Re: First Debian Certified laptop.

2004-01-06 Thread Yoni Rabkin Katzenell
On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 03:04:48PM +0200, Gal Gur-Arie wrote:
> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4871081775.html
> 
> Jan. 05, 2004
> 
> LinuxCertified has announced the availability of its first Debian 
> Certified laptop. The new LC2430 model is pre-configured Debian 
> GNU/Linux, is powered by a 2.66 GHz Pentium 4 processor, has a DVD and 
> CD-R/W combo drive, and a 15-inch screen among features.
> 
> The system is available for US $1900, with a US $150 discount through 
> January 31, 2004. Other laptops in the LC2000 family will be certified 
> on Debian soon, according to a company statement.
> 
> "I am delighted that LinuxCertified is offering a laptop with Debian 
> pre-installed," said Martin Michlmayr, Leader of the Debian Project. 
> "Many of our users seek hardware which is officially certified and 
> supported to work with Debian, and unfortunately there's a shortage of 
> well-supported Linux laptops in general."
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This is a very good trend. I'd like to see all laptops come with a
small Tux sticker besides (or instead!) of the regular "Designed for
Windows [ENTER VERSION HERE]" sticker.

I believe that we will see the day when installing Linux on a laptop
will become less of a black art and more of a choice.

It happened on the desktop and is still going strong.

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Re: Rss in mm_struct

2004-01-06 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"moses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The rss field in the mm_struct indicated on the real memory resident size but
> this field is defined also in the mm_stat struct (that is defined in
> mm_struct).
> 
> what is the different between this two field  (there value are different).

First of all, you'll have to ask Red Hat - I don't think
mm_struct.mm_stat exists in vanilla 2.4 or 2.6.

Secondly, check Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt, section 1.1. It
looks to me that mm_struct.rss and mm_struct.mm_stat.rss are the same,
only the former is in kB, and the latter is in pages. This will
explain the difference in values.

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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-06 Thread Orna Agmon
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Dan Fruehauf wrote:

> On Sunday 04 January 2004 21:34, Lior Kaplan wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Any recommendations on X server for windows?
> > I'd like to set some X forwarding.
> >
> > I saw some commercial solutions, but I need something free (as in beer...).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lior Kaplan
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> > http://www.Guides.co.il
> >
> > Come to write at the forums: http://www.guides.co.il/forums
>
> I can speak for a commercial sollution which seems to be the best, as i ask
> people
> If you decide to spent some $$, Exceed is the sollution i'm talking about. It
> has various features you wont get on other X servers, it is stable, one might
> say bloated a little, but it works really good.

My current Exceed is version 7.0, and it has a small and annoying bug
(maybe it is not a bug, but all the technical support at my workplace
tried to make it work like it worked until version 6.0, and could not):

Several fonts went missing. Even after the fonts were added in the proper
place, Exceed no longer recognized them. In particular, Exceed gave emacs
non-fixed width fonts, when emacs asked for itallic fixed width.

Seems small, but it means that when I commented out code (and used an
itallic style for that) the length of the line changed significantly. This
resulted in me first abandoning itallic fonts, and soon after abandoning
Exceed altogether.

Long live putty! :)

Orna.

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Re: solved (was Re: lost my X server)

2004-01-06 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 05:44:09PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> I promised to let the list know how I solved the problem (in case it's ever of 
> some use to someone). After a lot of trial and error, I discovered that  
> /usr/X11R6/lib/modules was an empty directory. I checked on my other 
> installation and found that it should contain hundreds of files. I have no 
> idea what happened to the files, but I copied them all from the other 
> installation and X now works. I only wish I had an idea why these files and 
> /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 disappeared. I wonder if anything else is missing :-(. 
> I wrote earlier that I have backups of everything, but that's not 100% true. 
> I always assumed that it wasn't necessary to back-up nearly 4 Mega of /usr 
> since I could always re-install any package from RPMs. But now, I'm not so 
> sure. I did try erasing and re-installing XFree86 and even went to the 
> extreme of updating from MDK91 to MDK92 and still ended up with missing 
> files. Very strange.

It's quite weird. Maybe you had a disk/fs problem? Maybe you still do?
Can you try 'fsck -f' your partition from somewhere else (your other
partition or rescue floppy/cd)? Can you look at /lost+found on that
partition and see if you have there something? Both before and after
fsck? In any case, you can find out what package these files belong to
in your other partition (with rpm -qf) and install it (maybe with -U,
if it thinks you already have it). While I do not recommend to not
backup your /usr, I do think it's not that important, and at home I
don't. If you do have simple means for that, you can still backup.
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Re: solved (was Re: lost my X server)

2004-01-06 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Shlomo Solomon wrote:

> I promised to let the list know how I solved the problem (in case it's ever of
> some use to someone). After a lot of trial and error, I discovered that
> /usr/X11R6/lib/modules was an empty directory. I checked on my other
> installation and found that it should contain hundreds of files. I have no
> idea what happened to the files, but I copied them all from the other
> installation and X now works. I only wish I had an idea why these files and
> /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 disappeared. I wonder if anything else is missing :-(.
> I wrote earlier that I have backups of everything, but that's not 100% true.
> I always assumed that it wasn't necessary to back-up nearly 4 Mega of /usr
> since I could always re-install any package from RPMs. But now, I'm not so
> sure. I did try erasing and re-installing XFree86 and even went to the
> extreme of updating from MDK91 to MDK92 and still ended up with missing
> files. Very strange.

You can use rpm -qV with various options to check
missing/altered/corrupted/... files.

behdad

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Re: solved (was Re: lost my X server)

2004-01-06 Thread Shlomo Solomon
I promised to let the list know how I solved the problem (in case it's ever of 
some use to someone). After a lot of trial and error, I discovered that  
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules was an empty directory. I checked on my other 
installation and found that it should contain hundreds of files. I have no 
idea what happened to the files, but I copied them all from the other 
installation and X now works. I only wish I had an idea why these files and 
/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 disappeared. I wonder if anything else is missing :-(. 
I wrote earlier that I have backups of everything, but that's not 100% true. 
I always assumed that it wasn't necessary to back-up nearly 4 Mega of /usr 
since I could always re-install any package from RPMs. But now, I'm not so 
sure. I did try erasing and re-installing XFree86 and even went to the 
extreme of updating from MDK91 to MDK92 and still ended up with missing 
files. Very strange.



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Re: troubles with QT projects

2004-01-06 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, David D wrote:

> [this question has been sent to gnubies-il couple of
> days ago, but since there was no answer there, I'm
> trying my luck here. sorry for cross-post]
>
> Hi,
> I have a very annoying problem on my mdk9.2. I tried
> to comile a QT
> package (namely Kcheckers:
> http://kcheckers.osdn.org.ua/http://kcheckers.osdn.org.ua/)
> and I've
> got zellions of  "undefined reference" error messages.
>
>
> When I try to create a new QT project in Kdevelop, I
> get the
> following error "configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3)
> (library qt-mt)
> not found".
> Please help. Thanks
> Some diagnostics:
> [me]$ gcc --version
> 2.95.3
> #I've replaced gcc3.2 with gcc2.95.3


Linus Torvalds was saying how gcc2.95 and gcc3.2 can be sanely
assumed as two different compilers.  It's much much more true
when it comes to C++ code.  Do you really think 2.95 objects can
link to qt libs compiled with 3.2?

behdad








> [me]$ urpmf qt-mt
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.prl
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1.2
> libqt3-devel:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.prl
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1.2
> libqt3-devel:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.prl
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1
> libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1.2
> libqt3-devel:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so
> [root]# rpm -qa | grep qt
> libqt3-3.1.2-14.1.92mdk
> qt3-common-3.1.2-14.1.92mdk
> qt3.1.2-3.1.2-1
> libqt3-devel-3.1.2-14.1.92mdk
>
>
>
>
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troubles with QT projects

2004-01-06 Thread David D
[this question has been sent to gnubies-il couple of
days ago, but since there was no answer there, I'm
trying my luck here. sorry for cross-post]

Hi, 
I have a very annoying problem on my mdk9.2. I tried
to comile a QT 
package (namely Kcheckers: 
http://kcheckers.osdn.org.ua/http://kcheckers.osdn.org.ua/)
and I've 
got zellions of  "undefined reference" error messages.

 
When I try to create a new QT project in Kdevelop, I
get the 
following error "configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3)
(library qt-mt) 
not found". 
Please help. Thanks 
Some diagnostics:
[me]$ gcc --version
2.95.3
#I've replaced gcc3.2 with gcc2.95.3
[me]$ urpmf qt-mt 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.prl 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1.2 
libqt3-devel:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.prl 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1.2 
libqt3-devel:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.prl 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1 
libqt3:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.1.2 
libqt3-devel:/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so 
[root]# rpm -qa | grep qt  
libqt3-3.1.2-14.1.92mdk  
qt3-common-3.1.2-14.1.92mdk  
qt3.1.2-3.1.2-1  
libqt3-devel-3.1.2-14.1.92mdk  
 


 


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Rss in mm_struct

2004-01-06 Thread moses
Title: Message



Hi 
all
 
The rss field in the 
mm_struct indicated on the real memory resident size but this field is defined 
also in the mm_stat struct (that is defined in mm_struct).
 
what is the 
different between this two field  (there value are 
different).