Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread J Sloan

Ronald Bultje wrote:

> I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in
> my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me
> that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128
> MB RAM and that he's NOT having severe stability problems?

I don't have the answer for your situation, but in
answer to one of your questions I can happily
enumerate the following boxes I installed, all of
which are running 2.4.x kernels on Red Hat 7.1
with excellent stability and performance:

"Name Brand" boxes:
(3) Dell 2450s, Dual P3-1000, 512 MB RAM
(2) HP Netservers, P3-700, 512 MB RAM
Compaq 6500, Quad PPro 200, 1 GB RAM

Self built clone boxes:
AMD K6/2 450, 256 MB RAM, low end ASUS mb
P3-933, 512 MB RAM, Intel i810 motherboard
P3-866, 512 MB RAM, Aopen motherboard
and more -

These boxes either have an uptime dating from
the initial 7.1 install (60+ days), or from the last
kernel update -

cu

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Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread J Sloan

Ronald Bultje wrote:

 I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in
 my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me
 that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128
 MB RAM and that he's NOT having severe stability problems?

I don't have the answer for your situation, but in
answer to one of your questions I can happily
enumerate the following boxes I installed, all of
which are running 2.4.x kernels on Red Hat 7.1
with excellent stability and performance:

Name Brand boxes:
(3) Dell 2450s, Dual P3-1000, 512 MB RAM
(2) HP Netservers, P3-700, 512 MB RAM
Compaq 6500, Quad PPro 200, 1 GB RAM

Self built clone boxes:
AMD K6/2 450, 256 MB RAM, low end ASUS mb
P3-933, 512 MB RAM, Intel i810 motherboard
P3-866, 512 MB RAM, Aopen motherboard
and more -

These boxes either have an uptime dating from
the initial 7.1 install (60+ days), or from the last
kernel update -

cu

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[OT] Re: ipchains

2001-06-18 Thread J Sloan

Ted Gervais wrote:

> I just ran into something odd. To me anyways, it was odd.
> I just installed and brought up kernel 2.4.5 and my ipchains failed.
> So I upgraded to the latest (that I could find) ipchains-1.3.10, and
> that also fails.
>
> Has anyone got any version of ipchains to work with the new(er) kernels?

For what it's worth, Red Hat 7.1 ships iptables
with ipchains emulation, which works out of the
box on their 2.4.2 kernel

cu

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[OT] Re: ipchains

2001-06-18 Thread J Sloan

Ted Gervais wrote:

 I just ran into something odd. To me anyways, it was odd.
 I just installed and brought up kernel 2.4.5 and my ipchains failed.
 So I upgraded to the latest (that I could find) ipchains-1.3.10, and
 that also fails.

 Has anyone got any version of ipchains to work with the new(er) kernels?

For what it's worth, Red Hat 7.1 ships iptables
with ipchains emulation, which works out of the
box on their 2.4.2 kernel

cu

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[OT] Re: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!

2001-06-15 Thread J Sloan

Tobias Ringstrom wrote:

> Ah... the joy of reading mail using non-MS software, on a non-MS OS...
>
> Hahaha, indeed!

Indeed, since:

Jun 15 15:39:03 mirai sendmail[21499]: f5FMd2t21499:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=33547, class=-60, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bodytype=7BIT, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA,
relay=freeside.toyota.com [63.87.74.7]
Jun 15 15:39:03 mirai scanmails[21501]: execution started
Jun 15 15:39:04 mirai scanmails[21501]: FOUND VIRUS IN MAIL from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to jjs

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[OT] Re: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!

2001-06-15 Thread J Sloan

Tobias Ringstrom wrote:

 Ah... the joy of reading mail using non-MS software, on a non-MS OS...

 Hahaha, indeed!

Indeed, since:

Jun 15 15:39:03 mirai sendmail[21499]: f5FMd2t21499:
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=33547, class=-60, nrcpts=1,
msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], bodytype=7BIT, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA,
relay=freeside.toyota.com [63.87.74.7]
Jun 15 15:39:03 mirai scanmails[21501]: execution started
Jun 15 15:39:04 mirai scanmails[21501]: FOUND VIRUS IN MAIL from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to jjs

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[OT] Re: inetd missing

2001-06-13 Thread J Sloan

Blesson Paul wrote:

> hi
>   I just brought a CD of RedHat 7. Unfortunately I
> couldn't find the inetd rpm. wheather it is missing or it is in any other
> name

It's xinetd -

BTW You might think about RH 7.1 since 7.0
was the end of the line for the legacy 2.2. kernel -

cu

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[OT] Re: inetd missing

2001-06-13 Thread J Sloan

Blesson Paul wrote:

 hi
   I just brought a CD of RedHat 7. Unfortunately I
 couldn't find the inetd rpm. wheather it is missing or it is in any other
 name

It's xinetd -

BTW You might think about RH 7.1 since 7.0
was the end of the line for the legacy 2.2. kernel -

cu

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[OT]: Tux vs khttpd? (fwd)

2001-06-12 Thread J Sloan

Hi Roy,

IIRC Ingo posted some tux benchmark results on
the khttpd mailing list some weeks ago - basically
khttpd is not in the same ballpark at this point.

cu

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Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I tried to send this message to the khttpd group, but got no answer. Can
> any of you help me?
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:31:20 +
> From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Tux vs khttpd?
>
> hi
>
> Does anyone know any details about how Tux performs in comparison with
> khttpd?
> Is this a separate project, or is it a somehow 'better version' of the
> khttpd?
> Are these going to be merged?
>
> roy
> -
> Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
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[OT]: Tux vs khttpd? (fwd)

2001-06-12 Thread J Sloan

Hi Roy,

IIRC Ingo posted some tux benchmark results on
the khttpd mailing list some weeks ago - basically
khttpd is not in the same ballpark at this point.

cu

jjs

Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:

 Hi everyone!

 I tried to send this message to the khttpd group, but got no answer. Can
 any of you help me?

 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:31:20 +
 From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Tux vs khttpd?

 hi

 Does anyone know any details about how Tux performs in comparison with
 khttpd?
 Is this a separate project, or is it a somehow 'better version' of the
 khttpd?
 Are these going to be merged?

 roy
 -
 Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
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Re: [OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread J Sloan

Peter Rival wrote:

> "David S. Miller" wrote:
>
> > J Sloan writes:
> >  > Microsoft finally managed to get a better result using
> >  > an all-out, "bet the farm", "benchmark buster" setup
> >  > with a special web cache in front of iis.
> >
> > I haven't heard anyone talk about the fact that their 8-cpu numbers
> > got disqualified and aren't even mentioned on the SPEC site on the
> > main tables anymore.
> >
>
> Really?  I just checked and it's still there from what I see.  We're talking
> about the Dell 8450/700 w/ IIS & SWC 3.0 result, right?  I'm hoping that
> they're deemed NC, but I don't see it yet...
>

IIRC they did have some results disqualified, but
them these latest results have been submitted
since then - perhaps they will be disqualified as
well, once the facts come to light...

cu

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[OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread J Sloan

Ronald Bultje wrote:

> On 18 May 2001 10:12:34 +0200, reiser.angus wrote:
> > > However, taking a closer look, it turns out, that the above statement
> > > holds true only for 1 and 2 processor machines. Scalability already
> > > suffers at 4 processors, and at 8 processors, TUX 2.0 (7500) gets beaten
> > > by IIS 5.0 (8001), and these were measured on the same kind of box!
> > not really the same box
> > look at the disk subsystem
> > 7 x 9GB 10KRPM Drives and 1 x 18GB 15KRPM (html+log & os) for Win2000
> > 5 x 9GB 10KRPM Drives (html+log+os) for TUX 2.0
> >
> > this is sufficient for a such difference
>
> I read an article about TUX in the dutch C'T a few months ago (nov/dec
> 2000, I think) - the real difference (according to the article) was the
> 2.2.x kernel used in TUX. Look at the stats of the website, they used
> Redhat 7.0 as base, with kernel 2.2.16. In the C'T, they also used a
> 2.4-test kernel for TUX, and this one didn't have these "scalibility
> problems". The problem seemed to be SMP problems with systems with more
> than two cpus in the 2.2.x-based kernel series. 2.4.x kernels didn't
> seem to have this problem.

All Tux webservers have run on a 2.4 or 2.4-pre kernel.

> And as far as I know, TUX with 2.4.x kernel was faster than win2k on all
> SMP-combinations.

Tux held the record for most of the time since last
summer, when Linux vaulted into 1st place

Microsoft finally managed to get a better result using
an all-out, "bet the farm", "benchmark buster" setup
with a special web cache in front of iis.

However, they haven't heard the last of Linux either.

cu

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[OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread J Sloan

Ronald Bultje wrote:

 On 18 May 2001 10:12:34 +0200, reiser.angus wrote:
   However, taking a closer look, it turns out, that the above statement
   holds true only for 1 and 2 processor machines. Scalability already
   suffers at 4 processors, and at 8 processors, TUX 2.0 (7500) gets beaten
   by IIS 5.0 (8001), and these were measured on the same kind of box!
  not really the same box
  look at the disk subsystem
  7 x 9GB 10KRPM Drives and 1 x 18GB 15KRPM (html+log  os) for Win2000
  5 x 9GB 10KRPM Drives (html+log+os) for TUX 2.0
 
  this is sufficient for a such difference

 I read an article about TUX in the dutch C'T a few months ago (nov/dec
 2000, I think) - the real difference (according to the article) was the
 2.2.x kernel used in TUX. Look at the stats of the website, they used
 Redhat 7.0 as base, with kernel 2.2.16. In the C'T, they also used a
 2.4-test kernel for TUX, and this one didn't have these scalibility
 problems. The problem seemed to be SMP problems with systems with more
 than two cpus in the 2.2.x-based kernel series. 2.4.x kernels didn't
 seem to have this problem.

All Tux webservers have run on a 2.4 or 2.4-pre kernel.

 And as far as I know, TUX with 2.4.x kernel was faster than win2k on all
 SMP-combinations.

Tux held the record for most of the time since last
summer, when Linux vaulted into 1st place

Microsoft finally managed to get a better result using
an all-out, bet the farm, benchmark buster setup
with a special web cache in front of iis.

However, they haven't heard the last of Linux either.

cu

jjs

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Re: [OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread J Sloan

Peter Rival wrote:

 David S. Miller wrote:

  J Sloan writes:
Microsoft finally managed to get a better result using
an all-out, bet the farm, benchmark buster setup
with a special web cache in front of iis.
 
  I haven't heard anyone talk about the fact that their 8-cpu numbers
  got disqualified and aren't even mentioned on the SPEC site on the
  main tables anymore.
 

 Really?  I just checked and it's still there from what I see.  We're talking
 about the Dell 8450/700 w/ IIS  SWC 3.0 result, right?  I'm hoping that
 they're deemed NC, but I don't see it yet...


IIRC they did have some results disqualified, but
them these latest results have been submitted
since then - perhaps they will be disqualified as
well, once the facts come to light...

cu

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Re: Inodes

2001-05-14 Thread J Sloan

Blesson Paul wrote:

> Hi
> This is an another doubt related to VFS. I want to know
> wheather all files are assigned their inode number at the mounting time itself
> or inodes are assigned to files upon accessing only

er..

inode numbers are assigned at file creation time.

cu

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Re: Inodes

2001-05-14 Thread J Sloan

Blesson Paul wrote:

 Hi
 This is an another doubt related to VFS. I want to know
 wheather all files are assigned their inode number at the mounting time itself
 or inodes are assigned to files upon accessing only

er..

inode numbers are assigned at file creation time.

cu

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Re: 2.4.4 fork() problems (maybe)

2001-05-05 Thread J Sloan

Marc Schiffbauer wrote:

> use 2.4.5-pre1 instead, Linus has undone the fork()-change for some
> reason ;-)
>

2.4.5-pre1 has it's own problems -

Probably better to use 2.4.4-ac5 instead.

cu

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Re: 2.4.4 fork() problems (maybe)

2001-05-05 Thread J Sloan

Marc Schiffbauer wrote:

 use 2.4.5-pre1 instead, Linus has undone the fork()-change for some
 reason ;-)


2.4.5-pre1 has it's own problems -

Probably better to use 2.4.4-ac5 instead.

cu

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Re: [OT] Re: Linux NAT questions- (kernel upgrade??)

2001-05-02 Thread J Sloan

"Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" schrieb:

> I am using the Red Hat 7,  below are my kernel version.  I feel Red Hat 7 is
> quite new, although RH 7.1 has just come out.  How come it still say that my
> kernel version is old.

Ah, by old is meant the 2.2 version -
7.1 is the first RH release to ship with kernel 2.4.

You can certainly run a 2.4 kernel on your 7.0
box - I only ran 2.2.16 on my RH 7.0 boxes for
as long as it tool me to pull down the kernel
sources and compile a 2.4 kernel.

cu

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[OT] Re: Linux NAT questions- (kernel upgrade??)

2001-05-02 Thread J Sloan

"Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" schrieb:

> Hi.. I follow your instruction, but I encounter this issue, my kernel need
> to be upgrade? MAy I know how to determine the current kernel version

uname -a

> and
> how to upgrade it??

Either upgrade to a distro that includes the new kernel
(e.g. latest SuSE or Red Hat) or download kernel source
and compile. It might be helpful to provide the distribution
and version you are using (Red Hat 6.2, Slackware 7,
Debian Potato, etc)

> [root@guava /root]# iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dst 1.1.1.160 -i
> eth1 -j D
> NAT --to-destination 192.168.200.2
> iptables v1.1.1: can't initialize iptables table `nat': iptables who? (do
> you need to insm
> od?)
> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
>
> [root@guava simc]# rpm -ivh iptables-1_2_0-6_i386.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
> kernel >= 2.4.0 is needed by iptables-1.2.0-6

Yes, of course iptables won't work with the old kernel.
If you want to stay with the old kernel, you must use
ipchains instead.

cu

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[OT] Re: Linux NAT questions- (kernel upgrade??)

2001-05-02 Thread J Sloan

Sim, CT (Chee Tong) schrieb:

 Hi.. I follow your instruction, but I encounter this issue, my kernel need
 to be upgrade? MAy I know how to determine the current kernel version

uname -a

 and
 how to upgrade it??

Either upgrade to a distro that includes the new kernel
(e.g. latest SuSE or Red Hat) or download kernel source
and compile. It might be helpful to provide the distribution
and version you are using (Red Hat 6.2, Slackware 7,
Debian Potato, etc)

 [root@guava /root]# iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dst 1.1.1.160 -i
 eth1 -j D
 NAT --to-destination 192.168.200.2
 iptables v1.1.1: can't initialize iptables table `nat': iptables who? (do
 you need to insm
 od?)
 Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.

 [root@guava simc]# rpm -ivh iptables-1_2_0-6_i386.rpm
 error: failed dependencies:
 kernel = 2.4.0 is needed by iptables-1.2.0-6

Yes, of course iptables won't work with the old kernel.
If you want to stay with the old kernel, you must use
ipchains instead.

cu

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Re: [OT] Re: Linux NAT questions- (kernel upgrade??)

2001-05-02 Thread J Sloan

Sim, CT (Chee Tong) schrieb:

 I am using the Red Hat 7,  below are my kernel version.  I feel Red Hat 7 is
 quite new, although RH 7.1 has just come out.  How come it still say that my
 kernel version is old.

Ah, by old is meant the 2.2 version -
7.1 is the first RH release to ship with kernel 2.4.

You can certainly run a 2.4 kernel on your 7.0
box - I only ran 2.2.16 on my RH 7.0 boxes for
as long as it tool me to pull down the kernel
sources and compile a 2.4 kernel.

cu

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Re: 2.4.4: Kernel crash, possibly tcp related

2001-04-30 Thread J Sloan

"David S. Miller" schrieb:

> I'm having a devil of a time finding the tcpblast sources on the
> net, can you point me to where I can get them?  The one reference
> I saw to get the original sources was:
>
> ftp://ftp.xlink.net/pub/network/tcpblast.shar.gz
>
> But even that directory no longer exists.

Try ftp://wintermute.toyota.com/pub/utils/tcpblast.tar

cu

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Re: 2.4.4: Kernel crash, possibly tcp related

2001-04-30 Thread J Sloan

David S. Miller schrieb:

 I'm having a devil of a time finding the tcpblast sources on the
 net, can you point me to where I can get them?  The one reference
 I saw to get the original sources was:

 ftp://ftp.xlink.net/pub/network/tcpblast.shar.gz

 But even that directory no longer exists.

Try ftp://wintermute.toyota.com/pub/utils/tcpblast.tar

cu

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Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread J Sloan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hi,
>
> a friend of my asked me on how to make linux easier to use
> for personal/casual win user.
>
>
> from that, i also found out that it is very awkward to type
> username and password every time i use my computer.
> so here's a patch.

Neet hack, but maybe the kernel isn't the best
place to do this -

For instance, you can simply use the KDE 2.1.1 login
manager, with the current kernel intact, to automatically
log in and start the X session of a specific user, upon
entering runlevel 5 -

Might this not be a better direction?

cu

jjs

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Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread J Sloan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi,

 a friend of my asked me on how to make linux easier to use
 for personal/casual win user.


 from that, i also found out that it is very awkward to type
 username and password every time i use my computer.
 so here's a patch.

Neet hack, but maybe the kernel isn't the best
place to do this -

For instance, you can simply use the KDE 2.1.1 login
manager, with the current kernel intact, to automatically
log in and start the X session of a specific user, upon
entering runlevel 5 -

Might this not be a better direction?

cu

jjs

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Re: performance degradation on -ac tree

2001-04-22 Thread J Sloan

There is a bit more clarity on the performance degradation
issue now - In fact the degradation only appears when
using iptables. It's just that sometime shortly after 2.4.2,
the hit imposed by iptables got worse.

For instance:

netperf results  without iptables   with iptables
-
2.4.2 400 MB/s  330 MB/s
2.4.3-ac10400 MB/s  250 MB/s


BTW, the stock seawolf kernel gets the highest netperf
results ever seen on this box, around 450 MB/sec,
but with iptables or ipchains module loaded, it falls to
about 270 MB/sec.

Just a data point fyi -

cu

jjs



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Re: Linux 2.4.3-ac12 unresolved symbol rwsem...

2001-04-22 Thread J Sloan

Alan Cox wrote:

> > > Using /lib/modules/2.4.3-ac12/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.o
> > > /lib/modules/2.4.3-ac12/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.o: unresolved
> > > symbol rwsem_up_write_wake
> > > /lib/modules/2.4.3-ac12/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.o: unresolved
> > > symbol rwsem_down_write_failed
> >
> > Same thing with tdfx.o...
>
> "Works for me" as ever. What configuration options are you using. This sounds
> like some of the code is built with each kind of semaphore.

I'm getting the same thing here - Red Hat 7.1, amd K6/2
450 with a voodoo 3 -

After successful build and booting of 2.4.3-ac12, I found
I had no 3D acceleration, and saw error msgs similar to
those above, concerning tdfx.o.

As always, building agp and tdfx as modules.

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Re: Linux 2.4.3-ac12 unresolved symbol rwsem...

2001-04-22 Thread J Sloan

Alan Cox wrote:

   Using /lib/modules/2.4.3-ac12/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.o
   /lib/modules/2.4.3-ac12/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.o: unresolved
   symbol rwsem_up_write_wake
   /lib/modules/2.4.3-ac12/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.o: unresolved
   symbol rwsem_down_write_failed
 
  Same thing with tdfx.o...

 "Works for me" as ever. What configuration options are you using. This sounds
 like some of the code is built with each kind of semaphore.

I'm getting the same thing here - Red Hat 7.1, amd K6/2
450 with a voodoo 3 -

After successful build and booting of 2.4.3-ac12, I found
I had no 3D acceleration, and saw error msgs similar to
those above, concerning tdfx.o.

As always, building agp and tdfx as modules.

jjs

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Re: performance degradation on -ac tree

2001-04-22 Thread J Sloan

There is a bit more clarity on the performance degradation
issue now - In fact the degradation only appears when
using iptables. It's just that sometime shortly after 2.4.2,
the hit imposed by iptables got worse.

For instance:

netperf results  without iptables   with iptables
-
2.4.2 400 MB/s  330 MB/s
2.4.3-ac10400 MB/s  250 MB/s


BTW, the stock seawolf kernel gets the highest netperf
results ever seen on this box, around 450 MB/sec,
but with iptables or ipchains module loaded, it falls to
about 270 MB/sec.

Just a data point fyi -

cu

jjs



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Re: performance degradation on -ac tree

2001-04-17 Thread J Sloan

Hi all,

I've been lurking for some time now, unsure of whether
I had some special issues in my own setup, but seeing
these others come forward has emboldened me to speak
out as well.

I am running a RH 7.0 box with all updates and then some,
and generally trying each new 2.4 pre patch or -ac variant,
with the addition of Andrew Morton's low latency patches.

I have been noticing a marked performance degradation
with recent -ac kernels compared to Linus' versions.

This is based mainly on 2 things, one precisely measurable,
the other more objective, but tangible to me nonetheless.


First, the quanitifiable test:

I have noticed that with e.g. the 2.4.0-test kernels, and e.g.
2.4.2, netperf to localhost gets between 350-400 MB/s.

With recent -ac kernels, e.g. 2.4.3-ac5, netperf to localhost
gets more like 250 MB/sec.

secondly, a subjective test:

When giving it the quake 3 arena test, playing against internet
opponents, e.g. 2.4.2 feels very responsive, and I seem to be
able to run circles around opponents, dodge and turn very
quickly.

The same activity with recent -ac kernels feels like running
through molasses, very sluggish, and it is I who am repeatedly
outmaneuvered and embarrassed. It's quite awful.

The Mobo is an Asus p5 w/ AMD K6/2 450

Here is my cpuinfo -

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 5
model   : 8
model name  : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
stepping: 12
cpu MHz : 451.037
cache size  : 64 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 pge mmx syscall 3dnow k6_mtrr
bogomips: 901.12

Here is the output of lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1541 (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5243 (rev 04)
00:02.0 USB Controller: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5237 USB (rev 03)
00:03.0 Bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M7101 PMU
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge
[Aladdin IV] (rev c3)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev
08)
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev
08)
00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU1 (rev 06)
00:0d.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 06)
00:0f.0 IDE interface: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE (rev c1)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)


and here is my .config

#
# Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
#
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_ISA=y
# CONFIG_SBUS is not set
CONFIG_UID16=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y

#
# Processor type and features
#
CONFIG_LOLAT=y
CONFIG_LOLAT_SYSCTL=y
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set
CONFIG_MK6=y
# CONFIG_MK7 is not set
# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
# CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5
CONFIG_X86_ALIGNMENT_16=y
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
# CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set
# CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set
# CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set
# CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_MTRR=y
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_NET=y
# CONFIG_VISWS is not set
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y
# CONFIG_EISA is not set
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
# CONFIG_HOTPLUG is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA is not set
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y
# CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=m
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m
# CONFIG_PM is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI is not set
# CONFIG_APM is not set

#
# Memory Technology Devices (MTD)
#
# CONFIG_MTD is not set

#
# Parallel port support
#
# CONFIG_PARPORT is not set

#
# Plug and Play configuration
#
CONFIG_PNP=y
CONFIG_ISAPNP=y
CONFIG_PNPBIOS=y

#
# Block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=m

[OT] Re: Your response is requested

2001-04-17 Thread J Sloan

John Jasen wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Disconnect wrote:
>
> > (Sending to LKML just so nobody else flips out)
> >
> > OK it wasn't just us.  Lemme reassure the admins I just forwarded it to ;)
> >
> > It seems to list the hostname of whoever receives it (neat trick).
>
> sendmail, by default, appends its domainname to incoming email that
> doesn't have one.

We reject domainless messages, so that's not it.

jjs

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[OT] Re: Your response is requested

2001-04-17 Thread J Sloan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Dear Friend:
>
> YOU CAN make over a half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from
> your home for a one time investment of only twenty five U.S.
> Dollars.

This did not originate from toyota.com - The spammer simply
used that domain as the "from" hostname. We are careful
about mail server security here, there is no open relay.

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[OT] Re: Your response is requested

2001-04-17 Thread J Sloan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Friend:

 YOU CAN make over a half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from
 your home for a one time investment of only twenty five U.S.
 Dollars.

This did not originate from toyota.com - The spammer simply
used that domain as the "from" hostname. We are careful
about mail server security here, there is no open relay.

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[OT] Re: Your response is requested

2001-04-17 Thread J Sloan

John Jasen wrote:

 On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Disconnect wrote:

  (Sending to LKML just so nobody else flips out)
 
  OK it wasn't just us.  Lemme reassure the admins I just forwarded it to ;)
 
  It seems to list the hostname of whoever receives it (neat trick).

 sendmail, by default, appends its domainname to incoming email that
 doesn't have one.

We reject domainless messages, so that's not it.

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Re: performance degradation on -ac tree

2001-04-17 Thread J Sloan

Hi all,

I've been lurking for some time now, unsure of whether
I had some special issues in my own setup, but seeing
these others come forward has emboldened me to speak
out as well.

I am running a RH 7.0 box with all updates and then some,
and generally trying each new 2.4 pre patch or -ac variant,
with the addition of Andrew Morton's low latency patches.

I have been noticing a marked performance degradation
with recent -ac kernels compared to Linus' versions.

This is based mainly on 2 things, one precisely measurable,
the other more objective, but tangible to me nonetheless.


First, the quanitifiable test:

I have noticed that with e.g. the 2.4.0-test kernels, and e.g.
2.4.2, netperf to localhost gets between 350-400 MB/s.

With recent -ac kernels, e.g. 2.4.3-ac5, netperf to localhost
gets more like 250 MB/sec.

secondly, a subjective test:

When giving it the quake 3 arena test, playing against internet
opponents, e.g. 2.4.2 feels very responsive, and I seem to be
able to run circles around opponents, dodge and turn very
quickly.

The same activity with recent -ac kernels feels like running
through molasses, very sluggish, and it is I who am repeatedly
outmaneuvered and embarrassed. It's quite awful.

The Mobo is an Asus p5 w/ AMD K6/2 450

Here is my cpuinfo -

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 5
model   : 8
model name  : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
stepping: 12
cpu MHz : 451.037
cache size  : 64 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 pge mmx syscall 3dnow k6_mtrr
bogomips: 901.12

Here is the output of lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1541 (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5243 (rev 04)
00:02.0 USB Controller: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5237 USB (rev 03)
00:03.0 Bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M7101 PMU
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge
[Aladdin IV] (rev c3)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev
08)
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev
08)
00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU1 (rev 06)
00:0d.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 06)
00:0f.0 IDE interface: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE (rev c1)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)


and here is my .config

#
# Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
#
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_ISA=y
# CONFIG_SBUS is not set
CONFIG_UID16=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y

#
# Processor type and features
#
CONFIG_LOLAT=y
CONFIG_LOLAT_SYSCTL=y
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set
# CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set
CONFIG_MK6=y
# CONFIG_MK7 is not set
# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
# CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5
CONFIG_X86_ALIGNMENT_16=y
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
# CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set
# CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set
# CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set
# CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_MTRR=y
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_NET=y
# CONFIG_VISWS is not set
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y
# CONFIG_EISA is not set
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
# CONFIG_HOTPLUG is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA is not set
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y
# CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=m
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m
# CONFIG_PM is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI is not set
# CONFIG_APM is not set

#
# Memory Technology Devices (MTD)
#
# CONFIG_MTD is not set

#
# Parallel port support
#
# CONFIG_PARPORT is not set

#
# Plug and Play configuration
#
CONFIG_PNP=y
CONFIG_ISAPNP=y
CONFIG_PNPBIOS=y

#
# Block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=m

Re: loopback mount won't umount on 2.2.12

2001-04-04 Thread J Sloan

Khyron wrote:

> Okay, I've seen various references to problems with loopback
> mounts under (early) 2.2.x kernels. But I don't see any reference
> to a solution (ie. how to umount the stupid thing).
>
> My situation is that I have mounted a CD image on a machine
> for use in kickstart builds. The mount point is /kickstart/image
>
> When I attempt "umount /kickstart/image" and other variations
> on the theme, I get a "umount: /kickstart/image: device is busy".

Is it nfs exported?

If so, unexport it first.

cu

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Re: loopback mount won't umount on 2.2.12

2001-04-04 Thread J Sloan

Khyron wrote:

 Okay, I've seen various references to problems with loopback
 mounts under (early) 2.2.x kernels. But I don't see any reference
 to a solution (ie. how to umount the stupid thing).

 My situation is that I have mounted a CD image on a machine
 for use in kickstart builds. The mount point is /kickstart/image

 When I attempt "umount /kickstart/image" and other variations
 on the theme, I get a "umount: /kickstart/image: device is busy".

Is it nfs exported?

If so, unexport it first.

cu

Jup

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Re: uninteruptable sleep

2001-04-03 Thread J Sloan

Trevor Nichols wrote:

> > Its a kernel bug if it gets stuck like this. You need to provide more info
> > though - what file system, what devices, how much memory. Also ps can give you
> > the wait address of a process stuck in 'D' state which is valuable for debug
>
> ps xl:
>   F   UID   PID  PPID PRI  NI   VSZ  RSS WCHAN  STAT TTYTIME  COMMAND
> 040  1000  1230 1   9   0 243204 down_w D?  0:00  
>/home/data/mozilla/obj/dist/bin/mozi
>
> [I'm not exactly sure how to get the wait address if it isn't shown above]
>

Try this:

ps -eo pid,stat,pcpu,nwchan,wchan=WIDE-WCHAN-COLUMN -o args


cu

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Re: uninteruptable sleep

2001-04-03 Thread J Sloan

Trevor Nichols wrote:

  Its a kernel bug if it gets stuck like this. You need to provide more info
  though - what file system, what devices, how much memory. Also ps can give you
  the wait address of a process stuck in 'D' state which is valuable for debug

 ps xl:
   F   UID   PID  PPID PRI  NI   VSZ  RSS WCHAN  STAT TTYTIME  COMMAND
 040  1000  1230 1   9   0 243204 down_w D?  0:00  
/home/data/mozilla/obj/dist/bin/mozi

 [I'm not exactly sure how to get the wait address if it isn't shown above]


Try this:

ps -eo pid,stat,pcpu,nwchan,wchan=WIDE-WCHAN-COLUMN -o args


cu

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Re: Can't find modules after moving to 2.4.2

2001-03-28 Thread J Sloan

Make sure you have up to date modutils package.

Current version is 2.4.5 -

later,

jjs

Marcus Ramos wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've moved from kernel 2.2.16 to 2.4.2 (RH7) and its boots OK, except
> for the fact that none of the modules in "/etc/modules.conf" are loaded
> anymore (although modules were enabled in kernel config). In
> "/lib/modules" I see two directories: 2.2.16 and 2.4.2 (which I assume
> is the default for modules.conf). However, the "/lib/modules/2.4.2"
> contains almost no files, differently from 2.2.16. I guess I've missed
> some important step during the installation of 2.4.2, but now I am
> confused and can't recover. Can anyboy point me what the missing step is
> ? I will be most grateful.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Marcus.
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Re: Can't find modules after moving to 2.4.2

2001-03-28 Thread J Sloan

Make sure you have up to date modutils package.

Current version is 2.4.5 -

later,

jjs

Marcus Ramos wrote:

 Hello,

 I've moved from kernel 2.2.16 to 2.4.2 (RH7) and its boots OK, except
 for the fact that none of the modules in "/etc/modules.conf" are loaded
 anymore (although modules were enabled in kernel config). In
 "/lib/modules" I see two directories: 2.2.16 and 2.4.2 (which I assume
 is the default for modules.conf). However, the "/lib/modules/2.4.2"
 contains almost no files, differently from 2.2.16. I guess I've missed
 some important step during the installation of 2.4.2, but now I am
 confused and can't recover. Can anyboy point me what the missing step is
 ? I will be most grateful.

 Thanks in advance,
 Marcus.

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Re: "mount -o loop" lockup issue

2001-03-27 Thread J Sloan

"Mohammad A. Haque" wrote:

> David Konerding wrote:
>
> > And this is described in what release notes?  It worked just fine on Red Hat 7.0's 
>2.4
> > kernel oh wait, I see that they fixed it before they released it.
>
> And hmm..gee .. did they bother contributing back the code?

Based on their track record that's a silly question.

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Re: mount -o loop lockup issue

2001-03-27 Thread J Sloan

"Mohammad A. Haque" wrote:

 David Konerding wrote:

  And this is described in what release notes?  It worked just fine on Red Hat 7.0's 
2.4
  kernel oh wait, I see that they fixed it before they released it.

 And hmm..gee .. did they bother contributing back the code?

Based on their track record that's a silly question.

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Re: Sound issues with m805lr motheboard

2001-03-22 Thread J Sloan

"Brent D. Norris" wrote:

> > That seems strange. What is realserver failing with ?
>
> It isn't so much failing as it hangs.

It might be interesting to strace the realserver startup
both under 2.2 and 2.4 -

cu

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Re: Hang when using loop device

2001-03-20 Thread J Sloan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Hello all,
> >
> >   Recently my ext2 partition out of space so I have made a regular file
> > in the FAT32 partition and format it  as ext2 partiton and mount it as
> > loop device.However,occasionaly when I extract a large tar to the loop device..
> > The computer will hang while extracting. I wonder if deadlock occur.
> > I'm using kernel 2.4.1 now and there is no problem when I am using
> > kernel 2.2.x kernel
>
> There are known problems with some of the 2.4 series kernels and loopback
> device support. Look through the kernel archives for Jens Axboe's patches,
> or grab one of the latest ac (Alan Cox) kernels.

The fix is also in the 2.4.3-pre series -

cu

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Re: Hang when using loop device

2001-03-20 Thread J Sloan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hello all,
 
Recently my ext2 partition out of space so I have made a regular file
  in the FAT32 partition and format it  as ext2 partiton and mount it as
  loop device.However,occasionaly when I extract a large tar to the loop device..
  The computer will hang while extracting. I wonder if deadlock occur.
  I'm using kernel 2.4.1 now and there is no problem when I am using
  kernel 2.2.x kernel

 There are known problems with some of the 2.4 series kernels and loopback
 device support. Look through the kernel archives for Jens Axboe's patches,
 or grab one of the latest ac (Alan Cox) kernels.

The fix is also in the 2.4.3-pre series -

cu

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Re: [Fwd: Problem with file => 2GB]

2001-03-19 Thread J Sloan

Andreas Dilger wrote:

> There is a bug in 2.4.2 with the loop device, which is fixed in -ac series.

Also fixed in 2.4.3-pre series.

cu

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Re: [Fwd: Problem with file = 2GB]

2001-03-19 Thread J Sloan

Andreas Dilger wrote:

 There is a bug in 2.4.2 with the loop device, which is fixed in -ac series.

Also fixed in 2.4.3-pre series.

cu

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Re: How to optimize routing performance

2001-03-15 Thread J Sloan

Gregory Maxwell wrote:

> The scheduler schedules tasks not interrupts. Unless it manages to thrash the
> cache, the scheduler can not affect routing performance.

OK, thanks for the clarification - I need to get into the source.

cu

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Re: How to optimize routing performance

2001-03-15 Thread J Sloan

Rik van Riel wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, J Sloan wrote:
>
> > Fun, yes, and perhaps not directly related, however
> > under high load, where the sheer numbet of interrupts
> > per second begins to overwhelm the kernel, might it
> > not be relevant?
>
> No.
>
> > Or are you saying that the bottleneck is somewhere
> > else completely,
>
> Indeed. The bottleneck is with processing the incoming network
> packets, at the interrupt level.

OK, I'll take this to kernel newbies!

:-)

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Re: How to optimize routing performance

2001-03-15 Thread J Sloan

Rik van Riel wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, J Sloan wrote:
>
> > There are some scheduler patches that are not part of the
> > main kernel tree at this point (mostly since they have yet to
> > be optimized for the common case) which make quite a big
> > difference under heavy load - you might want to check out:
> >
> > http://lse.sourceforge.net/scheduling/
>
> Unrelated.   Fun, but unrelated to networking...

Fun, yes, and perhaps not directly related, however
under high load, where the sheer numbet of interrupts
per second begins to overwhelm the kernel, might it
not be relevant? After all, the benchmarks do point to
tangible improvements in the performance of network
server apps.

Or are you saying that the bottleneck is somewhere
else completely, or that there wouldn't be a bottleneck
in this case if certain kernel parameters were correctly
set?

Just curious,

Jup


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Re: How to optimize routing performance

2001-03-15 Thread J Sloan

Just my .02 -

There are some scheduler patches that are not part of the
main kernel tree at this point (mostly since they have yet to
be optimized for the common case) which make quite a big
difference under heavy load - you might want to check out:

http://lse.sourceforge.net/scheduling/

cu

Jup


Mårten Wikström wrote:

> I've performed a test on the routing capacity of a Linux 2.4.2 box versus a
> FreeBSD 4.2 box. I used two Pentium Pro 200Mhz computers with 64Mb memory,
> and two DEC 100Mbit ethernet cards. I used a Smartbits test-tool to measure
> the packet throughput and the packet size was set to 64 bytes. Linux dropped
> no packets up to about 27000 packets/s, but then it started to drop packets
> at higher rates. Worse yet, the output rate actually decreased, so at the
> input rate of 4 packets/s almost no packets got through. The behaviour
> of FreeBSD was different, it showed a steadily increased output rate up to
> about 7 packets/s before the output rate decreased. (Then the output
> rate was apprx. 4 packets/s).
> I have not made any special optimizations, aside from not having any
> background processes running.
>
> So, my question is: are these figures true, or is it possible to optimize
> the kernel somehow? The only changes I have made to the kernel config was to
> disable advanced routing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mårten
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Re: How to optimize routing performance

2001-03-15 Thread J Sloan

Just my .02 -

There are some scheduler patches that are not part of the
main kernel tree at this point (mostly since they have yet to
be optimized for the common case) which make quite a big
difference under heavy load - you might want to check out:

http://lse.sourceforge.net/scheduling/

cu

Jup


Mrten Wikstrm wrote:

 I've performed a test on the routing capacity of a Linux 2.4.2 box versus a
 FreeBSD 4.2 box. I used two Pentium Pro 200Mhz computers with 64Mb memory,
 and two DEC 100Mbit ethernet cards. I used a Smartbits test-tool to measure
 the packet throughput and the packet size was set to 64 bytes. Linux dropped
 no packets up to about 27000 packets/s, but then it started to drop packets
 at higher rates. Worse yet, the output rate actually decreased, so at the
 input rate of 4 packets/s almost no packets got through. The behaviour
 of FreeBSD was different, it showed a steadily increased output rate up to
 about 7 packets/s before the output rate decreased. (Then the output
 rate was apprx. 4 packets/s).
 I have not made any special optimizations, aside from not having any
 background processes running.

 So, my question is: are these figures true, or is it possible to optimize
 the kernel somehow? The only changes I have made to the kernel config was to
 disable advanced routing.

 Thanks,

 Mrten

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Re: How to optimize routing performance

2001-03-15 Thread J Sloan

Rik van Riel wrote:

 On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, J Sloan wrote:

  There are some scheduler patches that are not part of the
  main kernel tree at this point (mostly since they have yet to
  be optimized for the common case) which make quite a big
  difference under heavy load - you might want to check out:
 
  http://lse.sourceforge.net/scheduling/

 Unrelated.   Fun, but unrelated to networking...

Fun, yes, and perhaps not directly related, however
under high load, where the sheer numbet of interrupts
per second begins to overwhelm the kernel, might it
not be relevant? After all, the benchmarks do point to
tangible improvements in the performance of network
server apps.

Or are you saying that the bottleneck is somewhere
else completely, or that there wouldn't be a bottleneck
in this case if certain kernel parameters were correctly
set?

Just curious,

Jup


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Re: How to optimize routing performance

2001-03-15 Thread J Sloan

Rik van Riel wrote:

 On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, J Sloan wrote:

  Fun, yes, and perhaps not directly related, however
  under high load, where the sheer numbet of interrupts
  per second begins to overwhelm the kernel, might it
  not be relevant?

 No.

  Or are you saying that the bottleneck is somewhere
  else completely,

 Indeed. The bottleneck is with processing the incoming network
 packets, at the interrupt level.

OK, I'll take this to kernel newbies!

:-)

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Re: How to optimize routing performance

2001-03-15 Thread J Sloan

Gregory Maxwell wrote:

 The scheduler schedules tasks not interrupts. Unless it manages to thrash the
 cache, the scheduler can not affect routing performance.

OK, thanks for the clarification - I need to get into the source.

cu

Jup

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Re: Kernel 2.4.1 on RHL 6.2

2001-03-10 Thread J Sloan

Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

> Note! You only have to have those symlinks on broken systems such
> as Redhat.

This is silly, Red Hat works fine for a great many people.

He probably removed the original kernel-devel package,
which contained the links above, so they would have to
be remade.

> Sane systems such as Debian have a copy of the kernel header files
> that the C library was compiled against in /usr/include/{linux,asm}

I'm glad you admit that Red Hat is every bit as sane as
debian, since the current shipping version does indeed
have the sort of /usr/include/linux hierarchy you have just
described.

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Re: Kernel 2.4.1 on RHL 6.2

2001-03-10 Thread J Sloan

Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

 Note! You only have to have those symlinks on broken systems such
 as Redhat.

This is silly, Red Hat works fine for a great many people.

He probably removed the original kernel-devel package,
which contained the links above, so they would have to
be remade.

 Sane systems such as Debian have a copy of the kernel header files
 that the C library was compiled against in /usr/include/{linux,asm}

I'm glad you admit that Red Hat is every bit as sane as
debian, since the current shipping version does indeed
have the sort of /usr/include/linux hierarchy you have just
described.

jjs


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Re: Linux on the Unisys ES7000 and CMP2 machines?

2001-03-04 Thread J Sloan

Miles Lane wrote:

> http://www.nytimes.com/cnet/CNET_0-1003-200-5007472.html
>
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that this article mentions that Unisys has
> no plans to port Linux to it's "cellular multiprocessor"
> machines.  So, I am wondering if anyone is working
> on this independantly.
>
> These systems seems to be selling well with Microsoft's
> Windoze 2000 Datacenter installed.

My take on it is that unisys is an example of brain damage
and it's easiest to ignore/work around them rather than
trying to get them out of bed with microsoft. Nature will
eventually take it's course with unisys as it did with Dec.

jjs

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Re: Linux on the Unisys ES7000 and CMP2 machines?

2001-03-04 Thread J Sloan

Miles Lane wrote:

 http://www.nytimes.com/cnet/CNET_0-1003-200-5007472.html

 Hi,

 I noticed that this article mentions that Unisys has
 no plans to port Linux to it's "cellular multiprocessor"
 machines.  So, I am wondering if anyone is working
 on this independantly.

 These systems seems to be selling well with Microsoft's
 Windoze 2000 Datacenter installed.

My take on it is that unisys is an example of brain damage
and it's easiest to ignore/work around them rather than
trying to get them out of bed with microsoft. Nature will
eventually take it's course with unisys as it did with Dec.

jjs

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Re: 2.4.2ac8 lost char devices

2001-03-01 Thread J Sloan

Mark Hahn wrote:

> > > > > > Well, somethig has broken in ac8, because I lost my PS/2 mouse and
> > > > > me too .
> > No luck.

same here -

> it seems to be the mdelay(2) added to pc_keyb.c in -ac6.

-ac7 is fine here, but when I boot -ac8, there's no ps/2 mouse.

jjs



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Re: 2.4.x very unstable on 8-way IBM 8500R

2001-03-01 Thread J Sloan

"Dr. Kelsey Hudson" wrote:

> Under redhat 7 you should use kgcc to compile the kernel, since gcc2.96 is
> inherently broken(*).

Or upgrade to the current Red Hat 7 gcc, which works quite well.

jjs

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Re: 2.4.x very unstable on 8-way IBM 8500R

2001-03-01 Thread J Sloan

"Dr. Kelsey Hudson" wrote:

 Under redhat 7 you should use kgcc to compile the kernel, since gcc2.96 is
 inherently broken(*).

Or upgrade to the current Red Hat 7 gcc, which works quite well.

jjs

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Re: 2.4.2ac8 lost char devices

2001-03-01 Thread J Sloan

Mark Hahn wrote:

  Well, somethig has broken in ac8, because I lost my PS/2 mouse and
 me too /aol.
  No luck.

same here -

 it seems to be the mdelay(2) added to pc_keyb.c in -ac6.

-ac7 is fine here, but when I boot -ac8, there's no ps/2 mouse.

jjs



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Re: [2.4.2-ac5] X (4.0.1) crashes

2001-02-27 Thread J Sloan

"Manfred H. Winter" wrote:

> I'm going back to vanilla 2.4.2 for now. Is there another way to get
> loop to work?

Working fine here:

2.4.2 + Axboe's loop patch + Morton's low latency patch

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Re: [2.4.2-ac5] X (4.0.1) crashes

2001-02-27 Thread J Sloan

"Manfred H. Winter" wrote:

 I'm going back to vanilla 2.4.2 for now. Is there another way to get
 loop to work?

Working fine here:

2.4.2 + Axboe's loop patch + Morton's low latency patch

jjs

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Re: problem with mount -o loop

2001-02-23 Thread J Sloan

Tim Tim wrote:

> I made iso-image from cd with
>   dd if=/dev/hdd of=/image.iso
> and mount it with
>   mount -o loop /image.iso /mnt/cdrom
> under Linux-2.4.2-pre1 it is working
> but under Linux-2.4.2 do not
> Please help me to understand why

If it was working it was by sheer luck -

You need the loop patches available at

ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/axboe/patches

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Re: 3c509 + sb16 bug

2001-02-23 Thread J Sloan

Perhaps it's cold comfort, but I found long ago that
3c509 and SB don't mix too well, at least in Linux.

ISA devices are somewhat dumb, switching one
of the cards for a PCI version does the trick here.

SB128, SBlive work fine, or you might want to go
to a 10/100 pci ethernet card.

Just my $.02

jjs

Steve wrote:

> The evidence really speaks for itself:
>
> firstly, I have been running a 2.2.18 kernel system, with a 3c509b and a
> soundblaster 16 (and sundry other hardware).
>
> The soundblaster 16 is on 0x220, irq 5. Its a soundblaster 16 (vibra 16b, '94)
> The 3c509 is pnp and detects under 2.2.18 as the following:
> eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address  00 a0 24 75 b7 28, IRQ 10.
>
> Both cards work perfectly, and autodetect without any arguments.
>
> Now:
>
> Here are the interesting bits of the boot of the 2.4.x kernel:
>
> PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb4f0,
> last bus=1
> PCI: Using configuration type 1
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware
> Unknown bridge resource 0: assuming transparent
> Unknown bridge resource 1: assuming transparent
> Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent
> PCI: Using IRQ router ALI [10b9/1533] at 00:07.0
> isapnp: Scanning for Pnp cards...
> isapnp: Card '3Com 3C509B EtherLink III'
> isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total
>
> eth0: 3c509 at 0x220, 10baseT port, address  00 20 24 75 b7 28, IRQ 5.
> 3c509.c:1.16 (2.2) 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
> sb: No ISAPnP cards found, trying standard ones...
> sb: I/O, IRQ, and DMA are mandatory
>
> NB: PCI stuff was interesting, but I'm not sure if its connected to this
> situation.
>
> After bootup, at a random time interval between 10 seconds and 5 minutes the
> following error spams the screen:
> eth0: infinite loop in interrupt, status 2001
>
> I can only conclude that the kernel has mistaken an ethernet card for a
> sound card.
>
> for convience, here is an lspci:
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1541 (rev 04)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5243 (rev 04)
> 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge
> [Aladdin IV] (rev c3)
> 00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2064W [Millennium]
> (rev 01)
> 00:0f.0 IDE interface: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE (rev c2)
>
> Stephen Thorne
>
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Re: 3c509 + sb16 bug

2001-02-23 Thread J Sloan

Perhaps it's cold comfort, but I found long ago that
3c509 and SB don't mix too well, at least in Linux.

ISA devices are somewhat dumb, switching one
of the cards for a PCI version does the trick here.

SB128, SBlive work fine, or you might want to go
to a 10/100 pci ethernet card.

Just my $.02

jjs

Steve wrote:

 The evidence really speaks for itself:

 firstly, I have been running a 2.2.18 kernel system, with a 3c509b and a
 soundblaster 16 (and sundry other hardware).

 The soundblaster 16 is on 0x220, irq 5. Its a soundblaster 16 (vibra 16b, '94)
 The 3c509 is pnp and detects under 2.2.18 as the following:
 eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address  00 a0 24 75 b7 28, IRQ 10.

 Both cards work perfectly, and autodetect without any arguments.

 Now:

 Here are the interesting bits of the boot of the 2.4.x kernel:

 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb4f0,
 last bus=1
 PCI: Using configuration type 1
 PCI: Probing PCI hardware
 Unknown bridge resource 0: assuming transparent
 Unknown bridge resource 1: assuming transparent
 Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent
 PCI: Using IRQ router ALI [10b9/1533] at 00:07.0
 isapnp: Scanning for Pnp cards...
 isapnp: Card '3Com 3C509B EtherLink III'
 isapnp: 1 Plug  Play card detected total

 eth0: 3c509 at 0x220, 10baseT port, address  00 20 24 75 b7 28, IRQ 5.
 3c509.c:1.16 (2.2) 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: No ISAPnP cards found, trying standard ones...
 sb: I/O, IRQ, and DMA are mandatory

 NB: PCI stuff was interesting, but I'm not sure if its connected to this
 situation.

 After bootup, at a random time interval between 10 seconds and 5 minutes the
 following error spams the screen:
 eth0: infinite loop in interrupt, status 2001

 I can only conclude that the kernel has mistaken an ethernet card for a
 sound card.

 for convience, here is an lspci:
 00:00.0 Host bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1541 (rev 04)
 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5243 (rev 04)
 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge
 [Aladdin IV] (rev c3)
 00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2064W [Millennium]
 (rev 01)
 00:0f.0 IDE interface: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE (rev c2)

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Re: problem with mount -o loop

2001-02-23 Thread J Sloan

Tim Tim wrote:

 I made iso-image from cd with
   dd if=/dev/hdd of=/image.iso
 and mount it with
   mount -o loop /image.iso /mnt/cdrom
 under Linux-2.4.2-pre1 it is working
 but under Linux-2.4.2 do not
 Please help me to understand why

If it was working it was by sheer luck -

You need the loop patches available at

ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/axboe/patches

jjs

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Re: 2.4.2 seems to break loopback and/or mount

2001-02-22 Thread J Sloan

Red Hat 7.x running nicely on a number of machines
here w/ no problem, with all apologies to the Red Hat
bashers -

The real problem is loopback is broken, and the
fix still needs to be merged.

In the meantime, Jens Axboe's loop patches will
make it work -

ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/axboe/patches/2.4.2-pre4/

jjs

 Murray wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Compiling with kgcc compiler from RedHat 7.0 breaks loopback in the
> way you describe on 2.4.2-prex kernels and I suspect also in the real 2.4.2.
>
> Jim
>
> > Please CC me on replies. I just joined the list and don't want
> > to miss any replies.
> >
> > I have been running 2.4.1-pre10 for quite some time with no
> > problems. I just upgraded to 2.4.2 and everything seem to work
> > fine until I did...  (as root or course)
> >
> > mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro mycdimage.iso /mnt/cdrom
> >
> > at which point the mount process hung in an uninterruptable sleep.
> > after that I can no longer successfully issue any other mount
> > commands, including non-loopback mounts. I can mount/unmount
> > regular partitions before mounting anything via loopback.
> >
> > Any ideas as to what is wrong?
> > The only thing I can think of is that my modutils is v2.3.19
> > but I doubt that is doing it as the loop module and other modules
> > are loaded fine.
> >
> > If anybody has an idea as to what I broke please let me know.
> > I will upgrade modutils tomorrow and see if the problem goes
> > away while I wait for a possibly more accurate response.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Jeff Wiegley
> >
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Re: 2.4.2 seems to break loopback and/or mount

2001-02-22 Thread J Sloan

Red Hat 7.x running nicely on a number of machines
here w/ no problem, with all apologies to the Red Hat
bashers -

The real problem is loopback is broken, and the
fix still needs to be merged.

In the meantime, Jens Axboe's loop patches will
make it work -

ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/axboe/patches/2.4.2-pre4/

jjs

 Murray wrote:

 On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Compiling with kgcc compiler from RedHat 7.0 breaks loopback in the
 way you describe on 2.4.2-prex kernels and I suspect also in the real 2.4.2.

 Jim

  Please CC me on replies. I just joined the list and don't want
  to miss any replies.
 
  I have been running 2.4.1-pre10 for quite some time with no
  problems. I just upgraded to 2.4.2 and everything seem to work
  fine until I did...  (as root or course)
 
  mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro mycdimage.iso /mnt/cdrom
 
  at which point the mount process hung in an uninterruptable sleep.
  after that I can no longer successfully issue any other mount
  commands, including non-loopback mounts. I can mount/unmount
  regular partitions before mounting anything via loopback.
 
  Any ideas as to what is wrong?
  The only thing I can think of is that my modutils is v2.3.19
  but I doubt that is doing it as the loop module and other modules
  are loaded fine.
 
  If anybody has an idea as to what I broke please let me know.
  I will upgrade modutils tomorrow and see if the problem goes
  away while I wait for a possibly more accurate response.
 
  Thank you,
 
  Jeff Wiegley
 
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Re: Mucho timeouts on USB

2001-02-09 Thread J Sloan

I'm seeing a similar usb timeout message here
with an HP 5200C usb scanner, e.g:

usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

My config:

AMD-K6 450 on ASUS P5 mb
256 MB RAM, Ali chipset
Red Hat 7.0 updated, kernel 2.4.1-ac8

jjs

John Cavan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just got a D-Link USB radio (R100) and I'm seeing lots of timeouts with
> it. I've seen this through the last few 2.4.1+ and -ac+ kernels.
>
> Current config:
>
> Dual P3-500 w/ 512mb of RAM
> Tyan Tiger 133 mobo with VIA chipset, onboard USB
> Kernel 2.4.1-ac9 compiled with egcs-1.1.2
>
> The only thing funky is that three devices are sharing an interrupt:
>
>CPU0   CPU1
>   0: 216690 219652IO-APIC-edge  timer
>   1:   3564   3816IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
>   2:  0  0  XT-PIC  cascade
>   3:  7 20IO-APIC-edge  serial
>   5:   1017   1135   IO-APIC-level  EMU10K1
>   8:  0  1IO-APIC-edge  rtc
>  11:  22978  22756   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx, eth0, usb-uhci
>  12:  64220  63272IO-APIC-edge  PS/2 Mouse
>  14:  12132  12810IO-APIC-edge  ide0
>  15:  3 10IO-APIC-edge  ide1
> NMI: 436327 436327
> LOC: 436151 436128
> ERR:  0
>
> The ethernet card is a 3Com 3c905, the SCSI card is Adaptec 7892B (19160
> card). No problems with either as far as I can tell, but one of these
> modules may not be playing nice with interrupt sharing.
>
> The messages:
>
> usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
> usb.c: registered new driver hub
> usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.251 $ time 17:33:47 Feb  9 2001
> usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
> usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd400, IRQ 11
> usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
> usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=2 (error=-110)
> usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod 0x4b4/0x1002) is not claimed by any
> active driver.
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> usb.c: error getting string descriptor 0 (error=-110)
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> usb.c: error getting string descriptor 0 (error=-110)
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> usb.c: error getting string descriptor 0 (error=-110)
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> usb.c: error getting string descriptor 0 (error=-110)
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
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Re: Mucho timeouts on USB

2001-02-09 Thread J Sloan

I'm seeing a similar usb timeout message here
with an HP 5200C usb scanner, e.g:

usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout

My config:

AMD-K6 450 on ASUS P5 mb
256 MB RAM, Ali chipset
Red Hat 7.0 updated, kernel 2.4.1-ac8

jjs

John Cavan wrote:

 Hi,

 Just got a D-Link USB radio (R100) and I'm seeing lots of timeouts with
 it. I've seen this through the last few 2.4.1+ and -ac+ kernels.

 Current config:

 Dual P3-500 w/ 512mb of RAM
 Tyan Tiger 133 mobo with VIA chipset, onboard USB
 Kernel 2.4.1-ac9 compiled with egcs-1.1.2

 The only thing funky is that three devices are sharing an interrupt:

CPU0   CPU1
   0: 216690 219652IO-APIC-edge  timer
   1:   3564   3816IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
   2:  0  0  XT-PIC  cascade
   3:  7 20IO-APIC-edge  serial
   5:   1017   1135   IO-APIC-level  EMU10K1
   8:  0  1IO-APIC-edge  rtc
  11:  22978  22756   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx, eth0, usb-uhci
  12:  64220  63272IO-APIC-edge  PS/2 Mouse
  14:  12132  12810IO-APIC-edge  ide0
  15:  3 10IO-APIC-edge  ide1
 NMI: 436327 436327
 LOC: 436151 436128
 ERR:  0

 The ethernet card is a 3Com 3c905, the SCSI card is Adaptec 7892B (19160
 card). No problems with either as far as I can tell, but one of these
 modules may not be playing nice with interrupt sharing.

 The messages:

 usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
 usb.c: registered new driver hub
 usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.251 $ time 17:33:47 Feb  9 2001
 usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
 usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd400, IRQ 11
 usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
 usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
 usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
 usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=2 (error=-110)
 usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod 0x4b4/0x1002) is not claimed by any
 active driver.
 usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
 usb.c: error getting string descriptor 0 (error=-110)
 usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
 usb.c: error getting string descriptor 0 (error=-110)
 usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
 usb.c: error getting string descriptor 0 (error=-110)
 usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
 usb.c: error getting string descriptor 0 (error=-110)
 usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
 usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
 usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
 usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
 usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
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ibmtr.o does not like 2.4 [Was: IBM Model 350 does not like 2.4]

2001-02-06 Thread J Sloan

Hi,

Just to follow up on my own post, the problem is
way down in the network driver layer, specifically
in the ibmtr driver - it seems to be happy with 2.2,
and barfs with 2.4 - for now I replaced it with an
IBM pci card (olympic driver) and 2.4 is now solid
on the machine that had serious problems using
the isa token ring card.

I'l have a look at ibmtr if nobody beats me to it.

jjs

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ibmtr.o does not like 2.4 [Was: IBM Model 350 does not like 2.4]

2001-02-06 Thread J Sloan

Hi,

Just to follow up on my own post, the problem is
way down in the network driver layer, specifically
in the ibmtr driver - it seems to be happy with 2.2,
and barfs with 2.4 - for now I replaced it with an
IBM pci card (olympic driver) and 2.4 is now solid
on the machine that had serious problems using
the isa token ring card.

I'l have a look at ibmtr if nobody beats me to it.

jjs

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IBM Model 350 does not like 2.4

2001-02-05 Thread J J Sloan

Hi All,

I have 10 systems running 2.4 that are rock solid, but I have
1 system that has problems with 2.4. The box had run perfectly
for 46 days with 2.2.19pre2, and today I installed 2.4.1-ac3
to see how it would go. It seemed to run fine for a few minutes,
then the old problem reasserted itself:

"df" gives a segmentation fault:

iron: /root
(tty/dev/pts/0): bash: 1040 > df
Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1  1007960457996498760  48% /
/dev/hda3  1198496   1082264 55352  96% /usr
Segmentation fault

Initial look at the oops implicates the sunrpc code.

This is Red Hat 7.0 with all updates applied running on a
humble pentium 166 (IBM model 350). The identical oops
occurs whether the kernel is compiled with kgcc or gcc-2.96 .

Hope this helps,

jjs

decoded ksymoops follows:

ksymoops 2.3.4 on i586 2.4.1-ac3.  Options used
 -V (default)
 -k /proc/ksyms (default)
 -l /proc/modules (default)
 -o /lib/modules/2.4.1-ac3/ (default)
 -m /boot/System.map (specified)

Warning (compare_maps): ksyms_base symbol __VERSIONED_SYMBOL(shmem_file_setup) not 
found in System.map.  Ignoring ksyms_base entry
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address feff3112
c482dab4
*pde = 
Oops: 
CPU:0
EIP:0010:[]
Using defaults from ksymoops -t elf32-i386 -a i386
EFLAGS: 00010286
eax: feff310a   ebx: feff310a   ecx:    edx: c36c5b20
esi: c36ef610   edi: c36c5b20   ebp:    esp: c1d31d14
ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Process df (pid: 1305, stackpage=c1d31000)
Stack: 08040016 c08c7300 4000 c01b291e  c36c5b20 c36c5b20 c482db9a
   c36c5b20 c1d31da0 c36c5b20 c1d31dd4 c1d31d98 c482dc9f c36c5b20 
   c1d31da0 c1d31e80 c482951a c1d31da0  c1d31da0 c36efc10 c482940c
Call Trace: [] [] [] [] [] 
[] []
   [] [] [] [] []
Code: 66 83 7b 08 00 75 15 a1 68 2a 29 c0 39 43 04 79 0b 8b 03 89

>>EIP; c482dab4 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0>   <=
Trace; c01b291e 
Trace; c482db9a <[sunrpc]rpcauth_lookup_credcache+36/8c>
Trace; c482dc9f <[sunrpc]rpcauth_bindcred+3b/54>
Trace; c482951a <[sunrpc]rpc_call_setup+36/64>
Trace; c482940c <[sunrpc]rpc_call_sync+64/9c>
Trace; c482bfc0 <[sunrpc]rpc_run_timer+0/44>
Trace; c485f4a8 <[nfs]nfs_proc_statfs+58/7c>
Trace; c01e177a 
Trace; c4858aef <[nfs]nfs_statfs+33/180>
Trace; c012c0da 
Trace; c012c125 
Trace; c0108e0b 
Code;  c482dab4 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0>
 <_EIP>:
Code;  c482dab4 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0>   <=
   0:   66 83 7b 08 00cmpw   $0x0,0x8(%ebx)   <=
Code;  c482dab9 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+31/b0>
   5:   75 15 jne1c <_EIP+0x1c> c482dad0 
<[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+48/b0>
Code;  c482dabb <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+33/b0>
   7:   a1 68 2a 29 c0mov0xc0292a68,%eax
Code;  c482dac0 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+38/b0>
   c:   39 43 04  cmp%eax,0x4(%ebx)
Code;  c482dac3 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+3b/b0>
   f:   79 0b jns1c <_EIP+0x1c> c482dad0 
<[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+48/b0>
Code;  c482dac5 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+3d/b0>
  11:   8b 03 mov(%ebx),%eax
Code;  c482dac7 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+3f/b0>
  13:   89 00 mov%eax,(%eax)

Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address feff3112
c482dab4
*pde = 
Oops: 
CPU:0
EIP:0010:[]
EFLAGS: 00010286
eax: 00010a9d   ebx: feff310a   ecx:    edx: c36c5b20
esi:    edi: c36c5b20   ebp:    esp: c1d31d14
ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Process df (pid: 1308, stackpage=c1d31000)
Stack: 08048000 c08c7240 4000 c1d31d4c  c36c5b20 c36c5b20 c482db9a
   c36c5b20 c1d31da0 c36c5b20 c1d31dd4 c1d31d98 c482dc9f c36c5b20 
   c1d31da0 c1d31e80 c482951a c1d31da0  c1d31da0 c36efc10 c482940c
Call Trace: [] [] [] [] [] 
[] []
   [] [] [] []
Code: 66 83 7b 08 00 75 15 a1 68 2a 29 c0 39 43 04 79 0b 8b 03 89

>>EIP; c482dab4 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0>   <=
Trace; c482db9a <[sunrpc]rpcauth_lookup_credcache+36/8c>
Trace; c482dc9f <[sunrpc]rpcauth_bindcred+3b/54>
Trace; c482951a <[sunrpc]rpc_call_setup+36/64>
Trace; c482940c <[sunrpc]rpc_call_sync+64/9c>
Trace; c482bfc0 <[sunrpc]rpc_run_timer+0/44>
Trace; c485f4a8 <[nfs]nfs_proc_statfs+58/7c>
Trace; c01e177a 
Trace; c4858aef <[nfs]nfs_statfs+33/180>
Trace; c012c0da 
Trace; c012c125 
Trace; c0108e0b 
Code;  c482dab4 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0>
 <_EIP>:
Code;  c482dab4 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0>   <=
   0:   66 83 7b 08 00cmpw   $0x0,0x8(%ebx)   <=
Code;  c482dab9 <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+31/b0>
   5:   75 15 jne1c <_EIP+0x1c> c482dad0 
<[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+48/b0>
Code;  c482dabb <[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+33/b0>
   7:   a1 68 2a 29 c0mov

IBM Model 350 does not like 2.4

2001-02-05 Thread J J Sloan

Hi All,

I have 10 systems running 2.4 that are rock solid, but I have
1 system that has problems with 2.4. The box had run perfectly
for 46 days with 2.2.19pre2, and today I installed 2.4.1-ac3
to see how it would go. It seemed to run fine for a few minutes,
then the old problem reasserted itself:

"df" gives a segmentation fault:

iron: /root
(tty/dev/pts/0): bash: 1040  df
Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1  1007960457996498760  48% /
/dev/hda3  1198496   1082264 55352  96% /usr
Segmentation fault

Initial look at the oops implicates the sunrpc code.

This is Red Hat 7.0 with all updates applied running on a
humble pentium 166 (IBM model 350). The identical oops
occurs whether the kernel is compiled with kgcc or gcc-2.96 .

Hope this helps,

jjs

decoded ksymoops follows:

ksymoops 2.3.4 on i586 2.4.1-ac3.  Options used
 -V (default)
 -k /proc/ksyms (default)
 -l /proc/modules (default)
 -o /lib/modules/2.4.1-ac3/ (default)
 -m /boot/System.map (specified)

Warning (compare_maps): ksyms_base symbol __VERSIONED_SYMBOL(shmem_file_setup) not 
found in System.map.  Ignoring ksyms_base entry
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address feff3112
c482dab4
*pde = 
Oops: 
CPU:0
EIP:0010:[c482dab4]
Using defaults from ksymoops -t elf32-i386 -a i386
EFLAGS: 00010286
eax: feff310a   ebx: feff310a   ecx:    edx: c36c5b20
esi: c36ef610   edi: c36c5b20   ebp:    esp: c1d31d14
ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Process df (pid: 1305, stackpage=c1d31000)
Stack: 08040016 c08c7300 4000 c01b291e  c36c5b20 c36c5b20 c482db9a
   c36c5b20 c1d31da0 c36c5b20 c1d31dd4 c1d31d98 c482dc9f c36c5b20 
   c1d31da0 c1d31e80 c482951a c1d31da0  c1d31da0 c36efc10 c482940c
Call Trace: [c01b291e] [c482db9a] [c482dc9f] [c482951a] [c482940c] 
[c482bfc0] [c485f4a8]
   [c01e177a] [c4858aef] [c012c0da] [c012c125] [c0108e0b]
Code: 66 83 7b 08 00 75 15 a1 68 2a 29 c0 39 43 04 79 0b 8b 03 89

EIP; c482dab4 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0   =
Trace; c01b291e net_tx_action+96/a4
Trace; c482db9a [sunrpc]rpcauth_lookup_credcache+36/8c
Trace; c482dc9f [sunrpc]rpcauth_bindcred+3b/54
Trace; c482951a [sunrpc]rpc_call_setup+36/64
Trace; c482940c [sunrpc]rpc_call_sync+64/9c
Trace; c482bfc0 [sunrpc]rpc_run_timer+0/44
Trace; c485f4a8 [nfs]nfs_proc_statfs+58/7c
Trace; c01e177a vsprintf+306/334
Trace; c4858aef [nfs]nfs_statfs+33/180
Trace; c012c0da vfs_statfs+3a/40
Trace; c012c125 sys_statfs+45/f4
Trace; c0108e0b system_call+33/38
Code;  c482dab4 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0
 _EIP:
Code;  c482dab4 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0   =
   0:   66 83 7b 08 00cmpw   $0x0,0x8(%ebx)   =
Code;  c482dab9 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+31/b0
   5:   75 15 jne1c _EIP+0x1c c482dad0 
[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+48/b0
Code;  c482dabb [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+33/b0
   7:   a1 68 2a 29 c0mov0xc0292a68,%eax
Code;  c482dac0 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+38/b0
   c:   39 43 04  cmp%eax,0x4(%ebx)
Code;  c482dac3 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+3b/b0
   f:   79 0b jns1c _EIP+0x1c c482dad0 
[sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+48/b0
Code;  c482dac5 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+3d/b0
  11:   8b 03 mov(%ebx),%eax
Code;  c482dac7 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+3f/b0
  13:   89 00 mov%eax,(%eax)

Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address feff3112
c482dab4
*pde = 
Oops: 
CPU:0
EIP:0010:[c482dab4]
EFLAGS: 00010286
eax: 00010a9d   ebx: feff310a   ecx:    edx: c36c5b20
esi:    edi: c36c5b20   ebp:    esp: c1d31d14
ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Process df (pid: 1308, stackpage=c1d31000)
Stack: 08048000 c08c7240 4000 c1d31d4c  c36c5b20 c36c5b20 c482db9a
   c36c5b20 c1d31da0 c36c5b20 c1d31dd4 c1d31d98 c482dc9f c36c5b20 
   c1d31da0 c1d31e80 c482951a c1d31da0  c1d31da0 c36efc10 c482940c
Call Trace: [c482db9a] [c482dc9f] [c482951a] [c482940c] [c482bfc0] 
[c485f4a8] [c01e177a]
   [c4858aef] [c012c0da] [c012c125] [c0108e0b]
Code: 66 83 7b 08 00 75 15 a1 68 2a 29 c0 39 43 04 79 0b 8b 03 89

EIP; c482dab4 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0   =
Trace; c482db9a [sunrpc]rpcauth_lookup_credcache+36/8c
Trace; c482dc9f [sunrpc]rpcauth_bindcred+3b/54
Trace; c482951a [sunrpc]rpc_call_setup+36/64
Trace; c482940c [sunrpc]rpc_call_sync+64/9c
Trace; c482bfc0 [sunrpc]rpc_run_timer+0/44
Trace; c485f4a8 [nfs]nfs_proc_statfs+58/7c
Trace; c01e177a vsprintf+306/334
Trace; c4858aef [nfs]nfs_statfs+33/180
Trace; c012c0da vfs_statfs+3a/40
Trace; c012c125 sys_statfs+45/f4
Trace; c0108e0b system_call+33/38
Code;  c482dab4 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0
 _EIP:
Code;  c482dab4 [sunrpc]rpcauth_gc_credcache+2c/b0   =
   0:   66 83 7b 08 00cmpw   

A buglet with LVM-0.9.1

2001-02-01 Thread J Sloan

Hi,

I discovered that lvm seems to have a problem
with compaq raid controllers - the partitions
don't have the normal names like /dev/sda1,
but instead names like /dev/ida/c0d0p1 -

lvm seems to works OK, but lvmdiskscan freaks...

lvmdiskscan works normally on other systems,
which have conventional disk controllers.

This is OK -
case: /tmp
(tty/dev/pts/1): bash: 623 > lvscan
lvscan -- ACTIVE   "/dev/lxlvm/lvm1" [3.12 GB]
lvscan -- 1 logical volumes with 3.12 GB total in 1 volume group
lvscan -- 1 active logical volumes

This is OK too -
case: /tmp
(tty/dev/pts/1): bash: 622 > df
Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/ida/c0d0p11007928220124736604  24% /
/dev/ida/c0d0p82015904251196   1662304  14% /home
/dev/ida/c0d0p71007928   240956488   1% /opt
/dev/ida/c0d0p94031856   1660664   2166380  44% /usr
/dev/ida/c0d0p32015920 61768   1851744   4% /var
/dev/lxlvm/lvm13225352   1888308   1173204  62% /disks/backup

But this is not in agreement:
case: /tmp
(tty/dev/pts/1): bash: 625 > lvmdiskscan -v
lvmdiskscan -- reading all disks / partitions (this may take a while...)

lvmdiskscan -- filling directory cache...
lvmdiskscan -- walking through all found disks / partitions
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/ida/c0d0p1  [1000.06 MB] free whole disk
lvmdiskscan -- no valid disks / partitions found
lvmdiskscan -- please check your disk device special files!

Hope this is of use -

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Re: NT soon to surpass Linux in specweb99 performance?

2001-02-01 Thread J Sloan

Gregory Maxwell wrote:

> Looks like TUX caught MS's attention:
> http://www.spec.org/osg/web99/results/res2000q4/web99-20001211-00082.html
>
> Anyone know if their method of achieveing this is as flexible as TUX, or is
> their "SWC 3.0" simply mean 'spec web cheat' and involve implimenting the
> specweb dyanmic stuff in x86 assembly in their microkernel? :)

One might say they cheated, both by using much faster
disks and more of them, and "supercharging" their web
server by putting a web cache in front of iis. Even so,
they couldn't quite catch up to Tux.

jjs

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Re: NT soon to surpass Linux in specweb99 performance?

2001-02-01 Thread J Sloan

Gregory Maxwell wrote:

 Looks like TUX caught MS's attention:
 http://www.spec.org/osg/web99/results/res2000q4/web99-20001211-00082.html

 Anyone know if their method of achieveing this is as flexible as TUX, or is
 their "SWC 3.0" simply mean 'spec web cheat' and involve implimenting the
 specweb dyanmic stuff in x86 assembly in their microkernel? :)

One might say they cheated, both by using much faster
disks and more of them, and "supercharging" their web
server by putting a web cache in front of iis. Even so,
they couldn't quite catch up to Tux.

jjs

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A buglet with LVM-0.9.1

2001-02-01 Thread J Sloan

Hi,

I discovered that lvm seems to have a problem
with compaq raid controllers - the partitions
don't have the normal names like /dev/sda1,
but instead names like /dev/ida/c0d0p1 -

lvm seems to works OK, but lvmdiskscan freaks...

lvmdiskscan works normally on other systems,
which have conventional disk controllers.

This is OK -
case: /tmp
(tty/dev/pts/1): bash: 623  lvscan
lvscan -- ACTIVE   "/dev/lxlvm/lvm1" [3.12 GB]
lvscan -- 1 logical volumes with 3.12 GB total in 1 volume group
lvscan -- 1 active logical volumes

This is OK too -
case: /tmp
(tty/dev/pts/1): bash: 622  df
Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/ida/c0d0p11007928220124736604  24% /
/dev/ida/c0d0p82015904251196   1662304  14% /home
/dev/ida/c0d0p71007928   240956488   1% /opt
/dev/ida/c0d0p94031856   1660664   2166380  44% /usr
/dev/ida/c0d0p32015920 61768   1851744   4% /var
/dev/lxlvm/lvm13225352   1888308   1173204  62% /disks/backup

But this is not in agreement:
case: /tmp
(tty/dev/pts/1): bash: 625  lvmdiskscan -v
lvmdiskscan -- reading all disks / partitions (this may take a while...)

lvmdiskscan -- filling directory cache...
lvmdiskscan -- walking through all found disks / partitions
lvmdiskscan -- /dev/ida/c0d0p1  [1000.06 MB] free whole disk
lvmdiskscan -- no valid disks / partitions found
lvmdiskscan -- please check your disk device special files!

Hope this is of use -

jjs





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Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread J Sloan

OK, here's the details you asked about:

Soundblaster Awe 32 sound card
Voodoo 3 pci video card
Running Xfree86-4.0.0 (rpms from 3dfx.com)
Playing unreal tournament, no special game
options, just 800x600 graphics @ 16 bits.

To recap, the symptoms (hung ps, etc) occurred
on kernel 2.4.1-pre8 + low latency patches. (but
I don't think the low latency patches had anything
to do with it, based on the other reports)

Hope this helps

jjs

David Ford wrote:

> On 2.4.0-ac12, I played music for about 30 minutes without any problems.  I started 
>up an mpeg in xmms and it
> locked in short order.  I'm sure now that it has something to do with the graphics.  
>What DGA or other config
> options do you have enabled for your game?
>
> What video and sound card?

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Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread J Sloan

Sorry, there was no xmms involved here -

The behavior occurred while playing unreal tournament.

But at least the sound card was in use, FWIW -

jjs

David Ford wrote:

> We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.
>
> -d
>
> J Sloan wrote:
>
> > Just for the record, the system where I saw the problem
> > has only ext2 -
>
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>Tanenbaum
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Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread J Sloan

Just for the record, the system where I saw the problem
has only ext2 -

jjs

Shawn Starr wrote:

> Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm...
>
> David Ford wrote:
>
> > I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
> > mpegs in xmms.  It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed.
> >
> > xmms stalls flat on it's face and anything accessing /proc stalls.  If I get
> > the time to do it, I'll take a gander at it with kdb.
> >
> > I have no patches applied to p10, I have reiserfs onboard but I highly doubt
> > it's reiserfs.

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Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread J Sloan

Just for the record, the system where I saw the problem
has only ext2 -

jjs

Shawn Starr wrote:

 Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm...

 David Ford wrote:

  I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
  mpegs in xmms.  It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed.
 
  xmms stalls flat on it's face and anything accessing /proc stalls.  If I get
  the time to do it, I'll take a gander at it with kdb.
 
  I have no patches applied to p10, I have reiserfs onboard but I highly doubt
  it's reiserfs.

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Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread J Sloan

Sorry, there was no xmms involved here -

The behavior occurred while playing unreal tournament.

But at least the sound card was in use, FWIW -

jjs

David Ford wrote:

 We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.

 -d

 J Sloan wrote:

  Just for the record, the system where I saw the problem
  has only ext2 -

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talents. Thomas Jefferson
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Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread J Sloan

OK, here's the details you asked about:

Soundblaster Awe 32 sound card
Voodoo 3 pci video card
Running Xfree86-4.0.0 (rpms from 3dfx.com)
Playing unreal tournament, no special game
options, just 800x600 graphics @ 16 bits.

To recap, the symptoms (hung ps, etc) occurred
on kernel 2.4.1-pre8 + low latency patches. (but
I don't think the low latency patches had anything
to do with it, based on the other reports)

Hope this helps

jjs

David Ford wrote:

 On 2.4.0-ac12, I played music for about 30 minutes without any problems.  I started 
up an mpeg in xmms and it
 locked in short order.  I'm sure now that it has something to do with the graphics.  
What DGA or other config
 options do you have enabled for your game?

 What video and sound card?

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Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-26 Thread J Sloan

OK, It's official now, I didn't know if it was some
weird hardware fluke or something, but one of
the computers here exhibited the same problem -

The system in question is a Pentium II 400, scsi
only (aic7xxx), running 2.4.1-pre8 plus Andrew
Morton's low latency patches.

The user was playing unreal tournament at the time
and reported that it "got weird all of a sudden". I
logged in and tried to do a ps, but the ps froze
after listing a few lines. weird, never saw that one
before. The user rebooted, so there was further
opportunity to investigate, but I thought I ought
to mention it after seeing these reports!

jjs


Aaron Lehmann wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 03:34:26PM +1100, John Sheahan wrote:
> > Hi
> > my box has been running 2.4.1-pre10 for three days.
> > This morning I noticed odd behavioue - ps and top wouuld freeze
> > with no output.
>
> I had the same problem with 2.4.1-pre10 and the zerocopy patchset.
> I came home one day and xmms was frozen. Attempting to determine
> whether it was stuck in an odd state, I ran ps aux. At a certain
> point (presumably just when it started trying to print info about the
> xmms process), ps froze up too. And any attempts to killall -9 these
> processes made the killall freeze!
>
> I'm not sure what made xmms freeze up in the first place. My first
> though was a problem in the zerocopy patchset -- most of my mp3s are
> played over NFS. However, XMMS was completely idle during the time I
> was away from the computer, so I'm not sure what caused it. It seemed
> clear, however, that the problem was contagious between processes.
>
> I reverted back to 2.4.0-ac7 and have not had any more problems of this
> nature.

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Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-26 Thread J Sloan

OK, It's official now, I didn't know if it was some
weird hardware fluke or something, but one of
the computers here exhibited the same problem -

The system in question is a Pentium II 400, scsi
only (aic7xxx), running 2.4.1-pre8 plus Andrew
Morton's low latency patches.

The user was playing unreal tournament at the time
and reported that it "got weird all of a sudden". I
logged in and tried to do a ps, but the ps froze
after listing a few lines. weird, never saw that one
before. The user rebooted, so there was further
opportunity to investigate, but I thought I ought
to mention it after seeing these reports!

jjs


Aaron Lehmann wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 03:34:26PM +1100, John Sheahan wrote:
  Hi
  my box has been running 2.4.1-pre10 for three days.
  This morning I noticed odd behavioue - ps and top wouuld freeze
  with no output.

 I had the same problem with 2.4.1-pre10 and the zerocopy patchset.
 I came home one day and xmms was frozen. Attempting to determine
 whether it was stuck in an odd state, I ran ps aux. At a certain
 point (presumably just when it started trying to print info about the
 xmms process), ps froze up too. And any attempts to killall -9 these
 processes made the killall freeze!

 I'm not sure what made xmms freeze up in the first place. My first
 though was a problem in the zerocopy patchset -- most of my mp3s are
 played over NFS. However, XMMS was completely idle during the time I
 was away from the computer, so I'm not sure what caused it. It seemed
 clear, however, that the problem was contagious between processes.

 I reverted back to 2.4.0-ac7 and have not had any more problems of this
 nature.

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Re: Total loss with 2.4.0 (release) (win98 not honoring partitioning)

2001-01-23 Thread J Sloan

Jason Venner wrote:

> Windows 98 and possibly followons doesn't quite honor 'b' type
> partitions in the extended area of the disk, particularily if you are
> past the 8gig boundary and the partitions in question are over 2gig.
> The above numbers are NOT hard boundaries, I have only seen this on 2
> computers and those numbers are approximate.

This should be an FAQ - running windows on a system
where you have a Linux partition is dangerous, and you
run the risk of losing all your data. Any Linux system that
contains important data should NOT dual boot with windows.

The voice of experience talking...

jjs

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Re: Total loss with 2.4.0 (release) (win98 not honoring partitioning)

2001-01-23 Thread J Sloan

Jason Venner wrote:

 Windows 98 and possibly followons doesn't quite honor 'b' type
 partitions in the extended area of the disk, particularily if you are
 past the 8gig boundary and the partitions in question are over 2gig.
 The above numbers are NOT hard boundaries, I have only seen this on 2
 computers and those numbers are approximate.

This should be an FAQ - running windows on a system
where you have a Linux partition is dangerous, and you
run the risk of losing all your data. Any Linux system that
contains important data should NOT dual boot with windows.

The voice of experience talking...

jjs

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Re: [linux-audio-dev] low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0

2001-01-21 Thread J Sloan

Nigel Gamble wrote:

> Yes, I most emphatically do disagree with Victor!  IRIX is used for
> mission-critical audio applications - recording as well playback - and
> other low-latency applications.  The same OS scales to large numbers of
> CPUs.  And it has the best desktop interactive response of any OS I've
> used.  I will be very happy when Linux is as good in all these areas,
> and I'm working hard to achieve this goal with negligible impact on the
> current Linux "sweet-spot" applications such as web serving.

I have to agree - when I worked at the University of California,
a number of us had SGI Indys in our offices. The desktop was
lightning fast, and the graphics were awesome. This is no news
to anybody, since SGI is known for graphics. The big surprise,
however, came when we were trying to find the best nfs server
platform, and benchmarked the SGI just for fun - as it turns out,
a little Indy workstation blew away all other platforms, including
some rather large expensive SPARC boxes, as an nfs server.

So Irix clearly showed the best of both worlds - great latency
and great throughput.

I guess what I'm saying is, there are a lot of proven concepts
in Irix, which work well in real life situations - don't throw out the
baby with the bath water -

jjs




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Re: [linux-audio-dev] low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0

2001-01-21 Thread J Sloan

Nigel Gamble wrote:

 Yes, I most emphatically do disagree with Victor!  IRIX is used for
 mission-critical audio applications - recording as well playback - and
 other low-latency applications.  The same OS scales to large numbers of
 CPUs.  And it has the best desktop interactive response of any OS I've
 used.  I will be very happy when Linux is as good in all these areas,
 and I'm working hard to achieve this goal with negligible impact on the
 current Linux "sweet-spot" applications such as web serving.

I have to agree - when I worked at the University of California,
a number of us had SGI Indys in our offices. The desktop was
lightning fast, and the graphics were awesome. This is no news
to anybody, since SGI is known for graphics. The big surprise,
however, came when we were trying to find the best nfs server
platform, and benchmarked the SGI just for fun - as it turns out,
a little Indy workstation blew away all other platforms, including
some rather large expensive SPARC boxes, as an nfs server.

So Irix clearly showed the best of both worlds - great latency
and great throughput.

I guess what I'm saying is, there are a lot of proven concepts
in Irix, which work well in real life situations - don't throw out the
baby with the bath water -

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[OT] Re: 2.4 and ipmasq modules

2001-01-20 Thread J Sloan


Aaron Lehmann wrote:
It was great to see that 2.4.0 reintroduced ipfwadm
support! I had no
need for ipchains and ended up using the wrapper around it that
emulated ipfwadm. However, 2.[02].x used to have "special IP
masquerading modules" such as ip_masq_ftp.o, ip_masq_quake.o, etc.
I
can't find these in 2.4.0. Where have they gone? Without important
modules such as ip_masq_ftp.o I cannot use non-passive ftp from behind
the masquerading firewall.
It's working here for me - the netfilter modules are named differently:
# lsmod
Module
Size  Used by

iptable_filter 
1824   0 (autoclean) (unused)
ip_nat_ftp 
3280   0 (unused)
iptable_nat   
13120   1 [ip_nat_ftp]
ip_conntrack_ftp   
2016   0 (unused)
ip_conntrack  
13408   2 [ip_nat_ftp iptable_nat ip_conntrack_ftp]
ip_tables 
10784   4 [iptable_filter iptable_nat]

 
 
 


[OT] Re: 2.4 and ipmasq modules

2001-01-20 Thread J Sloan


Aaron Lehmann wrote:
It was great to see that 2.4.0 reintroduced ipfwadm
support! I had no
need for ipchains and ended up using the wrapper around it that
emulated ipfwadm. However, 2.[02].x used to have "special IP
masquerading modules" such as ip_masq_ftp.o, ip_masq_quake.o, etc.
I
can't find these in 2.4.0. Where have they gone? Without important
modules such as ip_masq_ftp.o I cannot use non-passive ftp from behind
the masquerading firewall.
It's working here for me - the netfilter modules are named differently:
# lsmod
Module
Size Used by
snip>
iptable_filter
1824 0 (autoclean) (unused)
ip_nat_ftp
3280 0 (unused)
iptable_nat
13120 1 [ip_nat_ftp]
ip_conntrack_ftp
2016 0 (unused)
ip_conntrack
13408 2 [ip_nat_ftp iptable_nat ip_conntrack_ftp]
ip_tables
10784 4 [iptable_filter iptable_nat]
snip>





Re: Problem with networking in 2.4.0

2001-01-17 Thread J Sloan

Try this shot in the dark:

echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn

jjs

snpe wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have got 2 Linux machine with kernel 2.4.0 i kernel 2.2.18.
> I am in Belgrade , Yugoslavia and I can't access to any hosts :
>
> for example, www.linux.co.yu (Island), www.skyrr.is, www.hotmail.com etc
>
> Access is ok with kernel 2.2 even in a case when machine with 2.4 kernel is
> masquerading host.
> It doesn't work with any port.
> Ping works.
>
> I think that these hosts are behind CISCO PIX firewall.
>
> I am not sure if it is related with seting kernel.

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[OT]: Linux v.2.4.0 and Netscape 4.76?

2001-01-17 Thread J Sloan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The problem: symptoms
>
> It concerns the behaviour of Netscape after upgrading from kernel
> 2.2.16 to 2.4.0. With the new kernel Netscape locates and connects to
> a URL, and sometimes begins to download, but then it just sits there
> indefinitely (without downloading any data).

Just a data point - Netscape 4.76 is working wonderfully
for me on several 2.4.x systems - well, netscape does die
fairly often with bus errors, but when it's running it runs well -

jjs

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[OT]: Linux v.2.4.0 and Netscape 4.76?

2001-01-17 Thread J Sloan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The problem: symptoms

 It concerns the behaviour of Netscape after upgrading from kernel
 2.2.16 to 2.4.0. With the new kernel Netscape locates and connects to
 a URL, and sometimes begins to download, but then it just sits there
 indefinitely (without downloading any data).

Just a data point - Netscape 4.76 is working wonderfully
for me on several 2.4.x systems - well, netscape does die
fairly often with bus errors, but when it's running it runs well -

jjs

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