Public NTP servers in Israel

2001-04-29 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt


Can anyone point me to a list of public NTP servers in Israel. A
search on Google didn't yield anything useful. A search of this list's
archive yielded a few addresses scattered over several threads, but I
was wondering if a list similar to

http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm 

exists.

Thanks,

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Re: Public NTP servers in Israel

2001-04-29 Thread Michael Rozhavsky

Hi,

I'm using ntp.netvision.net.il, but I'm not sure that this one is open for non 
Netvision customers.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 03:11:27PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
 
 Can anyone point me to a list of public NTP servers in Israel. A
 search on Google didn't yield anything useful. A search of this list's
 archive yielded a few addresses scattered over several threads, but I
 was wondering if a list similar to
 
 http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm 
 
 exists.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Public NTP servers in Israel

2001-04-29 Thread Ariel Biener

On 29 Apr 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:


Server name | Server alias  | Stratum   | Status
+---+---+
timeserver.iix.net.il   | ntp.iix.net.il| stratum 2 | public
ntp.ilan.net.il | ntp.ac.il | stratum 0/1   | only stratum 2
  servers

--Ariel
 
 Can anyone point me to a list of public NTP servers in Israel. A
 search on Google didn't yield anything useful. A search of this list's
 archive yielded a few addresses scattered over several threads, but I
 was wondering if a list similar to
 
 http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm
 
 exists.
 
 Thanks,
 
 --
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 I'd rather write programs to write programs than write programs.
 
 
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Re: Public NTP servers in Israel

2001-04-29 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo

OG Can anyone point me to a list of public NTP servers in Israel. A

There's ntp.ac.il, and there are ntp.tau.ac.il, ntp.technion.ac.il
and I guess more, most of them uses ntp.ac.il. I'm not sure about others,
but ntp.ac.il is public.

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Re: Public NTP servers in Israel

2001-04-29 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo

AB timeserver.iix.net.il  | ntp.iix.net.il| stratum 2 | public
AB ntp.ilan.net.il| ntp.ac.il | stratum 0/1   | only stratum 2
AB   servers

Seems that ntp.ac.il still allows connection to everybody. But then it's
better to use timeserver.iix.net.il.

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Re: Public NTP servers in Israel

2001-04-29 Thread Ariel Biener

On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote:

 There's ntp.ac.il, and there are ntp.tau.ac.il, ntp.technion.ac.il
 and I guess more, most of them uses ntp.ac.il. I'm not sure about others,
 but ntp.ac.il is public.

ntp.ac.il == ntp.ilan.net.il. It's public, but should only be used by
stratum 2 ntp servers. Stratum 0/1 servers are not to be used by end
clients, see netiquette about it. It also is a scalability problem.


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Re: Public NTP servers in Israel

2001-04-29 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Sun, Apr 29, 2001, Ariel Biener wrote about Re: Public NTP servers in Israel:
 On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote:
 
  There's ntp.ac.il, and there are ntp.tau.ac.il, ntp.technion.ac.il
  and I guess more, most of them uses ntp.ac.il. I'm not sure about others,
  but ntp.ac.il is public.
 
 ntp.ac.il == ntp.ilan.net.il. It's public, but should only be used by
 stratum 2 ntp servers. Stratum 0/1 servers are not to be used by end
 clients, see netiquette about it. It also is a scalability problem.

By definition, any NTP client/server connecting to a stratum 1 server becomes
a stratum 2 server, so saying it should only be used by stratum 2 servers
doesn't say much...

I think what you meant to emphasize was that a stratum 1 server should be
used only by an NTP *server* which belongs to a non-trivial organization
and which will be in-turn used by a non-trivial number of people. For example,
ntp.netvision.net.il (stratum 2) uses ntp.ilan.net.il (stratum 1).
ntp.technion.ac.il (stratum 3) uses relay.huji.ac.il (stratum 2) which uses
ntp.ilan.net.il (stratum 1). You get the idea.

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Re: Public NTP servers in Israel

2001-04-29 Thread Ariel Biener

On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote:

 By definition, any NTP client/server connecting to a stratum 1 server becomes
 a stratum 2 server, so saying it should only be used by stratum 2 servers
 doesn't say much...

I know what I meant, and so do the others here, but thanks for taking the
time for writing this interpretation for the sake of those who didn't
understand,

--Ariel
 
 I think what you meant to emphasize was that a stratum 1 server should be
 used only by an NTP *server* which belongs to a non-trivial organization
 and which will be in-turn used by a non-trivial number of people. For example,
 ntp.netvision.net.il (stratum 2) uses ntp.ilan.net.il (stratum 1).
 ntp.technion.ac.il (stratum 3) uses relay.huji.ac.il (stratum 2) which uses
 ntp.ilan.net.il (stratum 1). You get the idea.
 
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