Re: Problem with installation and SCSI CD/R.

2002-01-13 Thread Shaul Karl

 Hi. I have a problem installing Suse 7.3 on my machine (which had 
 suse 7.0). I should say on the outset that this is a PPC machine, but 
 I think the problem is probably not CPU-related, so maybe the 
 experience of people here may help.
 
 Basically, I have an internal IDE hard disk (on which I install), an 
 external SCSI hard disk, and an external SCSI cd/r (from which I 
 install).
 
 Kernel 2.2.16 (the old one I used) recognizes the SCSI devices 
 without a problem. However, the SuSE installer runs kernel 2.4.12 (I 
 think), and that one displays the devices correctly (e.g. disk at 
 scsi bus 0, id 1, lun 0, cd at...).
 
 But then it gets stuck. As if, once recognizing the devices, it can't 
 actually access the CD/R.
 
 Once or twice it got past this stage, and into linuxrc, but then 
 linuxrc did not find the CD/R.
 
 So, I was thinking that one of two things are possible:
 
 1. This kernel is overly sensitive to SCSI quirks (such as cable 
 length, SCSI ID voodoo, and stuff).
 


If 2.2.16 worked with this CD rom and you did not change the hardware 
then cabling problems is not much likely.

What is the behavior with MS (in case you have it installed)?


 2. The kernel, as compiled by SuSE, lacks some crucial module of 
 which I'm not aware.
 
 If the first case is true, I guess I can shorten the cables by 
 replacing my dysfunctional internal SCSI cd/rom with some new device 
 (probably cd/rw, while I'm at it), so I only have one external device 
 and about 1.5 meter less of cable. Of course, this is a bit of an 
 expense with some added problems, such as - is a Yamaha CRW2100SNB 
 supported by kernel 2.4.x).
 
 If the second case is true, I need to know what module I'm missing. 
 The external CD/R is an old TEAC (I can find out the exact model once 
 I'm back home).
 


You might try to compare the .config of the 2.2 and the 2.4 kernels.


 Any help appreciated.
 
 Herouth
 


Perhaps the scsitools package can help? The CD-ROM HOWTO? Posting the 
relevant boot messages?
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Re: Problem with installation and SCSI CD/R.

2002-01-13 Thread Ira Abramov

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Shaul Karl wrote:

  suse 7.0). I should say on the outset that this is a PPC machine, but

 What is the behavior with MS (in case you have it installed)?

well, when you find MSwin for PPC on the shelf, tell me.

Herouth: ppc is quite rare in Israel, and you haven't even said if we're
talking here about a Mac, IBM RS6000 or something else. I think higher
quality support and info will be found in some LinuxPPC forum or mailing
list...

Good luck.

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Re: Problem with installation and SCSI CD/R.

2002-01-13 Thread Daniel Feiglin

Hi!

I have A SCSI CDRW on a regular Intell system with SuSE 7.3. I did the text mode 
install with yast1 from diskette. After the inital boot, it asks if you have any 
modules to install. Well, you sure do. Say yes, and you are asked to use the 
second diskette to select modules for your SCSI peripherals. At the end of the 
day, it creates an initrd image with these things built in so you can see them 
after a normal boot (otherwise you have to insmod everything by hand!). Most of 
this stuff is covered in the supplied Reference Manual. One gotcha: mkinitrd 
is NOT supplied with SuSE. They have there own thing called mk_initrd which does 
  much the same thing. I found 7.1 and 7.3 to be quite different from 7.0 in the 
way it does this stuff - probably because of the move from the 2.2.x to the 
2.4.x kernels.

Bottom line is that once you have preselected the modules for your SCSI CDR, you 
can then use it for the rest of the install.

Regards,

DAF

Shaul Karl wrote:

Hi. I have a problem installing Suse 7.3 on my machine (which had 
suse 7.0). I should say on the outset that this is a PPC machine, but 
I think the problem is probably not CPU-related, so maybe the 
experience of people here may help.

Basically, I have an internal IDE hard disk (on which I install), an 
external SCSI hard disk, and an external SCSI cd/r (from which I 
install).

Kernel 2.2.16 (the old one I used) recognizes the SCSI devices 
without a problem. However, the SuSE installer runs kernel 2.4.12 (I 
think), and that one displays the devices correctly (e.g. disk at 
scsi bus 0, id 1, lun 0, cd at...).

But then it gets stuck. As if, once recognizing the devices, it can't 
actually access the CD/R.

Once or twice it got past this stage, and into linuxrc, but then 
linuxrc did not find the CD/R.

So, I was thinking that one of two things are possible:

1. This kernel is overly sensitive to SCSI quirks (such as cable 
length, SCSI ID voodoo, and stuff).


 
 
 If 2.2.16 worked with this CD rom and you did not change the hardware 
 then cabling problems is not much likely.
 
 What is the behavior with MS (in case you have it installed)?
 
 
 
2. The kernel, as compiled by SuSE, lacks some crucial module of 
which I'm not aware.

If the first case is true, I guess I can shorten the cables by 
replacing my dysfunctional internal SCSI cd/rom with some new device 
(probably cd/rw, while I'm at it), so I only have one external device 
and about 1.5 meter less of cable. Of course, this is a bit of an 
expense with some added problems, such as - is a Yamaha CRW2100SNB 
supported by kernel 2.4.x).

If the second case is true, I need to know what module I'm missing. 
The external CD/R is an old TEAC (I can find out the exact model once 
I'm back home).


 
 
 You might try to compare the .config of the 2.2 and the 2.4 kernels.
 
 
 
Any help appreciated.

Herouth


 
 
 Perhaps the scsitools package can help? The CD-ROM HOWTO? Posting the 
 relevant boot messages?
 



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