Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:44:28AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> Is there any provider of VPS (Virtual Private Servers) based in Israel
> >> (with Israeli-allocated IP's)?
> >
> > Make sure that whatever Israeli VPS provider is a really stable and is
> > in the market for few years!
> >
> > I had to learn that the hard way: Someone at Bezeq int. recommended me
> > a small company called "spine" to host my videos that I post on my
> > blog. Everything worked pretty well (although their price was pretty
> > high). Few months have passed and then I got an email from someone who
> > read my blog and said that the videos are not playable. I tried to
> > check for myself.. nope, not playable at all, so I tried to SSH the
> > machine. no ssh. tried to call the spine guy, no answer.  Just like
> > that, all the videos and code that I hosted disappeared without giving
> > me any notification or anything.
> 
> Thanks for the warning.
> 
> I'm contemplating hosting some sort of an "appliance" on this server
> which should be automatically-rebuildable, nothing that can't be
> replaced.
> 
> Anyway, it sounds from your reply (and lack of other replies) like
> there is no such a thing as "Israeli VPS provider".

Actually there is - it just seems like noone here has much experience
with it. I know that intervision has such a service. Never used it, and
when I asked it was much more expensive than abroad. But it might be
just what you need.
-- 
Didi


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Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Amos Shapira
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Yedidyah Bar-David <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Actually there is - it just seems like noone here has much experience
> with it. I know that intervision has such a service. Never used it, and
> when I asked it was much more expensive than abroad. But it might be
> just what you need.


Intervision. Thanks.

--Amos


Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Amos Shapira
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Amos,
>
> Unless you're building something which requires small latency (such as
> video/audio streaming), I strongly suggest you should look for such a
> thing outside of Israel.

The main point for this application is to have an IP address hosted in
Israel, latency is not an issue and I don't expect the server to
require much resources (memory, cpu).

We are already using ThePlanet for medium-sized servers for other
functions (two dual quad core servers are our latest purchase, for
about 1700$US a month) and they are pretty good.

--Amos

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Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Amos,

Unless you're building something which requires small latency (such as
video/audio streaming), I strongly suggest you should look for such a
thing outside of Israel.

I just took a simple server from theplanet (they are located at
Texas), which costs me $89 a month: Celeron 2.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, 80GB
Disk, 750GB transfer per month, Centos 5, and you can do whatever you
want to do with it. Downloading speed is not bad to Israel: 200-400K
per second. They have this 'sale' that you can upgrade either the RAM
of your machine (I upgraded from 512MB to 1GB RAM), or double the disk
capacity or the bandwidth limit for free.

Thanks,
Hetz

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Is there any provider of VPS (Virtual Private Servers) based in Israel
>>> (with Israeli-allocated IP's)?
>>
>> Make sure that whatever Israeli VPS provider is a really stable and is
>> in the market for few years!
>>
>> I had to learn that the hard way: Someone at Bezeq int. recommended me
>> a small company called "spine" to host my videos that I post on my
>> blog. Everything worked pretty well (although their price was pretty
>> high). Few months have passed and then I got an email from someone who
>> read my blog and said that the videos are not playable. I tried to
>> check for myself.. nope, not playable at all, so I tried to SSH the
>> machine. no ssh. tried to call the spine guy, no answer.  Just like
>> that, all the videos and code that I hosted disappeared without giving
>> me any notification or anything.
>
> Thanks for the warning.
>
> I'm contemplating hosting some sort of an "appliance" on this server
> which should be automatically-rebuildable, nothing that can't be
> replaced.
>
> Anyway, it sounds from your reply (and lack of other replies) like
> there is no such a thing as "Israeli VPS provider".
>
> --Amos
>
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Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Amos Shapira
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> Is there any provider of VPS (Virtual Private Servers) based in Israel
>> (with Israeli-allocated IP's)?
>
> Make sure that whatever Israeli VPS provider is a really stable and is
> in the market for few years!
>
> I had to learn that the hard way: Someone at Bezeq int. recommended me
> a small company called "spine" to host my videos that I post on my
> blog. Everything worked pretty well (although their price was pretty
> high). Few months have passed and then I got an email from someone who
> read my blog and said that the videos are not playable. I tried to
> check for myself.. nope, not playable at all, so I tried to SSH the
> machine. no ssh. tried to call the spine guy, no answer.  Just like
> that, all the videos and code that I hosted disappeared without giving
> me any notification or anything.

Thanks for the warning.

I'm contemplating hosting some sort of an "appliance" on this server
which should be automatically-rebuildable, nothing that can't be
replaced.

Anyway, it sounds from your reply (and lack of other replies) like
there is no such a thing as "Israeli VPS provider".

--Amos

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Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi,

> Is there any provider of VPS (Virtual Private Servers) based in Israel
> (with Israeli-allocated IP's)?

Make sure that whatever Israeli VPS provider is a really stable and is
in the market for few years!

I had to learn that the hard way: Someone at Bezeq int. recommended me
a small company called "spine" to host my videos that I post on my
blog. Everything worked pretty well (although their price was pretty
high). Few months have passed and then I got an email from someone who
read my blog and said that the videos are not playable. I tried to
check for myself.. nope, not playable at all, so I tried to SSH the
machine. no ssh. tried to call the spine guy, no answer.  Just like
that, all the videos and code that I hosted disappeared without giving
me any notification or anything.

Hetz
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my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org

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Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Amos Shapira
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Yuval Hager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ are cheap as hell. I have a web site there
> and it seems quite reliable (although I don't check it often).
> ssh/sql/php - you got it all. Seems like the perfect solution for your needs.

The one above has all the marks of being based in Arizona or Florida.

Is there any provider of VPS (Virtual Private Servers) based in Israel
(with Israeli-allocated IP's)?

--Amos

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Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Yuval Hager
On Wednesday 28 May 2008, Erez D wrote:
> hi
>
> i want to put up a minimal website
> the web is very simple, mostly a few static pages
> there should not be too much trafic, nor space taken
>
> however, i want it to respond fast to the small traffic it gets
> and to leave security and backup issues to the hosting site
> (so i do not put it on my pc)
> it should of-course be reliable
>
> does anyone know a hosting service that matches this ?
> the cheaper the better ;-)
> as long as it is reliable ...

https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ are cheap as hell. I have a web site there 
and it seems quite reliable (although I don't check it often).
ssh/sql/php - you got it all. Seems like the perfect solution for your needs.

--yuval



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Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi Erez,

If it's only few static pages and reliable, then you can use Google
page (http://pages.google.com). If you have a domain, you can use
zoneedit.com to use webforwarding to those pages.

hetz

On 5/28/08, Erez D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi
>
> i want to put up a minimal website
> the web is very simple, mostly a few static pages
> there should not be too much trafic, nor space taken
>
> however, i want it to respond fast to the small traffic it gets
> and to leave security and backup issues to the hosting site
> (so i do not put it on my pc)
> it should of-course be reliable
>
> does anyone know a hosting service that matches this ?
> the cheaper the better ;-)
> as long as it is reliable ...
>
>
>
> cheers
> erez.
>


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Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Omer Zak
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 10:54 +0300, Erez D wrote:
> however, i want it to ...
> ... leave security and backup issues to the hosting site
> (so i do not put it on my pc)

I would advise against this.
If your stuff is static, it is enough to backup it just once.  But it
must be backed up nevertheless.
   --- Omer




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OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?

2008-05-28 Thread Erez D
hi

i want to put up a minimal website
the web is very simple, mostly a few static pages
there should not be too much trafic, nor space taken

however, i want it to respond fast to the small traffic it gets
and to leave security and backup issues to the hosting site
(so i do not put it on my pc)
it should of-course be reliable

does anyone know a hosting service that matches this ?
the cheaper the better ;-)
as long as it is reliable ...



cheers
erez.