Re: [RFC 3/4] Documentation: Add cutoff periods for patch acceptance

2014-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 6:59 AM, One Thousand Gnomes
 wrote:
>> +
>> +  kernel.org "mainline:"  |  Patch may appear
>> +  field when posted   |  in released kernel
>> +  +
>> +  3.18-rc[1-4]|  3.19
>> +  3.18-rc[5-9]|  3.20
>> +  3.18|  Merge window open - don't post
>> +  3.19-rc[1-4]|  3.20
>> +  3.19-rc[5-9]|  3.21
>> +  3.19|  Merge window open - don't post
>> +
>> +Bug fixes can typically be accepted at any time.
>
> That's exactly what was needed I think

So I don't think this is wrong per se, but I do think that it should
also have a clarification that

 (a) the above "may appear" is basically "best possible timings", and
things can get delayed by various issues

 (b) the exact timing is maintainer-specific.

For that (b) in particular, for fairly simple subsystems in
particular, some maintainers basically have their pull requests for
the merge window open *before* the merge window even starts, and for
them, the merge window itself isn't actually all that busy, it's often
the week before that is the busy one.  So the exact timing can vary by
maintainership, and while I think the above is a reasonable example,
it should perhaps be documented as such. An *example*, not a "this is
how it always works". If you are preparing a 50-patch monster, I
suspect you may want to talk to the maintainer you're planning on
spamming before you send it out.

 Linus
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Re: [RFC 3/4] Documentation: Add cutoff periods for patch acceptance

2014-12-15 Thread One Thousand Gnomes
> +
> +  kernel.org "mainline:"  |  Patch may appear
> +  field when posted   |  in released kernel
> +  +
> +  3.18-rc[1-4]|  3.19
> +  3.18-rc[5-9]|  3.20
> +  3.18|  Merge window open - don't post
> +  3.19-rc[1-4]|  3.20
> +  3.19-rc[5-9]|  3.21
> +  3.19|  Merge window open - don't post
> +
> +Bug fixes can typically be accepted at any time.

That's exactly what was needed I think

Acked-by: Alan Cox 

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Re: [RFC 3/4] Documentation: Add cutoff periods for patch acceptance

2014-12-15 Thread Borislav Petkov
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 10:09:49PM -0800, Kevin Cernekee wrote:
> This has been a recurring source of confusion for the new submitters who
> I've helped; let's see if adding a small illustration improves the
> situation.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Kevin Cernekee 
> ---
>  Documentation/development-process/5.Posting | 16 
>  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting 
> b/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
> index 14f8b01..50cf4dc 100644
> --- a/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
> +++ b/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
> @@ -35,6 +35,22 @@ merge window has closed.  You can visit 
> https://www.kernel.org/ to check
>  the merge window status; it is closed if the "mainline:" entry shows a
>  version number containing "-rc", and open if a non-rc version number appears.
>  
> +In many cases, feature additions received and accepted somewhere in the range
> +of [N-rc1, N-rc5) will be merged into the -next tree targeting the (N+1) 
> Linux
> +release.  For example:
> +
> +  kernel.org "mainline:"  |  Patch may appear
> +  field when posted   |  in released kernel
> +  +
> +  3.18-rc[1-4]|  3.19
> +  3.18-rc[5-9]|  3.20
> +  3.18|  Merge window open - don't post
> +  3.19-rc[1-4]|  3.20
> +  3.19-rc[5-9]|  3.21
> +  3.19|  Merge window open - don't post
> +
> +Bug fixes can typically be accepted at any time.

Acked-by: Borislav Petkov 

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Re: [RFC 3/4] Documentation: Add cutoff periods for patch acceptance

2014-12-15 Thread Borislav Petkov
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 10:09:49PM -0800, Kevin Cernekee wrote:
 This has been a recurring source of confusion for the new submitters who
 I've helped; let's see if adding a small illustration improves the
 situation.
 
 Signed-off-by: Kevin Cernekee cerne...@gmail.com
 ---
  Documentation/development-process/5.Posting | 16 
  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
 
 diff --git a/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting 
 b/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
 index 14f8b01..50cf4dc 100644
 --- a/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
 +++ b/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
 @@ -35,6 +35,22 @@ merge window has closed.  You can visit 
 https://www.kernel.org/ to check
  the merge window status; it is closed if the mainline: entry shows a
  version number containing -rc, and open if a non-rc version number appears.
  
 +In many cases, feature additions received and accepted somewhere in the range
 +of [N-rc1, N-rc5) will be merged into the -next tree targeting the (N+1) 
 Linux
 +release.  For example:
 +
 +  kernel.org mainline:  |  Patch may appear
 +  field when posted   |  in released kernel
 +  +
 +  3.18-rc[1-4]|  3.19
 +  3.18-rc[5-9]|  3.20
 +  3.18|  Merge window open - don't post
 +  3.19-rc[1-4]|  3.20
 +  3.19-rc[5-9]|  3.21
 +  3.19|  Merge window open - don't post
 +
 +Bug fixes can typically be accepted at any time.

Acked-by: Borislav Petkov b...@suse.de

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Re: [RFC 3/4] Documentation: Add cutoff periods for patch acceptance

2014-12-15 Thread One Thousand Gnomes
 +
 +  kernel.org mainline:  |  Patch may appear
 +  field when posted   |  in released kernel
 +  +
 +  3.18-rc[1-4]|  3.19
 +  3.18-rc[5-9]|  3.20
 +  3.18|  Merge window open - don't post
 +  3.19-rc[1-4]|  3.20
 +  3.19-rc[5-9]|  3.21
 +  3.19|  Merge window open - don't post
 +
 +Bug fixes can typically be accepted at any time.

That's exactly what was needed I think

Acked-by: Alan Cox a...@linux.intel.com

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Re: [RFC 3/4] Documentation: Add cutoff periods for patch acceptance

2014-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 6:59 AM, One Thousand Gnomes
gno...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
 +
 +  kernel.org mainline:  |  Patch may appear
 +  field when posted   |  in released kernel
 +  +
 +  3.18-rc[1-4]|  3.19
 +  3.18-rc[5-9]|  3.20
 +  3.18|  Merge window open - don't post
 +  3.19-rc[1-4]|  3.20
 +  3.19-rc[5-9]|  3.21
 +  3.19|  Merge window open - don't post
 +
 +Bug fixes can typically be accepted at any time.

 That's exactly what was needed I think

So I don't think this is wrong per se, but I do think that it should
also have a clarification that

 (a) the above may appear is basically best possible timings, and
things can get delayed by various issues

 (b) the exact timing is maintainer-specific.

For that (b) in particular, for fairly simple subsystems in
particular, some maintainers basically have their pull requests for
the merge window open *before* the merge window even starts, and for
them, the merge window itself isn't actually all that busy, it's often
the week before that is the busy one.  So the exact timing can vary by
maintainership, and while I think the above is a reasonable example,
it should perhaps be documented as such. An *example*, not a this is
how it always works. If you are preparing a 50-patch monster, I
suspect you may want to talk to the maintainer you're planning on
spamming before you send it out.

 Linus
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[RFC 3/4] Documentation: Add cutoff periods for patch acceptance

2014-12-14 Thread Kevin Cernekee
This has been a recurring source of confusion for the new submitters who
I've helped; let's see if adding a small illustration improves the
situation.

Signed-off-by: Kevin Cernekee 
---
 Documentation/development-process/5.Posting | 16 
 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting 
b/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
index 14f8b01..50cf4dc 100644
--- a/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
+++ b/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
@@ -35,6 +35,22 @@ merge window has closed.  You can visit 
https://www.kernel.org/ to check
 the merge window status; it is closed if the "mainline:" entry shows a
 version number containing "-rc", and open if a non-rc version number appears.
 
+In many cases, feature additions received and accepted somewhere in the range
+of [N-rc1, N-rc5) will be merged into the -next tree targeting the (N+1) Linux
+release.  For example:
+
+  kernel.org "mainline:"  |  Patch may appear
+  field when posted   |  in released kernel
+  +
+  3.18-rc[1-4]|  3.19
+  3.18-rc[5-9]|  3.20
+  3.18|  Merge window open - don't post
+  3.19-rc[1-4]|  3.20
+  3.19-rc[5-9]|  3.21
+  3.19|  Merge window open - don't post
+
+Bug fixes can typically be accepted at any time.
+
 
 5.2: BEFORE CREATING PATCHES
 
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[RFC 3/4] Documentation: Add cutoff periods for patch acceptance

2014-12-14 Thread Kevin Cernekee
This has been a recurring source of confusion for the new submitters who
I've helped; let's see if adding a small illustration improves the
situation.

Signed-off-by: Kevin Cernekee cerne...@gmail.com
---
 Documentation/development-process/5.Posting | 16 
 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting 
b/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
index 14f8b01..50cf4dc 100644
--- a/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
+++ b/Documentation/development-process/5.Posting
@@ -35,6 +35,22 @@ merge window has closed.  You can visit 
https://www.kernel.org/ to check
 the merge window status; it is closed if the mainline: entry shows a
 version number containing -rc, and open if a non-rc version number appears.
 
+In many cases, feature additions received and accepted somewhere in the range
+of [N-rc1, N-rc5) will be merged into the -next tree targeting the (N+1) Linux
+release.  For example:
+
+  kernel.org mainline:  |  Patch may appear
+  field when posted   |  in released kernel
+  +
+  3.18-rc[1-4]|  3.19
+  3.18-rc[5-9]|  3.20
+  3.18|  Merge window open - don't post
+  3.19-rc[1-4]|  3.20
+  3.19-rc[5-9]|  3.21
+  3.19|  Merge window open - don't post
+
+Bug fixes can typically be accepted at any time.
+
 
 5.2: BEFORE CREATING PATCHES
 
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