Re: [PATCH v7 3/3] arm64: implement KPROBES_ON_FTRACE

2020-07-24 Thread Masami Hiramatsu
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:06:11 +0800
Jisheng Zhang  wrote:

> 
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 22:24:55 +0900 Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Jisheng,
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > 
> > Would you be still working on this series?
> 
> I will rebase the implementation on the latest code, then try to address
> your comments and Mark's comments. I will send out patches in this weekend.
> 
> > 
> > If you are still want to put a probe on func+4, it is OK if you can
> > completely emulate the 1st instruction. (lr save on the stack and
> > change the regs->sp)
> 
> Will check which is the better solution.

Thanks Jisheng!

What I'm considering is the consistency of pre_handler()@addr and 
post_handler()@addr+4. Also, whether the value of regs (and stacks) is
same as the user expected.

Thank you,

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Masami Hiramatsu 


Re: [PATCH v7 3/3] arm64: implement KPROBES_ON_FTRACE

2020-07-24 Thread Jisheng Zhang


On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 22:24:55 +0900 Masami Hiramatsu wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Jisheng,

Hi,

> 
> Would you be still working on this series?

I will rebase the implementation on the latest code, then try to address
your comments and Mark's comments. I will send out patches in this weekend.

> 
> If you are still want to put a probe on func+4, it is OK if you can
> completely emulate the 1st instruction. (lr save on the stack and
> change the regs->sp)

Will check which is the better solution.

Thank you very much



Re: [PATCH v7 3/3] arm64: implement KPROBES_ON_FTRACE

2020-07-21 Thread Masami Hiramatsu
Hi Jisheng,

Would you be still working on this series?

If you are still want to put a probe on func+4, it is OK if you can
completely emulate the 1st instruction. (lr save on the stack and
change the regs->sp)

Thank you,

On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:26:07 +0900
Masami Hiramatsu  wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 04:25:24 +
> Jisheng Zhang  wrote:
> 
> > > > > +/*
> > > > > + * In arm64 FTRACE_WITH_REGS implementation, we patch two nop 
> > > > > instructions:
> > > > > + * the lr saver and bl ftrace-entry. Both these instructions are 
> > > > > claimed
> > > > > + * by ftrace and we should allow probing on either instruction.  
> > > >
> > > > No, the 2nd bl ftrace-entry must not be probed.
> > > > The pair of lr-saver and bl ftrace-entry is tightly coupled. You can not
> > > > decouple it.  
> > > 
> > > This is the key. different viewing of this results in different 
> > > implementation.
> > > I'm just wondering why are the two instructions considered as coupled. I 
> > > think
> > > here we met similar situation as powerpc: 
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/6/18/646
> > > the "mflr r0" equals to lr-saver here, branch to _mcount equals to bl 
> > > ftrace-entry
> > > could you please kindly comment more?
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > 
> > 
> > hmm, I think I may get some part of your opinion. In v7 implementation:
> > 
> > if probe on func+4, that's bl ftrace-entry, similar as mcount call on
> > other architectures, we allow this probe as normal.
> > 
> > if probe on func+0, the first param ip in kprobe_ftrace_handler() points
> > to func+4(this is adjusted by ftrace), regs->ip points to func+8, so in
> > kprobe_ftrace_handler() we modify regs->ip to func+0 to call kprobe
> > pre handler, then modify regs->ip to func+8 to call kprobe post handler.
> > As can be seen, the first two instructions are considered as a virtual
> > mcount call. From this point of view, lr saver and the bl 
> > is coupled.
> 
> Yes, this is good. But probing on func+4 is meaningless. Both func+0 and
> func+4 call a handler with same pt_regs. And it should have the stack
> pointer which is NOT modified by lr-saver and regs->lr must point original
> call address. (ftrace regs caller must do this fixup for supporting live
> patching correctly)
> 
> And in this case, func+4 has fake pt_regs because it skips lr-saver's
> effects.
> 
> And even if you fixed up the pt_regs, there is another problem of what
> user expects on the target instructions.
> 
> As you know, dynamic ftrace will fill the instruction with NOP (2 NOPs
> in arm64), in this case, maybe pt_regs are same except pc on func+0 and
> func+4. But if ftrace already enabled on the function, user will see
> there are lr-saver and bl, oops. In this case we have to change pt_regs
> between func+0 and func+4. So it depends on the current mode.
> 
> However, IMHO, it is not worth to pay such simulation cost. No one want
> to probe such simulated intermediate address. It is easy to expect the
> result from the code. Moreover, the func+4 will not appear on debuginfo
> because those 2 special insturctions are just appended by the compiler,
> not generated by the code.
> 
> So I don't think we need to support func+4. We only need func+0, or func+8
> (this must be same as func+0 except regs->pc anyway)
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> > 
> > If we split patch3 into two:
> > one to support kprobes func+4
> > the second to support kprobe on func+0
> > it would be much clearer.
> > 
> > Then the key here is whether we could allow both kprobes on func+0 and 
> > func+4
> > 
> > Thanks
> 
> 
> -- 
> Masami Hiramatsu 


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