Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 11/25/2014 10:54 AM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: On 2014-11-24T16:16:05, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do not wear the fedora ;-) That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;) I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class participants and is a PITA for everyone. I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho. I personally disagree. In my experience, one either does a face-to-face meeting, or a virtual one that puts everyone on the same footing. Mixing both works really badly unless the team already knows each other. I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in Europe etc. Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia.. Yeah, but you're already bringing him for your personal conference. That's a bit different. ;-) OK, let's switch tracks a bit. What *topics* do we actually have? Can we fill two days? Where would we want to collect them? I´d say either a google doc or any random etherpad/wiki instance will do just fine. As for the topics: - corosync qdevice and plugins (network, disk, integration with sdb?, others?) - corosync RRP / libknet integration/replacement - fence autodetection/autoconfiguration For the user facing topics (that is if there are enough participants and I only got 1 user confirmation so far): - demos, cluster 101, tutorials - get feedback - get feedback - get more feedback Fabio ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems
Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 2014-11-24T16:16:05, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do not wear the fedora ;-) That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;) I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class participants and is a PITA for everyone. I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho. I personally disagree. In my experience, one either does a face-to-face meeting, or a virtual one that puts everyone on the same footing. Mixing both works really badly unless the team already knows each other. I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in Europe etc. Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia.. Yeah, but you're already bringing him for your personal conference. That's a bit different. ;-) OK, let's switch tracks a bit. What *topics* do we actually have? Can we fill two days? Where would we want to collect them? Regards, Lars -- Architect Storage/HA SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. -- Oscar Wilde ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems
Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 2014-09-08T12:30:23, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: Folks, Fabio, thanks for organizing this and getting the ball rolling. And again sorry for being late to said game; I was busy elsewhere. However, it seems that the idea for such a HA Summit in Brno/Feb 2015 hasn't exactly fallen on fertile grounds, even with the suggested user/client day. (Or if there was a lot of feedback, it wasn't public.) I wonder why that is, and if/how we can make this more attractive? Frankly, as might have been obvious ;-), for me the venue is an issue. It's not easy to reach, and I'm theoretically fairly close in Germany already. I wonder if we could increase participation with a virtual meeting (on either those dates or another), similar to what the Ceph Developer Summit does? Those appear really productive and make it possible for a wide range of interested parties from all over the world to attend, regardless of travel times, or even just attend select sessions (that would otherwise make it hard to justify travel expenses time off). Alternatively, would a relocation to a more connected venue help, such as Vienna xor Prague? I'd love to get some more feedback from the community. As Fabio put it, yes, I *can* suck it up and go to Brno if that's where everyone goes to play ;-), but I'd also prefer to have a broader participation. Regards, Lars -- Architect Storage/HA SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. -- Oscar Wilde ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems
Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 2014-11-24T15:54:33, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: dates and location were chosen to piggy-back with devconf.cz and allow people to travel for more than just HA Summit. Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do not wear the fedora ;-) I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class participants and is a PITA for everyone. I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in Europe etc. Regards, Lars -- Architect Storage/HA SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. -- Oscar Wilde ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems
Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 11/24/2014 4:12 PM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: On 2014-11-24T15:54:33, Fabio M. Di Nitto fdini...@redhat.com wrote: dates and location were chosen to piggy-back with devconf.cz and allow people to travel for more than just HA Summit. Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do not wear the fedora ;-) That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;) I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class participants and is a PITA for everyone. I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho. I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in Europe etc. Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia.. Fabio ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems
Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
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Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
just a kind reminder. On 9/8/2014 12:30 PM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote: All, it's been almost 6 years since we had a face to face meeting for all developers and vendors involved in Linux HA. I'd like to try and organize a new event and piggy-back with DevConf in Brno [1]. DevConf will start Friday the 6th of Feb 2015 in Red Hat Brno offices. My suggestion would be to have a 2 days dedicated HA summit the 4th and the 5th of February. The goal for this meeting is to, beside to get to know each other and all social aspect of those events, tune the directions of the various HA projects and explore common areas of improvements. I am also very open to the idea of extending to 3 days, 1 one dedicated to customers/users and 2 dedicated to developers, by starting the 3rd. Thoughts? Fabio PS Please hit reply all or include me in CC just to make sure I'll see an answer :) [1] http://devconf.cz/ Could you please let me know by end of Nov if you are interested or not? I have heard only from few people so far. Cheers Fabio ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems
Re: [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
All the cool kids will be there. You want to be a cool kid, right? :p On 01/11/14 01:06 AM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote: just a kind reminder. On 9/8/2014 12:30 PM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote: All, it's been almost 6 years since we had a face to face meeting for all developers and vendors involved in Linux HA. I'd like to try and organize a new event and piggy-back with DevConf in Brno [1]. DevConf will start Friday the 6th of Feb 2015 in Red Hat Brno offices. My suggestion would be to have a 2 days dedicated HA summit the 4th and the 5th of February. The goal for this meeting is to, beside to get to know each other and all social aspect of those events, tune the directions of the various HA projects and explore common areas of improvements. I am also very open to the idea of extending to 3 days, 1 one dedicated to customers/users and 2 dedicated to developers, by starting the 3rd. Thoughts? Fabio PS Please hit reply all or include me in CC just to make sure I'll see an answer :) [1] http://devconf.cz/ Could you please let me know by end of Nov if you are interested or not? I have heard only from few people so far. Cheers Fabio ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems -- Digimer Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without access to education? ___ Linux-HA mailing list Linux-HA@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems