feisty q
i want to install drivers for my nvidia on feisty amd64 but when i try to install nvidia-glx-new, it wants to remove half of my system. any idea ? here is the log: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~-- sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: knetwalk supertux-data kpat libpopt-dev kdepim ksokoban kolf kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data pwgen krdc krec korn krfb kscd kppp libktnef1 krita-data kshisen kmoon kdeartwork-style libwxbase2.6-0 kmahjongg ksig libode0c2 ksim libkscan1 kcharselect dvd-slideshow libzvbi-common kcoloredit artsbuilder kdessh ktip cervisia libpth20 kdeartwork-theme-window knode planetpenguin-racer-data kmrml katomic kleopatra ksvg kruler kpersonalizer liblua50-dev libjasper-1.701-dev kdepim-kio-plugins kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins ktux kgoldrunner kbackgammon libdb4.3++c2kpoker atlantikdesigner dirmngr libaudiofile-dev wx2.6-headers qt3-designer ksnapshot libart-2.0-dev stellarium-data kpackage kooka kenolaba libwxbase2.6-dev libwww-ssl0 libgpg-error-dev kblackbox fb-music-high libxslt1-dev libkcal2b libboost-signals1.33.1 konqueror-nsplugins libartsc0-dev comerr-dev python-editobj kfloppy libcal3d11c2a libasound2-dev ksame libzvbi0 kpager kdeaddons-kfile-plugins libvorbis-dev kfilereplace kdeadmin-kfile-plugins quake2-data umbrello kcalc celestia-common gnubg-data kicker-applets klipper kandy konsolekalendar libqt4-core kaudiocreator kaddressbook kontact kimagemapeditor kwalletmanager kweather libkpimexchange1 ksmserver ksirc ksysguard knetworkconf librss1 klinkstatus klickety libkrb5-dev libavahi-client-dev ksayit liblcms1-dev libogg-dev kdepim-kresources dcraw kmouth kalarm klaptopdaemon kworldclock mpeglib billard-gl-data kdewebdev kmenuedit ncbi-data kregexpeditor kdegames wx2.4-headers libaspell-dev amor scantv kdeaccessibility kdict libxosd2 libcupsys2-dev ktnef khexedit ksplash kedit kbounce libalut0 korganizer kdetoys atlantik kbstate akregator tidy arts ark kcron lua50 superkaramba kview noatun-plugins ktron kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins libacl1-dev ksync libncbi6 kttsd dcoprss ksysv kwin4 libksieve0 kate-plugins kuser libboost-thread1.33.1 kfind libssl-dev kreversi kdf xmoto-data libksba8 kspaceduel libidn11-dev libtasn1-3-dev gnupg-agent kpf kbugbuster juk libkdepim1a noatun kdnssd klines libglitz1 kfaxview libsdl-console lskat knotes kgamma kviewshell kcachegrind libxml2-dev kommander libifp4 kdegames-card-data libesd0-dev libarts1-mpeglib kaddressbook-plugins libattr1-dev armagetron-common xawtv-plugins kdesdk-kfile-plugins kwifimanager kdeutils khelpcenter qt3-dev-tools kjumpingcube kdepim-kfile-plugins python-tofu kaboodle frozen-bubble-data kdeartwork-theme-icon libopencdk8-dev kdeartwork-misc kmailcvt liblzo-dev python-pyvorbis libindex0 libgcrypt11-dev libaudio-dev ksysguardd libdecoration0 liblualib50-dev ksmiletris libpoppler1-qt libkmime2 libkadm55 poxml libkleopatra1 beryl-manager kxsldbg kdesdk-kio-plugins quanta libmimelib1c2a kbattleship kiconedit kdeadmin kpilot kdesdk-scripts kasteroids kfouleggs libgpgme11 libmal1 libkgantt0 libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libraptor1 knewsticker pychecker ksnake kdelibs libtar trigger-data kdepim-wizards libkpimidentities1 kunittest libgnutls-dev kappfinder eyesapplet kdesdk-misc python-2play kdat karm kate kmail kapptemplate democracyplayer-data kdewallpapers kdelirc kscreensaver-xsavers libkdegames1 libdbus-1-dev v4l-conf kjots libmng-dev kfax secpolicy kdeartwork-emoticons libavahi-common-dev ksirtet python-cerealizer kmines kdvi kget pinentry-qt kgpg python-pyogg konquest kolourpaint fifteenapplet gpgsm gnupg2 libsdl-pango1 kmousetool kitchensync libsdl-sound1.2 libnjb5 gettext-kde kuiviewer kmag libtidy-0.99-0 libsasl2-dev kmilo libbz2-dev ktuberling ktimer quanta-data kmid kteatime python-wxversion networkstatus kdepasswd kmtrace libarts1-audiofile kodo Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed: libgl1-mesa-glx Suggested packages: nvidia-new-kernel-source The following packages will be REMOVED: abuse abuse-frabs abuse-sdl abuse-sfx acidrip amarok amarok-xine amaya amule amule-utils-gui armagetron audacity balazar beryl billard-gl blender boa-constructor briquolo bzflag cecilia celestia-glut celestia-gnome chromium chromium-data codeine compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-gtk compiz-plugins crack-attack csound democracyplayer desktop-effects devede dosbox enemylines3 enemylines7 f-spot fityk freeglut3 freeglut3-dev frozen-bubble glutg3-dev gnome-screensaver gnubg gnudoq gstreamer0.10-gl gxine horgand iaxcomm kaffeine kaffeine-xine kcontrol kde kde-amusements kde-core kde-devel kdeaddons kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-dev kdegraphics kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdesdk kipi-plugins
Re: Commercial/FOSS C++ dev env for Linux?
Hi Amos, I had the chance to help developer, which use to work with Visual Studio, start using Linux/Unix environment. My conclusions were: - Most Linux IDE use gdb as a debugger, some wrap it more user friendly and some less. - Kdevelope, DDD and Emacs plug-in are very useful for the Unix/Linux users. - From the few that I've talked with SlickEdit is good value for money, It has most of the feature you expect moving from visual studio (but I don't have any personal experience) Eclipse: - A very friendly environment and 3.2 works great for me. - It offers a variety of plug-ins which make life very easy. - you can integrate Vi/emacs or what ever as your editor. The gdb as a straightforward GUI - when trying to run in a debug mode it will open a few option choosing windows, which you can press the default OK or use it to set you multithreaded or what ever specific options you require. - There are plug-ins for most known source control - And for your specific situation it has slides which instruct you how to get started. To sum things up: moving from Visual Studio, you would probably save your worker time with SlickEdit, but if your planning to use it in the future by more then one developer and you'll have the time to learn it, Eclipse is a very good choice. Nevertheless if your worker wish to consult, please feel free to give him my details, you can find them in the bottom. Amos Shapira wrote: On 01/09/07, Yotam Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the main issue? Is it that it's impossible to work with GDB because it crashes, or is it gdb's command line interface? If the problem is the latter, then have him use a decent frontend. I use emacs's gdbsrc mode, which integrates control of the debugger with your existing code buffers. Some people use external tools, but I prefer to integrate debugging with editing. I think his main issue is that gdb is not very convenient to debug multi-threaded applications. He already has a huge learning curve to tackle just to use the Linux shell and on top of that his ACE-based application is far from trivial so adding to this having to go through reams of gdb documentation while he has a very tight deadline to deliver working code for production is just too much so something that can help him do this with the convenience of a GUI would be much appreciated. Love or hate Microsoft, last time I heard all serious programmers agreed that they did well with Visual Studio as a C++ IDE, and that's what I have to stack up against. Emacs popped to my mind too as something that I remember that many many years ago was the greatest way to use gdb, but as someone who have since switched mostly to VI and X11-based editors I suspect it'll take even myself a good few hours to start feeling comfortable again with it. How is its debugging point-and-click interface these days? --Amos -- Ravid Baruch Naali [EMAIL PROTECTED] +972 4 6732729 +972 52 5830021 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: carrer
Hi Herouth, Have you considered FLASH programming ? There is a demand, there is an established market, and it definitely requires programming skills. You could learn it in a few weeks, and I can recall you do like creating stuff for the web. Michael = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: feisty q
Hi, My guess is that the package requires some old libs and thats why it tries to downgrade your machine. I would suggest to use 1 of the options: 1. Use the official NVidia driver from NVidia's web site. 2. Grab the source package, recompile and installed the compiled package. I don't have much experience with Feisty (or for that matter, any ubuntu), but on my Fedora based machines at home, each time I had scenario like yours, I would get the SRPM, rebuild, install and be done with it. Thanks, Hetz On 02/09/07, Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i want to install drivers for my nvidia on feisty amd64 but when i try to install nvidia-glx-new, it wants to remove half of my system. any idea ? here is the log: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~-- sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: knetwalk supertux-data kpat libpopt-dev kdepim ksokoban kolf kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data pwgen krdc krec korn krfb kscd kppp libktnef1 krita-data kshisen kmoon kdeartwork-style libwxbase2.6-0 kmahjongg ksig libode0c2 ksim libkscan1 kcharselect dvd-slideshow libzvbi-common kcoloredit artsbuilder kdessh ktip cervisia libpth20 kdeartwork-theme-window knode planetpenguin-racer-data kmrml katomic kleopatra ksvg kruler kpersonalizer liblua50-dev libjasper-1.701-dev kdepim-kio-plugins kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins ktux kgoldrunner kbackgammon libdb4.3++c2 kpoker atlantikdesigner dirmngr libaudiofile-dev wx2.6-headers qt3-designer ksnapshot libart-2.0-dev stellarium-data kpackage kooka kenolaba libwxbase2.6-dev libwww-ssl0 libgpg-error-dev kblackbox fb-music-high libxslt1-dev libkcal2b libboost-signals1.33.1 konqueror-nsplugins libartsc0-dev comerr-dev python-editobj kfloppy libcal3d11c2a libasound2-dev ksame libzvbi0 kpager kdeaddons-kfile-plugins libvorbis-dev kfilereplace kdeadmin-kfile-plugins quake2-data umbrello kcalc celestia-common gnubg-data kicker-applets klipper kandy konsolekalendar libqt4-core kaudiocreator kaddressbook kontact kimagemapeditor kwalletmanager kweather libkpimexchange1 ksmserver ksirc ksysguard knetworkconf librss1 klinkstatus klickety libkrb5-dev libavahi-client-dev ksayit liblcms1-dev libogg-dev kdepim-kresources dcraw kmouth kalarm klaptopdaemon kworldclock mpeglib billard-gl-data kdewebdev kmenuedit ncbi-data kregexpeditor kdegames wx2.4-headers libaspell-dev amor scantv kdeaccessibility kdict libxosd2 libcupsys2-dev ktnef khexedit ksplash kedit kbounce libalut0 korganizer kdetoys atlantik kbstate akregator tidy arts ark kcron lua50 superkaramba kview noatun-plugins ktron kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins libacl1-dev ksync libncbi6 kttsd dcoprss ksysv kwin4 libksieve0 kate-plugins kuser libboost-thread1.33.1 kfind libssl-dev kreversi kdf xmoto-data libksba8 kspaceduel libidn11-dev libtasn1-3-dev gnupg-agent kpf kbugbuster juk libkdepim1a noatun kdnssd klines libglitz1 kfaxview libsdl-console lskat knotes kgamma kviewshell kcachegrind libxml2-dev kommander libifp4 kdegames-card-data libesd0-dev libarts1-mpeglib kaddressbook-plugins libattr1-dev armagetron-common xawtv-plugins kdesdk-kfile-plugins kwifimanager kdeutils khelpcenter qt3-dev-tools kjumpingcube kdepim-kfile-plugins python-tofu kaboodle frozen-bubble-data kdeartwork-theme-icon libopencdk8-dev kdeartwork-misc kmailcvt liblzo-dev python-pyvorbis libindex0 libgcrypt11-dev libaudio-dev ksysguardd libdecoration0 liblualib50-dev ksmiletris libpoppler1-qt libkmime2 libkadm55 poxml libkleopatra1 beryl-manager kxsldbg kdesdk-kio-plugins quanta libmimelib1c2a kbattleship kiconedit kdeadmin kpilot kdesdk-scripts kasteroids kfouleggs libgpgme11 libmal1 libkgantt0 libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libraptor1 knewsticker pychecker ksnake kdelibs libtar trigger-data kdepim-wizards libkpimidentities1 kunittest libgnutls-dev kappfinder eyesapplet kdesdk-misc python-2play kdat karm kate kmail kapptemplate democracyplayer-data kdewallpapers kdelirc kscreensaver-xsavers libkdegames1 libdbus-1-dev v4l-conf kjots libmng-dev kfax secpolicy kdeartwork-emoticons libavahi-common-dev ksirtet python-cerealizer kmines kdvi kget pinentry-qt kgpg python-pyogg konquest kolourpaint fifteenapplet gpgsm gnupg2 libsdl-pango1 kmousetool kitchensync libsdl-sound1.2 libnjb5 gettext-kde kuiviewer kmag libtidy-0.99-0 libsasl2-dev kmilo libbz2-dev ktuberling ktimer quanta-data kmid kteatime python-wxversion networkstatus kdepasswd kmtrace libarts1-audiofile kodo Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed: libgl1-mesa-glx Suggested packages: nvidia-new-kernel-source The following packages will be REMOVED: abuse abuse-frabs abuse-sdl abuse-sfx acidrip amarok amarok-xine amaya amule amule-utils-gui
Re: Commercial/FOSS C++ dev env for Linux?
Amos Shapira wrote: On 01/09/07, *Yotam Rubin* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the main issue? Is it that it's impossible to work with GDB because it crashes, or is it gdb's command line interface? If the problem is the latter, then have him use a decent frontend. I use emacs's gdbsrc mode, which integrates control of the debugger with your existing code buffers. Some people use external tools, but I prefer to integrate debugging with editing. I think his main issue is that gdb is not very convenient to debug multi-threaded applications. He already has a huge learning curve to tackle just to use the Linux shell and on top of that his ACE-based application is far from trivial so adding to this having to go through reams of gdb documentation while he has a very tight deadline to deliver working code for production is just too much so something that can help him do this with the convenience of a GUI would be much appreciated. Love or hate Microsoft, last time I heard all serious programmers agreed that they did well with Visual Studio as a C++ IDE, and that's what I have to stack up against. Use Eclipse and CDT. It's the only tool that will stack up against Visual Studio. It also has a wonderful multi-threaded debugging support. Gilad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Career advice needed
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007, Herouth Maoz wrote about Re: Career advice needed: If I decided that I'm interested in CGI, or artificial intelligence, or quantum computing, or Macintosh application programming, do you really think that a job would pop up? Obviously, you can't decide that you're interested in something... You need to convince employers that you have one or more of (with bonus points if you have more than one of them): 1. Burning desire (a passion) for the topic 2. Better than average knowledge in the topic 3. Better than average experience in the topic For example (to start with your example), I took a Quantum Computing course in the Technion. Does that make me employable in this subject? Of course not. I have no passion for this subject, I don't have much knowledge on this subject that hundreds of other Technions students don't have, and I have absolutely no experience. On the other hand, if you look at my involvement in the Hebrew linguistic world - I think I demonstrated a passion for it (not everybody writes a spell-checker for fun...) and experience (again, not everybody designed and wrote a working spell-checker and morphological analyzer). This kind of passion, knowledge and experience *is* something that you can do in 6 months, and in fact the first working version of Hspell (if you allow me to continue with this example) was ready in less than 6 months. But the first thing - passion - is kind of hard to develop (if you find a particular topic boring, it won't be easy to develop a passion for it - not in 6 months and not in a lifetime). -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Sep 2 2007, 19 Elul 5767 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |As every cat owner knows, nobody owns a http://nadav.harel.org.il |cat. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: feisty q
did you apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade before installing that package? yes
Re: Commercial/FOSS C++ dev env for Linux?
i Agree, The CDT is a great tool, it's saves development time by supporting realtime compilation. Visual Studio does not support this feature unless installing the visual assist application. -Udi. On 9/2/07, Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: On 01/09/07, *Yotam Rubin* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the main issue? Is it that it's impossible to work with GDB because it crashes, or is it gdb's command line interface? If the problem is the latter, then have him use a decent frontend. I use emacs's gdbsrc mode, which integrates control of the debugger with your existing code buffers. Some people use external tools, but I prefer to integrate debugging with editing. I think his main issue is that gdb is not very convenient to debug multi-threaded applications. He already has a huge learning curve to tackle just to use the Linux shell and on top of that his ACE-based application is far from trivial so adding to this having to go through reams of gdb documentation while he has a very tight deadline to deliver working code for production is just too much so something that can help him do this with the convenience of a GUI would be much appreciated. Love or hate Microsoft, last time I heard all serious programmers agreed that they did well with Visual Studio as a C++ IDE, and that's what I have to stack up against. Use Eclipse and CDT. It's the only tool that will stack up against Visual Studio. It also has a wonderful multi-threaded debugging support. Gilad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Udi Shamir, System Security Hacker Linux, Unix System Developer, Senior System Administrator http://sf.net/projects/dirstat http://sf.net/projects/em-module http://www.linkedin/in/udishamir +972-054-6-583337
Re: Commercial/FOSS C++ dev env for Linux?
Shamir Udi wrote: i Agree, The CDT is a great tool, it's saves development time by supporting realtime compilation. Heheh... actually, that's the first thing I turn off in a new installation of Eclipse/CDT ;-) But this is a question of taste, nothing more. Seriously, I've walked through and hand held more then 40 different code developing corporations in the last 4 years from zero Linux knowledge to developing whole products based on it. Eclipse/CDT is really your only option and it's a very good option (but Visual SlickEdit is a very close second, some would claim the first option). Tips to remember: 1. Always use the latest version stable version. 2. If something doesn't work that should, use the in program menu to look for and install updates. 3. If a functionality that your developer wants is not available by default, look for a plug in. Oh, and get a fast machine. It is a huge JAVA program after all... :-) Gilad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenMoko
Did it work in Israel? What carrier? I would like to get a GTA02 when it is out next month, but I would like to make sure that it works with Orange. See: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 Regards, Dov On 7/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the phone in my hand. It's GSM. In fact, I showed it to some of you in Jerusalem in March. Lior? Others? On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Arieh Skliarouk wrote: Would it be supported in Israel cellular providers? AFAIK it is GSM based phone. I would know for sure on next monday, when I will have access to the phone. -- Arieh = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenMoko
Hi Dov, My GTA01 did not work anywhere, so no, not Israel either, but that wasn't due to a problem with Orange. I'm visiting Israel mid-November, hopefully by then I'll have a GTA02 and I can test it with Orange. Michael On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Dov Grobgeld wrote: Did it work in Israel? What carrier? I would like to get a GTA02 when it is out next month, but I would like to make sure that it works with Orange. See: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 Regards, Dov On 7/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the phone in my hand. It's GSM. In fact, I showed it to some of you in Jerusalem in March. Lior? Others? On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Arieh Skliarouk wrote: Would it be supported in Israel cellular providers? AFAIK it is GSM based phone. I would know for sure on next monday, when I will have access to the phone. -- Arieh = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenMoko
On 09/07/07, Constantine Shulyupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenMoko is out! Who is interesting to buy it? http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/07/07/09/0049249.shtml http://www.openmoko.com/ I'd buy one if it had Hebrew support. Price not important. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ אבגדהוזחטיךכלםמןנסעףפץצקרשת
Re: Commercial/FOSS C++ dev env for Linux?
On 02/09/07, Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shamir Udi wrote: i Agree, The CDT is a great tool, it's saves development time by supporting realtime compilation. Seriously, I've walked through and hand held more then 40 different code developing corporations in the last 4 years from zero Linux knowledge to developing whole products based on it. Eclipse/CDT is really your only option and it's a very good option (but Visual SlickEdit is a very close second, some would claim the first option). Thanks for the tips and recommendations - it gives a lot of weight for CDT to hear this. Cheers, --Amos
Re: Career advice needed
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 11:43:35AM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: Obviously, you can't decide that you're interested in something... You need to convince employers that you have one or more of (with bonus points if you have more than one of them): 1. Burning desire (a passion) for the topic 2. Better than average knowledge in the topic 3. Better than average experience in the topic I don't know if that's true or not. IMHO you decide what you want to do in life and do it. Your decision may be affected by other concerns such as making a living, schools for your family, etc., so it's not just a technical decision. Sometimes as you've said, there are no jobs IN ISRAEL for certain skills. Or it may be a case of not knowing where to find them. For example, there have been Macintosh jobs here and there still are. If they are open, is another question, but the Hebrew version of the Macintosh operating system was developed here until around 2000, when it was dropped. There are two Hebrew supporting Macintosh word processing programs, one was Nisus, which was availble when I started to care about such things, in 1991, and a descendent of it is still around. They are based in California. There is also Melel, which is based in Tel Aviv. If you did not know about them, you would have never approached them. There is also a lot of offshoring done here, but most companies keep it quiet. I don't know you, except for your approximate age and that you want to be an employee (both of which were recently posted), but if you really want to get a job doing something you like, you may have to spend a few years in Silicon Valley. You then make the contacts to go work for a start up and offshore yourself. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Commercial/FOSS C++ dev env for Linux?
On 01/09/07, Marc Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya. First - SlickEdit costs US$250-450 per seat. And while it is ok as an IDE, it has quite a few limitations especially as far as debugging is concerned. From its web site I didn't see it mention debugger interface at all, actually. There are NO good integrated development environments for Linux. Slickedit, Eclipse, etc, are a reasonable set of editing tools, but very very very mediocre debugging tools. You could try TotalView and Code Insight (Debugger and Editor). TotalView is the only commercial one I found when Googl'ing for linux debugger, but the price is pretty steep: http://www.totalviewtech.com/Purchase/Storefront/TotalViewIndividual.php I'll try to give him another push to give KDevelop and CDT a go - it'll require him to install X11 on his Windows laptop and hopefully the dev server will handle the Java app. Cheers, --Amos
Re: Career advice needed
On 01/09/07, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Light aircraft license is about 10-15K NIS. Can be accomplished in a few months. Assuming you were not a pilot for the air force, your only real option is flying for Arkia. You will need to do IFR training, and conversion to bigger aircrafts, but I think the airliner sponsors that part anyways. Shachar, you should know better than that. You don't have to be an air force pilot to work for El-Al. Besides, my friend could afford the career switch (and better flying options) because he's an American citizen... But we are digressing... --Amos
Re: Commercial/FOSS C++ dev env for Linux?
Amos Shapira wrote: On 01/09/07, *Marc Volovic* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll try to give him another push to give KDevelop and CDT a go - it'll require him to install X11 on his Windows laptop and hopefully the dev server will handle the Java app. Here's a another tip: use VNC (or tight vnc, or NX or any of that sort), not X11. Gilad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenMoko
How do you define Hebrew support? Perhaps we should prepare a checklist and examine the status. Here is a partial list: 1. Support for reading Hebrew. This is probably taken care of because of Gtk's unicode support. 2. Localization of interface. List of applications? 3. Hebrew keyboard input. 4. Hebrew graffitti input. Regards, Dov On 9/2/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd buy one if it had Hebrew support. Price not important. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ אבגדהוזחטיךכלםמןנסעףפץצקרשת ��:.�˛���m� �ٚ�[h�)��)kz,���iȥ�+a����n�˛���m觶�z����w'�(�f�u�!��칻 �ޙ���)��)kz,���iȥ
Re: Career advice needed
Amos Shapira wrote: On 01/09/07, *Shachar Shemesh* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Light aircraft license is about 10-15K NIS. Can be accomplished in a few months. Assuming you were not a pilot for the air force, your only real option is flying for Arkia. You will need to do IFR training, and conversion to bigger aircrafts, but I think the airliner sponsors that part anyways. Shachar, you should know better than that. You don't have to be an air force pilot to work for El-Al. That at least used to be a requirement. I have not heard of it being lifted. Besides, my friend could afford the career switch (and better flying options) because he's an American citizen... I doubt that makes it any less boring. Helicopter pilots get better (but not great) job satisfaction (unless you work for the Israeli electricity company, flying right next to high voltage poles). The pilots that spray fields with insecticides get really interesting work, but they used to have to go through blood tests every six months to make sure they are not poisoned. The requirement was lifted only due to the fact that recent studies show that it takes about 20 years for the poisons to show up in a blood test. I'll stick to computers. Don't want to get cancer. Again But we are digressing... --Amos Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Career advice needed
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote about Re: Career advice needed: Sometimes as you've said, there are no jobs IN ISRAEL for certain skills. Which is why I think it's pointless to acquire only certain skills. I've worked in several jobs in my life, and each one of them was very different from the previous one. I never said to myself (or employers), hey, I worked on TCP/IP in my last job, so now I must find another TCP/IP job. The best way to make sure you have a job is to have a relatively wide array of skills, not just one skill. Like someone already said, being the world's finest Fortran 77 coder might not help you much to get a job (although, believe it or not, there are still companies who value this skill). I don't know you, except for your approximate age and that you want to be an employee (both of which were recently posted), but if you really want to get a job doing something you like, you may have to spend a few years in Silicon Valley. You then make the contacts to go work for a start up and offshore yourself. This advice was true 20 years ago, but I'd advise against this today (unless, of course, you want to see the world). There are plenty of computer jobs in Israel - in large companies, medium companies, and startups. Unless you insist on specializing in some very specific subject that nobody in Israel is interested in, there is simply no reason to move the the US. Heck, I even had a job offer from one of the most sought-after US employers, and rejected it, because I was so sure that I won't have a problem finding a job in Israel in the forseable future, and because I want to stay in Israel (Call me a Zionist, if you must...) -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Sep 2 2007, 19 Elul 5767 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Politics, n: from Greek, poly=many, http://nadav.harel.org.il |ticks=blood sucking parasites. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenMoko
On 02/09/07, Dov Grobgeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you define Hebrew support? Perhaps we should prepare a checklist and examine the status. Here is a partial list: 1. Support for reading Hebrew. This is probably taken care of because of Gtk's unicode support. This is a level one must. It will need fonts, too, not just unicode support. 2. Localization of interface. List of applications? Less important. 3. Hebrew keyboard input. Any type of Hebrew input is fine for the first version. An onscreen keyboard, for instance. 4. Hebrew graffitti input. Less important. I need my contacts, calendar, and SMS messages to be in Hebrew. That goes for reading and writing. The device interface is less important. I'm willing to beta test, of course, but I'm not programmer. I can host files at http://dotancohen.com as well. Better yet, I have no problem developing and maintaining a Hebrew OpenMoko website that deals with issues specific to Israel and Hebrew and Arabic language support. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- אבגדהוזחטיךכלםמןנסעףפץצקרשת
Re: OpenMoko
All these issues should be pretty straightforward to check by running the virtual image... We'll see if I'll get around to it. Unless someone beats me to it. Regards, Dov On 9/2/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02/09/07, Dov Grobgeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you define Hebrew support? Perhaps we should prepare a checklist and examine the status. Here is a partial list: 1. Support for reading Hebrew. This is probably taken care of because of Gtk's unicode support. This is a level one must. It will need fonts, too, not just unicode support. 2. Localization of interface. List of applications? Less important. 3. Hebrew keyboard input. Any type of Hebrew input is fine for the first version. An onscreen keyboard, for instance. 4. Hebrew graffitti input. Less important. I need my contacts, calendar, and SMS messages to be in Hebrew. That goes for reading and writing. The device interface is less important. I'm willing to beta test, of course, but I'm not programmer. I can host files at http://dotancohen.com as well. Better yet, I have no problem developing and maintaining a Hebrew OpenMoko website that deals with issues specific to Israel and Hebrew and Arabic language support. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- אבגדהוזחטיךכלםמןנסעףפץצקרשת
Re: Career advice needed
On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 13:32 +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: This advice was true 20 years ago, but I'd advise against this today (unless, of course, you want to see the world). There are plenty of computer jobs in Israel - in large companies, medium companies, and startups. True, a resource for computer jobs in Israel: http://www.cji.co.il/archive.htm --- Omer -- One cannot argue with a Bayesian filter. Peter Lorand Peres My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Career advice - summary
First of all, my thanks to all those who took the time to give me pointers, advice and ideas. I appreciate all of it, even if I point problems in some of the approaches. Some of you answered me off the list and some on it, and I summarize it all here. Summary: With respect to my original idea, that I will look into subjects that are currently sought after in the market, and make use of my free 6 months to specialize in one of them, there was a general agreement that kernel drivers are a hot topic suitable for such a plan. Additional areas were listed as well. Others have suggested that I should approach the problem from the other end - specialize on something I like, and then use that speciality to find an appropriate niche in the market. My foremost objection to this approach is that there are lots of interesting areas in computing, only a few of which have a chance of landing me jobs. It's a matter of forward chaining vs. backward chaining - and I think it would be more efficient to look for the most interesting out of a small list of popular subjects, than for the most popular out of a huge list of interesting areas. And I strongly disagree with the assertion that any interesting subject I pick is bound to find me a job. That sounds like a high-risk gamble at best, a mystical belief at worst. Another suggestion made was to find a company which covers both my current area of expertise (PHP and related subjects) and some other area that might catch my fancy, and that I should start at the PHP side, and work my way towards the other expertise while being employed. This is a very practical approach, though it has failed for me in the past. It's actually the best approach if I didn't have any free time at all (e.g. if I the circumstances of my quitting my job meant I had no compensation to expect). Others have suggested that I work as a freelancer, start my own business, or switch to a managerial position by taking up an MBA or similar. I bound all these approaches in one sentence because they all have the same flaw for me - I have no management talent, and find managerial jobs too stressful and never successful. Of course, this summary is for other people who may find themselves in the same situation. Thus, switching to management may be a wonderful solution for those who have the inclination. And if any of you potential company-owners wants me as his/her technical consultant, give me a call. :) Another suggestion was to look at what's available overseas. It's a reasonable suggestion, although I consider myself a Zionist. A job is not a lifetime and spending a couple of years learning a new skill abroad is not emigration. I may look into that option, but I'd like to look closer to home at first. After all, without family or friends around you to lend a hand, nor even the scant connections that I have, every risk doubles. Finally, I'd like to thank everyone who sent links to various relevant resources. Oh, and I think I'll forego becoming an airline pilot at the moment. I don't even have a car driving license, you see. :-) Thanks again, and further ideas and thoughts are still welcome Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Career advice needed
Would like to learn MBA or marketing? Languages will change one another, but economic will lasts forever. It's not 6 monthes, however. Also, not having any marketing experience would mean very base-level job for at least a number of years, I think. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Career advice needed
I want to do something new. That's why I asked what the current market demands are. I have an opportunity to change. The choice what to change to depends on what's available, and out of what's available I'm hoping to select what will seem the most interesting to me, given the time and money constraints. If you want to stay in web arena, but not deal much with LAMP anymore, you may try to go client-side - rich applications, AJAX, etc. These days I think it is becoming a real programming market. Not sure if there's easy to find such job without it being combined with design (which are two entirely different jobs, but not everybody understands it). It doesn't have to do much with Linux, though :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sendsms issues with Orange's site
Hi All For a few weeks now, I haven't been able to send SMS through orange site. I'm using Dan's latest version: 3.12beta (unofficial!): April 1, 2007 The error message I'm getting is: Error: unexpected response from Orange's site on SMS form. Does anybody have a solution for this problem ? thanks, arnon = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendsms issues with Orange's site
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 12:41:44PM -, Arnon Sharlin wrote: Hi All For a few weeks now, I haven't been able to send SMS through orange site. I'm using Dan's latest version: 3.12beta (unofficial!): April 1, 2007 The error message I'm getting is: Error: unexpected response from Orange's site on SMS form. Does anybody have a solution for this problem ? thanks, arnon It seems that in Aug 21st something has change in Orange's site. Sadly, I do not expect to have the time to update the script soon. Hopefully, since the source is out there, someone would do that for me (hint, hint). On the mean while I am using patched version of vICQ.pm to send smss via ICQ. (For months now, I did not find the time to pacage and release it) -- Dan Kenigsberghttp://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~dankenICQ 162180901 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
