Re: major packet loss at hot server

2008-03-22 Thread sara fink
nteresting indeed. I will check these machines. BTW, someone suggested
to run mtr with a higher mtu. I tried with this command:

mtr --psize 1500 google.com . With this size I get an empty screen.
Also tried with psize 800 and I also get empty screen. With psize 500
I get the path to google but then I get around 55-60% packet loss. If
I ping

ping -s 1500 google.com
PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 1500(1528) bytes of data.

--- google.com ping statistics ---
15 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 14001ms


ping -s 800 google.com
PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 800(828) bytes of data.

--- google.com ping statistics ---
12 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 11022ms



ping -s 500 google.com
PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 500(528) bytes of data.
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=236
(truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=236
(truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=236
(truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=4 ttl=236
(truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=5 ttl=236
(truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=6 ttl=236
(truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=7 ttl=236
(truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=8 ttl=236
(truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=9 ttl=236
(truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=10
ttl=236 (truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=11
ttl=236 (truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=12
ttl=236 (truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=13
ttl=236 (truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=14
ttl=236 (truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=15
ttl=236 (truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=16
ttl=236 (truncated)
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=17
ttl=236 (truncated)

--- google.com ping statistics ---
17 packets transmitted, 17 received, 0% packet loss, time 16012ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 178.251/184.751/193.826/4.534 ms

Now I know from someone who checks security at various places that
those who are using adsl, he saw something called quality of service.
When people complain, they start to put more centrals because they are
afraid to lose customers and put more centrals. The fact that you have
5MBit/s doesn't mean you get this speed if you are far away from the
nearest central.

Anyone else suffers from packet loss?


On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I use ADSL (5Mbit). My ISP: Netvision.

  It seems that they also have some serious packet drops even from my
  machine to Netvision! check this out: (problems are marked with
  arrows)

  ./mtr -c 10 -r netvision.net.il
  HOST: witch.dyndns.orgLoss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
   1. 192.168.1.1   0.0%101.3   0.9   0.7   1.4   0.3
   2. lo0.lns05.hfa.nv.net.il   0.0%10   11.4  26.6  11.4 147.4  42.5
  --  3. vl201.coresw1.hfa.nv.net.il  30.0%10   30.6  16.3  12.0
  30.6   6.4 ---
   4. po41.srvc4.hfa.nv.net.il  0.0%10   30.5  16.6  11.7  30.5   7.4
   5. ???  100.0100.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0

  ./mtr -c 10 -r www.ynet.co.il
  HOST: witch.dyndns.orgLoss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
   1. 192.168.1.1   0.0%100.8   0.9   0.7   1.4   0.2
   2. lo0.lns05.hfa.nv.net.il   0.0%10   11.5  11.6  11.3  12.1   0.2
  --  3. vl201.coresw1.hfa.nv.net.il  40.0%10   12.1  14.6  11.8
  27.1   6.1 --
   4. po41.srvc4.hfa.nv.net.il  0.0%10   11.6  12.9  11.6  17.9   2.1
   5. 212.143.162.136   0.0%10   14.2  13.2  11.4  16.3   1.6

  Hmm, I wonder if Netvision knows about this..

  Hetz



  On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:10 PM, sara fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello Everyone
  
I am having major problem with packet loss at some hot server that
sits in tel aviv. www.dnsstuff.com revealed this info.
  
I would like to know how many people suffer from this problem.
  
For this task mtr program is needed. The program can be downloaded at
http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ .
  
The description of  the program is mtr  combines  the  functionality
of the traceroute and ping programs in a single network diagnostic
tool.
  
  As mtr starts, it investigates the network connection between the
host mtr runs on and HOSTNAME.  by sending  packets  with  purposly
low  TTLs.  It  continues to send packets with low TTL, noting the
response time of the intervening routers.  This allows mtr to print
the  response  

[HAIFUX lecture] How Ethernet works - Nir Abulaffo

2008-03-22 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Next Monday, 24th of March, at 18:30 the Haifa Linux Club, will gather to
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How Ethernet works

Abstract

* What is an ip packet ? and what is not (e.g. ARP).
* Difference between tcp and udp. What is icmp,igmp.
* Terms like MTU,TTL.
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* a working environment such as a university campus. What happens
if MTU is wrong.
* How does traceroute work.
* What is a SYN attack.
* What is the difference between a switch and a router.
* What is the routing table in a computer, (a host) and what is
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