Re: recomendation for an Israely registrar and web hosting

2010-04-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh

Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

Hi,
(Disclosure: I work at Hostdime)

Micha, as for registrar, all of them are more or less the same here in 
Israel, they all dealing with ISOC and the differences is the price 
you pay.

I disagree with this statement.

DomainTheNet, for example, have a horrific interface if you want to 
manage multiple domains for multiple entities. I have had cases where 
changing one domain's contact information affected the other domains. 
Isoc's method of handles is non-intuitive for non-programmers, but it 
is very concise in who a change affects.


Shachar

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Re: recomendation for an Israely registrar and web hosting

2010-04-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi,
(Disclosure: I work at Hostdime)

Micha, as for registrar, all of them are more or less the same here in
Israel, they all dealing with ISOC and the differences is the price you pay.

As for basic web hosting, it really depends on few parameters:

   - Do you want to host it in a shared hosting? VPS? dedicated server?
   - Does your code/content requires heavy cpu/network/disk usage, if (and
   when) it's being accessed?
   - Does it matters where it is located? (Israel, USA, Europe etc...)
   - Is backup service important to you?
   - Do you require any specific PHP modules/Java (server side) or any other
   external libraries which needs to be installed system wide?
   - How much are you willing to pay?

IMHO you should take these points, think about them, and then look for a
hosting solution.

Thanks,
Hetz

2010/4/25 Micha mi...@post.tau.ac.il

 I remember some talk here some time ago about problematic registrars and
 options for web hosting. I hope that this is not too off topic and
 flammable, but I was hoping for some recommendations for an Israeli domain
 name registrar (.co.il and .org.il) and basic web hosting (html, possibly
 php, for a basic web site, probably moderate traffic)

 Thanks

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Re: recomendation for an Israely registrar and web hosting

2010-04-25 Thread Micha

On 25/04/10 08:59, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

Hi,
(Disclosure: I work at Hostdime)

Micha, as for registrar, all of them are more or less the same here in
Israel, they all dealing with ISOC and the differences is the price you pay.



Thanks, I just recalled someone talking about checking availability and a day 
later the site was taken, which is what I'm afraid of.


So you are saying that everyone at
http://www.isoc.org.il/domain_heb/registration.html
is ok?

As for cost, they all seem the same price (80 NIS a year)

It's not an Israely one, but I heard some horror stories regarding goDaddy for 
example (freezing domain names, etc.)



As for basic web hosting, it really depends on few parameters:

* Do you want to host it in a shared hosting? VPS? dedicated server?
* Does your code/content requires heavy cpu/network/disk usage, if
  (and when) it's being accessed?
* Does it matters where it is located? (Israel, USA, Europe etc...)
* Is backup service important to you?
* Do you require any specific PHP modules/Java (server side) or any
  other external libraries which needs to be installed system wide?
* How much are you willing to pay?

IMHO you should take these points, think about them, and then look for a
hosting solution.



I'm looking to setup a basic site for my wife for a small business.
it will probably be mostly html, maybe some php to allow her to change some 
aspects without going into html (basic dynamic content creation based on file in 
the directory or simple inclusion / processing of text files).


No need to collect data, backup, etc. Possibly only mail support to setup a 
contact me page.


I would be happy if it will be high volume since it would say a lot of potential 
customers, but I'm guessing pretty low traffic.


Would prefer something relatively cheep as a start to see how things pick up.
Once there is some cache inflow, it's easier to justify cache outflow ...


Thanks,
Hetz

2010/4/25 Micha mi...@post.tau.ac.il mailto:mi...@post.tau.ac.il

I remember some talk here some time ago about problematic registrars
and options for web hosting. I hope that this is not too off topic
and flammable, but I was hoping for some recommendations for an
Israeli domain name registrar (.co.il http://co.il and .org.il
http://org.il) and basic web hosting (html, possibly php, for a
basic web site, probably moderate traffic)

Thanks

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Re: recomendation for an Israely registrar and web hosting

2010-04-25 Thread Amos Shapira
On 26 April 2010 03:39, Micha mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
 It's not an Israely one, but I heard some horror stories regarding goDaddy 
 for example (freezing domain names, etc.)

I don't know where this comes from.
I've been managing about 98 domains for about 3 years now with them
and have no problems at all.
Even more so - when transferring domains TO them FROM another
registrar I learned that GoDaddy actually offer a way to speed the
domain transfer (if it's transffered FROM them) which most others
don't, and had to wait the standard 5 business days cool-off period
for the other registrar to give away the domain.

Their SSL certificates seem to have problems with not-latest Java
JVM's not recognising their CA yet, but otherwise they are good too
and the cheapest I remember.

 I'm looking to setup a basic site for my wife for a small business.
 it will probably be mostly html, maybe some php to allow her to change some 
 aspects without going into html (basic dynamic content creation based on file 
 in the directory or simple inclusion / processing of text files).

I'm NOT a web site expert but had to setup a web site for my wife. The
site designer opted for HTML and PHP and now we are stuck with a nice
but home brewed web site which is a chore to maintain. I'd recommend
checking systems like Drupal/WordPress etc even for a small site. I've
been trying to switch over but didn't have time to complete it. If you
go this path then you might want to check sites like drupal.org.il
which might be able to help finding drupal hosting (and probably
similar sites for other CMS).

(I can't give recommendations about Israeli hosts as the site I'm
talking about is in Australia).


 No need to collect data, backup, etc. Possibly only mail support to setup a 
 contact me page.

 I would be happy if it will be high volume since it would say a lot of 
 potential customers, but I'm guessing pretty low traffic.

 Would prefer something relatively cheep as a start to see how things pick up.
 Once there is some cache inflow, it's easier to justify cache outflow ...

Smart point! I hear about people splashing on a too expensive web site
(and other perks) with no justification.

Good luck,

--Amos

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recomendation for an Israely registrar and web hosting

2010-04-24 Thread Micha
I remember some talk here some time ago about problematic registrars and options 
for web hosting. I hope that this is not too off topic and flammable, but I was 
hoping for some recommendations for an Israeli domain name registrar (.co.il and 
.org.il) and basic web hosting (html, possibly php, for a basic web site, 
probably moderate traffic)


Thanks

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