Re: where to host web server

2012-10-31 Thread vordoo 

  
  
Hi,

You can use  the free Google App Engine (GAE), like these guys did:


http://www.udacity.com/overview/Course/cs253/CourseRev/apr2012


http://gigaom.com/cloud/google-app-engine-is-ready-for-primetime-says-reddithipmunk-co-founder/

If your main rational is: Getting programs online involves a lot
  of sysadmin stuff that’s a giant pain. 

I do think part of your rational, for

 wanting it off
campus in the first place, is false.
1. You are the institute overseeing the course i.e: you are
responsible for the trouble the servers may cause, to the same
extent if they are located         on or off campus.
2. Surely you guys can isolate an on campus web server from the
internal network, as if it was hosted out side.

HTH,
-V  
  


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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-23 Thread Ori Berger 

On 10/23/2012 10:57 AM, Shahar Dag wrote:

The students will decide which web server and supporting programs to
install (but it will be Linux) and then install everything they need.

We cannot test in advanced that the web site & the machine behave in a
reasonable way.

Everything can be accessed internally via a limited network.


If this network is on the Technion network, and it has free access 
outside, everything bad that people described can happen. You just need 
an ssh tunnel or a  redirect, and you're on the 
open internet, almost equivalently to being there in the first place.



The problem starts for example if you want to test your system from a
mobile device via 3G. Here you need to open your system to the world.
Currently we can’t do it (for next year we will try to host a virtual
cluster in the DMZ).


one ssh -L to tx, or a pagekite account, is all it takes to make it 
accessible to everything and everyone. (I'm not suggesting you do that - 
I'm suggesting that being directly routeable is not a requirement for it 
to be "open").


If you want to test it from a mobile device, you can put a $30 wireless 
router, and set that mobile device to use that wireless router's wifi. 
If you want 3G speeds and problems, you can do traffic shaping.


If you can afford ~50nis/project, use a VPS server. A quick review of 
LowEndBox says you can get a 256MB VPS, internet routable, for $4/month, 
which would be 50 nis for a semester. (There are even cheaper options).



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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-23 Thread Nadav Har'El 
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012, Shahar Dag wrote about "RE: where to host web server":
> In a large system, you can't let users do whatever they want, you must
> protect your network. For example you will not let a user build & run a DNS
> server on the corporate network, you will give him a limited private
> network.

Treating your network as a "corporate network" is your first mistake ;-)
A university is not a corporation, it's an institute of *learning*.

And why-the-heck NOT allow a student to run a DNS server?? Why not allow
a student (say, graduate student) to host, for example some non-profit
organization like "hamakor.org.il" or "imu.org.il" (the Israeli
Mathematic Union)? And why not allow a student to develop the next
generation DNS server, or invent its next replacement - and allow the
student to try it on the real Internet?

Surely, not every student should be allowed such control, and not on every
host - there can be rules, quotas, designated computers with full
Internet access (while the rest are firewalled), and so on. If one student
uses a shared computer to run a DNS server and takes 90% of the its CPU,
or half the network bandwidth, or does something illegal or for commercial
benefit, he can be repremanded. But why do you need a blanket rule that no
student can ever have a DNS server, ever, regardless of reason? Just because
it's easier for the admins, and easy to enforce?

> If a Technion user misbehaves on the internet, it may block all the Technion
> from access to some sites. We would like to prevent it.

This is wrong. One might say the same thing about Amazon (who hosts
anybody) or any other place you send your students to. The reality is
that everybody knows that large institutions cannot prevent individuals
from misbehaving, and all anybody expects from you is to invest some
effort in catching these misbehaviors - not to ensure that they never
happen at all.

> If a student builds a web server, and the web server is open to the world,
> the student can use the server as a back door for anonymous entrance to the
> Technion via his server.  To prevent this we limit the scope of access.

Anonymous access to what - to his own files?
Yes, I know about privilige escalation bugs, and everything. I have
more than 20 years experience in system administration and computer
security ;-) But so what. Again - you're throwing out the baby with the
bathwater.

It's sad that I, who studied 20 years ago, had much more opportinity to
learn about Internet protocols than students who studies today - when it
should have been easier, not harder, to be a *server* on the Internet.

Again, I'm not saying the security concerns don't exist. I'm just
saying that they can be tolerated, to achieve the loftier goal which is
to let the students experiment.

> 20 years ago the internet considered a safe place, today it isn't so you
> must limit access.

No, 20 years ago the Internet was NOT a safe place, and every computer I
had access to during that period was cracked at least once - including
the most major computers in the Technion. But you know what - nothing
terrible happened! And if anything, the Internet became safer since, not
less safe. Today it's much easier to keep a (almost) hole-free computer,
to run iptables, to separate between different users (virtual machines,
computers, etc.), and so on.

The irony is that because of all these rules, what you end up doing is
looking for a host that doesn't have these rules :-)

P.S. If it wasn't clear yet, I'll repeat: I am not suggesting that every
single computer in the Technion should be globally routable (though this was
the case 20 years ago). What I'm suggesting is that every department
must have at least one or several such computers - running multi-user
Linux or some cloud software with VMs, or something - and allow students
to do things on it with some reasonable limitations (non-profit,
legality, etc.). It will be easier for the Technion to set such a thing
up, and it will not need to use Amazon and the likes.

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RE: where to host web server

2012-10-23 Thread Shahar Dag 
 

 

From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il]
On Behalf Of Oleg Goldshmidt
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 4:02 PM
To: Steve G.
Cc: IGLU Mailing list
Subject: Re: where to host web server

 

 

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Steve G.  wrote:

 

Easiest example - a server with poor password. If you are in the intranet,
and someone hacks into it and runs a DDOS on a local server, the admin will
shut the offending server down and that's the end of it. Ditto for an error
that creates infinite processing or broadcast loops. Do it to the outside
world, and you'll have the authorities at your door. 

 

A second example - unauthorized content. Host kiddy porn on your internal
account, and you'll be suspended (or your account closed till it is
secured). Have an external hacker serving same from your university server,
and you - and your institution and amin - will have to account to Interpol.

 

You get my drift - some things are better left outside, where responsibility
is the student's and the ISP's and not the Technion.


No, sorry, I don't get your drift. We are talking about a course project or
some such, i.e., a part of Technion's curriculum, where a student is
supposed to create a web site, and - I presume - his/her creation is
supposed to be tested and graded. 

Either the site is on the Technion's internal net and not accessible from
outside, or it is public and is open to the world to see. In the first case,
an internal host seems easier. In the latter case, what's the URL? I *do*
expect it to be something.technion.ac.il (what else?). 

In either case it is the Technion that will be responsible for the hosting
(networking, DNS, etc.), not the student. The student will just use
Technion's facility for his/her course work. In this case (creation of a web
site) I suppose the student will not even have any administrative
privileges. I absolutely do not see the Technion telling its students
"please enter into a hosting contract with Amazon on your own if you want to
pass this course". In any case, the hosting provider will deal with the
Technion, and if "authorities knock at the door" the Technion will have to
answer, and find the responsible student, and deal with it, etc.

If there is an illegal copy of Skyfall offered for download (or illegal
porn, or DDOS zombie, or whatever) then I do expect the Technion to be
liable equally regardless of the physical hosting facility. There may be a
difference related to which country it is hosted on - I would expect Israel
to be preferable for the Technion to anything else.

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OK I will try to clarify

The students will have sudo account on the machine (every project will have
its own machine)

The students will decide which web server and supporting programs to install
(but it will be Linux) and then install everything they need.

We cannot test in advanced that the web site & the machine behave in a
reasonable way.

Everything can be accessed internally via a limited network.

 

The problem starts for example if you want to test your system from a mobile
device via 3G. Here you need to open your system to the world. Currently we
can't do it (for next year we will try to host a virtual cluster in the
DMZ).

 

Shahar

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RE: where to host web server

2012-10-23 Thread Shahar Dag 
Hello

I will try to answer (at list partly)

Students have access from the Technion to the internet, so they can
investigate it (and in special cases, when research demands it, we take care
for exceptional access)

In a large system, you can't let users do whatever they want, you must
protect your network. For example you will not let a user build & run a DNS
server on the corporate network, you will give him a limited private
network.

If a Technion user misbehaves on the internet, it may block all the Technion
from access to some sites. We would like to prevent it.

If a student builds a web server, and the web server is open to the world,
the student can use the server as a back door for anonymous entrance to the
Technion via his server.  To prevent this we limit the scope of access.

To control all communication, you need a firewall that monitor communication
on the session level and not at the port & protocol level and you need
advanced analytic tools. This cost a lot of money, and not always available.

20 years ago the internet considered a safe place, today it isn't so you
must limit access.

Shahar


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From: Nadav Har'El [mailto:n...@math.technion.ac.il] 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 3:57 PM
To: Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
Cc: Shahar Dag; IGLU Mailing list
Subject: Re: where to host web server

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: where to host
web server":
> I think it is not a question of resources, but of policies and 
> firewall ports. The Technion does not allow any SMTP servers that are 
> not controlled by the system team, for example.

Look, specific policies about port 25 (SMTP) serve to solve a very specific
problem (spam bots) and the collateral damage is small (students and faculty
can't experiment with writing new mail servers).

This is quite a different thing than a broad policy that no
student-accessible computer in the technion may allow incoming connections.
That prevents development of all sort of Internet services, protocols, and
so on. I don't think I need to give here a list of Internet protocols and
servers which were developed in universities, and would not have had the
universities were so unnecessarily-strict back then. The smallest example
would be my very own "almost complete guide to the Israeli Internet", which
some of you may remember as my index of Israeli web sites in the early
1990s, which I created as a student and I learned *a lot* from this
experience. Today, I guess, the Technion would frown upon such enterprise.
Twenty years ago, people thought it was great that students learn about the
Internet and create new things...

Anyway, the original poster demonstrated why this policy is nothing but
stupid: Here he wants to teach students something, and can't because of
Technion policies, so he needs to turn to external companies to do this.
How does this make any educational sense?

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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Nadav Har'El 
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote about "Re: where to host web server":
> The smallest example would be my very own "almost complete guide
> to the Israeli Internet", which some of you may remember as my index of
> Israeli web sites in the early 1990s, which I created as a student and
> I learned *a lot* from this experience.

I just realised that most readers might not remember that site from 18 year
ago, so here is a news report from 1996 recommending my site, an ugly
URL on an obscure Technion computer, over walla.co.il ;-)

http://nadav.harel.org.il/israel/reviews/review1/

See, students' sites don't have to be big "fadichot" or security risks to the
Technion, sometimes they bring it good publicity. And *always* they teach
the student something (I can't even begin to list the various skills I
learned while developing that site). Shame to throw out the baby with the
bathwater.

BTW, for the curious, a replica of the old site, frozen in 1998, can be
found in http://nadav.harel.org.il/israel/index.html

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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt 
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Steve G.  wrote:

>
> Easiest example - a server with poor password. If you are in the intranet,
> and someone hacks into it and runs a DDOS on a local server, the admin will
> shut the offending server down and that's the end of it. Ditto for an error
> that creates infinite processing or broadcast loops. Do it to the outside
> world, and you'll have the authorities at your door.
>
> A second example - unauthorized content. Host kiddy porn on your internal
> account, and you'll be suspended (or your account closed till it is
> secured). Have an external hacker serving same from your university server,
> and you - and your institution and amin - will have to account to Interpol.
>
> You get my drift - some things are better left outside, where
> responsibility is the student's and the ISP's and not the Technion.
>

No, sorry, I don't get your drift. We are talking about a course project or
some such, i.e., a part of Technion's curriculum, where a student is
supposed to create a web site, and - I presume - his/her creation is
supposed to be tested and graded.

Either the site is on the Technion's internal net and not accessible from
outside, or it is public and is open to the world to see. In the first
case, an internal host seems easier. In the latter case, what's the URL? I
*do* expect it to be something.technion.ac.il (what else?).

In either case it is the Technion that will be responsible for the hosting
(networking, DNS, etc.), not the student. The student will just use
Technion's facility for his/her course work. In this case (creation of a
web site) I suppose the student will not even have any administrative
privileges. I absolutely do not see the Technion telling its students
"please enter into a hosting contract with Amazon on your own if you want
to pass this course". In any case, the hosting provider will deal with the
Technion, and if "authorities knock at the door" the Technion will have to
answer, and find the responsible student, and deal with it, etc.

If there is an illegal copy of Skyfall offered for download (or illegal
porn, or DDOS zombie, or whatever) then I do expect the Technion to be
liable equally regardless of the physical hosting facility. There may be a
difference related to which country it is hosted on - I would expect Israel
to be preferable for the Technion to anything else.

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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Nadav Har'El 
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: where to host web 
server":
> I think it is not a question of resources, but of policies and firewall
> ports. The Technion does not allow any SMTP servers that are not controlled
> by the system team, for example.

Look, specific policies about port 25 (SMTP) serve to solve a very
specific problem (spam bots) and the collateral damage is small
(students and faculty can't experiment with writing new mail servers).

This is quite a different thing than a broad policy that no
student-accessible computer in the technion may allow incoming
connections. That prevents development of all sort of Internet services,
protocols, and so on. I don't think I need to give here a list of
Internet protocols and servers which were developed in universities, and
would not have had the universities were so unnecessarily-strict back
then. The smallest example would be my very own "almost complete guide
to the Israeli Internet", which some of you may remember as my index of
Israeli web sites in the early 1990s, which I created as a student and
I learned *a lot* from this experience. Today, I guess, the Technion
would frown upon such enterprise. Twenty years ago, people thought it
was great that students learn about the Internet and create new
things...

Anyway, the original poster demonstrated why this policy is nothing but
stupid: Here he wants to teach students something, and can't because of
Technion policies, so he needs to turn to external companies to do this.
How does this make any educational sense?

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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Steve G. 
1. Where do I go to produce meth? Any such public domain labs in Haifa? Tel
Aviv?

2. Joking aside, there have been cases (in the US) where chemists in
industry and academe have produced drugs (predates meth) for commercial
purposes.

3. Regardless, there is a difference between getting an experience in
programming and hosting a live web site. A student can create lots of
stuff, including services, which as long as they reside on the internal
network are not a risk, while opening them to outside use can create a
problem.

Easiest example - a server with poor password. If you are in the intranet,
and someone hacks into it and runs a DDOS on a local server, the admin will
shut the offending server down and that's the end of it. Ditto for an error
that creates infinite processing or broadcast loops. Do it to the outside
world, and you'll have the authorities at your door.

A second example - unauthorized content. Host kiddy porn on your internal
account, and you'll be suspended (or your account closed till it is
secured). Have an external hacker serving same from your university server,
and you - and your institution and amin - will have to account to Interpol.

You get my drift - some things are better left outside, where
responsibility is the student's and the ISP's and not the Technion.

Z.

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: where to host
> web server":
> > This will also not blacklist the Technion with regards to other mail
> > servers, and enable error-free monitoring of wild SMTP servers (viral
> ones).
>
> Next thing you know, the Technion's chemistry department will close down
> its labs, since students can use them to produce meth... If a student
> wants to actually do a chemistry experiment, he can rent a table in
> a nearby chemistry-lab-for-hire, and do it there.
>
> People come to the Technion to learn. To learn, you need to be allowed
> to experiment. If certain students choose to experiment with illegal
> things, let them be caught - but don't ban all experimentation.
>
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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Nadav Har'El 
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: where to host web 
server":
> This will also not blacklist the Technion with regards to other mail
> servers, and enable error-free monitoring of wild SMTP servers (viral ones).

Next thing you know, the Technion's chemistry department will close down
its labs, since students can use them to produce meth... If a student
wants to actually do a chemistry experiment, he can rent a table in
a nearby chemistry-lab-for-hire, and do it there.

People come to the Technion to learn. To learn, you need to be allowed
to experiment. If certain students choose to experiment with illegal
things, let them be caught - but don't ban all experimentation.

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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda 
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Elazar Leibovich  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity, what is the security limitation? Even if hosted
>> externally, I'd expect the machines to "logically belong" to the Technion
>> (e.g., in the "technion.ac.il" sense as well as in every legal sense)
>>
>
> If students host illegal material on AWS, the cops might force them to
> give away they password. They won't however confiscate physical hardware
> from the Technion with warrant.
>
>
This will also not blacklist the Technion with regards to other mail
servers, and enable error-free monitoring of wild SMTP servers (viral ones).

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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Elazar Leibovich 
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt  wrote:

> Out of curiosity, what is the security limitation? Even if hosted
> externally, I'd expect the machines to "logically belong" to the Technion
> (e.g., in the "technion.ac.il" sense as well as in every legal sense)
>

If students host illegal material on AWS, the cops might force them to give
away they password. They won't however confiscate physical hardware from
the Technion with warrant.
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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt 
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Shahar Dag  wrote:

> Hello
>
> ** **
>
> I am the system administrator of a teaching laboratory at the Technion.***
> *
>
> We would like to give the students in a project that involve developing a
> web site (sorry, I don't have any additional details here) a dedicate
> machine.
>
> Due to the Technion security limitation, we can't do it in house, so we
> are looking to host the project somewhere outside the Technion.
>

Out of curiosity, what is the security limitation? Even if hosted
externally, I'd expect the machines to "logically belong" to the Technion
(e.g., in the "technion.ac.il" sense as well as in every legal sense) and
be accessible from (at least some) computers that are physically connected
to the internal Technion network, as well as from computers that can be
connected to the Technion network (students' laptops, etc.). What do you
expect from external hosting that you cannot do in your lab, securely?

I can easily imagine that Amazon or other external hosting may be
cost-effective compared to an internal VM (or other) farm. But cost is not
stated as the primary issue here.

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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda 
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012, Shahar Dag wrote about "where to host web server":
> > Due to the Technion security limitation, we can't do it in house, so we
> are
> > looking to host the project somewhere outside the Technion. We don't need
>
> This is SO SAD :( The end-to-end Internet is dead :(
> O tempora, o mores :(
>
> I don't propose that every secretary's computer in the Technion need an
> unlimited connection to the Internet, but not giving every student
> access to at least one computer or server, or something, which has an
> unlimited connection to the Internet, is sad, and stupid.
>
> How are students supposed to invent the next great thing in Internet
> protocols, in Web technology, or whatever?
>
> Sure, you can tell them to get a server on Amazon. But you don't need to
> be a student in the Technion to do that. If people outside the Technion
> have more opportuinities and resources than students inside the Technion,
> why come study in the Technion? :(
>
>
I think it is not a question of resources, but of policies and firewall
ports. The Technion does not allow any SMTP servers that are not controlled
by the system team, for example.


> Nadav.
>
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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Nadav Har'El 
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012, Shahar Dag wrote about "where to host web server":
> Due to the Technion security limitation, we can't do it in house, so we are
> looking to host the project somewhere outside the Technion. We don't need

This is SO SAD :( The end-to-end Internet is dead :(
O tempora, o mores :(

I don't propose that every secretary's computer in the Technion need an
unlimited connection to the Internet, but not giving every student
access to at least one computer or server, or something, which has an
unlimited connection to the Internet, is sad, and stupid.

How are students supposed to invent the next great thing in Internet
protocols, in Web technology, or whatever?

Sure, you can tell them to get a server on Amazon. But you don't need to
be a student in the Technion to do that. If people outside the Technion
have more opportuinities and resources than students inside the Technion,
why come study in the Technion? :(

Nadav.


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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-18 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda 
You can submit a grant request to Amazon. http://aws.amazon.com/grants/ -
see the "Educators" tag.

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Shahar Dag  wrote:

> Hello
>
> ** **
>
> I am the system administrator of a teaching laboratory at the Technion.***
> *
>
> We would like to give the students in a project that involve developing a
> web site (sorry, I don't have any additional details here) a dedicate
> machine.
>
> Due to the Technion security limitation, we can't do it in house, so we
> are looking to host the project somewhere outside the Technion. We don't
> need something strong and by the end of the academic year we will erase
> everything. We can't use sites that demand that everything will be public
> domain since we need that one group will not be able to "borrow" ideas from
> other groups.
>
> If possible we prefer free hosting.
>
> Do you have any suggestions for me?
>
> What are the factors I need to consider when choosing the hosting site?***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks
>
> Shahar Dag
> System & Software Development Laboratory (SSDL)
> Computer Science Department
> Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
> Haifa, Israel
> Tel. 972-4-829-4880
> Fax 972-4-829-4878
>
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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-18 Thread Amos Shapira 
Sounds like an ideal fit for Amazon AWS - they have a free tire for the
first year from time that an account was opened.
On Oct 18, 2012 9:35 PM, "Shahar Dag"  wrote:

> Hello
>
> ** **
>
> I am the system administrator of a teaching laboratory at the Technion.***
> *
>
> We would like to give the students in a project that involve developing a
> web site (sorry, I don't have any additional details here) a dedicate
> machine.
>
> Due to the Technion security limitation, we can't do it in house, so we
> are looking to host the project somewhere outside the Technion. We don't
> need something strong and by the end of the academic year we will erase
> everything. We can't use sites that demand that everything will be public
> domain since we need that one group will not be able to "borrow" ideas from
> other groups.
>
> If possible we prefer free hosting.
>
> Do you have any suggestions for me?
>
> What are the factors I need to consider when choosing the hosting site?***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks
>
> Shahar Dag
> System & Software Development Laboratory (SSDL)
> Computer Science Department
> Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
> Haifa, Israel
> Tel. 972-4-829-4880
> Fax 972-4-829-4878
>
> ** **
>
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