subject:"Re\: israelt TV online \(again\)"

2009/1/6 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com:
 I just got a reply back from them. Due to many pniot from the public,
 there is a new website planned for 2010!

 Best joke. I bet that a nice letter to rashut sdot Hateufa and Misrad
 Hatahbura will move things faster. After all, we are in election period.


Do it! You are just the person to word it effectively, too!

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-06 Thread Dvir Volk

Aren't the IAA the same bunch of losers who can't even get their job
done, and got Israel's traffic safety ranking down to the level of
Zimbabwe's?
I highly doubt getting their site done right is possible as well.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:41 AM, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/1/5 Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org:
  Oh, lots! Ben-Gurion Airport, for one, e.g.,
  http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/he-IL/Airports/BenGurion/ and just about
  everything inside, notably the departures/arrivals/schedules
  pages.

 I just got a reply back from them. Due to many pniot from the public,
 there is a new website planned for 2010!

 Best joke. I bet that a nice letter to rashut sdot Hateufa and Misrad
 Hatahbura will move things faster. After all, we are in election period.

 --
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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/6 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com:
 Aren't the IAA the same bunch of losers who can't even get their job
 done, and got Israel's traffic safety ranking down to the level of
 Zimbabwe's?

[citation needed]

I really thought that our safety record was alright. Note that I am
unfamiliar with Zimbabwe's safety record.

 I highly doubt getting their site done right is possible as well.


The rep I communicated with really seemed to care. She even took some
of my comments personally, it seemed. However, I do not know how much
power she has to actually _do_ something. Nor do I think that she is
responsible for our safety record! Two heads, same monster.

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[OFFTOPIC] IAA Performance (was: Re: israelt TV online (again))

2009-01-06 Thread Omer Zak

On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 10:08 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 2009/1/6 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com:
  Aren't the IAA the same bunch of losers who can't even get their job
  done, and got Israel's traffic safety ranking down to the level of
  Zimbabwe's?
 
 [citation needed]

There was an article about it in the weekend supplement of Yediot
Aharonot about 1 1/2 weeks ago.
More recently, it was found that the landing strip in the Uvda airport
(near Eilat) is crumbling and now Israel has no backup airport for big
airplanes.

 I really thought that our safety record was alright. Note that I am
 unfamiliar with Zimbabwe's safety record.

We were lucky so far.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-06 Thread Dvir Volk

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/1/6 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com:
 Aren't the IAA the same bunch of losers who can't even get their job
 done, and got Israel's traffic safety ranking down to the level of
 Zimbabwe's?

 [citation needed]

citation:
http://www.calcalist.co.il/local/articles/0,7340,L-3172583,00.html

you can get the complete list here [ms excel]:
http://www.faa.gov/safety/programs%5Finitiatives/oversight/iasa/media/iasaws.xls

other category 2 countries:
belize, bangladesh, congo, gambia, haiti, nicaragua, swaziland.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh


Dotan Cohen wrote:


I really thought that our safety record was alright.
Please note that this is about aviation and maintenance safety, not 
security related threats safety.


Shachar

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/6 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/1/6 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com:
 Aren't the IAA the same bunch of losers who can't even get their job
 done, and got Israel's traffic safety ranking down to the level of
 Zimbabwe's?

 [citation needed]

 citation:
 http://www.calcalist.co.il/local/articles/0,7340,L-3172583,00.html

 you can get the complete list here [ms excel]:
 http://www.faa.gov/safety/programs%5Finitiatives/oversight/iasa/media/iasaws.xls

 other category 2 countries:
 belize, bangladesh, congo, gambia, haiti, nicaragua, swaziland.


Thank you, I will review that.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/6 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz:
 Dotan Cohen wrote:

 I really thought that our safety record was alright.

 Please note that this is about aviation and maintenance safety, not security
 related threats safety.

 Shachar


Yes, Shachar, I am aware of the differences between safety and
security. But it is good to point it out, in any case.

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Re: [OFFTOPIC] IAA Performance (was: Re: israelt TV online (again))

2009/1/6 Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il:
 There was an article about it in the weekend supplement of Yediot
 Aharonot about 1 1/2 weeks ago.
 More recently, it was found that the landing strip in the Uvda airport
 (near Eilat) is crumbling and now Israel has no backup airport for big
 airplanes.

 I really thought that our safety record was alright. Note that I am
 unfamiliar with Zimbabwe's safety record.

 We were lucky so far.


I hate the Israeli / Jewish tradition of letting luck lead the way.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-06 Thread sara fink

I will do it, for the sake of everybody. I only need small help to save my
time. Names (at rashut sdot Hateufa), and fax numbers (misrad hatahbura and
rashut sdot hateufa). You can send it in private.

And my suggestion, after I do it, some more people to fax them similar
complaints to increase the pressure at different intervals of time. ;-)

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/1/6 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com:
  I just got a reply back from them. Due to many pniot from the public,
  there is a new website planned for 2010!
 
  Best joke. I bet that a nice letter to rashut sdot Hateufa and Misrad
  Hatahbura will move things faster. After all, we are in election period.
 

 Do it! You are just the person to word it effectively, too!

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/6 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com:
 I will do it, for the sake of everybody. I only need small help to save my
 time. Names (at rashut sdot Hateufa), and fax numbers (misrad hatahbura and
 rashut sdot hateufa). You can send it in private.


http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/he-IL/Airports/BenGurion/MakeAcontact/

 And my suggestion, after I do it, some more people to fax them similar
 complaints to increase the pressure at different intervals of time. ;-)


This is most important: different intervals of time! So remember this
post and write to them in a few days / weeks everybody, me included.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-05 Thread Dvir Volk

from personal knowledge about the way stuff works there, I doubt this
will change anything.

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/1/5 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com:
 In addition to finding workaround, take the time and write to
 mako.co.il. They will not change if we do not let them know that we

 Done. Also tested and included complaint about not being usable
 through mobile phone.

 Cheers,

 --Amos

 PS - They are still stuck in the 90's with a Make this your home
 page button :)

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/5 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com:
 from personal knowledge about the way stuff works there, I doubt this
 will change anything.


Really? Walla Mail is now usable in firefox, and a few others. If you
know of Israeli websites that do not work in Firefox, please send to
me the addresses. Thanks!

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-05 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com writes:

 Who is the idiot who wrote _that_ site?!?

Matrix... http://www.matrix.co.il. It says so right at the
bottom. They must be really proud. 

This site was discussed on Linux-IL years ago. It has many funny
features, e.g., displaying dafdefan lo mat'im if you fail to
enable cookies (don't you hate bugs in error handling code?).

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/5 Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org:
 Can't they fix the stupid backslashes a couple of years earlier? :-(


I wrote back and forth with the representative some more, she says
that there will be a 'temporary' fix. If that means a bare-bones page
with no formatting, then I hope that it stays! In any case, I told her
that until the 'temporary' page is public, I _still_ do not have a
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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-05 Thread Shachar Shemesh


Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:


Can't they fix the stupid backslashes a couple of years earlier? :-(

  


Isn't this something greasemonkey can do? (never worked with it, don't 
know it beyond a vague concept)


Shachar

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-05 Thread Micha Silver


Dotan Cohen wrote:


2009/1/5 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com:
  

from personal knowledge about the way stuff works there, I doubt this
will change anything.




Really? Walla Mail is now usable in firefox, and a few others. If you
know of Israeli websites that do not work in Firefox, please send to
me the addresses. Thanks!

  

Hi Dotan:
I noticed recently that the Ministry of Finance has a very nice site for 
comparing different gemel plans. But *strictly* Internet Explorer.

http://gemelnet.mof.gov.il/
With the ongoing economic situation, this site is very important to 
everyone, even poor Linux users.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-05 Thread Amos Shapira

2009/1/5 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz:
 According to Gal Mor's blog[2], however, this is being worked on, and they
 are slowly transitioning to flash based video, partly in order to increase
 non-Windows/IE support. I don't think there is anything to gain from bugging
 them at this point in time.

And hopefully having such a major mainstream site bother to convert
from a working windows/IE only technology to a more cross-platform one
might convince others to rethink.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

If we keep on sending them, they will consider.
If we don't complain, we only give strongness to their assumption that it
works and everyone is using Windows.
We must complain more and more.
Keep on sending them dosens of mails so they know we exist.

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  www.d.co.il (yellow pages) doesn't give any results to a search...

 Worked fine for me: Firefox 3.0 Kubuntu 8.10

  Ynet still doesn't function properly in regards to videos.

 Where do you see video on ynet?

  www.cibus.co.il doesn't work with Firefox and states this on the front
 page.

 I just wrote to them, thanks!

  I think there were more, I'll try to remember...
 

 Walla video doesn't work either. If you have more, please send them. Thank!

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/5 Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il:
 I noticed recently that the Ministry of Finance has a very nice site for
 comparing different gemel plans. But *strictly* Internet Explorer.
 http://gemelnet.mof.gov.il/

Thanks, I will write to them.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/5 Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org:
 Oh, lots! Ben-Gurion Airport, for one, e.g.,
 http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/he-IL/Airports/BenGurion/ and just about
 everything inside, notably the departures/arrivals/schedules
 pages.

I just got a reply back from them. Due to many pniot from the public,
there is a new website planned for 2010!

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/5 Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org:
Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com writes:

2009/1/5 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com:
from personal knowledge about the way stuff works there, I doubt this
will change anything.

Really? Walla Mail is now usable in firefox, and a few others. If you
know of Israeli websites that do not work in Firefox, please send to
me the addresses. Thanks!

Oh, lots! Ben-Gurion Airport, for one, e.g.,
http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/he-IL/Airports/BenGurion/ and just about
everything inside, notably the departures/arrivals/schedules
pages. They have numerous problems, the most glaring of which is using
backslash as path delimiter, which is understood only by IE. The site
does not work on Firefox or anything but IE even on Windows.

Wow, that is one of the worst sites that I have ever seen! In fact,
the information appears for a second then disappears. I wrote to them.
I suggest that you wait a few days (so that our letters do not seem
connected) and write to them as well. Who is the idiot who wrote
_that_ site?!?

Can you fix it? It is very useful, but hardly usable.

Not alone. Only if you help me by writing to them.

If you have any other IE-only sites, then _please_ let me know. Thanks.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-05 Thread Shachar Shemesh


Ori Idan wrote:

I tried the link given by Shachar.
The one demonstrating a flash that doesn't work? Or is it the one that 
links to Gal's blog, where he explains that the transition has just 
started, and that most videos are still not-flash?


Shachar

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/5 Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il:
 I noticed recently that the Ministry of Finance has a very nice site for
 comparing different gemel plans. But *strictly* Internet Explorer.
 http://gemelnet.mof.gov.il/
 With the ongoing economic situation, this site is very important to
 everyone, even poor Linux users.

Wow, all the links are vbscript! What a useless website!

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il wrote:

 Dotan Cohen wrote:

  2009/1/5 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com:


 from personal knowledge about the way stuff works there, I doubt this
 will change anything.




 Really? Walla Mail is now usable in firefox, and a few others. If you
 know of Israeli websites that do not work in Firefox, please send to
 me the addresses. Thanks!



 Hi Dotan:
 I noticed recently that the Ministry of Finance has a very nice site for
 comparing different gemel plans. But *strictly* Internet Explorer.
 http://gemelnet.mof.gov.il/
 With the ongoing economic situation, this site is very important to
 everyone, even poor Linux users.


Are you saying that we use Linux just because it is free (as in free beer)?
I don't think so.
Although I am sure most of us are not rich, I am sure that most of us are
not poor users.



 --
 Micha



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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-05 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com writes:

 2009/1/5 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com:
 from personal knowledge about the way stuff works there, I doubt this
 will change anything.


 Really? Walla Mail is now usable in firefox, and a few others. If you
 know of Israeli websites that do not work in Firefox, please send to
 me the addresses. Thanks!

Oh, lots! Ben-Gurion Airport, for one, e.g.,
http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/he-IL/Airports/BenGurion/ and just about
everything inside, notably the departures/arrivals/schedules
pages. They have numerous problems, the most glaring of which is using
backslash as path delimiter, which is understood only by IE. The site
does not work on Firefox or anything but IE even on Windows.

Can you fix it? It is very useful, but hardly usable.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009-01-05 Thread Alex Shnitman

  www.d.co.il (yellow pages) doesn't give any results to a search...

Worked fine for me: Firefox 3.0 Kubuntu 8.10

Indeed, it appears that my problem was some erroneous Adblock rule. With 
Adblock switched off, it functions properly.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

I still can not see the video, although I have flash 10 installed on my
firefox.

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On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.comwrote:

 2009/1/5 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz:
  According to Gal Mor's blog[2], however, this is being worked on, and
 they
  are slowly transitioning to flash based video, partly in order to
 increase
  non-Windows/IE support. I don't think there is anything to gain from
 bugging
  them at this point in time.

 And hopefully having such a major mainstream site bother to convert
 from a working windows/IE only technology to a more cross-platform one
 might convince others to rethink.

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/5 Alex Shnitman alext...@yahoo.com:
 www.d.co.il (yellow pages) doesn't give any results to a search...

Worked fine for me: Firefox 3.0 Kubuntu 8.10

 Ynet still doesn't function properly in regards to videos.

Where do you see video on ynet?

 www.cibus.co.il doesn't work with Firefox and states this on the front page.

I just wrote to them, thanks!

 I think there were more, I'll try to remember...


Walla video doesn't work either. If you have more, please send them. Thank!

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Re: israelt TV online (again)

2009/1/5 Ori Idan o...@helicontech.co.il:
 I still can not see the video, although I have flash 10 installed on my
 firefox.


Not all of them are flash, although the player looks identical. The
non-flash player appears with the first thumb, but will not play.

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