[OT] Spam Attractor

2005-02-06 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi ILUG members,
What is the best way to publicize an email address in order to attract the 
maximum amount of spam?
Regards,

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Re: [OT] Spam Attractor

2005-02-06 Thread Baruch Even
Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
Hi ILUG members,
What is the best way to publicize an email address in order to attract 
the maximum amount of spam?
Regards,
Place it on a website, send a message from that address to Usenet, it 
will take a short while for it to be picked up but you are guaranteed 
full success and lots of spam.

It worked for me without even trying hard.
You may also want to search for mail honeypot.
Baruch
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[OT] SPAM: Hakupon shel Hamdina / Ha'Luach Hainterneti

2004-02-01 Thread Alon Altman

Hi,
  The person behind these Israeli spams is Gil Dayan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from Nitzan HR (09-7671788). Use this e-mail or phone number to remove an
address or domain from his list.

  If you want to cost them some money, use this fax number instead:
09-7671787.

  Alon

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Re: [OT] SPAM: Hakupon shel Hamdina / Ha'Luach Hainterneti

2004-02-01 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
I think we all should complain infront of the ISP about this spam

I already forwarded this mail to spamcop

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 Hi,
   The person behind these Israeli spams is Gil Dayan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 from Nitzan HR (09-7671788). Use this e-mail or phone number to remove an
 address or domain from his list.

   If you want to cost them some money, use this fax number instead:
 09-7671787.

   Alon

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RE: [OT] SPAM: Hakupon shel Hamdina / Ha'Luach Hainterneti

2004-02-01 Thread Arik Baratz

I complained to both 012 (where the mail came from) and BezeqInt (where they host 
their site which serves the images).

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To: Alon Altman; Linux-IL
Subject: Re: [OT] SPAM: Hakupon shel Hamdina / Ha'Luach Hainterneti


I think we all should complain infront of the ISP about this spam

I already forwarded this mail to spamcop

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   The person behind these Israeli spams is Gil Dayan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 from Nitzan HR (09-7671788). Use this e-mail or phone number to remove an
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   If you want to cost them some money, use this fax number instead:
 09-7671787.

   Alon

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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-30 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Shachar Shemesh wrote:

In any case, we can check that out. Evgeny, can you please manually 
change one of my email addresses in the archive on plasma-gate to 
something else (I'm emailing it to you in private).
?? All email addresses in the archives are automatically converted to 
someone(at-nospam)somewhere (see e.g. 
http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/maillists/03/11/msg00800.html), so I 
don't think it's been harvested; not directly, at least.

Regards,

Evgeny

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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-29 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote about Re: [OT?] SPAM:
 The problem is not that spammers subscribe to this list. The problem are 
 the web archives.

You might be surprised, but in addition to what you said, spammers
actually *do* try to subscribe to mailing list and find addresses of
active subscribers. In fact I think it's what they're after, because
I never saw a spammer actually posting to a mailing list after subscribing.

How do they know which mailing lists to subscribe to? The spammers I
saw simply asked the majordomo account of an arbitrary computer for a
list of mailing lists it carries, and then for each of those it subscribed,
and also asked for the subscriber list. Many Majordomo servers are configured
to allow these actions. Similar issues might exist on other mailing list
servers as well, but I didn't personally see them.

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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Nadav Har'El wrote:

On Fri, Nov 28, 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote about Re: [OT?] SPAM:
 

The problem is not that spammers subscribe to this list. The problem are 
the web archives.
   

You might be surprised, but in addition to what you said, spammers
actually *do* try to subscribe to mailing list and find addresses of
active subscribers. In fact I think it's what they're after, because
I never saw a spammer actually posting to a mailing list after subscribing.
How do they know which mailing lists to subscribe to? The spammers I
saw simply asked the majordomo account of an arbitrary computer for a
list of mailing lists it carries, and then for each of those it subscribed,
and also asked for the subscriber list. Many Majordomo servers are configured
to allow these actions. Similar issues might exist on other mailing list
servers as well, but I didn't personally see them.
 

Maybe you are right about major-domo. I have not exeprienced the thing 
myself, partially due to the fact that I use mostly ezmlm for my mailing 
lists, and they don't have a mailing list server. They also don't 
support sending out the subscriber's list out of the box.

In any case, we can check that out. Evgeny, can you please manually 
change one of my email addresses in the archive on plasma-gate to 
something else (I'm emailing it to you in private). We'll see whether 
that is, indeed, the case.

Also, I'll note that I just searched my spam folder. I got 1 email (over 
the period the folder covers) for my linux-il address. I am also 
subscribed to the wine-devel mailing list. At some point they introduced 
spam-protection on the web archives. At some point, I changed my email 
address. I can try and see what happened first. The new address, 
however, is there since april (which means I was on the list about equal 
time with the new and the old addresses).

In any case, I got 8 spams to my new address, and 66 spams to my old 
address. My spam folder was deleted about a month ago, so this can't be 
attributed to old spams received before the change of email.

In short, while I'm sure you are right, Nadav, this does not seem to be 
the main thing to spammer's address harvesting.

Shachar

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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-28 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Amichai Rotman wrote:

On Tuesday 25 November 2003 20:49, Kfir Lavi wrote:
 

When you post to a public list, the spammers will see your email and
...
   

Could we install a filter on the IGLU site / mail server / Plone to 
convert all e-mail addresses to someone at somewhere (like they do on 
Slashdot...

It might be too late for whoever´s on the list, but...

 

The problem is not that spammers subscribe to this list. The problem are 
the web archives.

At least the one on Hamakor's servers does that already 
(http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/)

 Shachar

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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-27 Thread Amichai Rotman
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 20:49, Kfir Lavi wrote:
 When you post to a public list, the spammers will see your email and
 ...

Could we install a filter on the IGLU site / mail server / Plone to 
convert all e-mail addresses to someone at somewhere (like they do on 
Slashdot...

It might be too late for whoevers on the list, but...

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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 10:08:51PM +0200, Shachar Tal wrote:

 Out of the box it does excellent job 
 when it comes to form and format classification (HTML, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.), but without training it to *your* ham and 
 spam, it's not too good.

How well does SpamAssasin deal with Hebrew mail?

E.g: A Hebrew subject is often treated as yelling. Maybe bacause it is
quoted-printable?

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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-26 Thread Shachar Tal
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 10:08:51PM +0200, Shachar Tal wrote:

 

Out of the box it does excellent job 
when it comes to form and format classification (HTML, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.), but without training it to *your* ham and 
spam, it's not too good.
   

How well does SpamAssasin deal with Hebrew mail?

E.g: A Hebrew subject is often treated as yelling. Maybe bacause it is
quoted-printable?
 

I do not receive much Hebrew mail, and anyway most of it is spam from 
various companies. Family and friends occasionally send me Hewbew mail, 
but when they do, SA treat their email address virtually as 
white-listed, since all mail messages from those addresses is taught to 
be ham.

Shachar.



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[OT?] SPAM

2003-11-25 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi All,

I am too tiered of getting more and more SPAM by e-mail.

is there some DB I can submit my e-mail address to, and it will 
unsubscribe me from all known SPAMers?

I know this could work the other way, but even after I disabled coockies 
and am willing to live with the constant nag of the sites, I am 
creating more and more filters for what seems to be th  e same sh*t !!

Any ideas / websites / tools / RTFMs...?

Thanks,

The mighty frustrated,

Amichai.


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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-25 Thread Orna Agmon
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Amichai Rotman wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am too tiered of getting more and more SPAM by e-mail.

 is there some DB I can submit my e-mail address to, and it will
 unsubscribe me from all known SPAMers?

 I know this could work the other way, but even after I disabled coockies
 and am willing to live with the constant nag of the sites, I am
 creating more and more filters for what seems to be th  e same sh*t !!

 Any ideas / websites / tools / RTFMs...?

 Thanks,

 The mighty frustrated,

 Amichai.

I think this is a good time to mention that in the first regular Haifux
lecture of the season, Aviram Jenik will talk about SPAM. The lecture will
take place on Monday 15/12/2003, in Taub 3 (floor 1), Technion.

Orna.

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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-25 Thread Kfir Lavi
I use SpamAssassin for blocking spam, with much success. I get less than 
1 spam a week, with about 200 spam blocked daily and 200 legitimate 
messages received correctly.

I use Mozilla and it has a spam filter, until now it works fine, but i 
get ~5 spam mails a day.
AFAIK SpamAssassin is the best way to treat the problem.
I think you can turn on your cookies, i don't think this is your problem.
When you post to a public list, the spammers will see your email and ...

Regards,
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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-25 Thread Shachar Tal
Yuval Aviel wrote:

Shachar,

I also use spamassassin, but the success rate is much lower.
Maybe you can share your .spamassassin/user_prefs with us?

This is my user_prefs:

required_hits3

That's it.
Oh, and I trained SA with a ~16000 message corpus, ~2000 of which were 
ham, ~14000 were spam.
You *did* train it, didn't you? Out of the box it does excellent job 
when it comes to form and format classification (HTML, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.), but without training it to *your* ham and 
spam, it's not too good.

man sa-learn is your friend :)

Shachar.



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Telux Wine lecture (was Re: [OT?] SPAM)

2003-11-25 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Orna Agmon wrote:

I think this is a good time to mention that in the first regular Haifux
lecture of the season, Aviram Jenik will talk about SPAM. The lecture will
take place on Monday 15/12/2003, in Taub 3 (floor 1), Technion.
Orna.
 

Ok, I'll take the free associations one step forward. Next Sunday 
(30/11), I'll be giving a lecture about Wine in Telux 
(http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/). The Telux advanced lectures ahead are:
14/12 - PHP, Lior Kaplan
28/12 - The advantages of teaching people to hack, Aviram Jenik
11/1 - Embedded Linux, Gilad Ben-Yossef

Some of these lectures bear similar names to lectures given in the past 
at Haifux. However, you will find the quality of a good lecture is that 
it improves over time. So, if you are interested in hearing these 
lectures, please feel free to drop at the Tel Aviv University next 
Sunday (and every other Sunday after that one). 6:30pm. Shreiber building.

More importantly, if you want to give a lecture, please either mail the 
address on the site, or subscribe to the telux mailing list - send empty 
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Shachar

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Re: Telux Wine lecture (was Re: [OT?] SPAM)

2003-11-25 Thread Behdad Esfahbod

Are there slides in English published anywhere?

behdad

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

 Orna Agmon wrote:

 I think this is a good time to mention that in the first regular Haifux
 lecture of the season, Aviram Jenik will talk about SPAM. The lecture will
 take place on Monday 15/12/2003, in Taub 3 (floor 1), Technion.
 
 Orna.
 
 
 Ok, I'll take the free associations one step forward. Next Sunday
 (30/11), I'll be giving a lecture about Wine in Telux
 (http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/). The Telux advanced lectures ahead are:
 14/12 - PHP, Lior Kaplan
 28/12 - The advantages of teaching people to hack, Aviram Jenik
 11/1 - Embedded Linux, Gilad Ben-Yossef

 Some of these lectures bear similar names to lectures given in the past
 at Haifux. However, you will find the quality of a good lecture is that
 it improves over time. So, if you are interested in hearing these
 lectures, please feel free to drop at the Tel Aviv University next
 Sunday (and every other Sunday after that one). 6:30pm. Shreiber building.

 More importantly, if you want to give a lecture, please either mail the
 address on the site, or subscribe to the telux mailing list - send empty
 mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Shachar



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Re: Telux Wine lecture (was Re: [OT?] SPAM)

2003-11-25 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 23:23, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
 Are there slides in English published anywhere?


What?! You mean prepare the slides more than 24 hours before the lecture? That 
would break the tradition.

The slides will probably be available after the lectures, at:
http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/
(click on advanced lectures on the right menu and you'll get an English page 
with the lecture date  time and links to the slides).

Of course, the only lecture slides there are from past lectures (except for 
Lior's PHP2 lecture, but I'm sure he's got a good explanation for that).

 behdad


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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-25 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 20:19, Orna Agmon wrote:

 I think this is a good time to mention that in the first regular Haifux
 lecture of the season, Aviram Jenik will talk about SPAM. The lecture will
 take place on Monday 15/12/2003, in Taub 3 (floor 1), Technion.


And at the risk of sounding like a slim fast commercial, the lecture will 
explain how I was able to get from over 1,000(!) spam messages a day to 
around 5 a day in my inbox today (and all this time I almost never felt 
hungry).

- Aviram


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Re: Telux Wine lecture (was Re: [OT?] SPAM)

2003-11-25 Thread Aaron
What language are these lectures in???

Thanks
Aaron
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 22:10, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
 Orna Agmon wrote:
 
 I think this is a good time to mention that in the first regular Haifux
 lecture of the season, Aviram Jenik will talk about SPAM. The lecture will
 take place on Monday 15/12/2003, in Taub 3 (floor 1), Technion.
 
 Orna.
   
 
 Ok, I'll take the free associations one step forward. Next Sunday 
 (30/11), I'll be giving a lecture about Wine in Telux 
 (http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/). The Telux advanced lectures ahead are:
 14/12 - PHP, Lior Kaplan
 28/12 - The advantages of teaching people to hack, Aviram Jenik
 11/1 - Embedded Linux, Gilad Ben-Yossef
 
 Some of these lectures bear similar names to lectures given in the past 
 at Haifux. However, you will find the quality of a good lecture is that 
 it improves over time. So, if you are interested in hearing these 
 lectures, please feel free to drop at the Tel Aviv University next 
 Sunday (and every other Sunday after that one). 6:30pm. Shreiber building.
 
 More importantly, if you want to give a lecture, please either mail the 
 address on the site, or subscribe to the telux mailing list - send empty 
 mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Shachar


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Re: Telux Wine lecture (was Re: [OT?] SPAM)

2003-11-25 Thread Orna Agmon
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Aaron wrote:

 What language are these lectures in???

Haifux lectures are in Hebrew, though the slides may be in English. I
believe Telux lectures behave similarly.

Orna.

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