Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()

2008-02-23 Thread WANG Cong
From: Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:16:29 -0800
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:37:31 -0500 Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:27:10PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > > > Use get_personality() can hide the task_struct internals a bit.
> > > 
> > > ->personality is going to become something less trivial?
> > > Sorry, but you sound like C++ people writing tons of pointless get/set
> > > wrappers. And your get_personality() is worse -- C++ would write it as
> > > 
> > >   current->personality()
> > > 
> > > and again, even here, it's immediately visible that current task is
> > > involved, not some other task.
> > 
> > Yes, completely agreement.  While I might have introduced this gem
> > back then it is entirely stupid if you think about it.  Please send
> > patches to kill get_personality and just use current->personality
> > instead.
> > 
> 
> yup.
> 
> We'll generally only add wrappers of this form if we need to provide
> alternative implementations, or if we expect that we shall do so in the
> future.
> 

Ok. I will send a patch to remove it.
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Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()

2008-02-23 Thread Andrew Morton
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:37:31 -0500 Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:27:10PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > > Use get_personality() can hide the task_struct internals a bit.
> > 
> > ->personality is going to become something less trivial?
> > Sorry, but you sound like C++ people writing tons of pointless get/set
> > wrappers. And your get_personality() is worse -- C++ would write it as
> > 
> > current->personality()
> > 
> > and again, even here, it's immediately visible that current task is
> > involved, not some other task.
> 
> Yes, completely agreement.  While I might have introduced this gem
> back then it is entirely stupid if you think about it.  Please send
> patches to kill get_personality and just use current->personality
> instead.
> 

yup.

We'll generally only add wrappers of this form if we need to provide
alternative implementations, or if we expect that we shall do so in the
future.

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Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()

2008-02-23 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:27:10PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > Use get_personality() can hide the task_struct internals a bit.
> 
> ->personality is going to become something less trivial?
> Sorry, but you sound like C++ people writing tons of pointless get/set
> wrappers. And your get_personality() is worse -- C++ would write it as
> 
>   current->personality()
> 
> and again, even here, it's immediately visible that current task is
> involved, not some other task.

Yes, completely agreement.  While I might have introduced this gem
back then it is entirely stupid if you think about it.  Please send
patches to kill get_personality and just use current->personality
instead.

Thanks.
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Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()

2008-02-23 Thread WANG Cong
From: Alexey Dobriyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:27:10 +0300
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 04:59:44PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote:
> > From: Alexey Dobriyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()
> 
> > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 04:14:03PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote:
> > > > This patchset makes the macro get_personality function alike
> > > > and teaches code to use get_personality() instead of explicit
> > > > reference.
> > > > 
> > > > [I am sorry if you've received multiple copied of this, since
> > > >  my git-send-email doesn't work well. ]
> > > 
> > > Yes, but why? "current->personality" is way more understandable than
> > > your macro because task subject to dereference is very visible.
> > 
> > Use get_personality() can hide the task_struct internals a bit.
> 
> ->personality is going to become something less trivial?
> Sorry, but you sound like C++ people writing tons of pointless get/set
> wrappers. And your get_personality() is worse -- C++ would write it as
> 
>   current->personality()
> 
> and again, even here, it's immediately visible that current task is
> involved, not some other task.
> 

Can't get_personality() mean getting the personality of current task?

Or you want a more generic macro like this?

#define get_task_personality(tsk) ((tsk)->personality)

No, that is _too_ generic. Look at the code, (nearly) all references to
'personality' are via 'current'. So get_personality() is enough.

I am not a fan of C++, I know that sometimes the get/set method in C++
is really a bit pointless, but, of course, *not* all the times.

Regards.
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Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()

2008-02-23 Thread Alexey Dobriyan
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 04:59:44PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote:
> From: Alexey Dobriyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()

> > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 04:14:03PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote:
> > > This patchset makes the macro get_personality function alike
> > > and teaches code to use get_personality() instead of explicit
> > > reference.
> > > 
> > > [I am sorry if you've received multiple copied of this, since
> > >  my git-send-email doesn't work well. ]
> > 
> > Yes, but why? "current->personality" is way more understandable than
> > your macro because task subject to dereference is very visible.
> 
> Use get_personality() can hide the task_struct internals a bit.

->personality is going to become something less trivial?
Sorry, but you sound like C++ people writing tons of pointless get/set
wrappers. And your get_personality() is worse -- C++ would write it as

current->personality()

and again, even here, it's immediately visible that current task is
involved, not some other task.

> And I don't think using the macro to access it is less understandable.
> Since 'current' won't be NULL, whether the dereference is visible is
> not important.

It's not about NULL vs non-NULL at all.
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Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()

2008-02-23 Thread WANG Cong
From: Alexey Dobriyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:51:01 +0300
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 04:14:03PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote:
> > This patchset makes the macro get_personality function alike
> > and teaches code to use get_personality() instead of explicit
> > reference.
> > 
> > [I am sorry if you've received multiple copied of this, since
> >  my git-send-email doesn't work well. ]
> 
> Yes, but why? "current->personality" is way more understandable than
> your macro because task subject to dereference is very visible.

Use get_personality() can hide the task_struct internals a bit.

And I don't think using the macro to access it is less understandable.
Since 'current' won't be NULL, whether the dereference is visible is
not important.

Regards.
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Re: [PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()

2008-02-23 Thread Alexey Dobriyan
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 04:14:03PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote:
> This patchset makes the macro get_personality function alike
> and teaches code to use get_personality() instead of explicit
> reference.
> 
> [I am sorry if you've received multiple copied of this, since
>  my git-send-email doesn't work well. ]

Yes, but why? "current->personality" is way more understandable than
your macro because task subject to dereference is very visible.
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[PATCH 00/16] (Resend) Use get_personality()

2008-02-23 Thread WANG Cong
This patchset makes the macro get_personality function alike
and teaches code to use get_personality() instead of explicit
reference.

[I am sorry if you've received multiple copied of this, since
 my git-send-email doesn't work well. ]

Signed-off-by: WANG Cong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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