Re: Linux AP at a good price in Israel?
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:55:59 +0200, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was hoping for something closer to 350-400 NIS... am I dreaming? Have someone import it for you. It's less than $200 so it can easily be brought in the green lane, and even if the tax persons find it you can show a receipt and tell them it's a wireless network adaptor. They will probably not bother with figuring if it's legal or not. What I usually do is I take the package apart, fold it, ship it in another bag with my clothes, same goes for manuals etc. and put the actual electronics in my carryon, which is littered with other, visibly used electronics, cables and stuff anyway. -- Arik = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux AP at a good price in Israel?
I have one right here.. it's pretty good unless you want to use stuff like UPnP (for apps like Azureus which uses the UPnP protocol extensively if you download multiple bit-torrent stuff).. Buying the WRT54G from US doesn't make much sense these days for 2 reasons: 1. No warranty. 2. Although it costs ~60$ in U.S - you'll have to add at least $80 for shipping, %17 for Israeli VAT (Maam), and you'll need to buy a new power adapter (I think it costs around 60 NIS, I bought mine in Adar electronics in Hashmonaim st.) - do you still think it worths the effort and money to buy it from U.S.? Thanks, Hetz so I turn to the Linksys WRT54G and similar friends, and they are all quite expensive in Isarel, it seems. it comes at $50-$75 in the US according to Froogle and others, but in Israel I could no find it for cheap. anyone has a recommended source, other than ordering from the US? http://openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware here for 600 NIS: (700 if you order a wifi card as well) http://www.top100.co.il/Product.asp?Pid=WRT54GCat2Cat1ID=86Cat2ID=310 I was hoping for something closer to 350-400 NIS... am I dreaming? -- Tough lover Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux AP at a good price in Israel?
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: I have one right here.. it's pretty good unless you want to use stuff like UPnP (for apps like Azureus which uses the UPnP protocol extensively if you download multiple bit-torrent stuff).. Buying the WRT54G from US doesn't make much sense these days for 2 reasons: 1. No warranty. 2. Although it costs ~60$ in U.S - you'll have to add at least $80 for shipping, %17 for Israeli VAT (Maam), and you'll need to buy a new power adapter (I think it costs around 60 NIS, I bought mine in Adar electronics in Hashmonaim st.) - do you still think it worths the effort and money to buy it from U.S.? You forgot the chance of a couple of hundereds of NIS for storage at the Israeli customs if they happen to intercept the package until you can bring them the correct piece of paper that says that someone else is already importing this dangerous wireless device and have the permit to do so. it doesn't happen every time, but when it does, it hurts... Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] Codefidence. A name you can trust(tm) Web: http://codefidence.com | SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +972.9.8650475 ext. 201 | Fax: +972.9.8850643 I am Jack's Overwritten Stack Pointer -- Hackers Club, the movie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux AP at a good price in Israel?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:55:59PM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: so I turn to the Linksys WRT54G and similar friends, and they are all quite expensive in Isarel, it seems. it comes at $50-$75 in the US according to Froogle and others, but in Israel I could no find it for cheap. anyone has a recommended source, other than ordering from the US? What about eBay? http://openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware here for 600 NIS: (700 if you order a wifi card as well) http://www.top100.co.il/Product.asp?Pid=WRT54GCat2Cat1ID=86Cat2ID=310 I was hoping for something closer to 350-400 NIS... am I dreaming? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux AP at a good price in Israel?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 03:00:44PM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: You forgot the chance of a couple of hundereds of NIS for storage at the Israeli customs if they happen to intercept the package until you can bring them the correct piece of paper that says that someone else is already importing this dangerous wireless device and have the permit to do so. it doesn't happen every time, but when it does, it hurts... Actually you will never get that paper. Without Israeli microcode it is capable of transmiting on channels 1-13 and only 4-8 are legal here. If there is any possible way of getting it to transmit with more power than 100mW, it is illegal and cannot be imported. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: 972-2-679-6896 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 VoIP (Email to schedule) Free World Dialup: 523178 Skype: gsmendelson = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux AP at a good price in Israel?
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:06:20 +0200, Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about eBay? Which reminds me that the owner has just told me about this site, He wants to turn it to be the local eBay: http://www.pumbit.com/ Gabor = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux AP at a good price in Israel?
Quoting Hetz Ben Hamo, from the post of Mon, 14 Mar: I have one right here.. it's pretty good unless you want to use stuff like UPnP (for apps like Azureus which uses the UPnP protocol extensively if you download multiple bit-torrent stuff).. it doesn't support UPnP? I read it did! -- The new danger Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux AP at a good price in Israel?
Ira Abramov wrote: so I turn to the Linksys WRT54G and similar friends, and they are all quite expensive in Isarel, it seems. it comes at $50-$75 in the US according to Froogle and others, but in Israel I could no find it for cheap. anyone has a recommended source, other than ordering from the US? here for 600 NIS: (700 if you order a wifi card as well) http://www.top100.co.il/Product.asp?Pid=WRT54GCat2Cat1ID=86Cat2ID=310 I was hoping for something closer to 350-400 NIS... am I dreaming? Yeah :) You'd be dreaming as well if you think of ordering it from a major site such as Amazon, as those ship to US only, possibly because of the quirky broadcast equipment import restrictions various countries impose. The only cheap choice remains eBay. Many major eBay sellers won't ship internationally either, but smaller ones usually will, especially if you ask them privately and make it crystal clear it's you who'd be paying the extra shipment. So, for $50 you could probably Buy-it-now -- add $24.50 for USPS Airmail (4 days - a week delivery). Make sure you ask the vendor what hardware version the router is -- read the part on Hardware versions at [ http://www.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRT54G ]. Some forum posts indicate there's preliminary support for hardware version 2.2 as well, but YMMV. As to customs, I've also heard scary stories about storage fees they charge, but the word on the street is that they don't even bother about packages which cost less than $200. I personally know folks who ordered wireless equipment from abroad without any troubles. As to UPnP, as it runs Linux, I bet you can simply run Linux-IGD on it, as long as it fits its' RAM. P.S. My personal experience with buying one through eBay sucked so far: Basically, I was ripped off and now I'm waiting for Paypal to compensate me. However, most people I know are quite satisfied with eBay-based deals. I also know someone in Israel who got his WRT54G via eBay. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux AP at a good price in Israel?
Oh, it does UPnP, but the router seems to forget the UPnP ports assignments many times (the problem also appear with their latest firmware).. Thanks, Hetz On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:54:28 +0200, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Hetz Ben Hamo, from the post of Mon, 14 Mar: I have one right here.. it's pretty good unless you want to use stuff like UPnP (for apps like Azureus which uses the UPnP protocol extensively if you download multiple bit-torrent stuff).. it doesn't support UPnP? I read it did! -- The new danger Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
