Re: windows XP, Linux double boot on IBM Thinkpad T30

2005-06-09 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:50:46PM +, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

> An additional comment: if you happen to know that one of the NTFS
> partitions is of a suitable size and is not used for anything (e.g. is
> kept for data only, and you don't have any data), why not just
> reformat it and install Linux on it?

There may be three partitions on the drive:

1. The hidden partition with IBM diagnostic stuff.
2. The Main windows XP partition.
3. An extended partition.

The extra NTFS partitions may be in the extended partiton.

This would make life very difficult. Linux will happily live in an extended
partition, however, you can't boot from one. So you would have to have a 
real partition for linux to boot from. Dead Rat wants 100meg for it, I have
never needed more than 32.

Boot from a standalone linux CD and tell us the results of an fdisk print.

Geoff.

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Re: windows XP, Linux double boot on IBM Thinkpad T30

2005-06-09 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shimon Panfil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi Folks,
> I've got IBM Thinkpad T30 from my employer with windows XP Pro installed
> and hard disk already divided into 3 logical ones all with NTFS. I want
> to install Linux on this machine without killing windows. Does anybody
> here have first hand experience with this mission? For a reason I will
> not have second attempt so just experimenting is out of question. I am
> aware live CD Linuxen and will take this route if safe installation is
> impossible.
> TIA, Shimon

First, a disclaimer: I have never done this myself, so this is not an
answer to your question regarding first hand experience.

Now, I have *seen* it done quite a few times, including my own TP
(dual-bootable with Linux and XP Pro), here at IBM. So I claim that it
is possible. ;-)

Our systems guys use PartitionMagic to resize partitions and then
create other partitions (e.g. for Linux). They have also resized the
partitions (reducing Windows and giving more space to Linux) for me
several times.

So, it is possible, but two catches are: a) you need PartitionMagic or
equivalent (I personally wouldn't trust fdisk with the task), and b)
you should better let someone experienced do it.

An additional comment: if you happen to know that one of the NTFS
partitions is of a suitable size and is not used for anything (e.g. is
kept for data only, and you don't have any data), why not just
reformat it and install Linux on it?

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Re: windows XP, Linux double boot on IBM Thinkpad T30

2005-06-09 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
I forgot 1 thing..

There's a hidden partition which includes IBM rescue with XP and
everything, so if you want to erase it, please set things accordinly
in the BIOS first.

Hetz

On 6/9/05, Shimon Panfil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> I've got IBM Thinkpad T30 from my employer with windows XP Pro installed
> and hard disk already divided into 3 logical ones all with NTFS. I want
> to install Linux on this machine without killing windows. Does anybody
> here have first hand experience with this mission? For a reason I will
> not have second attempt so just experimenting is out of question. I am
> aware live CD Linuxen and will take this route if safe installation is
> impossible.
> TIA, Shimon
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Re: windows XP, Linux double boot on IBM Thinkpad T30

2005-06-09 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
I had T30 with Linux installed.

It worked very well, although IRDA had few issues that needed manual
configurations.

I used Fedora Core 2.

Thanks and good luck,
Hetz

On 6/9/05, Shimon Panfil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> I've got IBM Thinkpad T30 from my employer with windows XP Pro installed
> and hard disk already divided into 3 logical ones all with NTFS. I want
> to install Linux on this machine without killing windows. Does anybody
> here have first hand experience with this mission? For a reason I will
> not have second attempt so just experimenting is out of question. I am
> aware live CD Linuxen and will take this route if safe installation is
> impossible.
> TIA, Shimon
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> Shimon Panfil(http://www.panfil.org/panfil)
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Re: windows XP, Linux double boot on IBM Thinkpad T30

2005-06-09 Thread shimi
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 12:29 +0300, Shimon Panfil wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> I've got IBM Thinkpad T30 from my employer with windows XP Pro installed
> and hard disk already divided into 3 logical ones all with NTFS. I want
> to install Linux on this machine without killing windows. Does anybody
> here have first hand experience with this mission? For a reason I will
> not have second attempt so just experimenting is out of question. I am
> aware live CD Linuxen and will take this route if safe installation is
> impossible.
> TIA, Shimon

Erasing the last partitions (from within Windows) to free room
(unpartitioned space), and using the installer to create linux
partitions in that space is all you need. Most  (all?) famous
distributions will install a bootloader to dual-boot for you without you
needing to change anything..

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windows XP, Linux double boot on IBM Thinkpad T30

2005-06-09 Thread Shimon Panfil
Hi Folks,
I've got IBM Thinkpad T30 from my employer with windows XP Pro installed
and hard disk already divided into 3 logical ones all with NTFS. I want
to install Linux on this machine without killing windows. Does anybody
here have first hand experience with this mission? For a reason I will
not have second attempt so just experimenting is out of question. I am
aware live CD Linuxen and will take this route if safe installation is
impossible.
TIA, Shimon
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"Dragons are REAL unless declared INTEGER"

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