Re: OT: Digital TV decoder USB sticks

2009-09-27 Thread Boaz Rymland
trying to answer your mail below i noticed that indeed my reply has 
little relevance to linux-il so i'll add my words below...



geoffrey mendelson wrote:



On Sep 27, 2009, at 12:17 AM, Boaz Rymland wrote:


Just wanted to update that although the dongle supposed to be 
working, it fails to find any channels:
- drivers are loaded when its pushed into the USB socket. devices are 
appearing under /dev/dvb (IIRC) (tried also chmoding them to 777).
- kaffeine appears to communicate with the dongle ok and when combing 
the frequency scale I do see some high signals along the scan (tried 
to use auto area mode, NZ, and several IL suggested configurations 
as well).

- vlc method described in this thread is not showing any video as well.
- Under Windows, the dongle works ok - finds the Israeli channels 
with no hassle (well, after buying the connecting an amplified 
antenna. Kudos to the experts in our ministry of communications for 
the lame launch of DTT broadcasts [or in other words - what is a 
trial/testing period for?])).


So, while I remain optimistic about the prospect interoperability of 
the Apex 328 dongle with Linux (Ubuntu 9.04), I wasn't successful in 
making them sing together.



What program works under windows? I have not been able to get mine to 
work with the software on the CD, I never get any audio. It does work 
with VLC and DVBviewer which costs as much as the dongle cost me.


I use the plain stock Windows CD, on my Vista. It just works, and works 
ok - with sounds, as I'd expect from a Windows application. If you have 
dual head setup try moving to a single head and test it again. Can't say 
much other than that.




I have not been able to try it on Linux because I found that the 
UBUNTU netbook package does not have VLC on it, and I have to re 
download it, convert it to an ISO and then burn a DVD to install it on 
a memory stick. This is because my ubuntu computers are too slow to 
decode the signal, and I can't afford to mess with repartitoning my 
netbook.
what would putting it on a usb stick help ? does this stick have some 
processor with it? (don't you refer to a simple diskonkey?).


I tried it with some other freeware windows programs and it also could 
not find any channels. The same with two different MacOS programs.

i can imagine the frustration. and the hours those trials take... .


In windows I found that if I save the chanels.conf file I gave you and 
point vlc to it as in vlc channels.conf It figures out what to do.


Geoff.




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Re: OT: Digital TV decoder USB sticks

2009-09-27 Thread Boaz Rymland

oops. was supposed to be sent privately. sorry.

Boaz Rymland wrote:

trying to answer your mail below i noticed that indeed my reply has 
little relevance to linux-il so i'll add my words below...



geoffrey mendelson wrote:



On Sep 27, 2009, at 12:17 AM, Boaz Rymland wrote:


Just wanted to update that although the dongle supposed to be 
working, it fails to find any channels:
- drivers are loaded when its pushed into the USB socket. devices 
are appearing under /dev/dvb (IIRC) (tried also chmoding them to 777).
- kaffeine appears to communicate with the dongle ok and when 
combing the frequency scale I do see some high signals along the 
scan (tried to use auto area mode, NZ, and several IL suggested 
configurations as well).

- vlc method described in this thread is not showing any video as well.
- Under Windows, the dongle works ok - finds the Israeli channels 
with no hassle (well, after buying the connecting an amplified 
antenna. Kudos to the experts in our ministry of communications for 
the lame launch of DTT broadcasts [or in other words - what is a 
trial/testing period for?])).


So, while I remain optimistic about the prospect interoperability of 
the Apex 328 dongle with Linux (Ubuntu 9.04), I wasn't successful in 
making them sing together.



What program works under windows? I have not been able to get mine to 
work with the software on the CD, I never get any audio. It does work 
with VLC and DVBviewer which costs as much as the dongle cost me.


I use the plain stock Windows CD, on my Vista. It just works, and 
works ok - with sounds, as I'd expect from a Windows application. If 
you have dual head setup try moving to a single head and test it 
again. Can't say much other than that.




I have not been able to try it on Linux because I found that the 
UBUNTU netbook package does not have VLC on it, and I have to re 
download it, convert it to an ISO and then burn a DVD to install it 
on a memory stick. This is because my ubuntu computers are too slow 
to decode the signal, and I can't afford to mess with repartitoning 
my netbook.
what would putting it on a usb stick help ? does this stick have some 
processor with it? (don't you refer to a simple diskonkey?).


I tried it with some other freeware windows programs and it also 
could not find any channels. The same with two different MacOS programs.

i can imagine the frustration. and the hours those trials take... .


In windows I found that if I save the chanels.conf file I gave you 
and point vlc to it as in vlc channels.conf It figures out what to do.


Geoff.




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Re: OT: Digital TV decoder USB sticks

2009-09-26 Thread Boaz Rymland

Hi,


Thanks for the input.


Just wanted to update that although the dongle supposed to be working, 
it fails to find any channels:


- drivers are loaded when its pushed into the USB socket. devices are 
appearing under /dev/dvb (IIRC) (tried also chmoding them to 777).
- kaffeine appears to communicate with the dongle ok and when combing 
the frequency scale I do see some high signals along the scan (tried to 
use auto area mode, NZ, and several IL suggested configurations as well).

- vlc method described in this thread is not showing any video as well.

- Under Windows, the dongle works ok - finds the Israeli channels with 
no hassle (well, after buying the connecting an amplified antenna. Kudos 
to the experts in our ministry of communications for the lame launch of 
DTT broadcasts [or in other words - what is a trial/testing period for?])).


So, while I remain optimistic about the prospect interoperability of the 
Apex 328 dongle with Linux (Ubuntu 9.04), I wasn't successful in making 
them sing together.



Any pointers, tips, etc would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Boaz.



geoffrey mendelson wrote:



On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Boaz Rymland wrote:


Hi,

I bought this toy today.
I'm glad to say that it worked out of the box in Ubuntu 9.04 - or at 
least it appears so:
Kaffeine is happy with it, I do have /dev/dvb/ devices and dmesg 
seems to report that the drivers are ok. I bet the following kernel 
drivers are related: dvb_usb_af9015, af9013, dvb_usb.
Scanning for channels works as well but that's where the party ends - 
at least where I live (in Petach Tikva) I get zero channels reception.
I switched to Windows, installed the little thingy + its software and 
verified that indeed its a matter of reception - no channels on 
Windows too :-(  .


If you need more info let me know.




This is the information I got from Guy with my annotations about 
frequencies on the bottom:



y...@golem3:~$ cat /home/guy/channels.conf

CH2:51400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:512:4112:1 

CH10:51400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:513:4113:2 

CH1:51400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:514:4114:3 

CH33:51400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:515:4115:4 

CH99:51400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:516:4116:5 






followed this: 
http://davidwinter.me.uk/articles/2008/02/08/watching-freeview-dvb-t-tv-with-vlc-player-on-ubuntu/ 



vlc dvb-t://frequency=51400:bandwidth=8:inversion=0
does it all.

(this is for the center of israel, for the north and south the 
frequency is

53800

Geoff.

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Re: OT: Digital TV decoder USB sticks

2009-09-17 Thread Boaz Rymland

Hi,

I bought this toy today.
I'm glad to say that it worked out of the box in Ubuntu 9.04 - or at 
least it appears so:
Kaffeine is happy with it, I do have /dev/dvb/ devices and dmesg seems 
to report that the drivers are ok. I bet the following kernel drivers 
are related: dvb_usb_af9015, af9013, dvb_usb.
Scanning for channels works as well but that's where the party ends - at 
least where I live (in Petach Tikva) I get zero channels reception.
I switched to Windows, installed the little thingy + its software and 
verified that indeed its a matter of reception - no channels on Windows 
too :-(  .


If you need more info let me know.

I'll try it soon on my laptop in another location - I'm anxious to see 
how it works.


Boaz.

geoffrey mendelson wrote:
My son just brought home a flyer from BUG, they are selling a USB 
digital TV decoder stick for 99 NIS if you buy 99 NIS of something else.


If someone buys one, please post if it is supported by Linux.

Geoff.

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Re: OT: Digital TV decoder USB sticks

2009-09-17 Thread geoffrey mendelson


On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Boaz Rymland wrote:


Hi,

I bought this toy today.
I'm glad to say that it worked out of the box in Ubuntu 9.04 - or at  
least it appears so:
Kaffeine is happy with it, I do have /dev/dvb/ devices and dmesg  
seems to report that the drivers are ok. I bet the following kernel  
drivers are related: dvb_usb_af9015, af9013, dvb_usb.
Scanning for channels works as well but that's where the party ends  
- at least where I live (in Petach Tikva) I get zero channels  
reception.
I switched to Windows, installed the little thingy + its software  
and verified that indeed its a matter of reception - no channels on  
Windows too :-(  .


If you need more info let me know.




This is the information I got from Guy with my annotations about  
frequencies on the bottom:



y...@golem3:~$ cat /home/guy/channels.conf

CH2 
: 
51400 
:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4 
:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16 
:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:512:4112:1
CH10 
: 
51400 
:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4 
:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16 
:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:513:4113:2
CH1 
: 
51400 
:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4 
:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16 
:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:514:4114:3
CH33 
: 
51400 
:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4 
:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16 
:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:515:4115:4
CH99 
: 
51400 
:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_3_4 
:FEC_AUTO:QAM_16 
:TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE:516:4116:5





followed this: 
http://davidwinter.me.uk/articles/2008/02/08/watching-freeview-dvb-t-tv-with-vlc-player-on-ubuntu/

vlc dvb-t://frequency=51400:bandwidth=8:inversion=0
does it all.

(this is for the center of israel, for the north and south the  
frequency is

53800

Geoff.

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Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com






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OT: Digital TV decoder USB sticks

2009-09-16 Thread geoffrey mendelson
My son just brought home a flyer from BUG, they are selling a USB  
digital TV decoder stick for 99 NIS if you buy 99 NIS of something else.


If someone buys one, please post if it is supported by Linux.

Geoff.

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geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com






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