Re: openstreetmap

2007-10-25 Thread Meir Michanie

> By the way, have you seen www.mapa.co.il? I was under the impression that
it
> cost money - a lot of money - to use, but today I went there, and was
amazed.
> It seems to be free, it has Google-maps-like ("AJAX") interface that works
> well in Firefox, it has street-maps, satelite pictures and a combined
view,
> and even pictures of individual buildings! It also has trip planning.
Heck,
> I couldn't find any useful feature of Google maps that mapa.co.il doesn't
> have, and apparently for free.
> 

I would like to use a maps I can load into maemo mapper for the n800 and I
do not think that mapa would fill the bill.

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Re: openstreetmap

2007-10-25 Thread Micha Silver



Amos Shapira wrote:

On 25/10/2007, *Meir Michanie* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


I uploaded some tracks to openstreetmap and I having dificulties
to use its
interface.  If anyone can contact me it would help me to load some
tracks
and hopefully help creating a free map for Israel.



This is ridiculous, have you seen Google Maps recently? All of the 
middle east is covered with road information except Israel: 
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=israel 
<http://maps.google.com/maps?q=israel>
True, it's not as full as many other places (Brazil, New-Zealand, to 
name some "obvious" leaders) but you can find details about the tiny 
alleys of Cairo, for instance.


On the other hand, the ymap site is well detailed. If I zoom into my 
moshav, I can see the football field, swimming pool and even dirt roads:


http://ymap.co.il/Navigate.aspx?tab=1&CityNmS=%E0%E9%EC%FA&StreetNmS=&HouseNbrS=&Mode=1



(In case anyone got it wrong - this is nothing to do with Meir's work, 
it's more about frustration with the stupid government we have than 
anything else).


--Amos



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Re: openstreetmap

2007-10-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007, Amos Shapira wrote about "Re: openstreetmap":
> (In case anyone got it wrong - this is nothing to do with Meir's work, it's
> more about frustration with the stupid government we have than anything
> else).

Why are you sure that this is actually the Israeli government's fault?

Obviously, the Israeli government has no problem with street maps, and
a bunch of companies already publish those, whether on paper or electronically.
Perhaps there are a bit of rules (e.g., you must not mark the textile factory
down south as "A Nuclear Reactor, Bomb Here" sign), but these are obviously
not too draconic, judging by the very good maps that do exist of Israel (my
favorite is the one by "Mapa", and I've been using the printed version for 10
years now).

So my guess that it's not the Israeli government's fault, but rather the
greedy Israeli companies, which ask Google too much for the data (naturally,
Google would want to buy the data, not to start an Israeli mapping project
on their own).

By the way, have you seen www.mapa.co.il? I was under the impression that it
cost money - a lot of money - to use, but today I went there, and was amazed.
It seems to be free, it has Google-maps-like ("AJAX") interface that works
well in Firefox, it has street-maps, satelite pictures and a combined view,
and even pictures of individual buildings! It also has trip planning. Heck,
I couldn't find any useful feature of Google maps that mapa.co.il doesn't
have, and apparently for free.

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Re: openstreetmap

2007-10-25 Thread Meir Michanie
1. my conspiracy theory is that the goverment is influenced by economical 
interest of local vendors of map software.
2. It is the same schizophrenia as with the aeral space.
Meir Michanie
www.riunx.com

- Original message -
From: Amos Shapira  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Sent: Thu Oct 25 2007 12:49:32 AM IST
Subject: Re: openstreetmap
On 25/10/2007, Meir Michanie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I uploaded some tracks to openstreetmap and I having dificulties to use
> its
> interface.  If anyone can contact me it would help me to load some tracks
> and hopefully help creating a free map for Israel.



This is ridiculous, have you seen Google Maps recently? All of the middle
east is covered with road information except Israel:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=israel
True, it's not as full as many other places (Brazil, New-Zealand, to name
some "obvious" leaders) but you can find details about the tiny alleys of
Cairo, for instance.


(In case anyone got it wrong - this is nothing to do with Meir's work, it's
more about frustration with the stupid government we have than anything
else).

--Amos




Re: openstreetmap

2007-10-24 Thread Amos Shapira
On 25/10/2007, Meir Michanie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I uploaded some tracks to openstreetmap and I having dificulties to use
> its
> interface.  If anyone can contact me it would help me to load some tracks
> and hopefully help creating a free map for Israel.



This is ridiculous, have you seen Google Maps recently? All of the middle
east is covered with road information except Israel:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=israel
True, it's not as full as many other places (Brazil, New-Zealand, to name
some "obvious" leaders) but you can find details about the tiny alleys of
Cairo, for instance.


(In case anyone got it wrong - this is nothing to do with Meir's work, it's
more about frustration with the stupid government we have than anything
else).

--Amos


openstreetmap

2007-10-24 Thread Meir Michanie
I uploaded some tracks to openstreetmap and I having dificulties to use its
interface.  If anyone can contact me it would help me to load some tracks
and hopefully help creating a free map for Israel.

TIA

P.S.  if you want to see my tracks i tag them with the words "Petach Tikwa" 
user riunx.

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OpenStreetMap project

2007-10-02 Thread Arieh Skliarouk
Hi,

Some time ago here was discussion about http://www.freemap.co.il/
which turned out to be commercial project in disguse.

Recently I got involved in truly open street mapping project
http://openstreetmap.org.

I have created an wiki page to unify all Israel-related edits over here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Israel

Feel free to contribute!

-- 
Arieh

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