Re: MCTIP computer technician course
These certifications by themselves are only an advantage if you plan to work as technical support/helpdesk when you are done with the army. That is to say, you won't _learn_ much from the courses themselves, real-workplaces environment is entirely different than what is required for you to memorize to pass these tests and does not imply any explicit knowledge dealing with complex computer networking. The level of these courses is way beneath what is really important for a techie-person to know. Real knowledge is experience and you tinkering with stuff on your own free time, developing a sense for what's really going on behind things. These can show up in formal interviews not the ones you usually get to through human-resources. 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com: I prefer to choose this course, at least now, because it will give me a useful profession, and I finish it before the beginning of my military service. In addition, after the military service I can work as a computer technician, and to finance my studies in CS Course on Linux can be a gift to me, if I sign up computer technician course. amichay בתאריך 20 בפברואר 2011 09:36, מאת Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com: I can't comment on the MCTIP course, but I think there're cheaper Linux courses. Kaplan 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com Hi, I consider these days to start learning computer technician course. This course is MCTIP by Microsoft, + free Linux course. Total of 252 + 64 hours, + Microsoft and LPIC 1 + 2 exams. The price is 11,700, including everything. Do you have any idea whether I should study the course? You know what the price range for similar courses? Any advice? Thanks, Amichay -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: MCTIP computer technician course
Hi, There are video courses for MCITP which would cost you a lot less and you can learn at home at your free time. Those MCITP certificates aren't worth anything anyway - when someone wants to hire you, he would like to check your experience, not your certificates. Hetz 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com I prefer to choose this course, at least now, because it will give me a useful profession, and I finish it before the beginning of my military service. In addition, after the military service I can work as a computer technician, and to finance my studies in CS Course on Linux can be a gift to me, if I sign up computer technician course. amichay בתאריך 20 בפברואר 2011 09:36, מאת Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com: I can't comment on the MCTIP course, but I think there're cheaper Linux courses. Kaplan 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com Hi, I consider these days to start learning computer technician course. This course is MCTIP by Microsoft, + free Linux course. Total of 252 + 64 hours, + Microsoft and LPIC 1 + 2 exams. The price is 11,700, including everything. Do you have any idea whether I should study the course? You know what the price range for similar courses? Any advice? Thanks, Amichay -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- *חץ בן חמו חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) *השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים *קטנים* בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz http://www.hetz.biz/ ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: MCTIP computer technician course
On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: There are video courses for MCITP which would cost you a lot less and you can learn at home at your free time. Those MCITP certificates aren't worth anything anyway - when someone wants to hire you, he would like to check your experience, not your certificates. It depends, if your resume is being screened by a hiring manager, it is unlikely that they will pay attention to your certificates. If it is being screened by a clueless person in personel, that is one of the first things they look for. So if you were for example, to send your resume to one of the people here who post that they are starting a startup, or work for a large company and need someone to work for/with them, then the certificates are not going to mean anything. If you were going to send your resume, blindly to personel at the same large company, the certificates will get you first consideration, or not just thrown in the trash. There are places that desire them, such as body shops, and schools. Having an MCITP certificate might get you a job teaching at one of those schools. My son, who is a published expert in his field, does not have a CS degree, and his employer, a body shop, keeps pushing him to get an MCITP because there is no certificate in his field, and it looks good on a resume when they are shoping him around. An MS or PhD would look better, but they would require real work and expense. He's waiting until they agree to pay for the classes and tests. Note that these things go bad with old age. The hot certificate 10 years ago, an MCSE is worthless now, and in 5-10 years an MCITP will be too. You will have to start over again if you want to be certified. IMHO if you want to go to a class and make some money out of the army, go to cooking school, or take a course to get a license as an electrician, plumber (instalator) or gas fitter. Those you can use to get work right away and pay fairly well, and you can work nights while you go to school during the day. On the other hand, if you want something less involved, study for and get an amateur radio license. They you can get in contact and make friends with people in various companies and business that will respect your ability to study, learn, and communicate, which will open more doors than a few letters after your name on a resume. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Haifux] MCTIP computer technician course
On Sunday, 20 בFebruary 2011 09:47:49 amichay p. k. wrote: I prefer to choose this course, at least now, because it will give me a useful profession, and I finish it before the beginning of my military service. In addition, after the military service I can work as a computer technician, and to finance my studies in CS Unless you practice this stuff *during* the army service, it would be gone by the time you finish army: - You'll forget most of it. - A lot of the material would be obsolete (we are talking about technician level hands-on type of knowledge). So a very focused and expensive training at this stage is investing a lot of resource with verry little benefit (unless you somehow practise this knowledge during army service) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron write your own operating system. It has worked every time for me -- Linus Thorvalds ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
MCTIP computer technician course
Hi, I consider these days to start learning computer technician course. This course is MCTIP by Microsoft, + free Linux course. Total of 252 + 64 hours, + Microsoft and LPIC 1 + 2 exams. The price is 11,700, including everything. Do you have any idea whether I should study the course? You know what the price range for similar courses? Any advice? Thanks, Amichay -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: MCTIP computer technician course
I can't comment on the MCTIP course, but I think there're cheaper Linux courses. Kaplan 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com Hi, I consider these days to start learning computer technician course. This course is MCTIP by Microsoft, + free Linux course. Total of 252 + 64 hours, + Microsoft and LPIC 1 + 2 exams. The price is 11,700, including everything. Do you have any idea whether I should study the course? You know what the price range for similar courses? Any advice? Thanks, Amichay -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: MCTIP computer technician course
I prefer to choose this course, at least now, because it will give me a useful profession, and I finish it before the beginning of my military service. In addition, after the military service I can work as a computer technician, and to finance my studies in CS Course on Linux can be a gift to me, if I sign up computer technician course . amichay בתאריך 20 בפברואר 2011 09:36, מאת Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com: I can't comment on the MCTIP course, but I think there're cheaper Linux courses. Kaplan 2011/2/20 amichay p. k. am1chay@gmail.com Hi, I consider these days to start learning computer technician course. This course is MCTIP by Microsoft, + free Linux course. Total of 252 + 64 hours, + Microsoft and LPIC 1 + 2 exams. The price is 11,700, including everything. Do you have any idea whether I should study the course? You know what the price range for similar courses? Any advice? Thanks, Amichay -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control Bruce Schneier ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
