Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Re: Q: "cib-last-written"

2011-12-03 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2011-12-01T13:48:56, Ulrich Windl  wrote:

> I wonder about that usefulness of that value, especially as any configuration 
> change seems to increase the epoch anyway. I never saw that CRM cares about 
> the cib-last-written string.

It is for easy inspection by admins and for display by UIs.


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Lars

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Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Re: Q: "cib-last-written"

2011-12-01 Thread Ulrich Windl
>>> Tim Serong  schrieb am 01.12.2011 um 10:19 in Nachricht
<4ed74691.9000...@suse.com>:
> On 12/01/2011 09:10 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:
> "Gao,Yan"  schrieb am 01.12.2011 um 06:55 in Nachricht
> > <4ed716be.9090...@suse.com>:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 11/30/11 21:35, Ulrich Windl wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>> Simple question: when is the attribute "cib-last-written" in XML's "cib"
> >> element updated?
> >> When "//cib/configuration" is changed.
> >
> > So why isn't that an attribute of  then?
> 
> From: 
> http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1/html/Pacemaker_Explained/c 
> h-cluster-options.html
> 
> "The reason for these fields to be placed at the top level instead of 
> with the rest of cluster options is simply a matter of parsing. These 
> options are used by the configuration database which is, by design, 
> mostly ignorant of the content it holds. So the decision was made to 
> place them in an easy to find location."

Hi!

I wonder about that usefulness of that value, especially as any configuration 
change seems to increase the epoch anyway. I never saw that CRM cares about the 
cib-last-written string.

When talking about "easy to find locations", it was a mistake to use XML anyway 
;-)

Regards,
Ulrich


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Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Re: Q: "cib-last-written"

2011-12-01 Thread Tim Serong
On 12/01/2011 09:10 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:
 "Gao,Yan"  schrieb am 01.12.2011 um 06:55 in Nachricht
> <4ed716be.9090...@suse.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 11/30/11 21:35, Ulrich Windl wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Simple question: when is the attribute "cib-last-written" in XML's "cib"
>> element updated?
>> When "//cib/configuration" is changed.
>
> So why isn't that an attribute of  then?

From: 
http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1/html/Pacemaker_Explained/ch-cluster-options.html

"The reason for these fields to be placed at the top level instead of 
with the rest of cluster options is simply a matter of parsing. These 
options are used by the configuration database which is, by design, 
mostly ignorant of the content it holds. So the decision was made to 
place them in an easy to find location."

Regards,

Tim
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SUSE
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Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Re: Q: "cib-last-written"

2011-12-01 Thread Gao,Yan
On 12/01/11 16:10, Ulrich Windl wrote:
 "Gao,Yan"  schrieb am 01.12.2011 um 06:55 in Nachricht
> <4ed716be.9090...@suse.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 11/30/11 21:35, Ulrich Windl wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Simple question: when is the attribute "cib-last-written" in XML's "cib" 
>> element updated?
>> When "//cib/configuration" is changed.
> 
> So why isn't that an attribute of  then?
Actually besides that, changes on some attributes of  will trigger
to update "cib-last-written" too, such as "validate-with".

Regards,
  Gaoyan
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Software Engineer
China Server Team, SUSE.
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[Linux-HA] Antw: Re: Q: "cib-last-written"

2011-12-01 Thread Ulrich Windl
>>> "Gao,Yan"  schrieb am 01.12.2011 um 06:55 in Nachricht
<4ed716be.9090...@suse.com>:
> Hi,
> 
> On 11/30/11 21:35, Ulrich Windl wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Simple question: when is the attribute "cib-last-written" in XML's "cib" 
> element updated?
> When "//cib/configuration" is changed.

So why isn't that an attribute of  then?

> 
> > 
> > I have a CIB that was changed (new epoch) today, but the "cib-last-written" 
> is "Thu Sep 29 08:24:01 2011"
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ulrich
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> 
> Regards,
>   Gaoyan



 

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