Re: Nokia cable + Linux

2002-11-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yes, I've done just that and it works great (also setting and
 sending of icons and ring tones) What you're looking for is the
 gnokii suite. Just google for gnokii :-)

I have an IR-to-USB cable lying around. Has anyone succeeded using
gnokii (I am interested in syncing, or at least backing up my 6210)
with that?

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Re: postfix question.

2002-11-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 07:39:32AM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
  I use postfix as my mail gateway. Recently the technion, apparently, decided
  to close their mail system to mail gateway who have fully qualified
  host names.

 You mean who do nothave..., I assume?

  I have a regular adsl connection at 012. Is there a way for me to have
  a fully qualified host name? i.e.: from some back resolving at my isp,
  or dyndns, though I prefer not to start with those.

 Yes, you need to ask your ISP for backresolving, and you need to make
 sure the mail comes from whatever your ISP backresolves you as. The
 easiest way to do this is get a static IP, a domain and then request
 your ISP to resolve your IP to that domain name.

Every ISP should have back-resolving for every address it provides. Be
that for the purpose of accountability. A satic IP is not needed for that.


 Another option is to tell your postifx to use your ISP's mail server
 for all outgoing mail. That should solve your Technion problems, but
 is not what you asked.


Recall that some mail admins have a strange habit of denying mail from
dial-up users. Whatever your opinion about that habit may be, it remains
a fact. I don't remember if the Technion is not one of them.

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Re: postfix question.

2002-11-18 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 10:57:17AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

  Yes, you need to ask your ISP for backresolving, and you need to make
  sure the mail comes from whatever your ISP backresolves you as. The
  easiest way to do this is get a static IP, a domain and then request
  your ISP to resolve your IP to that domain name.
 
 Every ISP should have back-resolving for every address it provides. Be
 that for the purpose of accountability. A satic IP is not needed for
 that.

A static IP is recommended (not needed) for hosting a domain. Hosting
a domain, and having your ISP back resolve to it, will allow you to
send mail from 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

instead of

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

which is the usual form ISPs that do backresolving give their IPs. 
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Re: postfix question.

2002-11-18 Thread Orna Agmon
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote:

 I use postfix as my mail gateway. Recently the technion, apparently, decided 
 to close their mail system to mail gateway who have fully qualified host names.
 I have a regular adsl connection at 012. Is there a way for me to have
 a fully qualified host name? i.e.: from some back resolving at my isp,
 or dyndns, though I prefer not to start with those.
 
 p.s: here is the reject message:
 
 
   The Postfix program
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mrelay.technion.ac.il[132.68.238.38] said:
 504 localhost: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname
 

First of all, I just an email (and got it on tx.technion.ac.il) from my 
postfix, which is on an adsl 
connected computer, with a static IP and *without* back resolving to the 
hostname I am using.

I believe it is a (temporary ?) problem inside the technion: 

A few months ago there were a couple of days in which mails which went the 
very same path got delayed, upto a couple of hours.  I sniffed around the 
technion and found out they were doing some changes. Afterwards, I managed 
to send emails to the technion without back resolving, as i do today.  

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crossover office info

2002-11-18 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi People,

I'm getting lots of emails from people asking about CrossOver Office  hebrew 
related issues, and most of these people are subscribed here - so I thought 
to explain everything here, so if you're not interested in this info, feel 
free to drop this email to /dev/null ;)

Now to some info:

Crossover office works both as single installation (its installed on your home 
directory, so you don't need to be the admin of the machine you're using) and 
as multiple installation (you need to be root and the installation goes by 
the default to /opt/cxoffice. You don't need to add paths or to setup 
anything). Once you install it, you'll see CrossOver sub-menu in both KDE  
GNOME, but not on the older Window Managers like Window Maker, XFCE, ICE-WM, 
BlackBox (not sure about englightment), etc...

If you're using KDE or GNOME, then at the end of the application installation, 
you'll get a menu with options of what to associate with whom, so you can 
setup .doc/.xls for example (there are tons of associations!) to your KMail, 
or Evolution, to Konqueror and to Nautilus.

If you want to use MS Outlook, then you can use it, but files will not be run 
automatically and you won't be able to open any executable file. You're also 
protected from Klez and it's friends, so no need for Anti Virus. I have 
tested outlook with both Hebrew and english, and it works perfectly.

Application executions - all of the applications can be executed just like any 
normal Linux applications - example: ~/cxoffice/bin/excel, 
~/cxoffice/bin/winword etc.. If you want the MS icons (the crossover 
installation extracts them for you as XPM files), they are available at 
~/cxoffice/support/dotwine/fake_windows/Windows/Icons (based on the file 
assocation, so Word icon is doc.xpm) - (just for fun, you might want to open 
such an XPM with text editor).

Hebrew issues: Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook opens, read, write, and edit 
text in hebrew pretty well. You just need to add something like LANG=he_IL 
before the execution of the app, example: LANG=he_IL ~/cxoffice/bin/winword. 
All the parameters that you want to feed to word are allowed here as well 
(for OLE, opening document, auto print, etc..).

However - There seems to be a problem which I'm not sure if it's related to 
KDE or something else - the CTRL RIGHT-SHIFT key sequence (to work from right 
to left) works on my RH 8.0 machine with Window Maker, but not on my KDE on 
RH 7.3, so as a workaround you can use the hnormal.dot (hebrew normal 
template) to write new hebrew documents. Editing existing documents works ok.

I hope this info helps to people who asked me privately and to those who were 
curious..

Thanks,
Hetz

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Ynet published our reponse to Mr. Skup

2002-11-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2255115,00.html

Though my name might be signed on this thing, the list of people that
actually did the job is much longer:

Thanks to everyone that helped this happen: Haim for editing, Doron,
Kathriel, Barak, Amir, Meir,  Yehuda and Dror  for helping getting this
to the press and most of all for accepting my request to take the
original version of their sites in order to get it published at Ynet,
Ira for running interference on Ynet's forum and for everyone else.

Gilad.

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Linux article (fwd)

2002-11-18 Thread Shlomi Fish

If you use Linux as servers, please reply.

I know Harmonic Lightwaves has some Linux and other UNIX servers.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:48:11 +0200
From: Ronny Halevi@PCon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux article

Hi,
My name is Ronny Halevi and I'm a writer at PCOn magazine (www.pcon.co.il).
I am doing an article about Linux and was wondering if you know about Israeli 
companies which
uses Linux as servers.

I will appreciate any information you may have.

Thanks,
Ronny Halevi

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Re: Linux article (fwd)

2002-11-18 Thread Ariel Biener
On Monday 18 November 2002 14:52, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 If you use Linux as servers, please reply.

Of course we use Linux as servers ...
Included but definetly not all are (at TAU):

mail servers
NIS servers
1 proxy
2 general usage number crunching servers
1 general purpose server
1 IDS
1 Checkpoint firewall
1 outer perimeter defense system
Main web server
Webmail

There is more, but lets leave it at that.

--Ariel

 I know Harmonic Lightwaves has some Linux and other UNIX servers.

 Regards,

   Shlomi Fish

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 Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups...
 Wait a second - is n a natural number?

 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:48:11 +0200
 From: Ronny Halevi@PCon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Linux article

 Hi,
 My name is Ronny Halevi and I'm a writer at PCOn magazine (www.pcon.co.il).
 I am doing an article about Linux and was wondering if you know about
 Israeli companies which uses Linux as servers.

 I will appreciate any information you may have.

 Thanks,
 Ronny Halevi
 
 Ronny Halevi
 Writer, PCon
 Tel.  03.6022579
 Mobile. 067.301310

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Re: Linux article (fwd)

2002-11-18 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Shlomi Fish:

 
 If you use Linux as servers, please reply.

yes.

I know many such companies --- my own and others.

 I know Harmonic Lightwaves has some Linux and other UNIX servers.
 
 Regards,
 
   Shlomi Fish
 
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 Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/
 Home E-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups...
 Wait a second - is n a natural number?
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:48:11 +0200
 From: Ronny Halevi@PCon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Linux article
 
 Hi,
 My name is Ronny Halevi and I'm a writer at PCOn magazine (www.pcon.co.il).
 I am doing an article about Linux and was wondering if you know about Israeli 
companies which
 uses Linux as servers.
 
 I will appreciate any information you may have.
 
 Thanks,
 Ronny Halevi
 
 Ronny Halevi
 Writer, PCon
 Tel.  03.6022579
 Mobile. 067.301310
 :: www.PCon.co.il
 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: Linux article (fwd)

2002-11-18 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Monday 18 November 2002 12:52, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 If you use Linux as servers, please reply.

 I know Harmonic Lightwaves has some Linux and other UNIX servers.

 Regards,

   Shlomi Fish

Yes they do. We installed UPS's on some of their servers which ran RedHat 
(IIRC the name of the company), was long time ago though. 

We use Linux for file and print, mail, web and firewall/router at our company.

Plus we have several of our clients which we converted to Linux (from Novell 
and in place of buying NT/2K), using Samba and/or simple firewalling (IPCOP) 
and DB servers (running firebird).

 Hi,
 My name is Ronny Halevi and I'm a writer at PCOn magazine (www.pcon.co.il).
 I am doing an article about Linux and was wondering if you know about
 Israeli companies which uses Linux as servers.

 I will appreciate any information you may have.

 Thanks,
 Ronny Halevi

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Re: Ynet published our reponse to Mr. Skup

2002-11-18 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about Ynet published our reponse to Mr. 
Skup:
 http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2255115,00.html

M.K. Ronen also replied to Skup: see
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2255774,00.html

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RE: postfix question

2002-11-18 Thread Tzahi Fadida
10x everybody,
and to michael.
As suggested i've just set my hostname in main.cf to smtp.lycos.co.uk which is a
qualified host name. and i can send mail as usual. (not restricted to lycos.co.uk, it
works from any email address - valid of course).
by my reasoning its just petty business from the techinon, since everyone can repeat
the above procedure.
i.e. not adding to security at all.

p.s: if i didn't mention it, the technion server was t2.

* - * - *
Tzahi Fadida
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 -Original Message-
 From: Tzafrir Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:57 AM
 To: Muli Ben-Yehuda
 Cc: Tzahi Fadida; Linux-IL mailing list
 Subject: Re: postfix question


 On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:

  On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 07:39:32AM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
   I use postfix as my mail gateway. Recently the technion, apparently, decided
   to close their mail system to mail gateway who have fully qualified
   host names
 
  You mean who do nothave..., I assume?
 
   I have a regular adsl connection at 012. Is there a way for me to have
   a fully qualified host name? i.e.: from some back resolving at my isp,
   or dyndns, though I prefer not to start with those
 
  Yes, you need to ask your ISP for backresolving, and you need to make
  sure the mail comes from whatever your ISP backresolves you as. The
  easiest way to do this is get a static IP, a domain and then request
  your ISP to resolve your IP to that domain name

 Every ISP should have back-resolving for every address it provides. Be
 that for the purpose of accountability. A satic IP is not needed for that

 
  Another option is to tell your postifx to use your ISP's mail server
  for all outgoing mail. That should solve your Technion problems, but
  is not what you asked
 

 Recall that some mail admins have a strange habit of denying mail from
 dial-up users. Whatever your opinion about that habit may be, it remains
 a fact. I don't remember if the Technion is not one of them

 --
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Nechma Ronen Answer to Arie Skup

2002-11-18 Thread Ran Zahor
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2255774,00.html


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Re: postfix question.

2002-11-18 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 11:04:31AM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
 
 A static IP is recommended (not needed) for hosting a domain.


What do you mean by that? How will you publish where the domain servers
is to be found if your domain doesn't have static IP? Did you only 
considered special services like dyndns or email your visitors the new
IP every time it has changed? Am I missing something essential?

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Re: postfix question.

2002-11-18 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 11:20:12AM +0200, Orna Agmon wrote:
 
 First of all, I just an email (and got it on tx.technion.ac.il) from my 
 postfix, which is on an adsl 
 connected computer, with a static IP and *without* back resolving to the 
 hostname I am using.


I might be mixing some issues together but as far as I remember some 
sites like ftp.tau.ac.il were not accessible to me until that back 
resolving thing was fixed by my ISP. In fact TAU people even bothered to
print a welcome message in their ftp site that actually mentioned that 
access is denied due to the back resolving matter. It is my 
understanding that they consider back resolving an important security 
issue and expect every one to have it.

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Re: Ynet published our reponse to Mr. Skup

2002-11-18 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Mon, 18 Nov:
 On Mon, Nov 18, 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about Ynet published our reponse to 
Mr. Skup:
  http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2255115,00.html
 
 M.K. Ronen also replied to Skup: see
 http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2255774,00.html

Skop or Scop I think. not Skup.

I believe Ronen is either trying a provocative menuver here' or being a
little manipulated, because her law is both bad for the government, bad
for the citizens, anti-democratic, and makes very little technical
sense, not to mention screwes many more companies other than mickeysoft.
I responded to her in Ynet, but it will probably drown in a sea of
flames again.

I'm not sure it's worth answering here really before the elections calm
down and we know who is in the next Knesset. Our efforts will most
probably be better directed at the parties, to put freedom of
information and promotion of open standards in their platform. When I
read her words it pisses me off to the point of fantasizing on running a
small party to the knesset so there is at least ONE or two MKs who know
ANYTHING about the technological issues of the information economy and
digital gap, but then I remember that it requires becoming a politician
and use your elbows to the point they break, and I get back to work :)

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Re: Linux article (fwd)ronny@pcon.co.il

2002-11-18 Thread Ehud Karni
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:23:19 +0200, Ariel Biener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Of course we use Linux as servers ...
 Included but definetly not all are (at TAU):
 
 mail servers
 NIS servers
 1 proxy
 2 general usage number crunching servers
 1 general purpose server
 1 IDS
 1 Checkpoint firewall
 1 outer perimeter defense system
 Main web server
 Webmail
 
 There is more, but lets leave it at that.

This is all dedicated servers running off the shelf software (except
may be the number crunchers what are they used for ?).
What are the servers for the TAU legacy software (students records
management and the like) ?

The real difference between legacy software (representing the
organization memory and assets) and external (shelf) software
is: the latter can be replaced (very) easily by other software for
the same purpose.

Linux real progress will be only when companies/institutions will
move their business running software to linux servers.

Ehud.


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Re: Ynet published our reponse to Mr. Skup

2002-11-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 17:11, Ira Abramov wrote:
 Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Mon, 18 Nov:
  On Mon, Nov 18, 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about Ynet published our reponse to 
Mr. Skup:
   http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2255115,00.html
  
  M.K. Ronen also replied to Skup: see
  http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2255774,00.html
 
 Skop or Scop I think. not Skup.

How's that for a laugh - someone in my family claims I'm actually
related to this guy in some obscure way. 

 I believe Ronen is either trying a provocative menuver here' or being a
 little manipulated, because her law is both bad for the government, bad
 for the citizens, anti-democratic, and makes very little technical
 sense, not to mention screwes many more companies other than mickeysoft.
 I responded to her in Ynet, but it will probably drown in a sea of
 flames again.
 

I have no idea what she's trying to do or who is leading her
(coughSun/cough) but I don't think I like her suggestion very much. 

When we were in the Knesset Arie Skop brought some guy from some
government agency that said he is using many kinds of software (he was a
little confused about what Open/Free Software was but that's beside the
point) and that he takes no side in the argument but that he doesn't
want any non technical people interfering with his technical decisions
and I think that to a large extent he is right.

Moreover, forcing anyone to use Free Software is, IMHO, an oxymoron.
Free Software was supposed to keep the rights of the users and he is a
user too. It is true though that we shouldn't let the decision of the
one dictate the choice to the many. I thing the proposal we brought up
caught the right balance there.

Having said that, there is some advantage to having this wild out
proposal being flung. it serves to make *us* look like the sane
option. Microsoft might end up supporting the proposal to keep Ronen's
proposal at bay. 

Well, I can dream, can't I? ;-)

Gilad

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Re: Linux article (fwd) ronny@pcon.co.il

2002-11-18 Thread Ehud Karni
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 18:45:39 +0200 (IST), Orna Agmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Ehud Karni wrote:
  This is all dedicated servers running off the shelf software (except
  may be the number crunchers what are they used for ?).
 
 Number crunching servers are used for running CPU-hungry processes, 
 usually floating point calculations. Typically those would be various 
 numerical simulations, solving of large matrices, Monte Carlo 
 calculations, etc. 

Don't humiliate me. I know what are number cruncher and what are
they used for (I'm a physicist by education and worked on weather
applications). My question (obviously not understood) was: what 
these specific servers used in TAU (Are they used for some specific
departments - physics, economics or specific tasks) ?
 
I have another related question: are there bigger dedicated number
cruncher in TAU (possibly SGI or CRAY) ?

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Re: Linux article (fwd) ronny@pcon.co.il

2002-11-18 Thread Orna Agmon
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Ehud Karni wrote:
 This is all dedicated servers running off the shelf software (except
 may be the number crunchers what are they used for ?).


Number crunching servers are used for running CPU-hungry processes, 
usually floating point calculations. Typically those would be various 
numerical simulations, solving of large matrices, Monte Carlo 
calculations, etc. 

See

http://tx.technion.ac.il/~agmon/linux4me.html

for my view on why Linux is great for this sort of thing.

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Re: postfix question.

2002-11-18 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 04:29:29PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 11:04:31AM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
  
  A static IP is recommended (not needed) for hosting a domain.
 
 What do you mean by that? How will you publish where the domain servers
 is to be found if your domain doesn't have static IP? Did you only 
 considered special services like dyndns or email your visitors the new
 IP every time it has changed? Am I missing something essential?

dyndns and services like it use the TTL field in DNS to force the
visitor to query the name server directly responsible for the domain,
which is updated on the fly whenever the IP address changes. An
(ab)use of DNS, but it works. 
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Re: Ynet published our reponse to Mr. Skup

2002-11-18 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Mon, 18 Nov:
  I believe Ronen is either trying a provocative menuver here' or being a
  little manipulated, because her law is both bad for the government, bad
 
 I have no idea what she's trying to do or who is leading her
 (coughSun/cough) but I don't think I like her suggestion very much. 

umm, her silly offer shuts out ANY closed source, Sun and Mickysoft in on
blow.

 Well, I can dream, can't I? ;-)

as long as the dream is released under an OSD-compatible license,
otherwise the NBSA will be hot on your tail. (NBSA= Nekhama's BS Agency)

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Re: crossover office info

2002-11-18 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Hello Hetz!

I've also tried putting up Crossover, but the only things that run are 
Internet Explorer and the Media Player. All of the office apps give a 
pop up box with this:

 ?? ?? ??  ?? ?? ? ?? ??? ?? 

?? ?? ? ? ?? ??

1. To the best of my knowledge everything was set to be run from hard 
disk (not from the CD on demand).
2. I did a root install to /opt/cxoffice.
3. Everthing seemed to go smoothly.

a. Do you have any idea what is needed here? (Everthing is world 
readable/executable, so it's not a permissions issue.)
b. Do you know if there is there any way to install the supplementary 
language pack?

And finally a comment: On my SuSE 8.1/KDE system, Ctl Right Shift does 
nothing. I just toggle the little languge flag in the dock tray from USE 
to Hebrew (as I did to insert the Hebrew message above).

Regards,

Daniel


Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

Hi People,

I'm getting lots of emails from people asking about CrossOver Office  hebrew 
related issues, and most of these people are subscribed here - so I thought 
to explain everything here, so if you're not interested in this info, feel 
free to drop this email to /dev/null ;)

Now to some info:

Crossover office works both as single installation (its installed on your home 
directory, so you don't need to be the admin of the machine you're using) and 
as multiple installation (you need to be root and the installation goes by 
the default to /opt/cxoffice. You don't need to add paths or to setup 
anything). Once you install it, you'll see CrossOver sub-menu in both KDE  
GNOME, but not on the older Window Managers like Window Maker, XFCE, ICE-WM, 
BlackBox (not sure about englightment), etc...

If you're using KDE or GNOME, then at the end of the application installation, 
you'll get a menu with options of what to associate with whom, so you can 
setup .doc/.xls for example (there are tons of associations!) to your KMail, 
or Evolution, to Konqueror and to Nautilus.

If you want to use MS Outlook, then you can use it, but files will not be run 
automatically and you won't be able to open any executable file. You're also 
protected from Klez and it's friends, so no need for Anti Virus. I have 
tested outlook with both Hebrew and english, and it works perfectly.

Application executions - all of the applications can be executed just like any 
normal Linux applications - example: ~/cxoffice/bin/excel, 
~/cxoffice/bin/winword etc.. If you want the MS icons (the crossover 
installation extracts them for you as XPM files), they are available at 
~/cxoffice/support/dotwine/fake_windows/Windows/Icons (based on the file 
assocation, so Word icon is doc.xpm) - (just for fun, you might want to open 
such an XPM with text editor).

Hebrew issues: Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook opens, read, write, and edit 
text in hebrew pretty well. You just need to add something like LANG=he_IL 
before the execution of the app, example: LANG=he_IL ~/cxoffice/bin/winword. 
All the parameters that you want to feed to word are allowed here as well 
(for OLE, opening document, auto print, etc..).

However - There seems to be a problem which I'm not sure if it's related to 
KDE or something else - the CTRL RIGHT-SHIFT key sequence (to work from right 
to left) works on my RH 8.0 machine with Window Maker, but not on my KDE on 
RH 7.3, so as a workaround you can use the hnormal.dot (hebrew normal 
template) to write new hebrew documents. Editing existing documents works ok.

I hope this info helps to people who asked me privately and to those who were 
curious..

Thanks,
Hetz

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Re: crossover office info

2002-11-18 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:26:14 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote
 Hello Hetz!
 
 I've also tried putting up Crossover, but the only things that run are 
 Internet Explorer and the Media Player. All of the office apps give a 
 pop up box with this:
 
  ?? ?? ??  ?? ?? ? ?? ??? ?? 
 
 ?? ?? ? ? ?? ??

If you're sending hebrew messages, then please make sure you're sending it in
hebrew encoding. I'm using openweb mail now and I cannot read this mesage.

Are You trying CrossOver plugin product? because thats a totally different
product. Also, try to install from CDROM and not from hard drive.

Also, make sure you're using CrossOver 1.3.1 - specially when you're using SuSE
8.1 (which I'm not sure is supported).
 
 1. To the best of my knowledge everything was set to be run from hard 
 disk (not from the CD on demand).

Ok.

 2. I did a root install to /opt/cxoffice.

Did you try as a standard user first?

 a. Do you have any idea what is needed here? (Everthing is world 
 readable/executable, so it's not a permissions issue.)

For each user it opens a mini registry, and it sets up it's own premission..

 b. Do you know if there is there any way to install the supplementary 
 language pack?

Well, I don't have this pack to test. If you can loan me the pack for a quick
test (and erase, I want to stay legal with commercial software) - I'll be most
apperciateful about that.
 
 And finally a comment: On my SuSE 8.1/KDE system, Ctl Right Shift does 
 nothing. I just toggle the little languge flag in the dock tray from 
 USE to Hebrew (as I did to insert the Hebrew message above).

Yeah, I think I figured out why it happends. Re-install Office with LOCALE set
to hebrew first, only then the installer thinks it's a Hebrew Windows and then
it adds the CTRL SHIFT stuff which needed for bidi. (don't be surprised to see
the hebrew install messages like mamtin le-hatkana :)


Thanks,
Hetz

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Re: crossover office info

2002-11-18 Thread Daniel Feiglin




Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:

  On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:26:14 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote
  
  
Hello Hetz!

I've also tried putting up Crossover, but the only things that run are 
Internet Explorer and the Media Player. All of the office apps give a 
pop up box with this:

 ?? ?? ??  "?? ?? ? ?? ??? ?? 
"
?? ?? ? ? ?? ??

  
  
If you're sending hebrew messages, then please make sure you're sending it in
hebrew encoding. I'm using openweb mail now and I cannot read this mesage.

Oy vay! I'll try again (I've set the encoding to ISO 8859-8-1):

äôòì àú úåëðéú ääú÷ðä îúåê "éù ìäú÷éï ééùåí æä ëãé ìäôòéì àåúå
"
äîé÷åí áå äú÷ðú áî÷åí àú äééùåí

That's pretty cryptic!

  

Are You trying CrossOver plugin product? 

Nope - the full deal.

  because thats a totally different
product. Also, try to install from CDROM and not from hard drive.

Do yo mean the MS stuff or Crossover? MS stuff was from an original CD, Crossover
from the supplied downloaded executable.

  

Also, make sure you're using CrossOver 1.3.1 - specially when you're using SuSE
8.1 

Using 1.3.1. I can't see why the distro should matter all that much. SuSE
is rpm based and uses /etc, /usr, /opt and /home in the standard way.

  (which I'm not sure is supported).
 
  
  
1. To the best of my knowledge everything was set to be run from hard 
disk (not from the CD on demand).

  
  
Ok.

  
  
2. I did a root install to /opt/cxoffice.

  
  
Did you try as a standard user first?

No - I do all intalls system wide, so that they'll work for any account.

  

  
  
a. Do you have any idea what is needed here? (Everthing is world 
readable/executable, so it's not a permissions issue.)

  
  
For each user it opens a "mini" registry, and it sets up it's own premission..

I noticed that.

  

  
  
b. Do you know if there is there any way to install the supplementary 
language pack?

  
  
Well, I don't have this pack to test. 

That's odd - it's part of the standard distro. 

  If you can loan me the pack for a quick
test (and erase, I want to stay legal with commercial software) - I'll be most
apperciateful about that.
 
  
  
And finally a comment: On my SuSE 8.1/KDE system, Ctl Right Shift does 
nothing. I just toggle the little languge flag in the dock tray from 
USE to Hebrew (as I did to insert the Hebrew message above).

  
  
Yeah, I think I figured out why it happends. Re-install Office with LOCALE set
to hebrew first, only then the installer thinks it's a Hebrew Windows and then
it adds the CTRL SHIFT stuff which needed for bidi. (don't be surprised to see
the hebrew install messages like "mamtin le-hatkana" :)

That may solve the above problem too.


  


Thanks,
Hetz

  







Re: crossover office info

2002-11-18 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
 Oy vay! I'll try again (I've set the encoding to ISO 8859-8-1):
 
 äôòì àú úåëðéú ääú÷ðä îúåê éù ìäú÷éï ééùåí æä ëãé ìäôòéì àåúå
 
 äîé÷åí áå äú÷ðú áî÷åí àú äééùåí
 
 That's pretty cryptic!

Hmm, SuSE with their mount commands... grr...
Do this:

$ su  
# mount -t iso9660 -r -o unhide /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  
# exit  

Make sure that you're running the setup.exe from the root directory in your
CDROM (e.g. E:\setup.exe)

 Also, make sure you're using CrossOver 1.3.1 - specially when you're using SuSE
 8.1 
 
 Using 1.3.1. I can't see why the distro should matter all that much. 
 SuSE is rpm based and uses /etc, /usr, /opt and /home in the standard way.

Oh, it does. Menu's are placed in each distribution in different places, add on
top of that the fact that CrossOver supports both KDE (2.x, 3.x)  GNOME (1.x, 2.x)

 b. Do you know if there is there any way to install the supplementary 
 language pack?
 
 Well, I don't have this pack to test. 
 
 That's odd - it's part of the standard distro.

I have the MSDN version (1 CD).
 
 That may solve the above problem too.

You may want also to look at this (long) FAQ:
http://crossover.codeweavers.com/docs/office/html/techsupport.html

Thanks,
Hetz


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Re: php question

2002-11-18 Thread Andre E. Bar'yudin
On Вск, Ноя 17, 2002 at 03:17:13 -0500, Arie Folger wrote:
 On Sunday 17 November 2002 13:46, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 10:12:39AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Has your input come from Mozilla? It does that. To make sure, write a cgi
   script (if you don't trust PHP) that displays its input as text/plain,
   and create a form in UTF8 that sends to that script.
 
  Actually, both IE5 and Mozilla will encode characters which aren't
  present in the charset of the page which contains the HTML form, as
  Unicode entities (e.g. #blah;).
 snip
  To avoid this behavior, simply make this page, which contains the
  HTML form, in any Unicode encoding -- UTF-8, UTF-7 or UCS-2 (yuck!).
 
 But I stated in my first email that I patched phpnuke to do utf-8. The first 
 thing I did was to change the charset= attribute.I even patched the xml 
 container (standard feature of xhtml) because it also specifies 
 a charset, but there is no difference.
 
 I must say that I now tested the site with konqueror (see below why I am using 
 galeon for this site) and indeed it is a mozilla unexpected (to me) behaviour 
 which caused the translation of utf8 to numbered entities. I think I will 
 write a maintenance script that will access the database directly and chage 
 numbered entitiesback to utf8, easier than changing parts of the php code 
 which I didn't research sufficiently. Is there a way to disable this 
 translation feature of mozilla and ie?

[NOTE: I ASSUME THAT THE DISCUSSION IS TOTALLY OFF-TOPIC]

I do not think that mozilla translates UTF-8 to HTML entities.  I work
constantly with UTF-8-based applications (which I've written myself),
that submit data via HTTP and store it in database.  Working with
Mozilla (starting from 1.0+) and MS SQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle the
real/correct UTF-8 is stored in the database.  I assume that the
problem is related to how PHP handles the response from your browser.
Mozilla probably doesn't provide the response character set, during form
submission and Konqueror does, hence the difference between them.  Now,
when PHP doesn't have a response content type it probably assumes some
default (say, iso-8859-1) and escapes every out-of-the-range character
by HTML entities.

The conclusion is that you need to persuade PHP that the submitted
response is encoded in UTF-8.  I don't know how exactly to do it.  Maybe
disabling magic quotes or related stuff will help...

 The whole matter is complicated by the fact that konqueror will crash on large 
 texts pasted into textarea boxes of forms, and I am posting long papers 
 (20-30 pages), so I have been using galeon.
 
 Arie
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Re: Linux article (fwd) ronny@pcon.co.il

2002-11-18 Thread Guy Baruch

for academic supercomputers in israel, try:

http://www.machba.ac.il/

then click on the last item, HCPU .

in it, you'll find:

The machine installed at Tel-Aviv University - Or - has 56 nodes (112 
R12000 400Mhz Processors) and 512MB memory, allowing for a maximum of 
28Gb RAM and 600Gb of local (internal) disk space with 72 gigaflops peak 
performance. Peak performance of each processor: 800Mflops. 

(I haven't worked with them myself)

Ehud Karni wrote:


I have another related question: are there bigger dedicated number
cruncher in TAU (possibly SGI or CRAY) ?

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