Re: [OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread J Sloan

Peter Rival wrote:

> "David S. Miller" wrote:
>
> > J Sloan writes:
> >  > Microsoft finally managed to get a better result using
> >  > an all-out, "bet the farm", "benchmark buster" setup
> >  > with a special web cache in front of iis.
> >
> > I haven't heard anyone talk about the fact that their 8-cpu numbers
> > got disqualified and aren't even mentioned on the SPEC site on the
> > main tables anymore.
> >
>
> Really?  I just checked and it's still there from what I see.  We're talking
> about the Dell 8450/700 w/ IIS & SWC 3.0 result, right?  I'm hoping that
> they're deemed NC, but I don't see it yet...
>

IIRC they did have some results disqualified, but
them these latest results have been submitted
since then - perhaps they will be disqualified as
well, once the facts come to light...

cu

jjs

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Re: [OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread Peter Rival

"David S. Miller" wrote:

> Peter Rival writes:
>  > Really?  I just checked and it's still there from what I see.  We're talking
>  > about the Dell 8450/700 w/ IIS & SWC 3.0 result, right?  I'm hoping that
>  > they're deemed NC, but I don't see it yet...
>
> Sorry, they are there in the table, but marked as NC.
>
> Maybe you need to hit reload in your browser :-)
>

Yup, one of them is marked as NC.  But the other one is still there (and I hit
reload and even shift-reload).  So either you're missing the second one or
something is not behaving nicely with our web proxies here.  While I'd probably be
more inclined to believe the latter... ;)

 - Pete

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Re: [OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread David S. Miller


Peter Rival writes:
 > Really?  I just checked and it's still there from what I see.  We're talking
 > about the Dell 8450/700 w/ IIS & SWC 3.0 result, right?  I'm hoping that
 > they're deemed NC, but I don't see it yet...

Sorry, they are there in the table, but marked as NC.

Maybe you need to hit reload in your browser :-)

Later,
David S. Miller
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Re: [OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread Peter Rival

"David S. Miller" wrote:

> J Sloan writes:
>  > Microsoft finally managed to get a better result using
>  > an all-out, "bet the farm", "benchmark buster" setup
>  > with a special web cache in front of iis.
>
> I haven't heard anyone talk about the fact that their 8-cpu numbers
> got disqualified and aren't even mentioned on the SPEC site on the
> main tables anymore.
>

Really?  I just checked and it's still there from what I see.  We're talking
about the Dell 8450/700 w/ IIS & SWC 3.0 result, right?  I'm hoping that
they're deemed NC, but I don't see it yet...

 - Pete

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Re: [OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread David S. Miller


J Sloan writes:
 > Microsoft finally managed to get a better result using
 > an all-out, "bet the farm", "benchmark buster" setup
 > with a special web cache in front of iis.

I haven't heard anyone talk about the fact that their 8-cpu numbers
got disqualified and aren't even mentioned on the SPEC site on the
main tables anymore.

Later,
David S. Miller
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[OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread J Sloan

Ronald Bultje wrote:

> On 18 May 2001 10:12:34 +0200, reiser.angus wrote:
> > > However, taking a closer look, it turns out, that the above statement
> > > holds true only for 1 and 2 processor machines. Scalability already
> > > suffers at 4 processors, and at 8 processors, TUX 2.0 (7500) gets beaten
> > > by IIS 5.0 (8001), and these were measured on the same kind of box!
> > not really the same box
> > look at the disk subsystem
> > 7 x 9GB 10KRPM Drives and 1 x 18GB 15KRPM (html+log & os) for Win2000
> > 5 x 9GB 10KRPM Drives (html+log+os) for TUX 2.0
> >
> > this is sufficient for a such difference
>
> I read an article about TUX in the dutch C'T a few months ago (nov/dec
> 2000, I think) - the real difference (according to the article) was the
> 2.2.x kernel used in TUX. Look at the stats of the website, they used
> Redhat 7.0 as base, with kernel 2.2.16. In the C'T, they also used a
> 2.4-test kernel for TUX, and this one didn't have these "scalibility
> problems". The problem seemed to be SMP problems with systems with more
> than two cpus in the 2.2.x-based kernel series. 2.4.x kernels didn't
> seem to have this problem.

All Tux webservers have run on a 2.4 or 2.4-pre kernel.

> And as far as I know, TUX with 2.4.x kernel was faster than win2k on all
> SMP-combinations.

Tux held the record for most of the time since last
summer, when Linux vaulted into 1st place

Microsoft finally managed to get a better result using
an all-out, "bet the farm", "benchmark buster" setup
with a special web cache in front of iis.

However, they haven't heard the last of Linux either.

cu

jjs

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