Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:17:27 +0100,
Olivier Galibert wrote:
 
 On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 06:59:34AM +0100, Rene Herman wrote:
  Totally unrelated indeed so why are spouting crap? If the kohab list has a 
  problem take it up with them but keep ALSA out of it. alsa-devel has only 
  ever moderated out spam -- nothing else.
 
 That is incorrect.  Hopefully it is the case now though, since my
 experience of the subject was years ago.

Yeah, it was really years ago that we once switched to the open list.
Funny that people never forget such a thing :)


Takashi


Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Jörn Engel
On Thu, 15 November 2007 13:26:51 +0100, Rene Herman wrote:
 
 Can you please just shelve this crap? You have a way of knowing that ALSA 
 will accept you and that is knowing or assuming that the ALSA project 
 doesn't consist of drooling retards.

Well, my experience with moderation has been that moderated mails are
stuck in some queue for weeks.  Two seperate lists, neither of them was
alsa.  If also is doing a better job, great.  But it still has to live
with the general reputation of non-subscriber moderation.

 When a project list goes to the difficulty of moderating non-subscribers it 
 has made the explicit choice to _not_ become subscriber only. Then refusing 
 valid non-subscribers after all makes no sense whatsoever. I'm sorry you 
 got your feelings hurt by that other list but it was no doubt an accident; 
 take it up with them.

Been there, done that.  In spite of people not being drooling retards,
the amount of time and effort they invest into either moderation or
improving the ruleset is quite limited.  Problems persist.

And even without mails being held hostage for weeks, every single
moderation mail is annoying.  Like the one I'm sure to receive after
sending this out.

Jörn

-- 
Joern's library part 5:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/compression-faq/part2/section-9.html


Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Theodore Tso
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:23:34PM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote:
 I don't see any reason that we couldn't have a tool accessible to Ubuntu 
 users that does a real git bisect. Git is really good at being scripted 
 by fancy GUIs. It should be easy enough to have a drop down with all of 
 the Ubuntu kernel package releases, where the user selects what works and 
 what doesn't.

It's possible users who haven't yet downloaded a git repository have
to surmount some obstacles that might cause them to lose interest.
First, they have to download some 190 megs of git repository, and if
they have a slow link, that can take a while, and then they have to
build each kernel, which can take a while.  A full kernel build with
everything selected can take good 30 minutes or more, and that's on a
fast dual-core machine with 4gigs of memory and 7200rpm disk drives.
On a slower, memory limited laptop, doing a single kernel build can
take more time than the user has patiences; multiply that by 7 or 8
build and test boots, and it starts to get tiresome.  

And then on top of that there are the issues about whether there is
enough support for dealing with hitting kernel revisions that fail due
to other bugs getting merged in during the -rc1 process, etc.

I agree that a tool that automated the bisection process and walked
the user through it would be helpful, but I believe it would be
possible for us do better.

- Ted


[PATCH] remove dead MAC_ADBKEYCODES

2007-11-15 Thread Stanislav Brabec
It seems, that current kernel source code contains no traces of
MAC_ADBKEYCODES and no reference to keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes any
more.

Attached patch removes them from configuration files.

Signed-off-by: Stanislav Brabec [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--- a/arch/m68k/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/m68k/Kconfig
@@ -582,20 +582,6 @@ config MAC_HID
depends on INPUT_ADBHID
default y
 
-config MAC_ADBKEYCODES
-   bool Support for ADB raw keycodes
-   depends on INPUT_ADBHID
-   help
- This provides support for sending raw ADB keycodes to console
- devices.  This is the default up to 2.4.0, but in future this may be
- phased out in favor of generic Linux keycodes.  If you say Y here,
- you can dynamically switch via the
- /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes
- sysctl and with the keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes= kernel
- argument.
-
- If unsure, say Y here.
-
 config ADB_KEYBOARD
bool Support for ADB keyboard (old driver)
depends on MAC  !INPUT_ADBHID
--- a/arch/m68k/configs/mac_defconfig
+++ b/arch/m68k/configs/mac_defconfig
@@ -678,7 +678,6 @@ CONFIG_LOGO_MAC_CLUT224=y
 #
 CONFIG_MAC_SCC=y
 CONFIG_MAC_HID=y
-CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES=y
 CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE=y
 
 #


-- 
Best Regards / S pozdravem,

Stanislav Brabec
software developer
-
SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lihovarská 1060/12tel: +420 284 028 966
190 00 Praha 9fax: +420 284 028 951
Czech Republichttp://www.suse.cz/



Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Ben Dooks
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:34:37PM +, Russell King wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 06:25:16PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
   Given the wide range of ARM platforms today, it is utterly idiotic to
   expect a single person to be able to provide responses for all ARM bugs.
   I for one wish I'd never *VOLUNTEERED* to be a part of the kernel
   bugzilla, and really *WISH* I could pull out of that function.
  
  You can. Perhaps that bugzilla needs to point to some kind of
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for the various ARM platform
  maintainers ?
 
 That might work - though it would be hard to get all the platform
 maintainers to be signed up to yet another mailing list, I'm sure
 sufficient would do.

As long as it would just be bug reports, I'm sure that most of us
could be persuaded to subscribe. Adding another list for general
discussions is probably not going to be read, the current list
provides more than enough to keep us busy.

-- 
Ben

Q:  What's a light-year?
A:  One-third less calories than a regular year.



Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 01:50:43PM +1100, Neil Brown wrote:
 Virtual Folders.
 
 I use VM mode in EMACS, but I believe some other mail readers have the
 same functionality.
 I have a virtual folder called nfs which shows me all mail in my
 inbox which has the string 'nfs' or 'lockd' in a To, Cc, or Subject
 field.  When I visit that folder, I see all mail about nfs, whether it
 was sent to me personally, or to a relevant list, or to lkml.

Hm (googling around for mutt and virtual folders): looks like I can
get most of the way there in mutt with some macros based on its limit
command:

http://www.tummy.com/journals/entries/jafo_20060303_00

Thanks.--b.