Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software
MasterType's Writer for the C64 would take so long to load, well more than 5 minutes - First one side of the disk, then the other. It was a very rich-featured word processor. On 10/2/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007, Dan Kenigsberg wrote about Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 07:14:07PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: [1] On the first computer I ever used, the Commodore 64, a diskette held around 160 KB (if I remember correctly). My new hard disk will contain 320 GB, the equivalent of 2 million (!!) such diskettes. But boot time was shorter! Boot time, yes, but when you actually wanted to run a program, you'd often sit as much as 5 minutes (!) waiting for for it to load (though there were load speedup utilities that sped this up to just one minute). By the way, today, with the advent of hibernate (suspend to disk), boot time is actually very short. I rarely ever boot my computer from scratch these days - except when I want to change the kernel. Rather I use the hibernate feature. Booting up the next time takes about 10 seconds, and I get everything exectly like I left it. -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Oct 2 2007, 21 Tishri 5768 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Business jargon is the art of saying http://nadav.harel.org.il |nothing while appearing to say a lot. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007, Shlomi Fish wrote about Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software: There's a new petition to release MainActor, a non-linear video editing software under an open-source software, as it will be discontinued. See: This reminds me. A few days, my ancient home computer died, so I was forced to (finally) buy a new computer. My new computer will have tons of disk space [1], tons of memory, a firewire card and a DVD writer, so I hope to do some video editing of my home videos. Obviously, my new computer will run Linux exclusively, and I was hoping to find a nice free video-editing software. Does such a thing exist? A short Google search yielded Kino and a few other projects, which seemed (just from reading about it) good enough for my relatively-simple needs (I'm not planning to edit Hollywood movies...). Now, I understand from your mail that the existing free video editing software are not good enough. Can you please give a few details? What features that this MainActor (of which I never heard, I have to admit) has are missing from the existing free software video editors? [1] On the first computer I ever used, the Commodore 64, a diskette held around 160 KB (if I remember correctly). My new hard disk will contain 320 GB, the equivalent of 2 million (!!) such diskettes. -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Oct 2 2007, 21 Tishri 5768 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Microchips: what's left at the bottom of http://nadav.harel.org.il |the bag when it reaches you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software
Hi Nadav! On Tuesday 02 October 2007, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2007, Shlomi Fish wrote about Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software: There's a new petition to release MainActor, a non-linear video editing software under an open-source software, as it will be discontinued. See: This reminds me. A few days, my ancient home computer died, so I was forced to (finally) buy a new computer. My new computer will have tons of disk space [1], tons of memory, a firewire card and a DVD writer, so I hope to do some video editing of my home videos. Congratulations. (And I hope you had backups of your data.) Obviously, my new computer will run Linux exclusively, and I was hoping to find a nice free video-editing software. Does such a thing exist? A short Google search yielded Kino and a few other projects, which seemed (just from reading about it) good enough for my relatively-simple needs (I'm not planning to edit Hollywood movies...). Now, I understand from your mail that the existing free video editing software are not good enough. Can you please give a few details? What features that this MainActor (of which I never heard, I have to admit) has are missing from the existing free software video editors? To be honest, I never did any video editing. (Unless you call creating stupid cartoons with an animated actor program, video editing). The reason I posted this petition is because I'd hate to see such software (which is supposed to be good) become unavailable because it is discontinued. It's not something I've personally used - it's just something I believe would be useful. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ If it's not in my E-mail it doesn't happen. And if my E-mail is saying one thing, and everything else says something else - E-mail will conquer. -- An Israeli Linuxer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software
Nadav Har'El wrote: [1] On the first computer I ever used, the Commodore 64, a diskette held around 160 KB (if I remember correctly). At least on the Apple ][, it was 144KB per side. Then again, the commodore may have had double sided disks. I'm afraid the only Commodore I had was an Amiga. Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 Shachar Shemesh wrote: Nadav Har'El wrote: [1] On the first computer I ever used, the Commodore 64, a diskette held around 160 KB (if I remember correctly). At least on the Apple ][, it was 144KB per side. Then again, the commodore may have had double sided disks. I'm afraid the only Commodore I had was an Amiga. IIRC Commodore had 160k per side and was double-sided (but you had to make a hole with a cutter on the other side and flip the diskette to access data on the other side). But it was enough to have a full flight simulator that would let you fly from Chicago to Seattle. Shachar - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007, Aviram Jenik wrote about Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software: Nadav Har'El wrote: [1] On the first computer I ever used, the Commodore 64, a diskette held around 160 KB (if I remember correctly). At least on the Apple ][, it was 144KB per side. Then again, the commodore may have had double sided disks. I'm afraid the only Commodore I had was an Amiga. IIRC Commodore had 160k per side and was double-sided (but you had to make a hole with a cutter on the other side and flip the diskette to access data on the other side). But it was enough to have a full flight simulator that would let you fly from Chicago to Seattle. I wrote this 160 KB number from memory, but looking now in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_1541 I see that a C64 diskette could hold 170 KB or 165 KB, depending on how you count. Oh, and yes, you *could* flip the diskette over, cut a new notch on the other side (there was even a special notch-cutter to do that!), and hold another 165 KB (or whatever) on the other side, but there wasn't a real point in doing this - unless you were really cheap (new diskettes weren't that expensive...) - because you had to manually flip the CD - the drive couldn't read from both sides. It was amazing what would fit on a diskette back than. The most fancy games used to fill up a whole diskette (wow!), but most games filled only a part of a diskette, so you could have diskettes with several games. Imagine what you can do with 160 KB of storage today - not much... -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Oct 2 2007, 21 Tishri 5768 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Are you still here? The message is over. http://nadav.harel.org.il |Shoo! Go away! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 07:14:07PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: [1] On the first computer I ever used, the Commodore 64, a diskette held around 160 KB (if I remember correctly). My new hard disk will contain 320 GB, the equivalent of 2 million (!!) such diskettes. But boot time was shorter! -- Dan Kenigsberghttp://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~dankenICQ 162180901 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007, Dan Kenigsberg wrote about Re: Petition to ask MainConcept to release MainActor as Open Source software: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 07:14:07PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: [1] On the first computer I ever used, the Commodore 64, a diskette held around 160 KB (if I remember correctly). My new hard disk will contain 320 GB, the equivalent of 2 million (!!) such diskettes. But boot time was shorter! Boot time, yes, but when you actually wanted to run a program, you'd often sit as much as 5 minutes (!) waiting for for it to load (though there were load speedup utilities that sped this up to just one minute). By the way, today, with the advent of hibernate (suspend to disk), boot time is actually very short. I rarely ever boot my computer from scratch these days - except when I want to change the kernel. Rather I use the hibernate feature. Booting up the next time takes about 10 seconds, and I get everything exectly like I left it. -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Oct 2 2007, 21 Tishri 5768 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Business jargon is the art of saying http://nadav.harel.org.il |nothing while appearing to say a lot. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
