Re: and what's with pine+imap? (was: Re: Suggentions for server side spam control)
* guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031231 23:22]: > > i tried checking for the possibility to have spam filtering with the > following configuration: > > remote mail server, accessed using 'pine', via an imap server. > > is there any solution, _WITHOUT_ replacing the mail client, and without > reverting to pop3? Search for software where it is indexed, FreshMeat. http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=filter+imap§ion=projects&x=0&y=0 Shows as first hit IMAPAssassin which should fit the bill. The logic of such a beast is not very hard, read from imap, send throgh spamassassin, upload a modified message according to what SA returned. Obviously, the devil is in the little details. Baruch = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: and what's with pine+imap?
How about an imap proxy? SpamAssasign has such a feature, IIRC. This means that you Pine will connect to an IMAP server in localhost which will then query the remote IMAP server. guy keren wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Alon Altman wrote: On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, guy keren wrote: i tried checking for the possibility to have spam filtering with the following configuration: remote mail server, accessed using 'pine', via an imap server. - thus, i cannot install a spam-filter on the remote server. - the local procmail is never activated, and thus seems to be un-useable here. - i can't use fetchmail - this is imap, not pop3. - couldn't find a way, in pine's configuration, on how to set up a filter that passes the message via an external program. - searching for a solution using google, as well as reading spamassassin's documentation, just shows solutions that assume you can set spamassassin to run via procmail. this does not seem to work for my setup. is there any solution, _WITHOUT_ replacing the mail client, and without reverting to pop3? IIRC, fetchmail supports IMAP, so use fetchmail+procmail and then either use the downloaded mail locally, or use IMAP to upload the mail back to the server. this setup defeats the purpose of using imap in the first place - to be able to see all messages _without_ downloading the messages themselves. i'm beginning to think i'm asking for the imposible - to filter the letter, i need to first download it. however, i should be able to filter out by the message headers that _are_ downloaded by imap, thus eliminating a large part of the spam, and only then downloading the rest of it for further inspection... oh, well. no spam solution for me... -- = Gil Freund Sysnet consulting - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sysnet.co.il voice: +972-52-676906 Fax: +972-8-9356026 = = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: and what's with pine+imap? (was: Re: Suggentions for server sidespam control)
-Original Message- From: guy keren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > i'm beginning to think i'm asking for the imposible - to filter the > letter, i need to first download it. however, i should be able to filter > out by the message headers that _are_ downloaded by imap, thus eliminating > a large part of the spam, and only then downloading the rest of it for > further inspection... > > oh, well. no spam solution for me... Actually there is. http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/applications.html#imap I'm using the Outlook plugin version, and it works great. Basically what they say is that there are two folders: Decided spam and Suspected spam. There are two thresholds, spam threshold and suspect threshold. The suspect folder is intended to catch all those messages that are undecided for the purpose of training (and initially they are all suspect). After some training it gets really good at it. The application is an IMAP proxy. You set it up on some port, and connect through it. It senses when you move mail to the spam folder or from the suspect folder into the inbox folder and considers that to be traininig. -- Arik ** This email and attachments have been scanned for potential proprietary or sensitive information leakage. PortAuthority(TM) Server Keeping Information Inside Vidius, Inc. www.vidius.com ** To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: and what's with pine+imap? (was: Re: Suggentions for server side spam control)
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Alon Altman wrote: > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, guy keren wrote: > > > i tried checking for the possibility to have spam filtering with the > > following configuration: > > > > remote mail server, accessed using 'pine', via an imap server. > > > > - thus, i cannot install a spam-filter on the remote server. > > - the local procmail is never activated, and thus seems to be un-useable > > here. > > - i can't use fetchmail - this is imap, not pop3. > > - couldn't find a way, in pine's configuration, on how to set up a filter > > that passes the message via an external program. > > - searching for a solution using google, as well as reading spamassassin's > > documentation, just shows solutions that assume you can set spamassassin > > to run via procmail. this does not seem to work for my setup. > > > > is there any solution, _WITHOUT_ replacing the mail client, and without > > reverting to pop3? > > IIRC, fetchmail supports IMAP, so use fetchmail+procmail and then either > use the downloaded mail locally, or use IMAP to upload the mail back to the > server. this setup defeats the purpose of using imap in the first place - to be able to see all messages _without_ downloading the messages themselves. i'm beginning to think i'm asking for the imposible - to filter the letter, i need to first download it. however, i should be able to filter out by the message headers that _are_ downloaded by imap, thus eliminating a large part of the spam, and only then downloading the rest of it for further inspection... oh, well. no spam solution for me... -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
