Re: FAI for other distributions

2007-06-27 Thread Thomas Lange
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:52:14 +0200, Jens Strohschnitter <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> said:

> my experience with FAI and SuSE were so awfull, so that we only use
> FAI with Debian :-(
Because of Suse itself or the combination FAI and Suse? What ist not
working?

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regards Thomas


Re: FAI for other distributions

2007-07-02 Thread Henning Sprang
Hi Jens,

Jens Strohschnitter wrote:

> [...] 
> my experience with FAI and SuSE were so awfull, so that we only use
> FAI with Debian :-(

I'd also be interested to know and understand what exactly you tried,
and how it went wrong.

There are some people interested in making this work nice, so reporting
problems would help us a lot.

Henning


Re: FAI for other distributions

2007-07-12 Thread Henning Sprang
Ingo Wichmann wrote:
> [...]
>> Has somebody experience in this direction using FAI?
> 
> I use it at linuxhotel to install training notebooks: opensuse, sles,
> fedora, centos, debian, ubuntu

And windows by integrating Unattended (I still have to test the patches
you sent me)...

And all the others you install via images, or really with "normal"
classes, package lists, and stuff?

I wonder, because until now, I only saw Holger's patches for
install_packages to get softupdate in Fedora/Redhat working.
They were not working for dirinstall, which I have a patch for, it's in
Subversion.

But still network install is not "just working", but needs a workaround:
I had to manually install some missing packages in the nfsroot to get it
going, and they might not be there because install_packages is still not
100% right.

Thomas' new changes to install_packages will probably fix these, too.

@Henning: this all sounds a bit complicated, but in fact we are only
some hours of work away to get all this right and fully integrated in
the mainline FAI.
When these initial issues(which are generic to installing everything
other than dpkg-based distributions) are fixed, adding new distributions
will be only a matter of adding one new line to install_packages to get
the right call for the right package manager, and knowing how to make
the minimal base image to place into the configspace in the basefiles
directory.

Henning





Re: FAI for other distributions

2007-07-13 Thread Ingo Wichmann
Henning Sprang schrieb:

>>> Has somebody experience in this direction using FAI?
>> I use it at linuxhotel to install training notebooks: opensuse, sles,
>> fedora, centos, debian, ubuntu
> 
> And windows by integrating Unattended (I still have to test the patches
> you sent me)...

Though Windows XP support was just a proof of concept ... I don't use it.

> And all the others you install via images, or really with "normal"
> classes, package lists, and stuff?

I did everything as fai-like as possible, but fai from debian-sarge missed
some features:
* For RPM based distros I skip "debconf", "prepareapt" and "instsoft"; and
  replace them with my own hooks.
* I skip "disk_config" and "mountdisks"; and replace it with my own hooks to
  be able to use any filesystem and to get lvm support

I don't have package lists for "instsoft", but that's more or less a
question of turning

yum install bla blub foo bar

into

xargs yum install < package_config/SLES10

When upgrading to fai from debian-etch I want to give "setup_harddisks_2" by
Michael Tautschnig a try ...

> I wonder, because until now, I only saw Holger's patches for
> install_packages to get softupdate in Fedora/Redhat working.
> They were not working for dirinstall, which I have a patch for, it's in
> Subversion.

I dont't use softupdate with RPM-based distros.

Ingo




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Re: FAI for other distributions

2007-07-13 Thread Ingo Wichmann
Jens Strohschnitter schrieb:
>>> we are looking for an automatical installation system, which is able to
>>> install different distributions (Gentoo, Suse, CentOs, ...).
>>>  
>>> Has somebody experience in this direction using FAI?
>> I use it at linuxhotel to install training notebooks: opensuse, sles,
>> fedora, centos, debian, ubuntu

> do you use SuSE SLES working with LVM (logical-volumes) ? We need to
> install SuSE SLES10 via FAI, but using LVM with reiserfs as partitions.
> Do you have some docs about your autoinstallation with FAI/SuSE ?

No, I don't have docs ;-)

I did everything as fai-like as possible, but fai from debian-sarge missed
some features:
* For RPM based distros I skip "debconf", "prepareapt" and "instsoft"; and
  replace them with my own hooks.
* I skip "disk_config" and "mountdisks"; and replace it with my own hooks to
  be able to use any filesystem and to get lvm support

I can send you these scripts, but I guess it would be helpful if I'd explain
them too ... and they are for the debian-sarge version of fai. Maybe you
should pay a meeting for Henning, you and me. Then Henning can integrate the
missing pieces in fai and you learn how to use them ;-)

Ingo



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