Re: DHCP internet connection - HOT+BEZEQINT - Not getting IP

2010-11-23 Thread Kfir Lavi
2010/11/23 Ron Varburg linux...@hotmail.com


 On Sun, Nov 22, 2010 at 13:05, Kfir Lavi wrote:

  Do any one of you knows what can cause this problem at Hot servers ?

 I am not sure I managed to follow:

 1. When HOT assigns you to without a dialer, you get a real IP.
  In the 84/8 range.

 2. When you are assigned to a dialer, you get something in the 172/8

 range.

 Did I missed something so far?

Nope, you are right.





 I think that this is how it should work. So the problem is on your side.
  HOT + ISP are fine.

What you didn't get is that it suddenly stops sending me IP.
Then I call HOT and they need to reset (move to dialer, then move to dhcp),
and then my computer will get an IP.
Why it is my problem?

Kfir
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Re: DHCP internet connection - HOT+BEZEQINT - Not getting IP

2010-11-23 Thread sara fink
 What you didn't get is that it suddenly stops sending me IP.
 Then I call HOT and they need to reset (move to dialer, then move to dhcp),
 and then my computer will get an IP.
 Why it is my problem?


Unfortunately, that's how HOT work. They always blame the costumer. Either
virus or the magic sentence something  is blocking your internet. They
will never admit they have a problem on their side. I believe you have to
open your mouth.

Realistically, there are some routers that don't work well with hot. linksys
for example. Try to launch wireshark and see what happens during the dhcp
process.



 Kfir

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Re: DHCP internet connection - HOT+BEZEQINT - Not getting IP

2010-11-23 Thread geoffrey mendelson


On Nov 23, 2010, at 4:21 PM, sara fink wrote:




Unfortunately, that's how HOT work. They always blame the costumer.  
Either virus or the magic sentence something  is blocking your  
internet. They will never admit they have a problem on their side.  
I believe you have to open your mouth.




The problem is that MPLS (what is mistakenly called DHCP as ALL hot  
connections use DHCP), is broken. Sometimes it works, sometimes it  
does not.


IMHO you are much better off buying a router. I use on my HOT  
connection a 99 NIS TP-LINK router from Ivory. I use a PPTP tunnel to  
Netvision without a problem.


Geoff.
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Re: DHCP internet connection - HOT+BEZEQINT - Not getting IP

2010-11-23 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:37 PM, geoffrey mendelson 
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Nov 23, 2010, at 4:21 PM, sara fink wrote:



 Unfortunately, that's how HOT work. They always blame the costumer. Either
 virus or the magic sentence something  is blocking your internet. They
 will never admit they have a problem on their side. I believe you have to
 open your mouth.


 The problem is that MPLS (what is mistakenly called DHCP as ALL hot
 connections use DHCP), is broken. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.


Yep you are right. It is MPLS, and at HOT they said MPLS. I just didn't
remembered the term. tnx
I'll give it a try for a while and see.
I'll also try to post the tcpdump log, just to search for clues.



 IMHO you are much better off buying a router. I use on my HOT connection a
 99 NIS TP-LINK router from Ivory. I use a PPTP tunnel to Netvision without a
 problem.

 Geoff.
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Re: DHCP internet connection - HOT+BEZEQINT - Not getting IP

2010-11-22 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote:

 The last time I didn't get IP through DHCP, it was because the settings at
 HOT were reset to dailer connection.
 A quick call to the ISP and HOT solved the problem.

 Kaplan

 2010/11/21 Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com



 On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a very simple setup.
 My router (Regular PC box) running DHCP client to get IP from the
 provider.
 I don't need dialer for connecting.
 This setup did work for the past half a year.
 Two weeks ago in Friday night, my server stopped receiving IP address.
 Running tcpdump shows a lot of traffice on the network of HOT. I see
 people sending requests and getting dhcp replays.
 I also see connections of bittorent that where active trying to reach my
 computer.
 After one hour fighting with HOT representative, she told me, hey you got
 an IP.
 Well, I did.

 One thing is, I called HOT on Sunday, and when talking to them, I got an
 IP address. So all weekend without Internet.

 Now this Friday morning the same thing happened. No IP is offered to me.
 I can see my computer sending requests, but no replays are sent to me.
 I asked them to check that they get my requests, but they don't want to
 do that.

 Again, all weekend no Internet, and still no IP offered at this time of
 writing



 Does someone knows why this can happen?
 My guess is that they ran out of IP's, or there is a blocking software on
 the DHCP server which blacks my MAC. (Oh, I didn't change my MAC address for
 checking. I'll do it tonight. )
 My download rate is 300kb, so its very low package, and and it doesn't
 seem to be a bandwidth problem.

 What is going there behind the seen with this DHCP server ?
 Can it be my fault?
 I have the white Motorola modem.

 Today at night a representative of HOT should call me when I'm back home
 to . (CLOSE, RESTART... etc... What ?!?! its not windows?? How come you
 don't have start button? well, what can you do.)

 Thanks,
 Kfir



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 Ok,
Talking today to Bezeqint, they just said I need to contact Hot.
Well Yesterday Hot didn't want to solve this problem for me.
Today the representative of Bezeqint called Hot, and a very good tech guy
answered.
He without to many questions tried to change my connection to dialer, so my
computer will take IP 172...
Then he changed it to without dialer and my computer did take 84... IP.
I have left my dhcp service restarting in a loop every 1 minute. Hope this
will not cause a problem today.

So the solution was:
Reset my connection to dialer, then reset it back to DHCP connection.

After that the representative saw that last week she did the same thing,
which solved the problem.
Now the question is why this happens?
At Hot he said that he will call the sysadmins that responsible for this
server. Hope he will do that.

Do any one of you knows what can cause this problem at Hot servers ?

Regards,
Kfir
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DHCP internet connection - HOT+BEZEQINT - Not getting IP

2010-11-21 Thread Kfir Lavi
Hi,
I have a very simple setup.
My router (Regular PC box) running DHCP client to get IP from the provider.
I don't need dialer for connecting.
This setup did work for the past half a year.
Two weeks ago in Friday night, my server stopped receiving IP address.
Running tcpdump shows a lot of traffice on the network of HOT. I see people
sending requests and getting dhcp replays.
I also see connections of bittorent that where active trying to reach my
computer.
After one hour fighting with HOT representative, she told me, hey you got an
IP.
Well, I did.
Now this Friday morning the same thing happened. No IP is offered to me.
I can see my computer sending requests, but no replays are sent to me.
I asked them to check that they get my requests, but they don't want to do
that.

Does someone knows why this can happen?
My guess is that they ran out of IP's, or there is a blocking software on
the DHCP server which blacks my MAC. (Oh, I didn't change my MAC address for
checking. I'll do it tonight. )
My download rate is 300kb, so its very low package, and and it doesn't seem
to be a bandwidth problem.

What is going there behind the seen with this DHCP server ?
Can it be my fault?
I have the white Motorola modem.

Today at night a representative of HOT should call me when I'm back home to
. (CLOSE, RESTART... etc... What ?!?! its not windows?? How come you
don't have start button? well, what can you do.)

Thanks,
Kfir
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Re: DHCP internet connection - HOT+BEZEQINT - Not getting IP

2010-11-21 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a very simple setup.
 My router (Regular PC box) running DHCP client to get IP from the provider.

 I don't need dialer for connecting.
 This setup did work for the past half a year.
 Two weeks ago in Friday night, my server stopped receiving IP address.
 Running tcpdump shows a lot of traffice on the network of HOT. I see people
 sending requests and getting dhcp replays.
 I also see connections of bittorent that where active trying to reach my
 computer.
 After one hour fighting with HOT representative, she told me, hey you got
 an IP.
 Well, I did.

One thing is, I called HOT on Sunday, and when talking to them, I got an IP
address. So all weekend without Internet.

Now this Friday morning the same thing happened. No IP is offered to me.
 I can see my computer sending requests, but no replays are sent to me.
 I asked them to check that they get my requests, but they don't want to do
 that.

Again, all weekend no Internet, and still no IP offered at this time of
writing



 Does someone knows why this can happen?
 My guess is that they ran out of IP's, or there is a blocking software on
 the DHCP server which blacks my MAC. (Oh, I didn't change my MAC address for
 checking. I'll do it tonight. )
 My download rate is 300kb, so its very low package, and and it doesn't seem
 to be a bandwidth problem.

 What is going there behind the seen with this DHCP server ?
 Can it be my fault?
 I have the white Motorola modem.

 Today at night a representative of HOT should call me when I'm back home to
 . (CLOSE, RESTART... etc... What ?!?! its not windows?? How come you
 don't have start button? well, what can you do.)

 Thanks,
 Kfir

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Re: DHCP internet connection - HOT+BEZEQINT - Not getting IP

2010-11-21 Thread Lior Kaplan
The last time I didn't get IP through DHCP, it was because the settings at
HOT were reset to dailer connection.
A quick call to the ISP and HOT solved the problem.

Kaplan

2010/11/21 Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com



 On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a very simple setup.
 My router (Regular PC box) running DHCP client to get IP from the
 provider.
 I don't need dialer for connecting.
 This setup did work for the past half a year.
 Two weeks ago in Friday night, my server stopped receiving IP address.
 Running tcpdump shows a lot of traffice on the network of HOT. I see
 people sending requests and getting dhcp replays.
 I also see connections of bittorent that where active trying to reach my
 computer.
 After one hour fighting with HOT representative, she told me, hey you got
 an IP.
 Well, I did.

 One thing is, I called HOT on Sunday, and when talking to them, I got an IP
 address. So all weekend without Internet.

 Now this Friday morning the same thing happened. No IP is offered to me.
 I can see my computer sending requests, but no replays are sent to me.
 I asked them to check that they get my requests, but they don't want to do
 that.

 Again, all weekend no Internet, and still no IP offered at this time of
 writing



 Does someone knows why this can happen?
 My guess is that they ran out of IP's, or there is a blocking software on
 the DHCP server which blacks my MAC. (Oh, I didn't change my MAC address for
 checking. I'll do it tonight. )
 My download rate is 300kb, so its very low package, and and it doesn't
 seem to be a bandwidth problem.

 What is going there behind the seen with this DHCP server ?
 Can it be my fault?
 I have the white Motorola modem.

 Today at night a representative of HOT should call me when I'm back home
 to . (CLOSE, RESTART... etc... What ?!?! its not windows?? How come you
 don't have start button? well, what can you do.)

 Thanks,
 Kfir



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