Re: "all-in-one" ink printer : looking for recommendations
Hi, Thanks all for the replies. I can summarize my pearls of wisdom here: - I learned that HP has very good Linux support. With the popularity of HP in our country (like Subaru/Mazda in cars almost), I think I'll go for an HP. - HP drivers for Windows can indeed be a pain. I've heard feedback from someone I work for that their HP printer (not sure which model) drivers needed 300MB(!) of free disk space to install. That's what I call abusing, but hey - Windows users should not be surprised too much, I guess, but rather accept the verdict and follow the masses quietly... :-) . - Laser all-in-one devices are not a match for my needs. I've read that the laser color output is not as good as inkjets in photos (don't have a link/reference) and the price is much higher (around 2Knis, IIRC). Also, today's inkjets are reliable and durable enough to be trusted upon, even with relatively serious demands (in contrast to their ancestors from years ago which were not as reliable as today's models). - Looking for professional advise? Don't expect much from the seller at the store. I had a couple of conversations in Office Depot and the knowledge level of the sales person was embarrassing. Most of the times they know not much more than to repeat the specs printed on the carton boxes, and sometimes not even that. - The models I'll look into are: (all HP): 6313, 5783, 7580 (not sorted in any particular order). Thanks again for all the input! Boaz. Boaz Rymland wrote: Hi, I'm looking into buying an all-in-one printer. I'll probably go for ink printer since I don't print too much and printing color output would be useful. The required/preferred specs are: - having good printer drivers under Linux. - working scanner functionality under Linux is highly desirable. - independent fax capability - preferably a machine compact in size. - shared printing: I need to be able to print to it from windows and linux. I don't mind how this is achieved (setting linux as a printer server, network presence of the printer, etc) as long as its easy (enough) to install and maintain. - under 1000nis (will this be a problem?... at least not much more than this limit). If you can share some of your experience that would be great! Thanks, Boaz. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "all-in-one" ink printer : looking for recommendations
Hi, > - HP drivers for Windows can indeed be a pain. I've heard feedback from > someone I work for that their HP printer (not sure which model) drivers > needed 300MB(!) of free disk space to install. That's what I call > abusing, but hey - Windows users should not be surprised too much, I > guess, but rather accept the verdict and follow the masses quietly... :-) . Try 600+ :) (I used to maintain some MSI files which reduced the installer from 600 to 4-5MB [only the driver itself plus some connections to other services], until someone at HP told me to stop) > - Laser all-in-one devices are not a match for my needs. I've read that > the laser color output is not as good as inkjets in photos (don't have a > link/reference) and the price is much higher (around 2Knis, IIRC). Also, > today's inkjets are reliable and durable enough to be trusted upon, even > with relatively serious demands (in contrast to their ancestors from > years ago which were not as reliable as today's models). Depends on your needs. Going to print tons of PDF's? go with Laser. Some color stuff? Inkjet. Going to print a photo album? you're nuts if you'll do it with your printer, go to a professsional photo store and print there, it will be better AND cheaper. > - Looking for professional advise? Don't expect much from the seller at > the store. I had a couple of conversations in Office Depot and the > knowledge level of the sales person was embarrassing. Most of the times > they know not much more than to repeat the specs printed on the carton > boxes, and sometimes not even that. Correct. > - The models I'll look into are: (all HP): 6313, 5783, 7580 (not sorted > in any particular order). 7580 is really great, and if you're printing tons of stuff, it will fit, BUT, this beast weights 14.5Kg! not only that, when it prints (very fast), it makes noises and moves like M16 :) - see what Shuki Galili wrote in his review about it: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3444253,00.html 6313 is good, but if you want double side printing, you'll need to add some money to buy the optional accessory which flips the page. 5783 is pretty good, but it's model is a bit old. I'm planning also today to buy one, and I'm thinking I'll take the 6313. Thanks, Hetz -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "all-in-one" ink printer : looking for recommendations
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 09:51:15AM +0200, Boaz Rymland wrote: > - HP drivers for Windows can indeed be a pain. I've heard feedback from > someone I work for that their HP printer (not sure which model) drivers > needed 300MB(!) of free disk space to install. That's what I call > abusing, but hey - Windows users should not be surprised too much, I > guess, but rather accept the verdict and follow the masses quietly... :-) . That's not really true. The 300mb package includes all sorts of extras including scanning programs, web publishing, OCR, etc. AFAIK, you can't seperate them from just the printer drivers. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: k3b hangs system - must hard reset
On Friday 14 March 2008, Amos Shapira wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Aharon Schkolnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > Thanks to everyone for his/her suggestions. > > > > I THINK the problem was permissions on /dev/sg[01], although I have no > > idea > > how the permissions could have changed, and I sure don't see why such a > > udev? Have you fixed them manually? If so then maybe you should fix the > udev rules to prevent the change next time. I don't think that udev changes the permissions on /dev/sg0 or /dev/sg1, do you ? > > --Amos -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| [EMAIL PROTECTED] impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 8422076 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "all-in-one" ink printer : looking for recommendations
> That's not really true. The 300mb package includes all sorts of extras > including scanning programs, web publishing, OCR, etc. > > AFAIK, you can't seperate them from just the printer drivers. Actually you have basically 2 options: 1. You can download the "basic package" driver from HP's web site, it's around 70MB file (and thats "basic") 2. You can use the CD and install the driver manually without runnning the setup program (by adding printer to windows). That way it will install only the really important stuff, not more. If you're good at parsing INF files, then you can "follow the wire" and see which file the driver requires, pack them in a ZIP/RAR file and you'll have something really small with only the driver files.. Thanks, Hetz -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPv6 support in old (2.4) kernels
Hi folks,
I suppose there are some people here who for one reason or another still run
kernel 2.4 on servers or embedded systems and are willing to admit to it.
Can anyone tell me how well kernels circa 2.4.19 (or later) support the
*current* IPv6 specification? I see IPv6 support in the code (
http://lxr.linux.no/linux-old+v2.4.19/net/ipv6/) which is marked as
EXPERIMENTAL and carries warnings in the configuration, but it looks like
this is associated with some unloading bug when IPv6 is configured as a
module (http://lxr.linux.no/linux-old+v2.4.19/net/Config.in). The same
warning appears in 2.4.31 which is the last 2.4 in LXR at least.
Suppose I will be happy to compile IPv6 into the kernel (not as a module) -
I am still interested in how well 2.4 supports today's IPv6. More
specifically, after some research I have come to a conclusion that I am
interested in assessment of 2.4 support for (at least) the following:
* IPv6 (RFC2460)
* ICMPv6 (RFC 4443)
* Neighbor discovery for IPv6 (RFC2461)
* Path MTU discovery for IP6 (RFC1981)
* Address configuration - either SLAAC (RFC2462) or DHCPv6 (RFC3315)
* IPv6 addressing architecture (RFC4291)
* Scoped address architecture (RFC4007)
* Unique local IPv6 unicast addresses (RFC4193)
* Multicast listener discovery (MLD) for IPv6 (RFC2710)
Can anyone shed light on the above (any V's or X's will help, as will "don't
even think of it")? Is anyone running 2.4 in IPv6 environments? How
mature/up-to-date is the support?
If IPv6 is a requirement, does it absolutely mandate moving to
2.6.{latest,recent-enough}
or will 2.4 be possible? Is there any version of 2.4 from which IPv6 support
is markedly better than in earlier ones?
I have seen http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/ and
http://www.deepspace6.net/docs/best_ipv6_support.html, among others. It is
not clear to me how updated the info related to old kernels is. If anyone
knows that I can trust these documents that will be great.
Let's not go into the question why 2.4 is important, OK?
Thanks a lot in advance,
--
Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPv6 support in old (2.4) kernels
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Let's not go into the question why 2.4 is important, OK? Can we get into the question of why IPv6 is important? Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OFFTOPIC] How to switch to IPv6? (was: Re: IPv6 support in old (2.4) kernels)
On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 17:43 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > > > > Let's not go into the question why 2.4 is important, OK? > Can we get into the question of why IPv6 is important? Can we get into the question how can we personally switch to IPv6 right now? How to connect to our current ISPs using IPv6, and how to interoperate with legacy IPv4 Internet? --- Omer -- May the holy trinity of $_, @_ and %_ be hallowed. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFFTOPIC] How to switch to IPv6? (was: Re: IPv6 support in old (2.4) kernels)
Omer Zak wrote: Can we get into the question how can we personally switch to IPv6 right now? How to connect to our current ISPs using IPv6, and how to interoperate with legacy IPv4 Internet? Don't know about connecting to ISPs with it, but I do know a few people who are tunneling IPv6 over IPv4. This is allowing them to do cool things like have separate real-world IP addresses for all their network boxes sitting behind a NAT router. Geoff. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFFTOPIC] How to switch to IPv6? (was: Re: IPv6 support in old (2.4) kernels)
Hi, For that you don't actually need IPv6 support :) You can use Teredo - it can translate any IPv4 and of course IPv6 addresses to a IPv6 address through a broker server (there are a few on the Internet, and you can ran a private one), which can then inter-communicate. But is is S offtopic :D On Sunday 16 March 2008 18:07:58 Geoff Shang wrote: > Omer Zak wrote: > > Can we get into the question how can we personally switch to IPv6 right > > now? How to connect to our current ISPs using IPv6, and how to > > interoperate with legacy IPv4 Internet? > > Don't know about connecting to ISPs with it, but I do know a few people who > are tunneling IPv6 over IPv4. This is allowing them to do cool things like > have separate real-world IP addresses for all their network boxes sitting > behind a NAT router. > > Geoff. > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Noam Rathaus CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.beyondsecurity.com "Know that you are safe." Beyond Security Finalist for the "Red Herring 100 Global" Awards 2007 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPv6 support in old (2.4) kernels
On 3/16/08, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we get into the question of why IPv6 is important? Yes. It is a non-negotiable customer requirement. The customer is VERY important. -- Oleg. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
