Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015

2014-11-26 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto


On 11/25/2014 10:54 AM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
 On 2014-11-24T16:16:05, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do
 not wear the fedora ;-)
 That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;)
 
 I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore
 the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of
 tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that.
 That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class
 participants and is a PITA for everyone.
 I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho.
 
 I personally disagree. In my experience, one either does a face-to-face
 meeting, or a virtual one that puts everyone on the same footing.
 Mixing both works really badly unless the team already knows each
 other.
 
 I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in
 Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in
 Europe etc.
 Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia..
 
 Yeah, but you're already bringing him for your personal conference.
 That's a bit different. ;-)
 
 OK, let's switch tracks a bit. What *topics* do we actually have? Can we
 fill two days? Where would we want to collect them?

I´d say either a google doc or any random etherpad/wiki instance will do
just fine.

As for the topics:
- corosync qdevice and plugins (network, disk, integration with sdb?,
  others?)
- corosync RRP / libknet integration/replacement
- fence autodetection/autoconfiguration

For the user facing topics (that is if there are enough participants and
I only got 1 user confirmation so far):

- demos, cluster 101, tutorials
- get feedback
- get feedback
- get more feedback

Fabio
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Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015

2014-11-25 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2014-11-24T16:16:05, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote:

  Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do
  not wear the fedora ;-)
 That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;)

  I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore
  the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of
  tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that.
  That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class
  participants and is a PITA for everyone.
 I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho.

I personally disagree. In my experience, one either does a face-to-face
meeting, or a virtual one that puts everyone on the same footing.
Mixing both works really badly unless the team already knows each
other.

  I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in
  Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in
  Europe etc.
 Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia..

Yeah, but you're already bringing him for your personal conference.
That's a bit different. ;-)

OK, let's switch tracks a bit. What *topics* do we actually have? Can we
fill two days? Where would we want to collect them?


Regards,
Lars

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SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 
(AG Nürnberg)
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Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015

2014-11-24 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2014-09-08T12:30:23, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote:

Folks, Fabio,

thanks for organizing this and getting the ball rolling. And again sorry
for being late to said game; I was busy elsewhere.

However, it seems that the idea for such a HA Summit in Brno/Feb 2015
hasn't exactly fallen on fertile grounds, even with the suggested
user/client day. (Or if there was a lot of feedback, it wasn't
public.)

I wonder why that is, and if/how we can make this more attractive?

Frankly, as might have been obvious ;-), for me the venue is an issue.
It's not easy to reach, and I'm theoretically fairly close in Germany
already.

I wonder if we could increase participation with a virtual meeting (on
either those dates or another), similar to what the Ceph Developer
Summit does?

Those appear really productive and make it possible for a wide range of
interested parties from all over the world to attend, regardless of
travel times, or even just attend select sessions (that would otherwise
make it hard to justify travel expenses  time off).


Alternatively, would a relocation to a more connected venue help, such
as Vienna xor Prague?


I'd love to get some more feedback from the community.

As Fabio put it, yes, I *can* suck it up and go to Brno if that's where
everyone goes to play ;-), but I'd also prefer to have a broader
participation.



Regards,
Lars

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Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015

2014-11-24 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2014-11-24T15:54:33, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote:

 dates and location were chosen to piggy-back with devconf.cz and allow
 people to travel for more than just HA Summit.

Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do
not wear the fedora ;-)

 I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore
 the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of
 tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that.

That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class
participants and is a PITA for everyone.

I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in
Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in
Europe etc.


Regards,
Lars

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Architect Storage/HA
SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 
(AG Nürnberg)
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Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015

2014-11-24 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto


On 11/24/2014 4:12 PM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
 On 2014-11-24T15:54:33, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 dates and location were chosen to piggy-back with devconf.cz and allow
 people to travel for more than just HA Summit.
 
 Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do
 not wear the fedora ;-)

That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;)

 
 I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore
 the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of
 tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that.
 
 That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class
 participants and is a PITA for everyone.

I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho.

 
 I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in
 Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in
 Europe etc.
 

Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia..

Fabio
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Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015

2014-11-01 Thread Alan Robertson
 All the cool kids will be there.

 You want to be a cool kid, right?

 :p
I'm a cool kid where ever I go ;-)

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Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015

2014-10-31 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
just a kind reminder.

On 9/8/2014 12:30 PM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote:
 All,
 
 it's been almost 6 years since we had a face to face meeting for all
 developers and vendors involved in Linux HA.
 
 I'd like to try and organize a new event and piggy-back with DevConf in
 Brno [1].
 
 DevConf will start Friday the 6th of Feb 2015 in Red Hat Brno offices.
 
 My suggestion would be to have a 2 days dedicated HA summit the 4th and
 the 5th of February.
 
 The goal for this meeting is to, beside to get to know each other and
 all social aspect of those events, tune the directions of the various HA
 projects and explore common areas of improvements.
 
 I am also very open to the idea of extending to 3 days, 1 one dedicated
 to customers/users and 2 dedicated to developers, by starting the 3rd.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Fabio
 
 PS Please hit reply all or include me in CC just to make sure I'll see
 an answer :)
 
 [1] http://devconf.cz/

Could you please let me know by end of Nov if you are interested or not?

I have heard only from few people so far.

Cheers
Fabio
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Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015

2014-10-31 Thread Digimer

All the cool kids will be there.

You want to be a cool kid, right?

:p

On 01/11/14 01:06 AM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote:

just a kind reminder.

On 9/8/2014 12:30 PM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote:

All,

it's been almost 6 years since we had a face to face meeting for all
developers and vendors involved in Linux HA.

I'd like to try and organize a new event and piggy-back with DevConf in
Brno [1].

DevConf will start Friday the 6th of Feb 2015 in Red Hat Brno offices.

My suggestion would be to have a 2 days dedicated HA summit the 4th and
the 5th of February.

The goal for this meeting is to, beside to get to know each other and
all social aspect of those events, tune the directions of the various HA
projects and explore common areas of improvements.

I am also very open to the idea of extending to 3 days, 1 one dedicated
to customers/users and 2 dedicated to developers, by starting the 3rd.

Thoughts?

Fabio

PS Please hit reply all or include me in CC just to make sure I'll see
an answer :)

[1] http://devconf.cz/


Could you please let me know by end of Nov if you are interested or not?

I have heard only from few people so far.

Cheers
Fabio
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