Re: Need advice LFS or buildroot - the maturity of tools ?

2008-04-28 Thread Robert Wallner
I would go with buildroot. Sometimes you may hit compilation problems,
but usually, switching to a different version of gcc, binutils or
kernel (or a different version of the buildroot itself), fixes it.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Lev Olshvang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
>  I need to make customized and small linux installation for i686 processor
> but with only 64M disk available.
>
>  I tried some automated tools from LFS site ( Linux from scratch) then
> buildroot and was stuck with errors I had not time to dig in.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Please share you experience with such tools.
>
>
>  Thanks for reading this,
>
>  Lev
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[+o+][linux-il] Google not obeying meta tags

2008-04-28 Thread Uri
[+o+]

Dear friends, linux and hackers,

not the first time I am saying this: Google.com don't obey meta tags!
They are caching the content of another website on the index of
www.speedy.net [http://www.google.com/search?q=www.speedy.net] - at
the index / snippet and link to cache, but pressing the link leads to

"Your search - cache:2_deBtIKxn4J:www.speedy.net/ www.speedy.net - did
not match any documents. "

But, on the index you can see the latest update, Here:

"Google [alpha] // 2008-04-27-07:04:01Google
*. Google is the large number 10100, that is, the digit 1 followed by
one hundred zeros (in decimal representation). The term was coined in
1920 by ...
www.speedy.net/ - 20k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this "

(current site is not working, DNS problem, need help with this (but if
you redirect to the correct IP (same as name server speedy2000.net) it
will work.)

It's very annoying that Google is caching and especially not updating
the real URL, it's a part of their conspiracy trying to control the
world's online content.

Uri
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Re: Need advice LFS or buildroot - the maturity of tools ?

2008-04-28 Thread Ori Idan
I have used buildroot few times for several targets (PowerPC and ARM) and it
seems to be a mature tool.
I never tried LFS.

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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Yedidyah Bar-David <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 08:43:24PM +0300, Lev Olshvang wrote:
> > Hi friends,
> >
> > I need to make customized and small linux installation for i686
> > processor but with only 64M disk available.
> >
> > I tried some automated tools from LFS site ( Linux from scratch) then
> > buildroot and was stuck with errors I had not time to dig in.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please share you experience with such tools.
>
> I used the output of mkinitramfs, then did some changes to it. It's
> based on busybox, which you can also use directly. You should say what
> you want to put in this 64M image - building an image that brings you to
> a root shell is not that hard, but probably not very useful.
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Re: Need advice LFS or buildroot - the maturity of tools ?

2008-04-28 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 08:43:24PM +0300, Lev Olshvang wrote:
> Hi friends,
> 
> I need to make customized and small linux installation for i686 
> processor but with only 64M disk available.
> 
> I tried some automated tools from LFS site ( Linux from scratch) then 
> buildroot and was stuck with errors I had not time to dig in.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please share you experience with such tools.

I used the output of mkinitramfs, then did some changes to it. It's
based on busybox, which you can also use directly. You should say what
you want to put in this 64M image - building an image that brings you to
a root shell is not that hard, but probably not very useful.
-- 
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Need advice LFS or buildroot - the maturity of tools ?

2008-04-28 Thread Lev Olshvang

Hi friends,

I need to make customized and small linux installation for i686 
processor but with only 64M disk available.


I tried some automated tools from LFS site ( Linux from scratch) then 
buildroot and was stuck with errors I had not time to dig in.






Please share you experience with such tools.


Thanks for reading this,

Lev

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Re: Interrups statistic - "sar" vs. "mstat"

2008-04-28 Thread Michael Tewner
Yeah - that's standard behavior to print the average since boot when
running these commands without an interval, and the first line of
output when specifying an interval.

On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 5:18 PM, Tom Rosenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have seen the same with all the *stat commands (iostat, vmstat, etc). You
> should ignore the output for the 1st interval.
>
> -tom
>
>
> On Dec 26, 2007 12:32 PM, Imri Zvik < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > I'm guessing that without an interval (or if with interval - the first
> > output), it is an average since boot.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > Vitaly
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:29 AM
> > > To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
> > > Subject: Re: Interrups statistic - "sar" vs. "mstat"
> > >
> > >  On Dec 26, 2007 10:04 AM, Vitaly Karasik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Probaly it is trivial, but I don't understand why I see different
> > > statistics regarding interrups into "mstat" and "sar" output. There is
> > > 15997 against 92 !!!
> > > > Can someone explain it?
> > > >
> > > > [root]# sar -I SUM |head
> > > > Linux 2.4.21-47.ELsmp 12/25/2007
> > > >
> > > > 12:00:01 AM INTR intr/s
> > > > 12:10:01 AM sum 15997.32
> > > >
> > > > [ root]# mpstat
> > > > Linux 2.4.21-47.ELsmp 12/25/2007
> > > >
> > > > 11:14:07 AM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait %irq %soft %idle intr/s
> > > > 11:14:07 AM all 2.40 0.00 7.41 0.05 1.97 10.78 77.39 92.36
> > > >
> > >
> > > The answer was simple - "mpstat" provides wrong interup statistics
> > > when called without "interval" parameter. I mean, "mpstat 1" is OK,
> > > but "mpstat" will tell you wrong numbers. I don't understand yet, if
> > > this a feature or a bug.
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Re: rdesktop hebrew keyboard question

2008-04-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
I thought about this solution. My problem is that I want to use on
both the ALT shift combination to change language. I wish rdesktop had
some "raw" keyboard support..

Thanks,
Hetz

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Tomer Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I'm using rdesktop 1.5.0 (latest) and I found a weird behavior:
> >
> > when using the standard en-us keyboard layout, it works ok, but trying
> > to press the hebrew DOT ("nekuda") gives "ץ". When trying the comma,
> > I'm getting "ת".
> >
> >
> >
> > Could someone shed some light about this issue?
> >
> >
>  Look for rdesktop stderr output - rdesktop can't map the Hebrew characters
> from the local system. Make sure to always use English keyboard layout at
> the host, and if the local and the remote both use alt-shift for layout
> switching, make sure the local machine active keymap stay in English.
>



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Re: rdesktop hebrew keyboard question

2008-04-28 Thread Tomer Cohen

Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:


I'm using rdesktop 1.5.0 (latest) and I found a weird behavior:

when using the standard en-us keyboard layout, it works ok, but trying
to press the hebrew DOT ("nekuda") gives "ץ". When trying the comma,
I'm getting "ת".


Could someone shed some light about this issue?
  
Look for rdesktop stderr output - rdesktop can't map the Hebrew 
characters from the local system. Make sure to always use English 
keyboard layout at the host, and if the local and the remote both use 
alt-shift for layout switching, make sure the local machine active 
keymap stay in English.


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Re: rdesktop hebrew keyboard question

2008-04-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Nope,

both the "." and the "/" gives me "ץ"
and on top of that, the Q gives me "," and the "W" gives me "." - like
the ancient old hebrew keyboard..

The "fun" part is that if I restart the rdpclient again (not always),
the keyboard behavior is going back to normal.. weird..

Thanks,
Hetz

>  According to my keyboard layout, you seem to be shifted one key left.  I
> have nekuda on "/", "ץ" on ".", and "ת" on ","
>
>  Where is your "צ"?
>
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Re: rdesktop hebrew keyboard question

2008-04-28 Thread sammy ominsky

On 28/04/2008, at 12:20, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:


when using the standard en-us keyboard layout, it works ok, but trying
to press the hebrew DOT ("nekuda") gives "ץ". When trying the comma,
I'm getting "ת".


According to my keyboard layout, you seem to be shifted one key left.   
I have nekuda on "/", "ץ" on ".", and "ת" on ","


Where is your "צ"?

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rdesktop hebrew keyboard question

2008-04-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi,

I'm using rdesktop 1.5.0 (latest) and I found a weird behavior:

when using the standard en-us keyboard layout, it works ok, but trying
to press the hebrew DOT ("nekuda") gives "ץ". When trying the comma,
I'm getting "ת".

the he keyboard layout works nice, but I cannot switch back to english
(using left alt-shift keys) and I cannot type english letters (unless
I'm using capital letters)

Could someone shed some light about this issue?

thanks,
Hetz
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Re: CentOS 5.1 read-only root

2008-04-28 Thread Amos Shapira
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Any more ideas?

Found a solution.

>From http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=11685

I noticed that I also have such errors in the boot sequence:

XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/51712
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/51744
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vif/0

So I followed the instructions there (only I did this in chroot on the
xen host, so "uname -r" had to be replaced with the explicit kernel
version). It didn't work for the later kernel (2.6.18-53.1.14.el5) but
with the older one (2.6.18-53) it allowed the guest to boot. The
actualy mkinitrd command which did the trick was:

mkinitrd --omit-scsi-modules --with=xennet --with=xenblk
--preload=xenblk /boot/initrd-2.6.18-53.el5xen.img 2.6.18-53.el5xen
(after moving aside the original initrd file).

I forced a re-install of the newer kernel (just erased it and did "yum
update") and I still get this XENBUS error but it boots fine. Go
figure.

BTW, to be able to do that from the xen host, I made a couple of scripts:

setup:
#!/bin/sh -ve
kpartx -a /dev/xen02/reece-test
vgchange -ay reecetest
mount /dev/reecetest/root /mnt/tmp
mount /dev/mapper/reece-test1 /mnt/tmp/boot/
mount -o bind /dev /mnt/tmp/dev
mount -o bind /proc /mnt/tmp/proc
mount -o bind /sys /mnt/tmp/sys

and teardown:
#!/bin/sh -ex

umount /mnt/tmp/boot/
umount /mnt/tmp/dev
umount /mnt/tmp/proc
umount /mnt/tmp/sys
umount /mnt/tmp
vgchange -an reecetest
kpartx -d /dev/xen02/reece-test

Which I plan to keep around as they are useful to do all sorts of
stuff with xen image LVM's. The LV itself (/dev/xen02/reece-test)
contains a partition table with one boot partition and another
partition with one large LV on it.

Cheers,

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