Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814 (resend)
On Friday 31 August 2007, Daniel Exner wrote: > Hi! > > Please CC me, as I'm currently not subscribed to this list, thx. applied but please inline patches instead of attaching them next time (makes it much easier to review/apply them) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814 (resend)
On Friday 31 August 2007, Daniel Exner wrote: Hi! Please CC me, as I'm currently not subscribed to this list, thx. applied but please inline patches instead of attaching them next time (makes it much easier to review/apply them) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
[PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814 (resend)
Hi! Please CC me, as I'm currently not subscribed to this list, thx. Another try :) -- Greetings Daniel Exner Add Toshiba S1800-814 to whitelist for both pata_ali and alim15x3, as it is correctly detected as 40-wire connected but this cable is short enough to still use transfer modes higher than UDMA33. Signed-off-by: Daniel Exner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- linux-2.6.22.old/drivers/ata/pata_ali.c 2007-08-29 23:27:53.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22/drivers/ata/pata_ali.c 2007-08-29 23:14:37.0 +0200 @@ -48,6 +48,13 @@ DMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VERSION, "OmniBook N32N-736"), }, }, + { + .ident = "Toshiba Satelite S1800-814", + .matches = { + DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "TOSHIBA"), + DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "S1800-814"), + }, + }, { } }; --- linux-2.6.22.old/drivers/ide/pci/alim15x3.c 2007-08-29 22:17:14.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22/drivers/ide/pci/alim15x3.c 2007-08-29 22:56:27.0 +0200 @@ -596,6 +596,13 @@ DMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VERSION, "OmniBook N32N-736"), }, }, + { + .ident = "Toshiba Satellite S1800-814", + .matches = { + DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "TOSHIBA"), + DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "S1800-814"), + }, + }, { } };
[PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814 (resend)
Hi! Please CC me, as I'm currently not subscribed to this list, thx. Another try :) -- Greetings Daniel Exner Add Toshiba S1800-814 to whitelist for both pata_ali and alim15x3, as it is correctly detected as 40-wire connected but this cable is short enough to still use transfer modes higher than UDMA33. Signed-off-by: Daniel Exner [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- linux-2.6.22.old/drivers/ata/pata_ali.c 2007-08-29 23:27:53.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22/drivers/ata/pata_ali.c 2007-08-29 23:14:37.0 +0200 @@ -48,6 +48,13 @@ DMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VERSION, OmniBook N32N-736), }, }, + { + .ident = Toshiba Satelite S1800-814, + .matches = { + DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, TOSHIBA), + DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, S1800-814), + }, + }, { } }; --- linux-2.6.22.old/drivers/ide/pci/alim15x3.c 2007-08-29 22:17:14.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22/drivers/ide/pci/alim15x3.c 2007-08-29 22:56:27.0 +0200 @@ -596,6 +596,13 @@ DMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VERSION, OmniBook N32N-736), }, }, + { + .ident = Toshiba Satellite S1800-814, + .matches = { + DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, TOSHIBA), + DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, S1800-814), + }, + }, { } };
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
> What's the max length of a 40wire cable to sustain 80wire cable > characteristics? Depends on the materials and connector. The required electrical characteristics for any cable are in the spec, and if you want to know more you'll need to know a lot more than I do about transmission line theory! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
On Aug 30 2007 15:47, Lennart Sorensen wrote: >On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:38:23PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: >> Hard to tell, since some (most?) laptops have sort of a backplane and there >> might be no real cable you could see because it's all mainboard wire paths >> already. > >Makes you wonder why the mainboard doesn't just pretend to be an 80 wire >cable if that is what it is compatible with. Seems like a design flaw >in the laptop to not do so. Or lazyness on behalf the vendor. You know, some even don't fix their DSDT... Jan -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:38:23PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > Hard to tell, since some (most?) laptops have sort of a backplane and there > might be no real cable you could see because it's all mainboard wire paths > already. Makes you wonder why the mainboard doesn't just pretend to be an 80 wire cable if that is what it is compatible with. Seems like a design flaw in the laptop to not do so. -- Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
On Aug 30 2007 16:54, Al Boldi wrote: > >What's the max length of a 40wire cable to sustain 80wire cable >characteristics? Hard to tell, since some (most?) laptops have sort of a backplane and there might be no real cable you could see because it's all mainboard wire paths already. Jan -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
Al Boldi wrote: Alan Cox wrote: Wow! I have been running 80wire cable detection override on 40wire cables for quite some time without any problem, but I never thought it to be legal if the 40wire cable length is short enough. Yes. How short does it have to be, and can't we have a kernel bootparm to override the cable detection? For most users the goal should be to automate behaviour. It should just work. What's the max length of a 40wire cable to sustain 80wire cable characteristics? This is normally only the case on a laptop, where the cable is essentially just a tiny stub between the motherboard and the drive. I suspect this is something that the system manufacturer has to validate works properly, more than any hard and fast limit. For a normal desktop PC, it would be far better to just use an 80-wire cable. -- Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada To email, remove "nospam" from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
Alan Cox wrote: > > Wow! I have been running 80wire cable detection override on 40wire > > cables for quite some time without any problem, but I never thought it > > to be legal if the 40wire cable length is short enough. > > Yes. > > > How short does it have to be, and can't we have a kernel bootparm to > > override the cable detection? > > For most users the goal should be to automate behaviour. It should just > work. What's the max length of a 40wire cable to sustain 80wire cable characteristics? Thanks! -- Al - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
> Wow! I have been running 80wire cable detection override on 40wire cables > for quite some time without any problem, but I never thought it to be legal > if the 40wire cable length is short enough. Yes. > How short does it have to be, and can't we have a kernel bootparm to override > the cable detection? For most users the goal should be to automate behaviour. It should just work. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
Wow! I have been running 80wire cable detection override on 40wire cables for quite some time without any problem, but I never thought it to be legal if the 40wire cable length is short enough. Yes. How short does it have to be, and can't we have a kernel bootparm to override the cable detection? For most users the goal should be to automate behaviour. It should just work. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
Alan Cox wrote: Wow! I have been running 80wire cable detection override on 40wire cables for quite some time without any problem, but I never thought it to be legal if the 40wire cable length is short enough. Yes. How short does it have to be, and can't we have a kernel bootparm to override the cable detection? For most users the goal should be to automate behaviour. It should just work. What's the max length of a 40wire cable to sustain 80wire cable characteristics? Thanks! -- Al - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
Al Boldi wrote: Alan Cox wrote: Wow! I have been running 80wire cable detection override on 40wire cables for quite some time without any problem, but I never thought it to be legal if the 40wire cable length is short enough. Yes. How short does it have to be, and can't we have a kernel bootparm to override the cable detection? For most users the goal should be to automate behaviour. It should just work. What's the max length of a 40wire cable to sustain 80wire cable characteristics? This is normally only the case on a laptop, where the cable is essentially just a tiny stub between the motherboard and the drive. I suspect this is something that the system manufacturer has to validate works properly, more than any hard and fast limit. For a normal desktop PC, it would be far better to just use an 80-wire cable. -- Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada To email, remove nospam from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
On Aug 30 2007 16:54, Al Boldi wrote: What's the max length of a 40wire cable to sustain 80wire cable characteristics? Hard to tell, since some (most?) laptops have sort of a backplane and there might be no real cable you could see because it's all mainboard wire paths already. Jan -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:38:23PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: Hard to tell, since some (most?) laptops have sort of a backplane and there might be no real cable you could see because it's all mainboard wire paths already. Makes you wonder why the mainboard doesn't just pretend to be an 80 wire cable if that is what it is compatible with. Seems like a design flaw in the laptop to not do so. -- Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
On Aug 30 2007 15:47, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 09:38:23PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: Hard to tell, since some (most?) laptops have sort of a backplane and there might be no real cable you could see because it's all mainboard wire paths already. Makes you wonder why the mainboard doesn't just pretend to be an 80 wire cable if that is what it is compatible with. Seems like a design flaw in the laptop to not do so. Or lazyness on behalf the vendor. You know, some even don't fix their DSDT... Jan -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
What's the max length of a 40wire cable to sustain 80wire cable characteristics? Depends on the materials and connector. The required electrical characteristics for any cable are in the spec, and if you want to know more you'll need to know a lot more than I do about transmission line theory! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
Alan Cox wrote: > Daniel Exner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Attached patch will add above mentioned Laptop Model to whitelist for both >> pata_ali and alim15x3, as it is correctly detected as 40-wire connected >> but this cable is short enough to still do transfers higher than UDMA33. > > Looks good to me - does need a Signed-off-by: line however Wow! I have been running 80wire cable detection override on 40wire cables for quite some time without any problem, but I never thought it to be legal if the 40wire cable length is short enough. How short does it have to be, and can't we have a kernel bootparm to override the cable detection? Thanks! -- Al - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:41:13 +0200 Daniel Exner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > Please CC me, as I'm currently not subscribed to this list, thx. > > Attached patch will add above mentioned Laptop Model to whitelist for both > pata_ali and alim15x3, as it is correctly detected as 40-wire connected but > this cable is short enough to still do transfers higher than UDMA33. > Don't know if this is also true for other S1800 Laptops cause I own only one. Looks good to me - does need a Signed-off-by: line however - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
[PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
Hi! Please CC me, as I'm currently not subscribed to this list, thx. Attached patch will add above mentioned Laptop Model to whitelist for both pata_ali and alim15x3, as it is correctly detected as 40-wire connected but this cable is short enough to still do transfers higher than UDMA33. Don't know if this is also true for other S1800 Laptops cause I own only one. I hope I did this correctly as this is my first Patch Mail to LKML :) -- Greetings Daniel Exner --- linux-2.6.22.old/drivers/ata/pata_ali.c 2007-08-29 23:27:53.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22/drivers/ata/pata_ali.c 2007-08-29 23:14:37.0 +0200 @@ -48,6 +48,13 @@ DMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VERSION, "OmniBook N32N-736"), }, }, + { + .ident = "Toshiba Satelite S1800-814", + .matches = { + DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "TOSHIBA"), + DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "S1800-814"), + }, + }, { } }; --- linux-2.6.22.old/drivers/ide/pci/alim15x3.c 2007-08-29 22:17:14.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22/drivers/ide/pci/alim15x3.c 2007-08-29 22:56:27.0 +0200 @@ -596,6 +596,13 @@ DMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VERSION, "OmniBook N32N-736"), }, }, + { + .ident = "Toshiba Satellite S1800-814", + .matches = { + DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "TOSHIBA"), + DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "S1800-814"), + }, + }, { } };
[PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
Hi! Please CC me, as I'm currently not subscribed to this list, thx. Attached patch will add above mentioned Laptop Model to whitelist for both pata_ali and alim15x3, as it is correctly detected as 40-wire connected but this cable is short enough to still do transfers higher than UDMA33. Don't know if this is also true for other S1800 Laptops cause I own only one. I hope I did this correctly as this is my first Patch Mail to LKML :) -- Greetings Daniel Exner --- linux-2.6.22.old/drivers/ata/pata_ali.c 2007-08-29 23:27:53.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22/drivers/ata/pata_ali.c 2007-08-29 23:14:37.0 +0200 @@ -48,6 +48,13 @@ DMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VERSION, OmniBook N32N-736), }, }, + { + .ident = Toshiba Satelite S1800-814, + .matches = { + DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, TOSHIBA), + DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, S1800-814), + }, + }, { } }; --- linux-2.6.22.old/drivers/ide/pci/alim15x3.c 2007-08-29 22:17:14.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22/drivers/ide/pci/alim15x3.c 2007-08-29 22:56:27.0 +0200 @@ -596,6 +596,13 @@ DMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VERSION, OmniBook N32N-736), }, }, + { + .ident = Toshiba Satellite S1800-814, + .matches = { + DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, TOSHIBA), + DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, S1800-814), + }, + }, { } };
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:41:13 +0200 Daniel Exner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Please CC me, as I'm currently not subscribed to this list, thx. Attached patch will add above mentioned Laptop Model to whitelist for both pata_ali and alim15x3, as it is correctly detected as 40-wire connected but this cable is short enough to still do transfers higher than UDMA33. Don't know if this is also true for other S1800 Laptops cause I own only one. Looks good to me - does need a Signed-off-by: line however - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Override 80-wire cable detection for Toshiba S1800-814
Alan Cox wrote: Daniel Exner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached patch will add above mentioned Laptop Model to whitelist for both pata_ali and alim15x3, as it is correctly detected as 40-wire connected but this cable is short enough to still do transfers higher than UDMA33. Looks good to me - does need a Signed-off-by: line however Wow! I have been running 80wire cable detection override on 40wire cables for quite some time without any problem, but I never thought it to be legal if the 40wire cable length is short enough. How short does it have to be, and can't we have a kernel bootparm to override the cable detection? Thanks! -- Al - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/