Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Stephen E. Clark

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Let's see, ORBS takes out the ISP route, DUL takes out the direct one.  Is
> >it any wonder people are hostile toward those two lists?
> 
> Exactly.  I hate spam, but I hate ORBS and DUL even more.  If I'm going to get
> the shaft, I'd rather it be from the "bad guys" (spammers) than from
> self-appointed net.cops.
> 
> Wayne
> 
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Re: goodbye

2001-04-09 Thread Stephen E. Clark

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Let's see, ORBS takes out the ISP route, DUL takes out the direct one.  Is
 it any wonder people are hostile toward those two lists?
 
 Exactly.  I hate spam, but I hate ORBS and DUL even more.  If I'm going to get
 the shaft, I'd rather it be from the "bad guys" (spammers) than from
 self-appointed net.cops.
 
 Wayne
 
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Re: uninteruptable sleep

2001-04-03 Thread Stephen E. Clark

That happened to me with 2.4.2-ac28 when I tried using DRM.
I also got the following messages in syslog.

/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:04 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:04 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:15 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:15 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:16 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:40 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:18 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:31 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:32 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:45 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:45 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:48 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:49 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!/

So I turned off DRI in X 4.0.3

HTH
Steve

Trevor Nichols wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Since upgrading to the latest stable (2.4.3) kernel, I've noticed that
> randomly some processes are going into an uninteruptable sleep and not
> waking up at all.
> 
> It's happened to nautilus and today just happened to mozilla also.
> Another common related problem is the load averages go up to n + "normal"
> where n is the number of processes that have gone uninteruptable sleep.
> This is making me think it's a kernel related problem.
> 
> I had one time where nautilus with 9 [presumably forked] processes of
> itself go this way, causing load averages to go 9+, however the system
> doesn't appear to be straining or strugling under that much load.
> 
> The previous kernel version that I was using (2.4.1) did not have this
> problem.
> 
> One last thing, if this turns out to be a non-kernel problem, the
> processes that *do* get stuck, are unkillable - even by root with SIGKILL.
> Is there any way for it to be able to? :)  So far I have to reboot each
> time it happens.
> 
> Best regards,
> Trevor Nichols.
> 
> ps please CC replies to my address. thanks.
> 
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Re: uninteruptable sleep

2001-04-03 Thread Stephen E. Clark

That happened to me with 2.4.2-ac28 when I tried using DRM.
I also got the following messages in syslog.

/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:04 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:04 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:15 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:15 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:16 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:15:40 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:18 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:31 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:32 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:45 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:45 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:48 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
/var/log/messages.1:Mar 31 12:16:49 joker kernel:
[drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR* r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!/

So I turned off DRI in X 4.0.3

HTH
Steve

Trevor Nichols wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Since upgrading to the latest stable (2.4.3) kernel, I've noticed that
 randomly some processes are going into an uninteruptable sleep and not
 waking up at all.
 
 It's happened to nautilus and today just happened to mozilla also.
 Another common related problem is the load averages go up to n + "normal"
 where n is the number of processes that have gone uninteruptable sleep.
 This is making me think it's a kernel related problem.
 
 I had one time where nautilus with 9 [presumably forked] processes of
 itself go this way, causing load averages to go 9+, however the system
 doesn't appear to be straining or strugling under that much load.
 
 The previous kernel version that I was using (2.4.1) did not have this
 problem.
 
 One last thing, if this turns out to be a non-kernel problem, the
 processes that *do* get stuck, are unkillable - even by root with SIGKILL.
 Is there any way for it to be able to? :)  So far I have to reboot each
 time it happens.
 
 Best regards,
 Trevor Nichols.
 
 ps please CC replies to my address. thanks.
 
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MTRR on AMD THUNDERBIRD

2001-03-31 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Anyone know the status of mtrr the AMD Thunderbird? It does not seem to
work for me anymore.

 cat /proc/mtrr
reg00: base=0x (   0MB), size=16711936MB: write-back, count=1
joker:/
# echo "base=0xd400 size=0x200 type=write-combining" >|
/proc/mtrr
joker:/
# cat /proc/mtrr
reg00: base=0x (   0MB), size=16711936MB: write-back, count=1 

Linux version 2.4.2-ac18 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #5 Mon Mar 19 17:42:56
EST 2001
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 @  (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0400 @ 0009fc00 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0001 @ 000f (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0fef @ 0010 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 3000 @ 0fff (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: d000 @ 0fff3000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 0001 @  (reserved)
On node 0 totalpages: 65536
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 61440 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=l-2.4.2ac18pnp ro root=1601
ramdisk=0 mem=256M
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 800.056 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 1595.80 BogoMIPS
Memory: 255176k/262144k available (1327k kernel code, 6580k reserved,
422k data, 224k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.5.0 initialized
CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff , vendor = 2
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff  
CPU: After generic, caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff  
CPU: Common caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff  
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor stepping 02
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.37 (20001109) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb430, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Bus master Pipeline request disabled
PCI: Disabled enhanced CPU to PCI writes
PCI: Bursting cornercase bug worked around
PCI: Post Write Fail set to Retry
PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/0686] at 00:07.0
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: Card 'SMC EtherEZ (8416)'
isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v1.8
parport_pc: Strange, can't probe Via 686A parallel port: io=0x378,
irq=7, dma=-1parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP(,...)]
also *** any ideas about the above message
*

i2c-core.o: i2c core module
i2c-dev.o: i2c /dev entries driver module
i2c-core.o: driver i2c-dev dummy driver registered.
i2c-algo-bit.o: i2c bit algorithm module
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
lp0: using parport0 (polling).
block: queued sectors max/low 169546kB/56515kB, 512 slots per queue
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
VP_IDE: chipset revision 16
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686a (rev 22) IDE UDMA66 controller on pci00:07.1
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: JTS CORPORATION CHAMPION MODEL C3200-2A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 91366U4, ATA DISK drive
hdc: Maxtor 53073H4, ATA DISK drive
hdd: ATAPI 52X CDROM, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: 6306048 sectors (3229 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=6256/16/63, DMA
hdb: 26684784 sectors (13663 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=1661/255/63,
UDMA(66)
hdc: 60030432 sectors (30736 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=59554/16/63,
UDMA(66)
hdd: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
 hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3
 hdc: hdc1 hdc2
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
smc-ultra.c: ISAPnP reports SMC EtherEZ (8416) at i/o 0x240, irq 5.
smc-ultra.c:v2.02 2/3/98 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
eth0: SMC EtherEZ at 0x240, 00 E0 29 03 E5 92,assigned  IRQ 5 memory
0xc8000-0xc9fff.
SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY (dynamic channels, max=256).
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
Serial driver version 5.02 (2000-08-09) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ
SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 

MTRR on AMD THUNDERBIRD

2001-03-31 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Anyone know the status of mtrr the AMD Thunderbird? It does not seem to
work for me anymore.

 cat /proc/mtrr
reg00: base=0x (   0MB), size=16711936MB: write-back, count=1
joker:/
# echo "base=0xd400 size=0x200 type=write-combining" |
/proc/mtrr
joker:/
# cat /proc/mtrr
reg00: base=0x (   0MB), size=16711936MB: write-back, count=1 

Linux version 2.4.2-ac18 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #5 Mon Mar 19 17:42:56
EST 2001
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 @  (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0400 @ 0009fc00 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0001 @ 000f (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0fef @ 0010 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 3000 @ 0fff (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: d000 @ 0fff3000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 0001 @  (reserved)
On node 0 totalpages: 65536
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 61440 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=l-2.4.2ac18pnp ro root=1601
ramdisk=0 mem=256M
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 800.056 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 1595.80 BogoMIPS
Memory: 255176k/262144k available (1327k kernel code, 6580k reserved,
422k data, 224k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.5.0 initialized
CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff , vendor = 2
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff  
CPU: After generic, caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff  
CPU: Common caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff  
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor stepping 02
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.37 (20001109) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb430, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Bus master Pipeline request disabled
PCI: Disabled enhanced CPU to PCI writes
PCI: Bursting cornercase bug worked around
PCI: Post Write Fail set to Retry
PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/0686] at 00:07.0
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: Card 'SMC EtherEZ (8416)'
isapnp: 1 Plug  Play card detected total
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v1.8
parport_pc: Strange, can't probe Via 686A parallel port: io=0x378,
irq=7, dma=-1parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP(,...)]
also *** any ideas about the above message
*

i2c-core.o: i2c core module
i2c-dev.o: i2c /dev entries driver module
i2c-core.o: driver i2c-dev dummy driver registered.
i2c-algo-bit.o: i2c bit algorithm module
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
lp0: using parport0 (polling).
block: queued sectors max/low 169546kB/56515kB, 512 slots per queue
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
VP_IDE: chipset revision 16
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686a (rev 22) IDE UDMA66 controller on pci00:07.1
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: JTS CORPORATION CHAMPION MODEL C3200-2A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 91366U4, ATA DISK drive
hdc: Maxtor 53073H4, ATA DISK drive
hdd: ATAPI 52X CDROM, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: 6306048 sectors (3229 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=6256/16/63, DMA
hdb: 26684784 sectors (13663 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=1661/255/63,
UDMA(66)
hdc: 60030432 sectors (30736 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=59554/16/63,
UDMA(66)
hdd: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
 hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3
 hdc: hdc1 hdc2
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
smc-ultra.c: ISAPnP reports SMC EtherEZ (8416) at i/o 0x240, irq 5.
smc-ultra.c:v2.02 2/3/98 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
eth0: SMC EtherEZ at 0x240, 00 E0 29 03 E5 92,assigned  IRQ 5 memory
0xc8000-0xc9fff.
SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY (dynamic channels, max=256).
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
Serial driver version 5.02 (2000-08-09) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ
SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 

Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init

2001-03-23 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > You don't beleve me if I tell you: DOS extender and JVM (Java Virtual
> > Machine)
> 
> The JVM doesnt actually. The JVM will itself spontaenously explode in real
> life when out of memory. Maybe the JVM on a DOS extender 8)
> 
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Back in the early nineties I was working with 18 developers on a Data
General Aviion running DGUX. The system had only 16mb of memory and
600mb of disk. We were all continuously going thru the edit, compile,
debug steps developing as large Computer Aided Dispatch System. Never
did this system with its limited resources crash, or randomly start
killing user or system processes.

My $.02.
Steve
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Re: RTNL assert

2000-10-28 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> "Stephen E. Clark" wrote:
> >
> > When I configure in Tunneling I get the following error message. Is this
> > normal? This with 2.4test9pre5
> >
> > GRE over IPv4 tunneling driver
> > RTNL: assertion failed at devinet.c(775):inetdev_event
> 
> The rtnetlink lock needs to be taken around
> register_netdevice().  There should be a function
> which does these three common steps, but there isn't.
> 
> --- linux-2.4.0-test10-pre5/net/ipv4/ip_gre.c   Sat Sep  9 16:19:30 2000
> +++ linux-akpm/net/ipv4/ip_gre.cSat Oct 28 21:44:23 2000
> @@ -1266,7 +1266,9 @@
>  #ifdef MODULE
> register_netdev(_fb_tunnel_dev);
>  #else
> +   rtnl_lock();
> register_netdevice(_fb_tunnel_dev);
> +   rtnl_unlock();
>  #endif
> 
> inet_add_protocol(_protocol);
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Thanks Andrew,

I also get the same error if I try to configure in normal IPV4
tunneling. I guess it needs the same kind of patch.

Oct 27 14:46:59 joker kernel: IPv4 over IPv4 tunneling driver 
Oct 27 14:46:59 joker kernel: RTNL: assertion failed at
devinet.c(775):inetdev_event 
Oct 27 14:46:59 joker kernel: GRE over IPv4 tunneling driver 
Oct 27 14:46:59 joker kernel: RTNL: assertion failed at
devinet.c(775):inetdev_event

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RTNL assert

2000-10-27 Thread Stephen E. Clark

When I configure in Tunneling I get the following error message. Is this
normal? This with 2.4test9pre5

GRE over IPv4 tunneling driver
RTNL: assertion failed at devinet.c(775):inetdev_event
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RTNL assert

2000-10-27 Thread Stephen E. Clark

When I configure in Tunneling I get the following error message. Is this
normal?

GRE over IPv4 tunneling driver
RTNL: assertion failed at devinet.c(775):inetdev_event
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RTNL assert

2000-10-27 Thread Stephen E. Clark

When I configure in Tunneling I get the following error message. Is this
normal?

GRE over IPv4 tunneling driver
RTNL: assertion failed at devinet.c(775):inetdev_event
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RTNL assert

2000-10-27 Thread Stephen E. Clark

When I configure in Tunneling I get the following error message. Is this
normal? This with 2.4test9pre5

GRE over IPv4 tunneling driver
RTNL: assertion failed at devinet.c(775):inetdev_event
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Re: What is up with Redhat 7.0?

2000-09-29 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Maybe this thread should be on the redhat list not the kernel list.

Alec Smith wrote:
> 
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:58:22 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Alec Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David M. Rector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: What is up with Redhat 7.0?
> 
> Congratulations, you got further than I did. I couldn't even get that
> disaster known as RH7.0 to even install. It died with some error about not
> being able to detect free disk space after formatting the paritions... Or
> something like that. RedHack 6.2 installed fine on the same machine.
> 
> I'll stick to Debian -- It might be a bit outdated at times, but Debian
> "just works." Maybe RedHat could take some hints from the Debian guys.
> 
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, David M. Rector wrote:
> 
> >
> > Has anyone tried Redhat 7.0 yet? What a mess.
> >
> > 1) It would not compile stock kernels out of the box. (ends at
> > compress.S) with a fatal error.
> >
> > 2) Trying to compile the kernel source for 2.2.16 that comes with the
> > redhat disk (which is very different than the stock 2.2.16) causes my
> > system come to a screeching halt, no messages, no errors, crashed solid.
> >
> > I have a Supermicro PIIIDME motherboard with a GeForce2 graphics card,
> > adaptec 2940UW scsi and seagate UW 9 gig scsi drive.
> >
> > Dave Rector
> > *:^)
> >
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Re: What is up with Redhat 7.0?

2000-09-29 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Maybe this thread should be on the redhat list not the kernel list.

Alec Smith wrote:
 
 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:58:22 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Alec Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: David M. Rector [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: What is up with Redhat 7.0?
 
 Congratulations, you got further than I did. I couldn't even get that
 disaster known as RH7.0 to even install. It died with some error about not
 being able to detect free disk space after formatting the paritions... Or
 something like that. RedHack 6.2 installed fine on the same machine.
 
 I'll stick to Debian -- It might be a bit outdated at times, but Debian
 "just works." Maybe RedHat could take some hints from the Debian guys.
 
 On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, David M. Rector wrote:
 
 
  Has anyone tried Redhat 7.0 yet? What a mess.
 
  1) It would not compile stock kernels out of the box. (ends at
  compress.S) with a fatal error.
 
  2) Trying to compile the kernel source for 2.2.16 that comes with the
  redhat disk (which is very different than the stock 2.2.16) causes my
  system come to a screeching halt, no messages, no errors, crashed solid.
 
  I have a Supermicro PIIIDME motherboard with a GeForce2 graphics card,
  adaptec 2940UW scsi and seagate UW 9 gig scsi drive.
 
  Dave Rector
  *:^)
 
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Re: ip forwarding/tunneling for WIN PPTP broken in 2.2.18pre9?

2000-09-24 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Alan,

Sorry for the noise I must be getting senile in my old age. I forgot I
has patched 2.2.14 to support the vpn masquerading.

Thanks for your indulgence and response.
Steve

Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > I had been using 2.2.14pre16 to forward Win PPTP from my winblows
> > machine to our Corp Business network.
> 
> With some kind of PPTP package on top of Linux ?
> 
> > I upgraded to 2.2.18pre9 and used make oldconfig using my .config file
> > from my 2.2.14 directory.
> > I can no longer log into our Corp network using my Linux system as
> > ip-forwarder for my winblows machine using VPN.
> >
> > I rebooted 2.2.14 and things worked fine.
> >
> > Am I missing something? Is there anything special I need to do for
> > 2.2.18?
> 
> There shouldnt be - do 2.2.16 or 2.2.17 work ?
> 
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ip forwarding/tunneling for WIN PPTP broken in 2.2.18pre9?

2000-09-24 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Juan,

I had been using 2.2.14pre16 to forward Win PPTP from my winblows
machine to our Corp Business network.

I upgraded to 2.2.18pre9 and used make oldconfig using my .config file
from my 2.2.14 directory.

I can no longer log into our Corp network using my Linux system as
ip-forwarder for my winblows machine using VPN.

I rebooted 2.2.14 and things worked fine.

Am I missing something? Is there anything special I need to do for
2.2.18?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Steve
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Re: ip forwarding/tunneling for WIN PPTP broken in 2.2.18pre9?

2000-09-24 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Alan,

Sorry for the noise I must be getting senile in my old age. I forgot I
has patched 2.2.14 to support the vpn masquerading.

Thanks for your indulgence and response.
Steve

Alan Cox wrote:
 
  I had been using 2.2.14pre16 to forward Win PPTP from my winblows
  machine to our Corp Business network.
 
 With some kind of PPTP package on top of Linux ?
 
  I upgraded to 2.2.18pre9 and used make oldconfig using my .config file
  from my 2.2.14 directory.
  I can no longer log into our Corp network using my Linux system as
  ip-forwarder for my winblows machine using VPN.
 
  I rebooted 2.2.14 and things worked fine.
 
  Am I missing something? Is there anything special I need to do for
  2.2.18?
 
 There shouldnt be - do 2.2.16 or 2.2.17 work ?
 
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ip forwarding/tunneling for WIN PPTP broken in 2.2.18pre9?

2000-09-23 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Linux kernel,

I had been using 2.2.14pre16 to forward Win PPTP from my winblows
machine to our Corp Business network.

I upgraded to 2.2.18pre9 and used make oldconfig using my .config file
from my 2.2.14 directory.

I can no longer log into our Corp network using my Linux system as
ip-forwarder for my winblows machine using VPN.

I rebooted 2.2.14 and things worked fine.

Am I missing something? Is there anything special I need to do for
2.2.18?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Steve
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ip forwarding/tunneling for WIN PPTP broken in 2.2.18pre9?

2000-09-23 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Linux kernel,

I had been using 2.2.14pre16 to forward Win PPTP from my winblows
machine to our Corp Business network.

I upgraded to 2.2.18pre9 and used make oldconfig using my .config file
from my 2.2.14 directory.

I can no longer log into our Corp network using my Linux system as
ip-forwarder for my winblows machine using VPN.

I rebooted 2.2.14 and things worked fine.

Am I missing something? Is there anything special I need to do for
2.2.18?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Steve
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attempt to access beyond end of device

2000-09-16 Thread Stephen E. Clark


Help.

I am getting the above error when trying to build an Oracle Database. I
have tried 2.2.14 and
2.2.18pre8 with the same results. I am putting the DB on /usr8 which
from the df -m command should have plenty of room.

Is this a kernel problem or a problem on my part?

Below is part of my /var/log/messages file which shows my configuration
as well as the errors.

How do I relate dev 08:02 to my actual physical devices. I have 2 ide
drives and 3 scsi drives.

At the end of /var/log/messages I have appended my /etc/fstab, the
output from a df -m comand and fdisk output for each drive.

Any help in pointing to the problem would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Steve

excerpts from /var/log/messages:

Sep 15 19:01:54 joker syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker syslog: syslogd startup succeeded
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker syslog: klogd startup succeeded
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.2.18pre8
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Loaded 8573 symbols from
/boot/System.map-2.2.18pre8.
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.2.18.
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: No module symbols loaded.
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Linux version 2.2.18pre8
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux
(egcs-1.1.2 release)) #2 Fri Sep 15 22:55:43 EDT 2000 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Detected 451030 kHz processor. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 897.84 BogoMIPS 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Memory: 127452k/131072k available (1464k
kernel code, 412k reserved, 1680k data, 64k init) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Dentry hash table entries: 16384 (order 5,
128k) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Buffer cache hash table entries: 131072
(order 7, 512k) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Page cache hash table entries: 32768
(order 5, 128k) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0
initialized 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: CPU: L1 I Cache: 32K  L1 D Cache: 32K 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor stepping 0c 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using
exception 16 error reporting. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: mtrr: v1.35a (19990819) Richard Gooch
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at
0xfb220 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: PCI: Using configuration type 1 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: PCI: Probing PCI hardware 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: PCI: 00:38 [1106/0586]: Work around ISA
DMA hangs (00) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Based upon Swansea University Computer
Society NET3.039 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux
NET4.0. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 131072
bhash 65536) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: IPv4 over IPv4 tunneling driver 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: early initialization of device tunl0 is
deferred 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: GRE over IPv4 tunneling driver 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: early initialization of device gre0 is
deferred 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Initializing RT netlink socket 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Starting kswapd v 1.5  
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2] 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Detected PS/2 Mouse Port. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial
options enabled 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling). 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Real Time Clock Driver v1.09 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: RAM disk driver initialized:  16 RAM disks
of 0K size 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: loop: registered device at major 7 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev
39 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe
irqs later 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS
settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ide0: VIA Bus-Master (U)DMA Timing Config
Success 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS
settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ide1: VIA Bus-Master (U)DMA Timing Config
Success 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: hda: JTS CORPORATION CHAMPION MODEL
C3200-2A, ATA DISK drive 
Sep 15 

attempt to access beyond end of device

2000-09-16 Thread Stephen E. Clark


Help.

I am getting the above error when trying to build an Oracle Database. I
have tried 2.2.14 and
2.2.18pre8 with the same results. I am putting the DB on /usr8 which
from the df -m command should have plenty of room.

Is this a kernel problem or a problem on my part?

Below is part of my /var/log/messages file which shows my configuration
as well as the errors.

How do I relate dev 08:02 to my actual physical devices. I have 2 ide
drives and 3 scsi drives.

At the end of /var/log/messages I have appended my /etc/fstab, the
output from a df -m comand and fdisk output for each drive.

Any help in pointing to the problem would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Steve

excerpts from /var/log/messages:

Sep 15 19:01:54 joker syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker syslog: syslogd startup succeeded
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker syslog: klogd startup succeeded
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.2.18pre8
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Loaded 8573 symbols from
/boot/System.map-2.2.18pre8.
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.2.18.
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: No module symbols loaded.
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Linux version 2.2.18pre8
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux
(egcs-1.1.2 release)) #2 Fri Sep 15 22:55:43 EDT 2000 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Detected 451030 kHz processor. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 897.84 BogoMIPS 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Memory: 127452k/131072k available (1464k
kernel code, 412k reserved, 1680k data, 64k init) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Dentry hash table entries: 16384 (order 5,
128k) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Buffer cache hash table entries: 131072
(order 7, 512k) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Page cache hash table entries: 32768
(order 5, 128k) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0
initialized 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: CPU: L1 I Cache: 32K  L1 D Cache: 32K 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor stepping 0c 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using
exception 16 error reporting. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: mtrr: v1.35a (19990819) Richard Gooch
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at
0xfb220 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: PCI: Using configuration type 1 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: PCI: Probing PCI hardware 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: PCI: 00:38 [1106/0586]: Work around ISA
DMA hangs (00) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Based upon Swansea University Computer
Society NET3.039 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux
NET4.0. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 131072
bhash 65536) 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: IPv4 over IPv4 tunneling driver 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: early initialization of device tunl0 is
deferred 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: GRE over IPv4 tunneling driver 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: early initialization of device gre0 is
deferred 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Initializing RT netlink socket 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Starting kswapd v 1.5  
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2] 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Detected PS/2 Mouse Port. 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial
options enabled 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling). 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: Real Time Clock Driver v1.09 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: RAM disk driver initialized:  16 RAM disks
of 0K size 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: loop: registered device at major 7 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev
39 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe
irqs later 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS
settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ide0: VIA Bus-Master (U)DMA Timing Config
Success 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS
settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: ide1: VIA Bus-Master (U)DMA Timing Config
Success 
Sep 15 19:01:55 joker kernel: hda: JTS CORPORATION CHAMPION MODEL
C3200-2A, ATA DISK drive 
Sep 15 

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-09 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Oliver Xymoron wrote:
> >
> > Tools are tools. They don't make better code. They make better code easier
> > if used properly.
> 
> I think you missed the point of my original reply completely.
> 
> The _technical_ side of the tool in question is completely secondary.
> 
> The social engineering side is very real, and immediate.
...

> Linus
> 

Then why don't we get rid of the compilers and assemblers and go back to
the old way of doing it
all - coding on the bare metal. Believe it or not at one time it was
done this way. Imagine where
we would be if everyone had said lets not invent tools to make ourselves
more productive.

My $.02

Steve Clark
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Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-09 Thread Stephen E. Clark

Linus Torvalds wrote:
 
 On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Oliver Xymoron wrote:
 
  Tools are tools. They don't make better code. They make better code easier
  if used properly.
 
 I think you missed the point of my original reply completely.
 
 The _technical_ side of the tool in question is completely secondary.
 
 The social engineering side is very real, and immediate.
...

 Linus
 

Then why don't we get rid of the compilers and assemblers and go back to
the old way of doing it
all - coding on the bare metal. Believe it or not at one time it was
done this way. Imagine where
we would be if everyone had said lets not invent tools to make ourselves
more productive.

My $.02

Steve Clark
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