automake depends on automake
Hi list, I'm managing a project with automake. Currently installed on my machine is automake 1.7.9. In some regards, this is just great. At close to zero cost I get out of tree builds, total dependency tracking, install + DESTDIR, uninstall, distclean, and a bunch of other stuff I would have otherwise worked fairly hard to achieve. There is just one thing that bothers me, greatly. The make files generated by automake depend, ever so slightly, on automake. I'll explain. When you type "make" on a project maintained by automake, one of the dependencies it checks is whether the files making up the make system itself (Makefile.am, configure.ac, etc) is newer as well. If it is, then aclocal, automake, autoconf and configure are run again. This is only mildly annoying when checking in stuff to CVS (in which case, the timestamps are not stored correctly enough, and regeneration is on a "always happen" basis). Things get really hairy when I want to build the source on another machine. If that new machine doesn't have autoconf or automake at all, the makefile knows to avoid the rebuild, and I can build the project using the existing configure script and Makefile.in files. If, heaven forbids, automake is installed on the machine, it will try to regenerate the makefiles. If, as is fairly often the case, this new makefile or autoconf is of an older variety than the one originally used, things may, and often do, fail. The question is "how do I turn off this annoying and unnecessary feature?". Couldn't find anything in the docs. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I have McGeyver question
After you install Win16^H^H32, try installing Partition Magic. Recent versions can create boot loaders which can also boot linux, provided you use the partition and not the MBR to boot it. (reconfigure lilo). Good luck! On Wednesday 02 March 2005 00:01, Kfir Lavi wrote: | I have laptop with no cdrom or floppy, and it cann't boot from lan. | Now i want to install windows 98 on one partition. | So i coppied all the install directory from the cd to the partition. | Now i have to fill the 512bytes of the partition start with a lilo or | something similar (thoght to copy freedos first 512bytes). | at the mbr i have grub. | | Now lets asume that i can start the installation of win98. | This will break my MBR. | Is there a way to make it don't step on the MBR? | Because i can't boot the comp with cdrom or floppy. | | tnx | kfir -- The difference between theory and practice, is that in theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. pgpfTXU1Y3iuQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Linux NAS like Solution
Well... Even with the ppl I have read that had loss of data due to the use of such Systems, most of it comes from racklessness & no backup. With hot swap and hot spare and I a nightly tape backup iam not that afraid from loss Of data. SATA raid has a lot of problems, a lot of BAD microcodes for HD controllers cause problems With the raid controllers. There is a none official list of those HDs in storage forums all Over. But still, I have read user comments for systems used in SMB With HW controllers such as LSI MegaRAID and 3Ware 8xxx which are working fine. The lowest good NAS solution I found was 4.5K$ , how can you compare that with a 1800$ solution with 350GB Neto ( After raid and snapshot deduction ) and I don't get University discounts Snapshots Hot spare Hot swap Power redundant And you can even spend another 250-600$ for external disk enclosure so it will be DAS like :) ( http://www.cwol.com/serial-ata/4-bay-hot-swap-raid-kit.htm ) You also have NAS os solutions like Darma OS if you dare to try http://nas.darma.com/products_home.html Or you can just compile your kernel and tune it for Network I/O and tweak the TCP to your usage -Original Message- From: Marc A. Volovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:18 PM To: Ariel Biener Cc: Baruch Shpirer; linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Re: Linux NAS like Solution Ariel Biener wrote: >Unless this $2k is absolutely critical, I suggest you go for a >supported >and full featured NAS solution. What solutions exactly are $2k more expensive >than what you propose ? None of the good ones are in that price range, and I >am talking about prices for university, which are lower than usual, and >still. > > Surprising as it is, I quite agree with Ariel. You will spend much more than US$2k implementing the solution, debugging it and (which, of course, is a good thing) you will be the sine qua non for your company. - they will never dare firing you. There are, if you wish to use a Linux-based solution, quite a few firms that do this. M To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Miguel de Icaza visiting the Middle East
Hi Ilya, If you check out the bottom of Miguel's homepage you start understanding where he stands in the palestinian - Israeli conflict (although I generally read his blog for linux/gnome related stuff the ei (electric intifada) links where pretty interesting as well. http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/ And regarding the lebenese lug ... If indeed the future will be shiny ( ;) ) maybe we can plan joint LUG meeting with the Hizbullug ! Lior. On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:09:44 +0200, Ilya Konstantinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Miguel de Icaza (the founder of the GNOME project) is touring Turkey and > Lebanon right now and has some interesting notes and photos in his blog > (and apparently, a Lebanese LUG doesn't look very much different from ours): > http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/archive/2005/Mar-10.html > http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/archive/2005/Mar-09.html > > By the way, when he first mentioned touring Turkey and the Middle East, > I've contacted him about the possibility of him visiting Israel. I had > to alleviate worries he had about Israel being some kind of police > state, where foreign citizens are detained for no reason etc. but > eventually he still preferred to visit Lebannon this time (quite a hot > time of the year in Lebanon, that's for sure) since he read a book about > the country which got him very interested. I guess he has no excuse to > skip Israel on his next visit :) > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Peace Love and Penguins - Lior Kesos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cable internet service providers
Boris Zingerman wrote: I would like to know which cable internet service providers in Israel are most Linux friendly, and which cable modems work smoothly with Linux Pretty much all cable modems supplied today have an Ethernet jack, since Windows users won't settle for USB-style speeds and responsiveness either... And once it supports Ethernet, there are no compatibility issues: you either get a PPTP dial-up-style access (with the regular Linux pptp client) or you get an address allocated via DHCP (with the regular ICS DHCP client -- in Fedora Core, that'll get you online with *no setup at all*). As to ISPs, the word "Linux" doesn't scare Netvision nor Actcom. Then again, I was positively impressed by Bezeqint recently, when I complained about high ping times and they asked me to mail them a traceroute (instead of blaming it on me repeatedly until I hang up out of frustration). = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Miguel de Icaza visiting the Middle East
Miguel de Icaza (the founder of the GNOME project) is touring Turkey and Lebanon right now and has some interesting notes and photos in his blog (and apparently, a Lebanese LUG doesn't look very much different from ours): http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/archive/2005/Mar-10.html http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/archive/2005/Mar-09.html By the way, when he first mentioned touring Turkey and the Middle East, I've contacted him about the possibility of him visiting Israel. I had to alleviate worries he had about Israel being some kind of police state, where foreign citizens are detained for no reason etc. but eventually he still preferred to visit Lebannon this time (quite a hot time of the year in Lebanon, that's for sure) since he read a book about the country which got him very interested. I guess he has no excuse to skip Israel on his next visit :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libxml2 thread safety?
Hi everyone. I'm finding contradicting (and quite outdated) info on the net about the subject: how thread-safe is libxml2? does anyone have any experience with that? I'm using it for creating xml documents, but not parsing them, using the tree module. only one thread can access a specific document object at a time, so i'm not worried there, but i have many small documents open (possibly hundreds at once), and access to them on the global level is asynchronous. should i be worried? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: imitate rar adding checksum
try to come back to cd's that you have burnt 2 years ago. It will definitly have some bad blocks. Now, i want to know that stisticly i will be able to retrive my data from the cd 2 years from now. kfir pgpZtrcAyOOwS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux NAS like Solution
Ariel Biener wrote: Unless this $2k is absolutely critical, I suggest you go for a supported and full featured NAS solution. What solutions exactly are $2k more expensive than what you propose ? None of the good ones are in that price range, and I am talking about prices for university, which are lower than usual, and still. Surprising as it is, I quite agree with Ariel. You will spend much more than US$2k implementing the solution, debugging it and (which, of course, is a good thing) you will be the sine qua non for your company. - they will never dare firing you. There are, if you wish to use a Linux-based solution, quite a few firms that do this. M = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux NAS like Solution
On Thursday 10 March 2005 11:07, Baruch Shpirer wrote: > Hi, > I have been fiddling for the last 2 weeks with idea of saving my company > more then 2000$ and making my own kind of NAS like solution via linux. > My considerations were highly to maintain the list of standard features > NAS solution hold today including snapshots (lvm2) and hotswap disk > rebuild. Hi Baruch, Unless this $2k is absolutely critical, I suggest you go for a supported and full featured NAS solution. What solutions exactly are $2k more expensive than what you propose ? None of the good ones are in that price range, and I am talking about prices for university, which are lower than usual, and still. --Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: imitate rar adding checksum
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 02:34:51PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: > Hi, > when compressing with rar you can choose to add error correcting portion ( to > %10 size ). > > How can i do it in linux? Using something like par2 or ras. Both are apt-gettable and probably easily googleable. -- Didi > > kfir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux NAS like Solution
Title: Message On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 13:55 +0200, Baruch Shpirer wrote: First of all thank you for the fast and extensive answer but i have a few more: 1. Based on your experience from both scsi and sata what would be your recommidation for me ? Depends on the type of data you looking to store. Can you elaborate? 2. Same for software/hardware raid ? 3. Have you done something that smells like NAS from the outside ? if so, what about disk/raid monitoring ? Never had to. However, consider the fact the Linux is remotely manageable by design, most NAS just use the RAID and Linux tools without changing anything. -Original Message- From: Gilboa Davara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 1:12 PM To: Baruch Shpirer Cc: linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Re: Linux NAS like Solution See inline. On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 11:07 +0200, Baruch Shpirer wrote: Hotswap can be done both in SATA and SCSI Both LSI and 3ware can do hotswap (and hotspare) SATA would be the cheap and risky solution where as SCSI is more expensive and reliable In my previous workplace we had both SCSI and SATA based storage (or actually streaming) solutions. SCSI is indeed by far more reliable; SATA drive usually had a much higher failure rate. (Including a couple of very troubling two drive death that killed the array.) Most SATA raid solutions are Soft Silicon - Software based and use the system main cpu for the raid operations , there are some HW based like 3ware. 3ware and LSI (megaraid) are both hardware solutions. *However* Tests I conducted seem to suggest that the Linux software RAID is actually faster then them both. This shouldn't surprise anyone; a fast P4/Athlon/Opteron CPU is about 30 times faster then the i8/9xx RISC controller used in the SCSI/SATA raid controllers. On a fast dual Xeon/Opteron server won't even notice the 1-2% CPU time spent on RAID5 reconstruction. ***Oh*** Make sure you do hotspare. By doing RAID5 without a hotspare you're essentially asking for it. (And it'll come...) Which seem on paper to be very good. The 3ware 7xxx and 8xxx are (very) reliable; though their write performance is less then impressive. (Read performance is OK.) The 3ware 9xxx has a much better benchmarking skills, but I'd stay clear of it for now; We had *way* too many reliability issues with this card. (3ware is working actively to fix the damaged firmware and improve the driver so YMMV.) Oh... 3ware's CLI tools are top notch; you'll be able to do most of the RAID's administration work using a simple bash script. The LSI card behaves much like it's SCSI cousin (it even uses the same driver.) One problem: LSI is miles behind 3ware when it comes to management tools. There's Adaptech and RaidCore; I've heard good things about them, but never had a chance to test them. Next is can I trust the SATA Raid controller to do real reliable Raid 5 ? Cause going for SCSI comes to a price that I rather pay for NAS 3ware 7xxx and 8xxx: Yes. 3ware 9xxx: Can't really tell right now. LSI: Yes. Did anyone see or hear about a SATA Raid controller do hotswap in linux ? Both 3ware and LSI. At times 3ware had problems detecting a replaced drive. (A bit of fancy CLI work always fixed the problem.) LSI works just fine. Iam using gentoo and gentoo forum pretty much covered the software issues, I just need to know my HW fits. BTW, you can do hotspare and hotswap in software RAID just as well. We had a SCSI software RAID solution (using a run-of-the-mill 29320 controller) and it worked just fine. (Besting the LSI MegaRAID solution by a nice margin.) Again, give it a go; while YMMV it may save you a couple of . Best regards Baruch Shpirer __ -- Gilboa Davara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nice Systems -- Gilboa Davara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nice Systems
RE: imitate rar adding checksum
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 02:34:51PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: > > Hi, > > when compressing with rar you can choose to add error correcting > > portion ( to > > %10 size ). > > File transfers are generally reliable so I don't believe > error correction should be necessary. Error detection should suffice. IIRC from communications course, only about 99.7% of the time or something like that. maybe he needs to lower the small chance of failure. :) > > > How can i do it in linux? > > rpms and debs include both an DM% and a SHA1 checksum. I'm > not aware of such a checksum in more standard archive > formats. You can add your own manually. Something in the lines of: > > find . | fgrep -v ./md5sums >md5sums > tar cvzf ../archive.tgz * But this does not allow error correction (as u surely know) so I think it does makes sense to add 10% parity checks, etc... just to allow the ability to correct small errors. For example, when writing to floppys or even DISKONKEY, they do have failures you know :) > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen | New signature for new address and | VIM is > http://tzafrir.org.il | new homepage | > a Mutt's > [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best > ICQ# 16849755 | Space reserved for other protocols | friend > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run > the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: imitate rar adding checksum
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 02:34:51PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: > Hi, > when compressing with rar you can choose to add error correcting portion ( to > %10 size ). File transfers are generally reliable so I don't believe error correction should be necessary. Error detection should suffice. > How can i do it in linux? rpms and debs include both an DM% and a SHA1 checksum. I'm not aware of such a checksum in more standard archive formats. You can add your own manually. Something in the lines of: find . | fgrep -v ./md5sums >md5sums tar cvzf ../archive.tgz * -- Tzafrir Cohen | New signature for new address and | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | new homepage | a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849755 | Space reserved for other protocols | friend = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
imitate rar adding checksum
Hi, when compressing with rar you can choose to add error correcting portion ( to %10 size ). How can i do it in linux? kfir pgpV6MkC42N3a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux NAS like Solution
Title: Linux NAS like Solution See inline. On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 11:07 +0200, Baruch Shpirer wrote: Hotswap can be done both in SATA and SCSI Both LSI and 3ware can do hotswap (and hotspare) SATA would be the cheap and risky solution where as SCSI is more expensive and reliable In my previous workplace we had both SCSI and SATA based storage (or actually streaming) solutions. SCSI is indeed by far more reliable; SATA drive usually had a much higher failure rate. (Including a couple of very troubling two drive death that killed the array.) Most SATA raid solutions are Soft Silicon - Software based and use the system main cpu for the raid operations , there are some HW based like 3ware. 3ware and LSI (megaraid) are both hardware solutions. *However* Tests I conducted seem to suggest that the Linux software RAID is actually faster then them both. This shouldn't surprise anyone; a fast P4/Athlon/Opteron CPU is about 30 times faster then the i8/9xx RISC controller used in the SCSI/SATA raid controllers. On a fast dual Xeon/Opteron server won't even notice the 1-2% CPU time spent on RAID5 reconstruction. ***Oh*** Make sure you do hotspare. By doing RAID5 without a hotspare you're essentially asking for it. (And it'll come...) Which seem on paper to be very good. The 3ware 7xxx and 8xxx are (very) reliable; though their write performance is less then impressive. (Read performance is OK.) The 3ware 9xxx has a much better benchmarking skills, but I'd stay clear of it for now; We had *way* too many reliability issues with this card. (3ware is working actively to fix the damaged firmware and improve the driver so YMMV.) Oh... 3ware's CLI tools are top notch; you'll be able to do most of the RAID's administration work using a simple bash script. The LSI card behaves much like it's SCSI cousin (it even uses the same driver.) One problem: LSI is miles behind 3ware when it comes to management tools. There's Adaptech and RaidCore; I've heard good things about them, but never had a chance to test them. Next is can I trust the SATA Raid controller to do real reliable Raid 5 ? Cause going for SCSI comes to a price that I rather pay for NAS 3ware 7xxx and 8xxx: Yes. 3ware 9xxx: Can't really tell right now. LSI: Yes. Did anyone see or hear about a SATA Raid controller do hotswap in linux ? Both 3ware and LSI. At times 3ware had problems detecting a replaced drive. (A bit of fancy CLI work always fixed the problem.) LSI works just fine. Iam using gentoo and gentoo forum pretty much covered the software issues, I just need to know my HW fits. BTW, you can do hotspare and hotswap in software RAID just as well. We had a SCSI software RAID solution (using a run-of-the-mill 29320 controller) and it worked just fine. (Besting the LSI MegaRAID solution by a nice margin.) Again, give it a go; while YMMV it may save you a couple of . Best regards Baruch Shpirer __ -- Gilboa Davara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nice Systems
Re: Israeli source of Asterisk compatible equipment?
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Does anyone know of an Israeli source of ASTERISK compatible equipment, For example: FXS or FXO cards, SIP phones. A dealer that stocks and supports them would be ok, or a wholesaler that stocks them. Dimitel is the Israeli golden reseller of Digium (FXS and FXO cards). AFAIK they also have some grandstream budgetone in stock (SIP phones): http://www.dimitel.com You can tell them I sent you - I don't think it will get you any discount by maybe it'll get ME one when I buy from them again... :-))) BTW, in a couple of days there will be some content over at http://www.asterisk.org.il too... :-) Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Codefidence. A name you can trust(tm) Web: http://codefidence.com | SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +972.9.8650475 ext. 201 | Fax: +972.9.8850643 "I am Jack's Overwritten Stack Pointer" -- Hackers Club, the movie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux NAS like Solution
Title: Linux NAS like Solution Hi, I have been fiddling for the last 2 weeks with idea of saving my company more then 2000$ and making my own kind of NAS like solution via linux. My considerations were highly to maintain the list of standard features NAS solution hold today including snapshots (lvm2) and hotswap disk rebuild. Before I eleborate my findings if anyone has done this already I would be happy to hear his/hers ideas about this subject, I will have to close this solution pretty soon. Hotswap can be done both in SATA and SCSI SATA would be the cheap and risky solution where as SCSI is more expensive and reliable Most SATA raid solutions are Soft Silicon - Software based and use the system main cpu for the raid operations , there are some HW based like 3ware Which seem on paper to be very good. Next is can I trust the SATA Raid controller to do real reliable Raid 5 ? Cause going for SCSI comes to a price that I rather pay for NAS Did anyone see or hear about a SATA Raid controller do hotswap in linux ? Iam using gentoo and gentoo forum pretty much covered the software issues, I just need to know my HW fits. Best regards Baruch Shpirer System Admin. & Softerware Engineer Provigent Ltd. 4 Shenkar St. POB 12297 Herzelia 46733, Israel Phone: +972 9 950-5434 Mobile: +972 52 600-7220 Fax: +972 9 950-5683 Web: www.provigent.com ** The information in this email is legally privileged and confidential, for the use of the intended recipient __
Re: VIm Question
Great !!! This is what i was looking for. Thanks again, Gal Alan Yaniger wrote: Hi Gal, From the VIM help: Two commands can be used to jump to diffs: [c Jump backwards to the previous start of a change. When a count is used, do it that many times. ]c Jump forwards to the next start of a change. When a count is used, do it that many times. Alan Gal Gur-Arie wrote: I meant how do i jump only between the changes. For example if i have 400 lines file. How do i jump only between the changed parts ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VIm Question
Hi Gal, From the VIM help: Two commands can be used to jump to diffs: [c Jump backwards to the previous start of a change. When a count is used, do it that many times. ]c Jump forwards to the next start of a change. When a count is used, do it that many times. Alan Gal Gur-Arie wrote: I meant how do i jump only between the changes. For example if i have 400 lines file. How do i jump only between the changed parts ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VIm Question
I didn't mean how to scroll down/up.
I meant how do i jump only between the changes.
For example if i have 400 lines file. How do i jump only between the
changed parts ?
Thanks,
Gal
Maxim Kovgan wrote:
Gal Gur-Arie wrote:
When comparing 2 files with (g)vim like:
gvim -do
Does anyone knows how i can jump between the different lines ?
up/down arrows or ('j' - down, 'k' - up) or ( '+' - down, '-' - up )
- up/down in the focused file.
Ctl+w + above options - focus on file 1 or 2
bye.
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Thanks.
Maxim Kovgan wrote:
Gal Gur-Arie wrote:
When comparing 2 files with (g)vim like:
gvim -do
Does anyone knows how i can jump between the different lines ?
up/down arrows or ('j' - down, 'k' - up) or ( '+' - down, '-' - up )
- up/down in the focused file.
Ctl+w + above options - focus on file 1 or 2
bye.
Thanks,
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Re: gimp/photoshop
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 23:14, you wrote: > > Well, the slides of my lecture about the GIMP (which are written in > > English) are available at: > > > > http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/lecture/Gimp/ > > > > Otherwise Yoni Rabkin Katzenell wrote a lecture titled "The Digital > > Darkroom with the GIMP": > > > > http://www.rabkin.co.il/~johnr/lectures/lectures.html > > > > But its slides are written in English as well. > > He reads no english so won't help he much. > Too bad. > > Note that the translation of GIMP to Hebrew is incomplete. > > What translation in Hebrew? How do I install/access it? > It is part of GIMP 2.2. To use it, you need to set the appropriate Hebrew locale environment variables, before invoking GIMP. But like I said, it is incomplete and most strings are still displayed in English. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ Knuth is not God! It took him two days to build the Roman Empire. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Israeli source of Asterisk compatible equipment?
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VIm Question
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