Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 02:31:31AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] > > It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data > > structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. > > I know. The problem is that the BIOS is generally not stateless and it > remebers stuff. In particular, there are a few handshakes done during the > ACPI > initialization and they cannot be repeated without resetting the BIOS to the > initial state, which basically means a reboot. Agreed that stateless BIOS in general would be a problem with kexec. We already face that issue with UEFI where we can't call set virtual address map again in second kernel and kexec did not work with UEFI for so many years. Thanks to Dave, Borislav and Matt that it will soon be working and we will be passing mappings to second kernel. So even in case of ACPI, if there are things which can't be re-initiliazed in second kernel, we will have to figure that out and selectively fix it by passing that info to second kernel and not ask second kernel to reinitialize it, instead of disabling ACPI completely. > > That is kind of orthogonal to the problem at hand, though. Agreed. Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On 01/09/2014 10:57 PM, Yasuaki Ishimatsu wrote: > (2014/01/10 6:44), Vivek Goyal wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:34:16PM -0500, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] >> The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this >> boot >> ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) > > Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. >> This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, >> no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by >> default >> as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. > > This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* > command > line parameters to address this. > There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to make sure no memory is hot added in the system. So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the fly. >>> >>> I'm ok this option. But note, even if this option is specified, SH, >>> Power and S390 still >>> be able to use memory hotplug because their firmware are totally >>> different from ACPI. >>> >>> Maybe, adding acpi prefix provides good clarification. >> > >> Makes sense. Something like "acpi_no_memhotplug" or "acpi_disable_memhotplug" >> or something else. > > I like Prarit's patch and the boot option name. If it is updated, > I'll test it. I'm going with "acpi_no_memhotplug" and I'm testing across several systems right now. Will send out a new patch shortly. P. > > Thanks, > Yasuaki Ishimatsu > >> >> Thanks >> Vivek >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in >> the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> > > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On 01/09/2014 10:57 PM, Yasuaki Ishimatsu wrote: (2014/01/10 6:44), Vivek Goyal wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:34:16PM -0500, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal vgo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by default as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* command line parameters to address this. There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to make sure no memory is hot added in the system. So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the fly. I'm ok this option. But note, even if this option is specified, SH, Power and S390 still be able to use memory hotplug because their firmware are totally different from ACPI. Maybe, adding acpi prefix provides good clarification. Makes sense. Something like acpi_no_memhotplug or acpi_disable_memhotplug or something else. I like Prarit's patch and the boot option name. If it is updated, I'll test it. I'm going with acpi_no_memhotplug and I'm testing across several systems right now. Will send out a new patch shortly. P. Thanks, Yasuaki Ishimatsu Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-acpi in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 02:31:31AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. I know. The problem is that the BIOS is generally not stateless and it remebers stuff. In particular, there are a few handshakes done during the ACPI initialization and they cannot be repeated without resetting the BIOS to the initial state, which basically means a reboot. Agreed that stateless BIOS in general would be a problem with kexec. We already face that issue with UEFI where we can't call set virtual address map again in second kernel and kexec did not work with UEFI for so many years. Thanks to Dave, Borislav and Matt that it will soon be working and we will be passing mappings to second kernel. So even in case of ACPI, if there are things which can't be re-initiliazed in second kernel, we will have to figure that out and selectively fix it by passing that info to second kernel and not ask second kernel to reinitialize it, instead of disabling ACPI completely. That is kind of orthogonal to the problem at hand, though. Agreed. Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
(2014/01/10 6:44), Vivek Goyal wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:34:16PM -0500, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by default as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* command line parameters to address this. There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to make sure no memory is hot added in the system. So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the fly. I'm ok this option. But note, even if this option is specified, SH, Power and S390 still be able to use memory hotplug because their firmware are totally different from ACPI. Maybe, adding acpi prefix provides good clarification. Makes sense. Something like "acpi_no_memhotplug" or "acpi_disable_memhotplug" or something else. I like Prarit's patch and the boot option name. If it is updated, I'll test it. Thanks, Yasuaki Ishimatsu Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Thursday, January 09, 2014 04:44:25 PM Vivek Goyal wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:34:16PM -0500, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > > > [..] > > >> > The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this > > >> > boot > > >> > ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) > > >> > > >> Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. > > > > > > [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] > > > > > > It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data > > > structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. > > > > > >> > This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, > > >> > no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by > > >> > default > > >> > as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. > > >> > > >> This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* > > >> command > > >> line parameters to address this. > > >> > > > > > > There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general > > > one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled > > > in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. > > > > > > Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to > > > make sure no memory is hot added in the system. > > > > > > So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have > > > a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the > > > fly. > > > > I'm ok this option. But note, even if this option is specified, SH, > > Power and S390 still > > be able to use memory hotplug because their firmware are totally > > different from ACPI. > > > > Maybe, adding acpi prefix provides good clarification. > > Makes sense. Something like "acpi_no_memhotplug" or "acpi_disable_memhotplug" > or something else. acpi_no_memhotplug would make more sense. That said if you make memmap=exactmap disable the memhotplug driver, the existing kexec/kdump users won't need to be updated. Thanks, Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:00:53 AM Vivek Goyal wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > [..] > > > The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot > > > ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) > > > > Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. > > [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] > > It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data > structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. I know. The problem is that the BIOS is generally not stateless and it remebers stuff. In particular, there are a few handshakes done during the ACPI initialization and they cannot be repeated without resetting the BIOS to the initial state, which basically means a reboot. That is kind of orthogonal to the problem at hand, though. > > > This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, > > > no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by > > > default > > > as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. > > > > This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* > > command > > line parameters to address this. > > > > There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general > one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled > in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. > > Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to > make sure no memory is hot added in the system. > > So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have > a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the > fly. Well, if there are other uses, then fine. Thanks! -- I speak only for myself. Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On 01/09/2014 04:44 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:34:16PM -0500, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > Makes sense. Something like "acpi_no_memhotplug" or "acpi_disable_memhotplug" > or something else. > FWIW ... after thinking about it and some of the other debug I've had to do, maybe acpi=no_memhotplug and acpi=no_cpuhotplug are in order here. I've had to disable both during hardware enablement debug and it seems that it "fits" the current acpi disabling scheme. Unless, of course, Rafael still objects. P. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:34:16PM -0500, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > [..] > >> > The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this > >> > boot > >> > ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) > >> > >> Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. > > > > [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] > > > > It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data > > structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. > > > >> > This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, > >> > no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by > >> > default > >> > as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. > >> > >> This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* > >> command > >> line parameters to address this. > >> > > > > There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general > > one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled > > in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. > > > > Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to > > make sure no memory is hot added in the system. > > > > So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have > > a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the > > fly. > > I'm ok this option. But note, even if this option is specified, SH, > Power and S390 still > be able to use memory hotplug because their firmware are totally > different from ACPI. > > Maybe, adding acpi prefix provides good clarification. Makes sense. Something like "acpi_no_memhotplug" or "acpi_disable_memhotplug" or something else. Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > [..] >> > The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot >> > ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) >> >> Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. > > [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] > > It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data > structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. > >> > This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, >> > no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by >> > default >> > as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. >> >> This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* >> command >> line parameters to address this. >> > > There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general > one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled > in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. > > Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to > make sure no memory is hot added in the system. > > So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have > a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the > fly. I'm ok this option. But note, even if this option is specified, SH, Power and S390 still be able to use memory hotplug because their firmware are totally different from ACPI. Maybe, adding acpi prefix provides good clarification. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] > > The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot > > ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) > > Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. > > This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, > > no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by > > default > > as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. > > This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* command > line parameters to address this. > There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to make sure no memory is hot added in the system. So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the fly. Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by default as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* command line parameters to address this. There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to make sure no memory is hot added in the system. So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the fly. Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal vgo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by default as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* command line parameters to address this. There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to make sure no memory is hot added in the system. So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the fly. I'm ok this option. But note, even if this option is specified, SH, Power and S390 still be able to use memory hotplug because their firmware are totally different from ACPI. Maybe, adding acpi prefix provides good clarification. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:34:16PM -0500, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal vgo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by default as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* command line parameters to address this. There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to make sure no memory is hot added in the system. So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the fly. I'm ok this option. But note, even if this option is specified, SH, Power and S390 still be able to use memory hotplug because their firmware are totally different from ACPI. Maybe, adding acpi prefix provides good clarification. Makes sense. Something like acpi_no_memhotplug or acpi_disable_memhotplug or something else. Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On 01/09/2014 04:44 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:34:16PM -0500, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal vgo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Makes sense. Something like acpi_no_memhotplug or acpi_disable_memhotplug or something else. FWIW ... after thinking about it and some of the other debug I've had to do, maybe acpi=no_memhotplug and acpi=no_cpuhotplug are in order here. I've had to disable both during hardware enablement debug and it seems that it fits the current acpi disabling scheme. Unless, of course, Rafael still objects. P. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:00:53 AM Vivek Goyal wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. I know. The problem is that the BIOS is generally not stateless and it remebers stuff. In particular, there are a few handshakes done during the ACPI initialization and they cannot be repeated without resetting the BIOS to the initial state, which basically means a reboot. That is kind of orthogonal to the problem at hand, though. This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by default as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* command line parameters to address this. There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to make sure no memory is hot added in the system. So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the fly. Well, if there are other uses, then fine. Thanks! -- I speak only for myself. Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
On Thursday, January 09, 2014 04:44:25 PM Vivek Goyal wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:34:16PM -0500, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal vgo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by default as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* command line parameters to address this. There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to make sure no memory is hot added in the system. So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the fly. I'm ok this option. But note, even if this option is specified, SH, Power and S390 still be able to use memory hotplug because their firmware are totally different from ACPI. Maybe, adding acpi prefix provides good clarification. Makes sense. Something like acpi_no_memhotplug or acpi_disable_memhotplug or something else. acpi_no_memhotplug would make more sense. That said if you make memmap=exactmap disable the memhotplug driver, the existing kexec/kdump users won't need to be updated. Thanks, Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] acpi memory hotplug, add parameter to disable memory hotplug for kexec
(2014/01/10 6:44), Vivek Goyal wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:34:16PM -0500, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Vivek Goyal vgo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:00:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [..] The system then panics and the kdump/kexec kernel boots. During this boot ACPi is initialized and the kernel (as can be seen above) Which is a bug. You're not supposed to initialize ACPI twice in a row. [CC lkml, kexec mailing list, dave young] It is a fresh instance of kernel booting and it is initializing its data structures fresh. It is *not* re-initializing ACPI in same kernel. This patchset resolves the problem by adding a kernel parameter, no_memory_hotplug, to disable ACPI memory hotplug. It can be added by default as a parameter to the kexec/kdump kernel so the kernel boots correctly. This problem is specific to kexec/kdump, so please don't add *generic* command line parameters to address this. There are other command line options to solve kdump problems. In general one might want to disable memory hogplug on the fly even if it is compiled in the kernel. So it can act as a good debugging aid. Secondly, it can be specified with memmap=exactmap and mem=X paramters to make sure no memory is hot added in the system. So I can see other usages of this parameter. To me it makes sense to have a separate command line option to disable memory hotplug feature on the fly. I'm ok this option. But note, even if this option is specified, SH, Power and S390 still be able to use memory hotplug because their firmware are totally different from ACPI. Maybe, adding acpi prefix provides good clarification. Makes sense. Something like acpi_no_memhotplug or acpi_disable_memhotplug or something else. I like Prarit's patch and the boot option name. If it is updated, I'll test it. Thanks, Yasuaki Ishimatsu Thanks Vivek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-acpi in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
