT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt.conf.d/*
Hi, On Thursday 15 June 2006 12:47, Michael Tautschnig wrote: I'm not sure if this apt.conf will be installed to the new system. This may be a bug if it's done. I think it is (or at least it was like this in 2.8.4 IIRC). So we should file a bug What is so wrong about using this file for softupdates as well? After all, you ought to have the relevant config files in FAI anyway!? From Rudys first mail in this thread: But when you then manually remove a package it purges, and this is not the default way of doing things... You (or at least the majority of debian users) don't expect a package to be purged when you say remove. regards, Holger pgptIzSBr4j6X.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [PATCH 12/12] add a quick HOWTO for getting this branch working
Hi Sam, On Monday 01 May 2006 05:47, Sam Vilain wrote: +Once you have this, you need to build yourself a vserver that will +hold the FAI configuration. +vserver faiprof build -m debootstrap --interface dummy0:192.168.1.2/24 \ + --flags nproc ... +Then you can build children with: +vserver mychild build -m fai --interface dummy0:192.168.1.42/24 \ + --flags nproc -- -f faiprof ... Thanks for publishing your patches, could you also publish a complete branch somewhere? Maybe I missed where you stated against which fai version those patches should be applied. Also a changelog would be nice, atm you need to read all patches to see what they're doing... Also, which is much more difficult to handle, some of your patches apply against fai, others against vserver :-( One specific question: whats the difference between a vserver and childen ? Both are vserver-vms, but the latter is just copied ? (If thats the case, I think your approach is too limited.) I dont think your approach of modifying vserver-build is necessary, I just build my vservers with vserver-build -m debootstrap and then exec into the vserver and run fai softupdate. regards, Holger pgpf7Wf7vhFBR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: aptitude warning during installation
Hi, On Wednesday 26 April 2006 01:01, kris wrote: My fai install is failing due to aptitude refusing to install packages from an untrusted source i.e. my mirror. Does anybody have a pointer and/or solution for this. http://faiwiki.debian.net/index.php/Using_gpg-authenticated_debian-archives See the software log attached in general it's also pretty useful if you indicate which version of fai you're using and what you're trying to install... :) regards, Holger pgpCLGgRc90VZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: aptitude warning during installation
Hi, On Wednesday 26 April 2006 08:50, Thomas Lange wrote: My fai install is failing due to aptitude refusing to install packages from an untrusted source i.e. my mirror. Which FAI version are you using? FAI 2.10.1 does not have these problems any more. As happy as I am that fai _supports_ a workaround, I dont think circumventing security should be the default. http://bugs.debian.org/363701 regards, Holger pgpHOPWKiGwXv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sqashing my own bugs
Hi Cedric, On Tuesday 28 March 2006 13:26, Cedric BRINER wrote: do you advise me to install the latest fai version (2.8.4 sarge/debian) All fai versions from 2.8.4 to 2.10 are targeted at sarge. There are some changes, so you should read the changelogs. Also the simple examples have been fixed, so if you have based your fai_configdir on them, you should update your configdir manually as well. regards, Holger pgpyP3yRhaxLM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Grub and XFS Problem during installation with FAI
Hi, On Sunday 26 March 2006 14:57, Ralf Matulat wrote: But now I am discovering some problems with xfs durinf installation: - I am using FAI 2.8.4sarge1 Are you using the fai-kernels from sarge or sid ? Can you confirm that http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=286855 (fai-kernels: XFS is broken with the 2.6 kernel) is still not fixed or that it is fixed ? thanks, Holger pgpV85AqbLl4E.pgp Description: PGP signature
basic fai_configdir as conffiles (was Re: fai 2.8.4 - 2.9.1 update)
Yo, On Thursday 23 March 2006 10:29, Adrian von Bidder wrote: I'm just updating from fai 2.8.4 to 2.9.1. Is there documentation as to what I need to change in my existing configuration space? Not really, diff is your only friend here :( As this also happens frequently, with almost every second update, I've been proposing for long to define a basic configdir as debian conffiles, so that those get upgraded as well (and the bugs there get fixed automatically). This would require some small changes to the simple examples, but not that many. regards, Holger pgpAnrsIKDXoa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Minor problem with task_chboot
Hi,
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 09:47, Andreas Jobs wrote:
Problem:
task_chboot does not disable the correct pxe configuration.
Description:
If you have more than one NIC, your hostname may not map to the adress
used during install. In my case (installing some Compaq Blade Servers)
the Installation uses eth0 but the production interface is eth2. So,
hostname resolves to the address bind to eth2. During task_chboot fai
does fai_chboot -r $hostname and quits with a file not found message.
Solution:
Use the address that was used during installation. My quick-and-dirty
patch currently is:
--- subroutines-linux.orig 2006-01-12 17:49:49.0 +0100
+++ subroutines-linux 2006-03-10 09:41:23.0 +0100
@@ -185,7 +185,8 @@
local frsh
local doexit=0
-local hostname=$(hostname)
+local hostname=$(cat $LOGDIR/boot.log | grep IPADDR | cut -d\' -f2)
+[ -z $hostname ] hostname=$(hostname)
frsh=$FAI_REMOTESH -l $LOGUSER ${SERVER}
Maybe there is a better (cleaner) solution.
Thomas, can you please comment on this problem + solution ?
I'd like to file a bug in BTS. Should I file it to fai or
fai-client?
fai-client as thats where the file with the bug comes from. But then, I dont
think this matters, as both come from the same source package, which is what
matters for the BTS.
regards,
Holger
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please document the commandline-parameter HOST=demohost
package: fai severity: wishlist version: 2.10 Hi, On Sunday 26 February 2006 14:38, Andreas Schockenhoff wrote: On Sunday 26 February 2006 11:26, Darryl Luff wrote: Hi all. I'm new to FAI. I've seen a few requests in the archives about setting the hostname on the built machine using other than the DHCP config, but none really did what I need to do. Try: append HOST=demohost Woot! This question has popped up so many times, but I've never seen that answer. We should definitly document this in the fai guide! regards, Holger pgpzskN9B71iM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI Kubuntu
Hi, On Tuesday 21 February 2006 17:16, Juraj Holtak - ProAut s.r.o. wrote: I`m responsible for a Call-Centre in Vienna using Linux on their machines. We installed Debian Sarge and are happy with FAI, less with package versions (KDE,Evolution) in Sarge. I just had the idea of using FAI to install Kubuntu because Sarge gets in its ages and testing/unstable isn`t what I want to run on corporate desktop. Has anybody tried this? I appreciate every feedback. why dont you go for sarge with kde and evolution backports for sarge from www.backports.org ? KDE 3.5 for sarge is available there, I dunno about the exact evolution version, but I would think it should also be recent. That way you would only need to do minimal changes to your current fai installation... regards, Holger pgpEgoU1wKcWT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: semi-automatic rebuild of fai-cd on i386 and amd64
Hi, On Friday 10 February 2006 16:24, you wrote: The last time I checked, etch make-fai-nfsroot would not work on amd64. Still waiting for libapt-*-perl. Yeah, etch and sid break regulary. That's a feature/design not a bug :) I've got a 4-core opteron here, with lots of RAM. Nice. I cannot share it before mid-next week though (and it's in private address space, and it will be reconfigured several times) ... but after that, probably something can be arranged. Will this be a nightly task? No. Rebuilds are most interesting, when something has changed in the (fai-) kernels or in fai(s configdir). In average I expect weekly builds or less. What do you mean by reconfigured ? I would like to set it up in a stable chroot, vserver or something like that. (A virtual environment which is dedicated to that task. It would roughly need 5gb or so of harddrive space and access to a mirror or fast proxy.) BTW, what about building ISOs for other archs as well? fai-cd is i386 and amd64 only atm. By closing #339098 Thomas has decided this is a feature as well. But I think Thomas would be happy about patches so that fai-cd builds bootable cds on powerpc, alpha and whatnot. Speaking of this I dont understand why its required (in the amd64-howto) to copy the nfsroot.tgz to an i386 machine to execute fai-cd there. Thomas ? regards, Holger pgpbUhR9M0XBy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Install nodes with re-configured kernel image
Hi Brian, On Wednesday 18 January 2006 14:29, Brian Showalter wrote: You can see the updated tutorial on the FAI wiki at http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/User:BrianShowalter/Using_ customized_kernels_with_FAI. I've read your tutorial and added some questions to http://faiwiki.debian.net/index.php/User_talk:BrianShowalter/Using_customized_kernels_with_FAI which I will repeat here (oh, and something I dont have written there: thanks for your efforts in documenting this! (even if I have complains :)) I dont understand: 1. why you dont file bugs against the fai-kernels package 2. why you propose to rebuild a kernel|linux-image package and then use this as a fai-kernels package instead of rebuilding the fai-kernel package. How to do this is described in /usr/share/doc/fai-kernels/README The same goes for the production kernel. You should rather suggest to file bugs against the default debian kernels so that in future those kernels will work out of the box. Your tutorial is still (somewhat) useful, but the way it's written now, it gets people on a wrong track. regards, Holger pgpURqfH4UYXj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Install nodes with re-configured kernel image
Hi, On Monday 16 January 2006 10:31, Gavin Tran wrote: The modilfied 2.6.8 kernel seems not recognize my SATA drive. This happened for only the modified 2.6.8 kernel. The new fresh kernel installed from apt-get is ok. But that has some trouble with drivers. what version has the new fresh kernel installed from apt-get ? also 2.6.8 or is it newer ? 2.6.8 has problems with certain SATA controllers... regards, Holger P.S.: I've cc:ed you as I don't know if you're subscribed. Sorry if you are please don't cc: me :) pgpKe1KXYsuyK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: make-fai-nfsroot exits with error
Hi, On Thursday 29 December 2005 10:57, Thomas Lange wrote: IMO the package fai-nfsroot is not installed into the nfsroot. Add this package to make-fai-nfsroot.conf. I just checked, it's not there in the default make-fai-nfsroot.conf This is a important bug, isn't it ? If it's not fixed within 24h in svn I will file it in the BTS, ok ? regards, Holger pgpG1STuWpMVV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: make-fai-nfsroot exits with error
Hi, On Tuesday 10 January 2006 12:45, Eugen Paiuc wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ nano /mnt/etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot.conf # FAI needs these packages that are installed into the nfsroot packages=fai-nfsroot module-init-tools Ahh. make-fai-nfsroot.conf defines _two_ variables, which determine which packages should be installed in the nfsroot: # your extra packages which will be installed into the nfsroot, space separated NFSROOT_PACKAGES=cfengine expect kudzu # FAI needs these packages that are installed into the nfsroot packages=fai-nfsroot module-init-tools dhcp3-client ssh file rdate hwinfo portmap bootpc rsync wget rsh-client less dump reiserfsprogs usbutils psmisc pciutils hdparm smartmontools parted mdadm lvm2 dnsutils ntpdate dosfstools cvs jove xfsprogs xfsdump sysutils dialog discover mdetect libnet-perl netcat libapt-pkg-perl So I guess I will file a wishlist-bug to join those two variables as this is less errorprone. regards, Holger pgpKegyvzav0z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI Graphical User Interface
Hi, On Saturday 10 December 2005 22:58, Henning Sprang wrote: AFAIK the message is about this program, which is not exclusively made for FAI, but can be used to manage FAI, but I didn't try it yet: https://gosa.gonicus.de/ http://oss.gonicus.de/gosa/index.php/Image:Bigmap.jpg doesnt show FAI at all. (This is a link from http://oss.gonicus.de/gosa/index.php/Manual ) Is gosa really used as a FAI GUI ? regards, Holger pgpZtgaDbQjY0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: usertags
Hi, On Thursday 01 December 2005 22:31, Henning Sprang wrote: should this be in the wiki? Or (how) is this easily accessible through the BTS interface? It is in in the wiki allready :-) Another logical place where in the PTS: packages.qa.debian.org/fai can be customized, incl. html-code. regards, Holger pgpozFZtlWwqx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Fai-commit] r3113 - trunk/bin
Hi, On Monday 28 November 2005 01:08, you wrote: Author: lange Date: 2005-11-28 00:08:39 + (Mon, 28 Nov 2005) New Revision: 3113 Modified: trunk/bin/make-fai-bootfloppy Log: create more space on boot floppy (closes: #294593) Modified: trunk/bin/make-fai-bootfloppy -version=Version 2.6, 23-november-2005 +version=Version 2.6.1, 27-november-2005 -rmdir $mountpoint/lost+found I dont see how this is related to #294593 ?! (Which is about changing the defaut floppy size to 2.88MB... which is good for cdroms which - I guess - are used by 95% of the floppy users...) regrads, Holger pgpWPhKJwdRNS.pgp Description: PGP signature
fai-kernels 1.10 available (with 2.4.27+2.6.14, for i386, amd64 and powerpc)
Hi, I'm happy to announce that fai-kernels 1.10 (with linux-kernel 2.6.14) has made it into debian/unstable. The packages for i386 and amd64 are available from the usual places, I'm currently investigating why the powerpc build has not been scheduled. If you need the powerpc package now, don't hesitate to ping me and I'll send it to you. Please test those packages and report feedback - thanks. regards, Holger pgpIwAt7EQRGu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#322157: removing backtick feature
Hi, On Wednesday 23 November 2005 09:19, Thomas Lange wrote: I plan to remove the feature of backtick evaluation. IMO it not usefull any more. Any comments? Otherwise I will close this bug. why do you want to remove that feature ? I have looked at the bug report, but I dont understand... regards, Holger pgpOMlc67NItS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI Guide translations
Hi, On Sunday 22 May 2005 23:49, Michael Tautschnig wrote: Currently only french and romanian translations of the guide exist. These translations are neither integrated in the FAI source code nor packaged. There is also no common (or wide known) toolchain to update / create the translations (hints certainly welcome!). I just search the debian archives and found po4a and po-debiandoc - I don't know how useful they are in our situation, but they might be a quite good starting point!? po4a seems to be pretty straightforward to use, see http://po4a.alioth.debian.org/en/po4a.7.html#How_to_use_po4a_ I first also thought the ascii art there looks complicated, but read HOWTO begin a new translation?, HOWTO change the translation back to a documentation file?, HOWTO update a po4a translation? and HOWTO convert a pre-existing translation to po4a? for yourself (takes less then 5 minutes) and you will see this seems to be real easy and maintainable. I wanted to try it, but for the existing french and romanian translations there is no source code available! :-((( Daniel (or Thomas ? its on uni-koeln.de..), Eugen, could you please mail me your source ?! (You have to - read the GPL :) thanks, Holger pgpQg1eil4Sf6.pgp Description: PGP signature
usertags
Hi, Thomas, which user have you used for usertags ? AFAIUI, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=fai;[EMAIL PROTECTED] should work, but it doesnt. Does anybody know a way howto subscribe to usertags ? I would like to be informed via mail, when such tags are set... Is it possible ? regards, Holger pgps5As3Ki6gD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAI svn howto update, testing doc, helper scripts
Hi Henning, On Friday 21 October 2005 12:01, you wrote: Along with that, I added some hints on how to do FAI testing, better, to test for what when doing it, and I checked in the helper scripts I created which made fai-cd developing finally very easy for me. Hints in the wiki. Sure, it still takes some time to do fai-cd tests, but with some scripts you don't need lots of manual interaction anymore. I've seen this page and also the dedicated testing page at http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Testing Any idea how to merge them ? regards, Holger pgpYMAxE8fWjd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: softupdate bug
Hi, On Saturday 29 October 2005 10:44, Michael Tautschnig wrote: There seems to be a bug in the softupdate task (more specifically in the savelog task during a softupdate) in that the file $diskvar, which is not created during a softupdate, is attempted to be copied to $target/var/log/fai which results in an error. Is this the same as http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=312296 ? Yes, I think so. If no one opposes, I will merge them. regards, Holger pgp7R46p6sqYF.pgp Description: PGP signature
format of patches... Re: patch for #334333
Hi,
On Wednesday 19 October 2005 00:01, Thomas Lange wrote:
Sorry, my last patch did not work. The Perl code is very difficult to
understand. This patch works, so now grub is also added when calling
fai-mirror.
pittermaennche[~] diff fai-2.8.4/scripts/install_packages .
315a316,317
@complete = grep {!/-$/} @complete if $opt_d; # ignore packages ending
with - when using -d
Please verify the patch.
I didnt bother to do so, because
a.) it was not attached as a file
b.) was not made using diff -Nur
Please attach patches as files and use the -Nur output :-)
Thanks,
Holger
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Re: [Fai-commit] r2951 - trunk/debian
Hi, On Tuesday 18 October 2005 01:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: lange Date: 2005-10-17 23:19:13 + (Mon, 17 Oct 2005) New Revision: 2951 Modified: trunk/debian/control Log: add conflicts to old package fai Why did you add the conflict: to all packages ? Wouldnt a conflict with...hmmm - why did you add conflicts at all ? regards, Holger pgpKjmzH0y4Gy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: more troubles with fai-cd
Hi, On Monday 17 October 2005 00:16, you wrote: What about merging the bug reports first and then generating only a single bugfix? Yes, please do so. (But this is somethink different though obviously related. Oh, I just realized that I answered to a theoretical question of Henning: despite there are two bugs, there is only one with code :-) Merged bugs in the debian BTS keep their numbers, so to answer Hennings question again: just use one branch for fixing those bugs. Indicate in the bug-report which branch you use. I'm not sure if #320024 and #329547 should be merged now: a fix for the first one will definitly accepted for a point update of sarge, while a fix for the latter might not. Though I think it also might get accepted, so I would say: try to fix #329547, as this will also fix 320024 :) regards, Holger pgpa0cDNOsSpc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: disscussion about new format of disk_config files
Hi, On Wednesday 05 October 2005 16:34, Henning Sprang wrote: On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 16:25 +0200, Michal Svamberg wrote: Hi, actual disk_config not supported this features: - RAID (mdadm) - LVM (lvm2) - flat disks (disks withou partitions) - change geometry of disk - xen support (there exists only partitions, whole (flat) disk not) - other problems? lazyformat doesn't work reliably, and preserve can only handle disks that are already formatted. We (Henning, Thomas and me) have just discussed this at a automatic installation workshop... preserve and preserve_in_any_case should be expressed of the end of the partition-line (like lazyconfig) and not at the partition-size position as its done currently. Also some way of setting up crypted partitions should be possible. The design of the disc_config file format should be save in the fai-wiki as it less likely to get lost there ;-) regards, Holger (fever keeps me from writing a better mail / just create the wiki page. And I dont think the discussion is over yet :-) pgpSnW85yi16U.pgp Description: PGP signature
support and document a FAI-Installation into a local chroot
package: fai version: 2.8.4 severity: wishlist Hi, On Thursday 11 August 2005 18:58, Henning Glawe wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 11:39:33AM +0200, Christopher Huhn wrote: I'd like to use FAI to install debian systems into local chroots on the FAI server (i.e. for Xen/UML virtualization). While quite familiar with FAI by now, I did not investigate much in this subject yet. Has anybody on the list attempted something like that yet? What would be the best approach then? Can it be done by calling /usr/sbin/fai at all? There are two options you have here: I. use XEN to install the chroot 1) install and configure XEN on the host 2) do a 'normal' fai installation using XEN+nfsroot II. a real chroot install = chroot-installs should work in principle, but are not carefully checked. we chose to disable them for the moment. If you are really adventurous and want to try something risky: 0) do a backup of all your data on the machine chosen to host the chroots (or choose a machine where data-loss doesn't matter) 1) edit /usr/share/fai/subroutines, comment out the return in the safety check in line 253 2) set FAI_ROOT in /etc/fai/fai.conf to the intended destination directory 3) disable task_partition under all circumstances (otherwise it will destroy your running system) 4) pray it will work= 5) pray it will work 6) run '/usr/sbin/fai install' NOTE: I have succeeded in this once in the last year with my fai fork pfai, which has been merged into fai now, but as much development has happened in fai during that time, I don't know if this will work now. thanks Henning! :-) Please don't forget to include XEN in the documentaion. It's easy and fancy! regards, Holger pgpstOgK30Kes.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAIwiki - proposal for an other License but Creative Commons - was: Re: FAIwiki Copyrights
Hi, thanks for adopting the GPL for the wiki! On Monday 08 August 2005 16:55, Henning Sprang wrote: But in the end, the copyright page is a wiki page, you can change it yourself (which leads to the question if these copyright remarks have any value at all in the wiki). But this page is (like all the others) managed by a version control system, so we can revert those changes ?! (If not all involved people agree on the change...) As for the crossposting: I think cross posting is confusing as it seems not to be sure that replies reach us here. (proof: look at the list archive of debian legal, there are some more replies to our thread, and they didn't make it here... http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00070.html confusion diminished :-) regards, Holger pgp8dvACgiLIY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAIwiki - proposal for an other License but Creative Commons - was: Re: FAIwiki Copyrights
Hi, On Saturday 06 August 2005 11:25, Henning Sprang wrote: Actually, when I remember correctly the configuration of linux-fai (which is not in my responsibility), _this_ mail really got stored in /dev/null at uni-koeln.de somewhere, without anybody being noticed, Nope. Mail from not subscribed addresses must be approved by Thomas Lange. regards, Holger pgpydSNgr1HWg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAIwiki Copyrights
Hi debian-legal, hi fai :-) On Friday 05 August 2005 17:29, Geert Stappers wrote: | Under the following conditions: | by | Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the | author or licensor. Sounds reasonable to me. unfortunatly not be me: i hereby request you to praise my name three times in capital letters _and_ once written backward if you use it to deploy software for churches. :-) So the question for a good licence for a wiki for a software which is released under the GPL is still open... regards, Holger pgprSKerA6kro.pgp Description: PGP signature
