Re: [Patch] Support UTF-8 scripts

2005-08-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Lee Revell wrote:
> My point exactly, it's idiotic for Perl6 to use these as OPERATORS, the
> atoms of the language, when there's not even a platform independent way
> to type them in.

I anyone had bothered to read the URL in one of the earlier emails you
would have seen that '<<' is an accepted alternative spelling.

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Re: [Patch] Support UTF-8 scripts

2005-08-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Lee Revell wrote:
 My point exactly, it's idiotic for Perl6 to use these as OPERATORS, the
 atoms of the language, when there's not even a platform independent way
 to type them in.

I anyone had bothered to read the URL in one of the earlier emails you
would have seen that '' is an accepted alternative spelling.

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Re: share/private/slave a subtree - define vs enum

2005-07-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Mike Waychison wrote:
> enums in C are (de?)promoted to integral types under most conditions, so 
> the type-checking is useless.

It's a warning in gcc afaik and spare should complain as well.

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Re: share/private/slave a subtree - define vs enum

2005-07-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Bryan Henderson wrote:
> Two advantages of the enum declaration that haven't been mentioned yet, 
> that help me significantly:

There is another one: with enums the compiler checks types for you.

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Re: share/private/slave a subtree - define vs enum

2005-07-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Bryan Henderson wrote:
 Two advantages of the enum declaration that haven't been mentioned yet, 
 that help me significantly:

There is another one: with enums the compiler checks types for you.

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Re: share/private/slave a subtree - define vs enum

2005-07-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Mike Waychison wrote:
 enums in C are (de?)promoted to integral types under most conditions, so 
 the type-checking is useless.

It's a warning in gcc afaik and spare should complain as well.

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Re: more git updates..

2005-04-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christopher Li wrote:
> Rename should just work.  It will create a new tree object and you
> will notice that in the entry that changed, the hash for the blob
> object is the same.

What if you rename and change a file within a changeset?

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Re: more git updates..

2005-04-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christopher Li wrote:
 Rename should just work.  It will create a new tree object and you
 will notice that in the entry that changed, the hash for the blob
 object is the same.

What if you rename and change a file within a changeset?

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Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.

2005-03-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Sean wrote:
> On Sat, March 26, 2005 12:52 pm, Mark Fortescue said:
> > In order to be able to use SYSFS to debug the driver during development
> > the way I would like to be able to do, I will have to temporally change
> > the module licence line to "GPL". When the development is finnished I
> > then need to remove all the code that accesses the SYSFS stuf in the
> > Kernel and change the module back to a "Proprietry" licence in order to
> > comply with other requirements. This will then hinder any debugging if
> > future issues arise.
> 
> Likely this won't be enough to keep you or your company from being sued.

Are you sure? It is perfectly legal to relicense things if you own the
copyright. As long as he never distributes his GPL version I don't see
why he should have a problem.

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Re: Can't use SYSFS for Proprietry driver modules !!!.

2005-03-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Sean wrote:
 On Sat, March 26, 2005 12:52 pm, Mark Fortescue said:
  In order to be able to use SYSFS to debug the driver during development
  the way I would like to be able to do, I will have to temporally change
  the module licence line to GPL. When the development is finnished I
  then need to remove all the code that accesses the SYSFS stuf in the
  Kernel and change the module back to a Proprietry licence in order to
  comply with other requirements. This will then hinder any debugging if
  future issues arise.
 
 Likely this won't be enough to keep you or your company from being sued.

Are you sure? It is perfectly legal to relicense things if you own the
copyright. As long as he never distributes his GPL version I don't see
why he should have a problem.

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rtc misses interrupts after resume

2005-03-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I recently upgraded my laptop to 2.6.11.3 and removed the notsc boot
option I added a fairly long time ago to see if things worked properly
without it now. It seems to work, except that after a resume I get
an awful lot of these messages:

Mar 15 09:53:04 typhoon kernel: rtc: lost some interrupts at 1024Hz.
Mar 15 09:53:06 typhoon last message repeated 103 times

and indeed looking at /proc/interrupts interrupt 8 is not getting hit.

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rtc misses interrupts after resume

2005-03-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I recently upgraded my laptop to 2.6.11.3 and removed the notsc boot
option I added a fairly long time ago to see if things worked properly
without it now. It seems to work, except that after a resume I get
an awful lot of these messages:

Mar 15 09:53:04 typhoon kernel: rtc: lost some interrupts at 1024Hz.
Mar 15 09:53:06 typhoon last message repeated 103 times

and indeed looking at /proc/interrupts interrupt 8 is not getting hit.

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Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering

2005-03-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jeff Garzik wrote:
> We need to send a clear signal to users "this is when you can really 
> start hammering it."  A signal that does not change from release to 
> release.  A signal that does not require intimate knowledge of the 
> kernel devel process.

The problem I see with that is that the majority is going to wait until
one or two releases after that point since the first 'stablization
point' since that the first such release will not have received much
testing yet. Just like the .0 release for a lot of projects turns
out to a beta version even though they had a seperate beta test.

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Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering

2005-03-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Andrew Morton wrote:
> I'd say that mainline kernel.org for the past couple of years has been a
> technology, not a product.

If you consider mainline a technology and distributions your main users,
what is the use of a stable release every months or two months? No
distribution is going to updates its release that often. Looking at the
Debian kernel packages it took at least a month just to get a single
release ready for distro use. Needless to say, Debian (or any other
distro) is not going to go through that for every release.

We already saw that with 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 kernels: distributions rarely
used the last mainline release but older released with (a sometimes
huge amount of) patches.

So continueing that thought pattern; why not go for something like 6
month release cycles? That seems to fit with a distro release cycles.

> So I'd suspect that on average, kernel releases are getting more stable. 
> But the big big problem we have is that even though we fixed ten things for
> each one thing we broke, those single breakages tend to be prominent, and
> people get upset.  It's fairly bad PR that Dell Inspiron keyboards don't
> work in 2.6.11, for example...

same for latitude keyboards after a resume I just discovered :(

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Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering

2005-03-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Andrew Morton wrote:
 I'd say that mainline kernel.org for the past couple of years has been a
 technology, not a product.

If you consider mainline a technology and distributions your main users,
what is the use of a stable release every months or two months? No
distribution is going to updates its release that often. Looking at the
Debian kernel packages it took at least a month just to get a single
release ready for distro use. Needless to say, Debian (or any other
distro) is not going to go through that for every release.

We already saw that with 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 kernels: distributions rarely
used the last mainline release but older released with (a sometimes
huge amount of) patches.

So continueing that thought pattern; why not go for something like 6
month release cycles? That seems to fit with a distro release cycles.

 So I'd suspect that on average, kernel releases are getting more stable. 
 But the big big problem we have is that even though we fixed ten things for
 each one thing we broke, those single breakages tend to be prominent, and
 people get upset.  It's fairly bad PR that Dell Inspiron keyboards don't
 work in 2.6.11, for example...

same for latitude keyboards after a resume I just discovered :(

Wichert.

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Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering

2005-03-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jeff Garzik wrote:
 We need to send a clear signal to users this is when you can really 
 start hammering it.  A signal that does not change from release to 
 release.  A signal that does not require intimate knowledge of the 
 kernel devel process.

The problem I see with that is that the majority is going to wait until
one or two releases after that point since the first 'stablization
point' since that the first such release will not have received much
testing yet. Just like the .0 release for a lot of projects turns
out to a beta version even though they had a seperate beta test.

Wichert.

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Re: 2.6: drivers/input/power.c is never built

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously James Simmons wrote:
> DBUS isthe future. I just wish they had  programing howto for the average 
> joe to write apps for it.

The docs are good enough in my experience, there just seems to be a gap
between the docs and the code. Strangely enough in this case there are
documented API bits that are not implemented instead of the other way
around as usual.

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Re: 2.6: drivers/input/power.c is never built

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Looks like some work has already been done on getting kernel events out
> to dbus, too. Found this email:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/utopia-list/2004-July/msg00031.html

Or http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dbus/2005-February/002170.html
or one of the few others that are there.

And the answer to all of those seems to be at HAL.

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Re: 2.6.11rc4: irq 5, nobody cared

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jeff Garzik wrote:
> These are _duplicate_ messages.  The To/CC doesn't vary in my 
> experience.  Therefore, sorting on To/CC always guarantees my messages 
> go into the correct folder.

It depends highly on how you filter. It do not use To/Cc headers
to choose the mailbox to deliver a message in since that will not work
with things like bounces and aliases. Using headers like List-Id or
X-Mailing-List is reliable, but does not work with the duplicate
filtering you suggested.

It is a matter of choosing your own preference. And ours seem to differ.

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Re: 2.6.11rc4: irq 5, nobody cared

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jeff Garzik wrote:
> You should add this to your procmailrc :)
> 
> # Nuke duplicate messages
> :0 Wh: msgid.lock
> | $FORMAIL -D 32768 msgid.cache

That has the nasty side-effect of spreading messages for a single
discussion amongst many different mailboxes depending on which path
happens to be the first to deliver an email to you.

Wichert.

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Re: 2.6: drivers/input/power.c is never built

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously James Simmons wrote:
> Checkout DBUS. Its very nice. 

D-BUS is already userspace. netlink however is a nice transport system
and there are several existing tools that pass messages from netlink
onto D-BUS.

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Re: OT: Why is usb data many times the cpu hog that firewire is?

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Gene Heskett wrote:
> Thats what I was afraid of, which makes using it for a motion detected 
> burgular alarm source considerably less than practical since the 
> machine must be able to do other things too.

Dependin on the type of compression used you might be able to detect
motion by analyzing the compressed datastream.

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Re: OT: Why is usb data many times the cpu hog that firewire is?

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Gene Heskett wrote:
 Thats what I was afraid of, which makes using it for a motion detected 
 burgular alarm source considerably less than practical since the 
 machine must be able to do other things too.

Dependin on the type of compression used you might be able to detect
motion by analyzing the compressed datastream.

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Re: 2.6: drivers/input/power.c is never built

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously James Simmons wrote:
 Checkout DBUS. Its very nice. 

D-BUS is already userspace. netlink however is a nice transport system
and there are several existing tools that pass messages from netlink
onto D-BUS.

Wichert.

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Re: 2.6.11rc4: irq 5, nobody cared

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jeff Garzik wrote:
 You should add this to your procmailrc :)
 
 # Nuke duplicate messages
 :0 Wh: msgid.lock
 | $FORMAIL -D 32768 msgid.cache

That has the nasty side-effect of spreading messages for a single
discussion amongst many different mailboxes depending on which path
happens to be the first to deliver an email to you.

Wichert.

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Re: 2.6.11rc4: irq 5, nobody cared

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jeff Garzik wrote:
 These are _duplicate_ messages.  The To/CC doesn't vary in my 
 experience.  Therefore, sorting on To/CC always guarantees my messages 
 go into the correct folder.

It depends highly on how you filter. It do not use To/Cc headers
to choose the mailbox to deliver a message in since that will not work
with things like bounces and aliases. Using headers like List-Id or
X-Mailing-List is reliable, but does not work with the duplicate
filtering you suggested.

It is a matter of choosing your own preference. And ours seem to differ.

Wichert.

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Re: 2.6: drivers/input/power.c is never built

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Nigel Cunningham wrote:
 Looks like some work has already been done on getting kernel events out
 to dbus, too. Found this email:
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/utopia-list/2004-July/msg00031.html

Or http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dbus/2005-February/002170.html
or one of the few others that are there.

And the answer to all of those seems to be at HAL.

Wichert.

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Re: 2.6: drivers/input/power.c is never built

2005-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously James Simmons wrote:
 DBUS isthe future. I just wish they had  programing howto for the average 
 joe to write apps for it.

The docs are good enough in my experience, there just seems to be a gap
between the docs and the code. Strangely enough in this case there are
documented API bits that are not implemented instead of the other way
around as usual.

Wichert.

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Re: negative diskspace usage

2005-01-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Andries Brouwer wrote:
> It is an interesting situation, but probably there is not enough
> information to find out what happened. On the other hand, if your
> dumpe2fs output is not too big you might as well post it.

It is indeed not too big, so here it is:

Filesystem volume name:   
Last mounted on:  
Filesystem UUID:  33476a1a-cc34-4668-a4a3-fd0efaa01818
Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53
Filesystem revision #:1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features:  has_journal filetype needs_recovery sparse_super
Default mount options:(none)
Filesystem state: clean
Errors behavior:  Continue
Filesystem OS type:   Linux
Inode count:  132480
Block count:  264960
Reserved block count: 13248
Free blocks:  268779
Free inodes:  129353
First block:  0
Block size:   4096
Fragment size:4096
Blocks per group: 32768
Fragments per group:  32768
Inodes per group: 14720
Inode blocks per group:   460
Last mount time:  Wed Jan 19 16:38:17 2005
Last write time:  Wed Jan 19 16:38:17 2005
Mount count:  8
Maximum mount count:  20
Last checked: Wed Aug 25 16:32:54 2004
Check interval:   15552000 (6 months)
Next check after: Mon Feb 21 15:32:54 2005
Reserved blocks uid:  0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid:  0 (group root)
First inode:  11
Inode size:   128
Journal inode:8
Journal backup:   inode blocks


Group 0: (Blocks 0-32767)
  Primary superblock at 0, Group descriptors at 1-1
  Block bitmap at 464 (+464), Inode bitmap at 465 (+465)
  Inode table at 4-463 (+4)
  24101 free blocks, 14708 free inodes, 1 directories
  Free blocks: 3, 8667-20480, 20482-32767
  Free inodes: 11, 13, 15-14720
Group 1: (Blocks 32768-65535)
  Backup superblock at 32768, Group descriptors at 32769-32769
  Block bitmap at 33264 (+496), Inode bitmap at 33265 (+497)
  Inode table at 32772-33231 (+4)
  32303 free blocks, 14719 free inodes, 1 directories
  Free blocks: 32770-32771, 33232-33263, 33266-55295, 55297-65535
  Free inodes: 14722-29440
Group 2: (Blocks 65536-98303)
  Block bitmap at 66064 (+528), Inode bitmap at 66065 (+529)
  Inode table at 65540-65999 (+4)
  34308 free blocks, 14720 free inodes, 0 directories
  Free blocks: 65536-65539, 66000-66063, 66066-98303
  Free inodes: 29441-44160
Group 3: (Blocks 98304-131071)
  Backup superblock at 98304, Group descriptors at 98305-98305
  Block bitmap at 98864 (+560), Inode bitmap at 98865 (+561)
  Inode table at 98308-98767 (+4)
  32303 free blocks, 14718 free inodes, 1 directories
  Free blocks: 98306-98307, 98768-98863, 98866-129023, 129025-131071
  Free inodes: 44162-44163, 44165-58880
Group 4: (Blocks 131072-163839)
  Block bitmap at 131664 (+592), Inode bitmap at 131665 (+593)
  Inode table at 131076-131535 (+4)
  32305 free blocks, 14719 free inodes, 1 directories
  Free blocks: 131073-131075, 131536-131663, 131666-163839
  Free inodes: 58882-73600
Group 5: (Blocks 163840-196607)
  Backup superblock at 163840, Group descriptors at 163841-163841
  Block bitmap at 164464 (+624), Inode bitmap at 164465 (+625)
  Inode table at 163844-164303 (+4)
  32304 free blocks, 14720 free inodes, 0 directories
  Free blocks: 163842-163843, 164304-164463, 164466-196607
  Free inodes: 73601-88320
Group 6: (Blocks 196608-229375)
  Block bitmap at 197264 (+656), Inode bitmap at 197265 (+657)
  Inode table at 196612-197071 (+4)
  45805 free blocks, 14720 free inodes, 0 directories
  Free blocks: 196608-196611, 197072-197263, 197266-229375
  Free inodes: 88321-103040
Group 7: (Blocks 229376-262143)
  Backup superblock at 229376, Group descriptors at 229377-229377
  Block bitmap at 230064 (+688), Inode bitmap at 230065 (+689)
  Inode table at 229380-229839 (+4)
  32304 free blocks, 14720 free inodes, 0 directories
  Free blocks: 229378-229379, 229840-230063, 230066-262143
  Free inodes: 103041-117760
Group 8: (Blocks 262144-264959)
  Block bitmap at 262864 (+720), Inode bitmap at 262865 (+721)
  Inode table at 262148-262607 (+4)
  14741 free blocks, 14720 free inodes, 0 directories
  Free blocks: 262144-262147, 262608-262863, 262866-264959
  Free inodes: 117761-132480
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Re: negative diskspace usage

2005-01-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Andries Brouwer wrote:
 It is an interesting situation, but probably there is not enough
 information to find out what happened. On the other hand, if your
 dumpe2fs output is not too big you might as well post it.

It is indeed not too big, so here it is:

Filesystem volume name:   none
Last mounted on:  not available
Filesystem UUID:  33476a1a-cc34-4668-a4a3-fd0efaa01818
Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53
Filesystem revision #:1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features:  has_journal filetype needs_recovery sparse_super
Default mount options:(none)
Filesystem state: clean
Errors behavior:  Continue
Filesystem OS type:   Linux
Inode count:  132480
Block count:  264960
Reserved block count: 13248
Free blocks:  268779
Free inodes:  129353
First block:  0
Block size:   4096
Fragment size:4096
Blocks per group: 32768
Fragments per group:  32768
Inodes per group: 14720
Inode blocks per group:   460
Last mount time:  Wed Jan 19 16:38:17 2005
Last write time:  Wed Jan 19 16:38:17 2005
Mount count:  8
Maximum mount count:  20
Last checked: Wed Aug 25 16:32:54 2004
Check interval:   15552000 (6 months)
Next check after: Mon Feb 21 15:32:54 2005
Reserved blocks uid:  0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid:  0 (group root)
First inode:  11
Inode size:   128
Journal inode:8
Journal backup:   inode blocks


Group 0: (Blocks 0-32767)
  Primary superblock at 0, Group descriptors at 1-1
  Block bitmap at 464 (+464), Inode bitmap at 465 (+465)
  Inode table at 4-463 (+4)
  24101 free blocks, 14708 free inodes, 1 directories
  Free blocks: 3, 8667-20480, 20482-32767
  Free inodes: 11, 13, 15-14720
Group 1: (Blocks 32768-65535)
  Backup superblock at 32768, Group descriptors at 32769-32769
  Block bitmap at 33264 (+496), Inode bitmap at 33265 (+497)
  Inode table at 32772-33231 (+4)
  32303 free blocks, 14719 free inodes, 1 directories
  Free blocks: 32770-32771, 33232-33263, 33266-55295, 55297-65535
  Free inodes: 14722-29440
Group 2: (Blocks 65536-98303)
  Block bitmap at 66064 (+528), Inode bitmap at 66065 (+529)
  Inode table at 65540-65999 (+4)
  34308 free blocks, 14720 free inodes, 0 directories
  Free blocks: 65536-65539, 66000-66063, 66066-98303
  Free inodes: 29441-44160
Group 3: (Blocks 98304-131071)
  Backup superblock at 98304, Group descriptors at 98305-98305
  Block bitmap at 98864 (+560), Inode bitmap at 98865 (+561)
  Inode table at 98308-98767 (+4)
  32303 free blocks, 14718 free inodes, 1 directories
  Free blocks: 98306-98307, 98768-98863, 98866-129023, 129025-131071
  Free inodes: 44162-44163, 44165-58880
Group 4: (Blocks 131072-163839)
  Block bitmap at 131664 (+592), Inode bitmap at 131665 (+593)
  Inode table at 131076-131535 (+4)
  32305 free blocks, 14719 free inodes, 1 directories
  Free blocks: 131073-131075, 131536-131663, 131666-163839
  Free inodes: 58882-73600
Group 5: (Blocks 163840-196607)
  Backup superblock at 163840, Group descriptors at 163841-163841
  Block bitmap at 164464 (+624), Inode bitmap at 164465 (+625)
  Inode table at 163844-164303 (+4)
  32304 free blocks, 14720 free inodes, 0 directories
  Free blocks: 163842-163843, 164304-164463, 164466-196607
  Free inodes: 73601-88320
Group 6: (Blocks 196608-229375)
  Block bitmap at 197264 (+656), Inode bitmap at 197265 (+657)
  Inode table at 196612-197071 (+4)
  45805 free blocks, 14720 free inodes, 0 directories
  Free blocks: 196608-196611, 197072-197263, 197266-229375
  Free inodes: 88321-103040
Group 7: (Blocks 229376-262143)
  Backup superblock at 229376, Group descriptors at 229377-229377
  Block bitmap at 230064 (+688), Inode bitmap at 230065 (+689)
  Inode table at 229380-229839 (+4)
  32304 free blocks, 14720 free inodes, 0 directories
  Free blocks: 229378-229379, 229840-230063, 230066-262143
  Free inodes: 103041-117760
Group 8: (Blocks 262144-264959)
  Block bitmap at 262864 (+720), Inode bitmap at 262865 (+721)
  Inode table at 262148-262607 (+4)
  14741 free blocks, 14720 free inodes, 0 directories
  Free blocks: 262144-262147, 262608-262863, 262866-264959
  Free inodes: 117761-132480
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Re: negative diskspace usage

2005-01-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Andries Brouwer wrote:
> I assume this was produced by statfs or statfs64 or so.

statfs64 indeed.

> Are you still able to examine the situation?

No, but I do have some more information. A e2fsck run on that filesystem
was just as interesting:

/dev/md4: clean, 16/132480 files, -15514/264960 blocks

Forcing an e2fsck revelated a few groups with incorrect block counts:

Free blocks count wrong for group #2 (34308, counted=32306).
Free blocks count wrong for group #6 (45805, counted=32306).
Free blocks count wrong for group #8 (14741, counted=2354).
Free blocks count wrong (280474, counted=252586).

After fixing those everything returned to normal. I did run dumpe2fs
on the filesystem, if that is interesting I can retrieve and post that.

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Re: negative diskspace usage

2005-01-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Andries Brouwer wrote:
 I assume this was produced by statfs or statfs64 or so.

statfs64 indeed.

 Are you still able to examine the situation?

No, but I do have some more information. A e2fsck run on that filesystem
was just as interesting:

/dev/md4: clean, 16/132480 files, -15514/264960 blocks

Forcing an e2fsck revelated a few groups with incorrect block counts:

Free blocks count wrong for group #2 (34308, counted=32306).
Free blocks count wrong for group #6 (45805, counted=32306).
Free blocks count wrong for group #8 (14741, counted=2354).
Free blocks count wrong (280474, counted=252586).

After fixing those everything returned to normal. I did run dumpe2fs
on the filesystem, if that is interesting I can retrieve and post that.

Wichert.

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Re: negative diskspace usage

2005-01-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> 
> > After cleaning up a bit df suddenly showed interesting results:
> > 
> > FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/md4 1019M  -64Z  1.1G 101% /tmp
> > 
> > Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/md4   1043168 -73786976294838127736   1068904 101% /tmp
> 
> It looks like Windows 95's FDISK
> command created the partitions.

There is no way you can see that from the output I gave, and it is also
incorrect.

> The partition boundaries still remain where Windows 95 put them, and
> you have overlapping partitions.

fdisk does not create overlapping partitions.

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Re: negative diskspace usage

2005-01-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 
  After cleaning up a bit df suddenly showed interesting results:
  
  FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
  /dev/md4 1019M  -64Z  1.1G 101% /tmp
  
  Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
  /dev/md4   1043168 -73786976294838127736   1068904 101% /tmp
 
 It looks like Windows 95's FDISK
 command created the partitions.

There is no way you can see that from the output I gave, and it is also
incorrect.

 The partition boundaries still remain where Windows 95 put them, and
 you have overlapping partitions.

fdisk does not create overlapping partitions.

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negative diskspace usage

2005-01-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
After cleaning up a bit df suddenly showed interesting results:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md4 1019M  -64Z  1.1G 101% /tmp

Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md4   1043168 -73786976294838127736   1068904 101% /tmp

This is on a ext3 filesystem on a 2.6.10-ac10 kernel.

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negative diskspace usage

2005-01-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
After cleaning up a bit df suddenly showed interesting results:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md4 1019M  -64Z  1.1G 101% /tmp

Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md4   1043168 -73786976294838127736   1068904 101% /tmp

This is on a ext3 filesystem on a 2.6.10-ac10 kernel.

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Re: Missing help entries in 2.4.6pre5

2001-06-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric S. Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You're a bit irritated.  That's good.  I *want* people who don't write
>help entries for their configuration symbols to be a bit irritated.
>That way, they might get around to actually doing what they ought to.

You mean you actually want people to start ignoring you?

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Re: Missing help entries in 2.4.6pre5

2001-06-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Eric S. Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're a bit irritated.  That's good.  I *want* people who don't write
help entries for their configuration symbols to be a bit irritated.
That way, they might get around to actually doing what they ought to.

You mean you actually want people to start ignoring you?

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike A. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>For the record, the kgcc "mess" you speak of was used by
>Conectiva, and I believe also by debian

Debian never had that mess.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the record, the kgcc mess you speak of was used by
Conectiva, and I believe also by debian

Debian never had that mess.

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Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman

Previously Heinz J. Mauelshagen wrote:
> Linux LVM is a Sistina GPL project and there's no danger at all
> that we want to change its GPL nature!

I think the general sentiment is that LVM is a Linux project,
currently being managed by Sistina. 

Also, since you have merged patches from other you no longer can
change the license since Sistina is not the sole copyright holder.

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Re: Children first in fork

2001-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article <9bn90l$anp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Not that I've tested it myself.

I did a few months ago, it didn't work.

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Re: Children first in fork

2001-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article 9bn90l$anp$[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not that I've tested it myself.

I did a few months ago, it didn't work.

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Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman

Previously Heinz J. Mauelshagen wrote:
 Linux LVM is a Sistina GPL project and there's no danger at all
 that we want to change its GPL nature!

I think the general sentiment is that LVM is a Linux project,
currently being managed by Sistina. 

Also, since you have merged patches from other you no longer can
change the license since Sistina is not the sole copyright holder.

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Re: syslog insmod please!

2001-04-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mr. James W. Laferriere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Not the problem being discussed ,  This is a user now root &
>   having gained root is now attempting to from the command line
>   to load a module .  How do we get this event recorded ?

Recent versions of modutils (2.4.3 and later iirc) log that info
in /var/log/ksymoops

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Re: syslog insmod please!

2001-04-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mr. James W. Laferriere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Not the problem being discussed ,  This is a user now root 
   having gained root is now attempting to from the command line
   to load a module .  How do we get this event recorded ?

Recent versions of modutils (2.4.3 and later iirc) log that info
in /var/log/ksymoops

Wichert.


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Re: Larger dev_t

2001-03-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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>a large name space allows one to omit checking what part can be
>reused - reuse is unnecessary.

You are just delaying the problem then, at some point your uptime will
be large enough that you have run through all 64bit pids for example.

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Re: Larger dev_t

2001-03-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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a large name space allows one to omit checking what part can be
reused - reuse is unnecessary.

You are just delaying the problem then, at some point your uptime will
be large enough that you have run through all 64bit pids for example.

Wichert.


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Re: dropcopyright script

2001-02-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rick Hohensee  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
>## drop copyright notices to the bottoms of C files in current dir and
># subs. 

Why would anyone want to do this?

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Re: dropcopyright script

2001-02-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Rick Hohensee  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
## drop copyright notices to the bottoms of C files in current dir and
# subs. 

Why would anyone want to do this?

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Re: the remount problem [2.4.0] kind of solved [patch]

2001-01-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman

Previously Goswin Brederlow wrote:
> Maybe the kernel coud swap in the deleted libraries and keep it in
> memory or real swap from then on instead of blocking the fs.

No, you have no idea how large the file might grow and you need to
keep that data somewhere.

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Re: the remount problem [2.4.0] kind of solved [patch]

2001-01-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman

Previously Goswin Brederlow wrote:
 Maybe the kernel coud swap in the deleted libraries and keep it in
 memory or real swap from then on instead of blocking the fs.

No, you have no idea how large the file might grow and you need to
keep that data somewhere.

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Erik Mouw  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Install the "alien" package on your machine and you will be able to
>convert between rpm and deb.

Bad plan, considering packages rely on some infrastructure that
is not in the rpm (update-modules). I tend to be pretty quick
with making and uploading the deb anyway.

Having said that, I won't package 2.4.0 and will wait for 2.4.1
instead.

Wichert.

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Re: Announce: modutils 2.4.0 is available

2001-01-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Erik Mouw  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Install the "alien" package on your machine and you will be able to
convert between rpm and deb.

Bad plan, considering packages rely on some infrastructure that
is not in the rpm (update-modules). I tend to be pretty quick
with making and uploading the deb anyway.

Having said that, I won't package 2.4.0 and will wait for 2.4.1
instead.

Wichert.

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Re: Bug in large files ext2 in 2.4.0-test11 ?

2000-11-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ben Collins  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>work in our transition mechanisms. IOW, we don't have to just worry about
>1 architecture and 1 distribution, we have to make sure upgrades work,
>make sure things don't break, and ensure backward compatibility is retained
>for 5 architectures that have released already (new archs don't need a
>transisition obviously).

Euhm, we released 6 architectures (arm, alpha, i386, m68k, powerpc and sparc)

Wichert.

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